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[08:24] <blindcoder> moin
[08:35] <netrunner> moin, 2
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[09:10] <netrunner> jackson records online http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/021505mjgrandjury.html
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[09:42] <blindcoder> another few new pages to rockdoc
[09:51] <fake> hi
[10:29] <blindcoder> moin fake 
[10:29] <blindcoder> gnarf
[10:29] Action: blindcoder kicks mplayer
[10:29] <blindcoder> okay, trying to build from scratch with linux 2.6.10 et al
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[11:43] <fake> jikes
[11:54] <clifford> kasc: are you listening? regarding clanlib ..
[11:59] <th> morning
[11:59] <clifford> moin th
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[12:08] <owl> hi
[12:09] <blindcoder> meh
[12:10] <blindcoder> I'd love to eat something that actually tastes like the thing it looks like here
[12:10] <owl> huh?
[12:11] <blindcoder> siemens kantine :(
[12:13] <owl> ah. sounds like 'gummi-reis & co'?
[12:13] <blindcoder> no, because everything tastes like salt. provided that you add it yourself
[12:13] <fake> what happens if you don't ?
[12:13] <owl> O_o
[12:14] <owl> hmmm... might i should send a package with pepper to blindy on friday? ;p
[12:15] <blindcoder> fake: it tastes like nothing at all
[12:16] <blindcoder> fake: somehow the c(r)ooks here have the ability to remove the last bit of taste from everything they create
[12:18] <owl> blindcoder: .oO( or you simply are a owner of this dum virus which removes the taste of everything )
[12:18] <blindcoder> owl: well, if I cook myself on the weekend stuff tastes as it should
[12:18] <owl> blindcoder: hm. ok
[12:25] <clifford> kasc: not important anymore.. I've just fixed clanlib now. (fyi)
[12:25] <blindcoder> what about just using pkgforking for clanlib?
[12:26] <clifford> I'm afraid the clanlib packages are going to be too different.
[12:26] <clifford> But it's not _that_ important right now: currently no package needs clanlib-0.7 ..
[12:27] <blindcoder> okay
[12:27] <kasc> ah, thx
[12:27] <blindcoder> clifford: got any new data for sonar?
[12:27] <clifford> blindcoder: soon. (1409 builds total, 1201 completed fine, 6 with errors.)
[12:27] <kasc> i'll have a look at the whole clanlib issue as soon as i find some time after my current build
[12:27] <blindcoder> cool :)
[12:28] <clifford> kasc: great! did clanlib build in your current build?
[12:29] <kasc> clifford: just started the build
[12:29] <kasc> but i'm including your patch
[12:29] <clifford> good. ;-)
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[12:36] <blindcoder> clifford: can you give me a short overview over how hwscan works?
[12:37] <blindcoder> clifford: or rather, why it just silently does nothing?
[12:37] <clifford> are you using hwscan (awk script) or hwscan2 (binary)
[12:37] <blindcoder> awk
[12:38] <blindcoder> I wasn't aware of anything with a 2 at the end, where can I find that?
[12:38] <clifford> it is reading the modules maps and comparing the data with the /proc info.
[12:39] <clifford> in fact, hwscan2 is doing the same thing but isn't finished right now (and development is on ice)
[12:39] <blindcoder> I see
[12:39] <clifford> http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/hwscan/trunk/
[12:39] <blindcoder> here, hwscan just drops out with returncode 1 and nothing else
[12:40] <blindcoder> guess I've missed some files somewhere
[12:41] <clifford> blindcoder: 'strace' is your friend..
[12:41] <th> strace is cheating on me?
[12:41] <blindcoder> clifford: yes, I just now put it onto the lvp system and ran it
[12:41] <blindcoder> *ARGH*
[12:42] <blindcoder> /usr/share/pci.ids ENOENT
[12:42] <blindcoder> guess that's it :(
[12:42] <clifford> that's part of the 'pciutils' package
[12:43] <blindcoder> yes, pciutils is built, but I don't copy the pci.ids file to the livesystem
[12:43] <fake> update-pciids
[12:43] <clifford> it is in the base/system category, the base repository and has the CORE flag set..
[12:44] <fake> clifford: you've got mail
[12:45] <blindcoder> clifford: yeah, but I still didn't copy that file into the LVP livesystem
[12:45] <blindcoder> guess in nethack that would justify a You("feel stupid.");
[12:50] <daja77> hi clifford 
[12:51] <kasc> uh well... the new glibc doesnt seem to like me
[12:51] <clifford> fake: d0n'+ 5p34|< |33+ +0 m3 !1! my 3v1| p3r| 5|<1||z 3v3n 5upp0r+ m3 1n +|-|1z 4r34..
[12:52] <blindcoder> d00 w3 r3411Y H4V3 70 D00 7h|5?
[12:52] <clifford> 5ur3 1 |-|4v3 +0.
[12:53] Nick change: netrunner -> n3
[12:53] Nick change: n3 -> netrunner
[12:53] <blindcoder> Y34H | kn0w F4K3 574R73D |7 50 W3 (4n 47 13457 814M3 h|M
[12:53] <netrunner> ts, didn't work :(   /nick n3+R|_|/\//\/3r
[12:54] <clifford> blindcoder: 1 d1n'+ g3+ da p4r+ 1n (..)   ;-)
[12:54] <clifford> ahh!  "can".   *g*
[12:54] <blindcoder> :)
[12:54] <fake> oh my god... what have i done... ?
[12:55] <clifford> #!/usr/bin/perl -F(?#_leetmaker_v1.1_-_by_clifford_wolf_)
[12:55] <clifford> $_="Leetmaker v1.1\n";do{y/A-Z/a-z/;s/the/dA/g;s/s\b/z/g;
[12:55] <clifford> y/elitosaA/3|1+054a/;s/k/|</g;s/h/|-|/g;s/(^|[^f])f(?!(?#
[12:55] <clifford> $)f)/$1ph/g;s/\s*!(!+)/ !1$1/g;s/0u/oo/g;print}while(<>);
[12:55] <blindcoder> nothing that can't be rectified... or be made worse, if the situation arrives
[12:55] Action: blindcoder shakes head in disbelief
[12:55] <blindcoder> now if that script could also do colors...
[12:56] Action: clifford ph34rz da d4y +|-|1z 1z c0nv3r+3d 1n+0 4n 1r551 p|ug1n.
[12:56] <blindcoder> ehm...
[12:56] <blindcoder> 1|k3 7h|5 0n3 |'M U5|n6?
[12:56] <blindcoder> it already happened some time ago
[12:56] <daja77> clifford: because fake told me that he is moving, I hope you'll be still here?
[12:57] <clifford> daja77: to CLT? sure. I need to do a talk there..
[12:57] Action: blindcoder puts on his told-you-so-face and looks at daja77 
[12:58] <daja77> yes indeed
[12:58] Action: daja77 showing his tongue to blindcoder 
[12:59] Action: blindcoder nails daja77s tongue to the table
[12:59] <daja77> dream on
[13:02] <daja77> this is interesting
[13:02] <daja77> make[1]: Leaving directory `/ROCK/src.lgeneral.1109022878.16178.1256308601/lgeneral-1.2beta-2'
[13:02] <daja77> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: 21365 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) $bindir/lgc-pg -s pg-data -d $datadir/
[13:02] <daja77> lgeneral
[13:02] <blindcoder> clifford: found the problem
[13:02] <blindcoder> clifford: no getline installed --> couldn't guess kernel version --> * didn't work either
[13:02] <daja77> checking if this is a heisenbug
[13:03] <blindcoder> clifford: using -k 2.6.10-rock works
[13:05] <clifford> daja77: no, it's not. I also saw it in my last builds..
[13:05] <daja77> yep occured again
[13:06] <daja77> kasc: btw none of your games apart from pingus failed due clanlib update
[13:06] <daja77> guess a forked clanmlib package will be the best
[13:06] <daja77> will try that after breakfast
[13:17] <kasc> daja77: if i find the devel version of pingus to be playable, we could just upgrade and upgrade pingus as well
[13:18] <clifford> that would be great.
[13:18] <daja77> kasc: yes i'd prefer that
[13:18] <daja77> clifford: btw wormux won't build wth the old clanlib ;)
[13:20] <clifford> so let's hope that kasc has success with pingus and clanlib 0.7 - that would solve many problems..
[13:20] <daja77> indeed
[13:20] <daja77> games on linux are condidered evil ;)
[13:22] <daja77> anyway bbl
[13:39] <kasc> umm what about a games repos anyways?
[13:40] <blindcoder> we have the extra/games category
[13:52] <blindcoder> this mplayer is driving me nuts
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[14:37] <fake> kasc: does kdegames belong to kde or to games then... ?
[14:37] <fake> kasc: we had that discussion soooo often ;-)
[14:37] <daja77> hm bsdgames to bsd repo 
[14:37] Action: daja77 hides
[14:37] <mnemoc> repository games, category both :)
[14:37] <mnemoc> categories, another taboo :p
[14:39] <netrunner> fake: hey, you managed to build minisip! *hug*
[14:40] <blindcoder> can anyone explain to me why munmap SIGABRTs on a previously mmap'ed region?
[14:40] Action: daja77 hopes digikam build s this time
[14:41] <fake> netrunner: too easy.
[14:41] <blindcoder> oh, it doesn't
[14:41] <fake> 0.7 was just a 3 line patch or so ;)
[14:43] <netrunner> ah, they released. I had problems with 0.6
[14:43] <daja77> blindcoder: this package is strange, it builds fine without its deps, only installing the documentation >_<
[14:43] <blindcoder> daja77: which?
[14:44] <daja77> digikam
[14:44] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:44] <blindcoder> currently having a fight with mplayer, sorry :(
[14:45] <daja77> read about that
[14:45] <daja77> ^^
[14:45] <blindcoder> when calling: rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8); it dies with SIGABRT
[14:45] <daja77> it is better everybody has his own fight
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[14:47] <netrunner> daja77: will they make a big social event again?
[14:48] <daja77> yes sort of
[14:51] <netrunner> :)
[14:56] <netrunner> hey guys, I dreamed of a graphical installer last night ... do we want to use a x server or better the framebuffer for that?
[14:57] <daja77> fb
[14:58] <clifford> framebuffer
[14:59] <daja77> lol i tested digikam and copied the wormux desktop file as template in the repo, so the digikam command just ran both programs 
[15:00] <netrunner> is framebuffer also available on other archs?
[15:06] <blindcoder> X using the framebuffer
[15:06] <blindcoder> then we could also do the FC thing and use vnc for installation
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[15:10] <blindcoder> besides, a whole XFree86 fits into 15MB
[15:12] <fake> netrunner: on most other arch, only framebuffer is availible
[15:13] <fake> text-mode is a no-no
[15:14] <netrunner> fake: ah :) so how do you install rocklinux nowaddays?
[15:14] <netrunner> blindcoder: FC?
[15:15] <netrunner> blindcoder: Fedora Core?
[15:15] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes
[15:15] <fake> netrunner: framebuffer console, of course
[15:16] <fake> netrunner: the concept of a framebuffer has nothing to do with what is getting displayed ;)
[15:16] Action: netrunner just created a package for http://qingy.sourceforge.net/
[15:17] <daja77> nice
[15:18] <netrunner> gottaget home to try :)
[15:36] <netrunner> 2.6.10 supports CONFIG_LOCALVERSION, what about using that instead patching -rock into the Makefile?
[15:46] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[15:46] <blindcoder> if I chroot into the system and run mplayer with DISPLAY= it works
[15:46] <blindcoder> but not if I boot that system
[15:50] <fake> boot into the system and try the DISPLAY= thing
[15:50] <fake> circumventing the unix sockets
[15:50] <fake> maybe that's the problem
[15:50] <blindcoder> fake: the fun thing is: my lvp program works, but mplayer doesn't
[15:50] <blindcoder> just a moment, I'll try
[15:50] <netrunner> blindcoder: haven't you already once compiled a kernel without unix sockets? :)
[15:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: this one has :P
[15:51] <fake> *pah* who needs unix sockets ;)
[15:51] Action: fake smoking
[15:53] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:53] <blindcoder> pah, no networking in kernel, only unix sockets
[15:53] <blindcoder> which worked with 2.4 kernels
[15:53] <daja77> O_o
[15:56] <blindcoder> daja77: lvp
[15:56] <blindcoder> I currently have shmem as a probable culprit
[16:02] <netrunner> oh, nice, some foreigner in my wlan
[16:03] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:06] <netrunner> weird name name-2c2fm9ircv
[16:08] Action: netrunner emerging dsniff ;)
[16:13] <netrunner> this guy seems to be heavily emuling or so.
[16:13] <blindcoder> zee bandwis is mein!
[16:13] Action: netrunner massaging his iptables rules
[16:13] <fake> netrunner: sounds like a windows xp auto-named device
[16:14] <daja77> == 02/22/05 16:14:42 =[9]=> Finished building package openttd.
[16:14] <daja77> ^^
[16:14] <netrunner> wonder why he could access the internet anyway. must be a typo in my rules.
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[16:16] <blindcoder> clifford: btw, where is this dyndns.sh that you reference in the ROCKNet README?
[16:17] <clifford> blindcoder: this is just an example. you need to write it..
[16:18] <blindcoder> clifford: *sigh* thought so. *adding to TODO*
[16:20] <netrunner> hm, intruder seems to have left. maybe he is rebooting or panicking because his connection attempts were stopped
[16:21] <blindcoder> netrunner: you could first have tried to throw the usual nasties at him :)
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[16:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: he had this xp firewall activated, dont have time to google for exploits at work :)
[16:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: too bad :)
[16:22] Action: fake wants PoWE
[16:22] <netrunner> Power over Wireles Encryption ?
[16:22] <blindcoder> Point of Windows Execution?
[16:23] <fake> Power over Wireless Ethernet
[16:23] <netrunner> Point of Weed Eternity
[16:23] <fake> that way you could a) use wifi sip phones without charging
[16:23] Action: blindcoder hands fake some wireless lan cables that support PoWE
[16:23] <fake> b) run totally-self-contained repeaters
[16:23] <fake> c) shock people ;)
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[16:24] <netrunner> fake: should be easy with a) solar cells b) auto aiming c) high energy lasers
[16:25] <netrunner> fake: just stop turning around while phoning or you'll get a new haircut :)
[16:26] <fake> or an air-conditioned brain
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[16:42] <netrunner> what would I use for ipsec with rock?
[16:42] <netrunner> I see no openswan ...
[16:43] <mnemoc> openvpn?
[16:44] <th> thats not ipsec
[16:44] <mnemoc> .oO( i should send patch for 2.0_rc16 )o
[16:44] <mnemoc> i know :)
[16:44] <fake> netrunner: create an openswan package
[16:44] <th> though - i do prefer openvpn for vpn issues.
[16:44] <netrunner> I really don't care. I only want to rework my home net. and wxp should be able toaccess it, too.
[16:45] <netrunner> and I think wxp can do ipsec, no?
[16:45] <mnemoc> netrunner: openvpn has win32 clients
[16:45] <netrunner> mnemoc: ok, fine :)
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[16:48] <netrunner> mnemoc: I'll test-build and submit openvpn update if you don't mind
[16:48] <mnemoc> netrunner: sure, go for it. the update is clean and safe
[16:49] <mnemoc> i'm on a lack of disk space so i have been unable to keep a submaster tree to send patches
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[17:30] <kasc> the pingus devel version doesnt even have complete sources... looks like clanlib update has to wait
[17:30] <fake> hm
[17:31] <fake> minisip is quite good...
[17:31] <daja77> no way, then i'll build two packages
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[18:39] <feistel> have Linux support for D865GLC SATA controller?
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[19:51] <tfing> sorry for the mess earlier, this should be stable now
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[21:24] <netrunner> more or less :)
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[21:40] Action: netrunner trying minisip
[21:42] <netrunner> fake: how would I reach you over voip? (for testing=
[21:42] <netrunner> )
[21:46] <owl> .oO( you all have too much social skills )
[21:48] <netrunner> owl: why?
[21:48] <netrunner> owl: you wanna phone?
[21:50] <owl> netrunner: nah. god, no!!! *shivers* but phoning is evil -> contact with people ... 
[21:55] <blindcoder> IRC is like phoning with a deaf-phone
[21:57] <owl> blindcoder: nah. it's more - abstract. and you can choose not to answer and so
[22:03] <netrunner> owl: never had voip6? :)
[22:05] <owl> netrunner: nah. and - believe me - i don't want it. ;) 
[22:06] <owl> (heh, the calls i had during the last - 2 years - or so where almost all with t-com members ... but nothing else... -> no need for voip)
[22:07] <netrunner> hey, that sounds rather sad, I think I am going to call you one day and tell you some jokes :)
[22:07] <owl> netrunner: lol. nope. not really sad about it. just my social skills are - aehm - beeeeeeeep
[22:11] <netrunner> owl: life is a neverending school session :)
[22:12] <owl> netrunner: yes... but will increase social skills only if needed. and not needed atm :p
[22:12] <netrunner> what's wrong with rl.net btw?
[22:33] <th> apache process going nuts
[22:34] <th> it's coming down...
[22:34] <th> coming up again...
[22:35] <th> outch.
[22:35] <th> whats going on here?
[22:35] <th> clifford: ping?
[22:38] <th> rl.org docroot is not in place
[22:38] <th> fsck.
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[22:53] <th> fake: ping
[23:01] <th> md2 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2[0](F) ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part2[1]
[23:01] <th>       7815552 blocks [2/1] [_U]
[23:01] <th> raid disk failing on rl.net
[23:11] <th> ok. i recreated a new "rocklinux.org" directory from typo3 backend.
[23:11] <th> everything should be back up.
[23:11] <th> but not the failing raid disk :-/
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