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[08:28] <blindcoder> moin
[08:28] <netrunner> moin, 2
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[11:18] <daja77> this is strange Create-Errlist shows me an error for 5-pciutils for bootdisk target, but I have a .log for that package and it reads fine
[11:23] <blindcoder> is there a .err, too?
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[11:41] <daja77> no
[11:43] <daja77> ah ok found it the log was in another target ...
[11:43] <daja77> cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/linux/drivers/pci/pci.ids': No such file or directory
[11:43] <daja77> that doesn't happen in generic
[11:44] <netrunner> hm. /me thinking, I had that once ...
[11:44] <netrunner> something about no kernel sources perhaps?
[11:45] <daja77> i have a linux26-src log
[11:47] <netrunner> dated before or after the pciutils?
[11:47] <daja77> before
[11:48] <daja77> perhaps there is no linux symlink?
[11:49] <netrunner> isn't vpn over tcp the same problem as with tcp over tcp?
[11:49] <netrunner> daja77: well, don't ask me :)
[11:50] <daja77> yep the symlink is missing
[11:50] <netrunner> daja77: no default kernel?
[11:51] <daja77> no option for a default kernel
[11:52] <daja77> perhaps it is not active if only 2.6 is selected
[11:53] <daja77> aaaah damn found it
[11:54] <daja77> the headers do not match the kernel, and the symlink is only set when the headers matching the kernel
[12:13] <fake> th: pong
[12:13] <th> oh
[12:13] <th> huge latency
[12:14] <th> fake: i wanted to inform you that phoenix is dying.
[12:14] <fake> th: the raid disc is failing again and again...
[12:14] <th> fake: ack. and the rocklinux.org directory disappeard. i recreated it from typo3
[12:14] <th> fake: and recovered svn
[12:15] <blindcoder> daja77: pci.ids is in package pciutils and at /usr/share/pci.ids
[12:15] <fake> th: jikes
[12:15] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, but it takes it from the kernel.
[12:15] <daja77> blindcoder: hm pciutils package should know abit that, no?
[12:15] <th> netrunner: yea - that's different in 2.4
[12:16] <blindcoder> daja77: with lvp I at least take it from there
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[12:38] <netrunner> th uses an alternative mixture of tofu and normal quotation ;)
[12:42] <netrunner> asterisk-alternative (sip only) http://www.sipfoundry.org/sipX/index.html
[12:59] <fake> netrunner: forget that, you want SER, my friend
[13:00] <fake> netrunner: besides, who needs an asterisk alternative? asterisk is great
[13:04] <blindcoder> *ARGL*
[13:04] <blindcoder> all this trouble just because the fucking mplayer is buggy
[13:21] <netrunner> fake: yes, asterisk is fine. what is ser?
[13:23] <fake> netrunner: SIP Express Router from iptel.org
[13:32] <daja77> *yes*
[13:32] <daja77>                 Disk 4:  368564 kB in  1234 files
[13:32] <blindcoder> hm?
[13:33] <daja77> generic needs 4 discs
[13:34] <blindcoder> still fits on one DVD :D
[13:34] Action: daja77 kicking blindcoder 
[13:34] <blindcoder> ouch
[14:21] <netrunner> daja77: but must bee some time, because it is already 2/3 full ...
[14:58] <netrunner> hm. 
[14:58] <blindcoder> hmhm
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[15:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: I think I'll update the epia target or  try to merge it into the packages
[15:08] <blindcoder> netrunner: that would be nice :-)
[15:08] <blindcoder> netrunner: probably as architecture? *looks at netrunner with big round puppy eyes*
[15:13] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, better derived from scripts/Build-Target: scripts/Build-Epia.
[15:14] <blindcoder> netrunner: whatever you see fit, I know nothing about epia
[15:14] <netrunner> blindcoder: I created it as a target because it contained rather invading patches. but it seems the kernel stuff is merged into 2.6 at least.
[15:18] <blindcoder> nice
[15:20] <blindcoder> fake: what happened with your MUA? you're not sending In-Reply-To anymore :(
[15:23] <fake> blindcoder: i screwed that up
[15:23] <fake> blindcoder: i sent from the wrong account at first, canceled it and then edited the message and forwareded it inline. urks.
[15:24] <blindcoder> fake: ah okay, have already been worried :)
[15:24] <blindcoder> fake: inserted the header manually here now
[15:38] <netrunner> why don't we all join together and form a linux company?
[15:38] <blindcoder> o_O
[15:38] Action: netrunner looking at his todo list
[15:38] <blindcoder> I have a really nice employer, thanks
[15:38] <fake> netrunner: why aren't you getting a gender change?
[15:39] <fake> the 'why not' questions are always easy.
[15:39] <netrunner> fake: ah, thought you feel attracted ;)
[15:40] <netrunner> the atmosphere here is getting worse. everybody feels under pressure. at least I was asked to install ROCKLinux once more.
[15:40] <blindcoder> where is "here"?
[15:40] <netrunner> bsh
[15:41] <blindcoder> bourne shell?
[15:42] <fake> busty sex house ?
[15:42] <blindcoder> heh
[15:43] <netrunner> www.bsh-group.com
[15:43] <blindcoder> just got FSC SPA^Winformation email about the "VMware SEX" application
[15:43] <blindcoder> then I realized it was "VMware ESX"
[15:43] <blindcoder> uwah, Siemens
[15:43] <blindcoder> I see that all day
[15:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, not siemens. it's a 50% doughter.
[15:44] <blindcoder> bad enough
[15:44] <blindcoder> greetings from COM :)
[15:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: ?
[15:45] <blindcoder> Siemens COM
[15:45] <blindcoder> where I am currently
[15:45] <netrunner> what is com?
[15:46] <netrunner> crazy operating museum?
[15:47] <blindcoder> crazy his the nail on the head, but COM is what happened when ICN and ICM merged late last year
[15:47] <netrunner> what I don't like with those siemens people is their lfa
[15:48] <blindcoder> live fscking analogy?\
[15:50] <netrunner> lust for acronyms :)
[15:51] <blindcoder> you you happen to know the AAA?
[15:51] <th> is there an emulator for running IRIX on cheap PC hardware?
[15:52] <blindcoder> mips64-emul?
[15:52] <fake> no!
[15:52] <fake> th: there is one commercial
[15:52] Action: blindcoder hides
[15:52] <th> fake: how pricey?
[15:52] <fake> th: you don't want to know
[15:52] <th> i need to run some fscking lum server
[15:53] <th> oh i should be careful. this communication is googlable.
[15:54] <fake> simos.stanford.edu
[15:54] <fake> th said that what he needs to with irix is fucking shihiiit!
[15:55] Action: fake shouting
[15:55] <blindcoder> and he's probably right :)
[16:54] <blindcoder> and now lvp runs on 2.6 kernels :)
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[16:59] <treo> re
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[18:55] Action: daja77 installed his latest build on grannys pc, no major flaws so far ;) 
[18:57] <mnemoc> daja77: what wm do you use with your granny?
[18:57] <daja77> kde
[18:58] <mnemoc> wow
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[18:59] <mnemoc> damn... i'm late for the kinesiologist... cu
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[19:38] <mnemoc> re
[19:38] <mnemoc> daja77: do you clean her KDE desktop or she use it just 'like it is'
[19:45] <netrunner> k,. recp,,emded sop coemt fpr womdpws`
[19:45] <netrunner> oups.
[19:45] <netrunner> shoud read: hm, recommended sip client for windows?
[19:51] <SMP> netrunner: x-lite?
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[20:38] <fake> SMP: it's *so* horrible to configure that
[20:39] <fake> SMP: btw, sip:fake-AT-f4k3-DOT-net
[20:39] <fake> i hope...
[20:48] <daja77> mnemoc: no i don't change it much
[20:49] <fake> boy
[20:49] <fake> there is this cable broadband carrier here
[20:49] <fake> they sell an end-user-product comparable to DSL
[20:50] <fake> and i was thinking about getting a combined digital tv/internet contact there
[20:50] <fake> now i found this:
[20:50] <fake> http://bec.at/news/22
[20:50] <fake> a *lot* of ports are blocked, and you are definitely *forbidden* to open any "server" on your connected machine (which may be only one)
[20:51] <fake> it includes the blocking of port IPSec
[20:51] <fake> s/port//
[20:51] <mnemoc> what a 'service' provider :\
[20:52] <blindcoder> so no X on my machine?
[20:52] <blindcoder> man, that sucks
[20:52] <blindcoder> how am I going to easily multitaks more than 120 terminals then?
[20:53] <fake> blindcoder: exactly. basically they could sue you, once you start windows with active samba shares
[20:53] <fake> or with ssh open
[20:53] <fake> jikes. glad i double-checked...
[21:12] <daja77> hm the nvidia package is somewhat broken
[21:16] <owl> dumb bird. sitting inmy pulli *gnarf*
[21:20] <mnemoc> owl: eat him
[21:22] <owl> mnemoc: nah
[21:23] <netrunner> fake: don't even think about asking them concerning X servers. you are obviously not the targeted customer group :)
[21:58] <fake> this company gets even more interesting. their 'digital tv' offer isn't DVB-C compatible
[21:59] <fake> in fact it's just analog tv, scrambled, digitized and equipped with some sort of program information not EPG-compatible.
[22:09] <netrunner> fake: don't say you ordered it
[22:36] <netrunner> sweet. openvpn up and running. now wlan your ass off freaking neighbour :)
[22:42] <fake> netrunner: no, do i look that stupid?
[22:42] <netrunner> fake: oehm ... :)
[22:43] <netrunner> openvpn is lacking an init script
[22:43] <th> bullshit
[22:44] <th> run it through /service (djb) or inittab
[22:44] <netrunner> th: hey, no such expressions here :)
[22:44] <th> netrunner: sorry - NOI
[22:45] <netrunner> inittab ...
[22:45] <mnemoc> :)
[22:52] <th> netrunner: you should spend a minute on djb /service mechanism.
[22:52] <SMP> even better: Sun's smf from Solaris 10 ;)
[22:53] <netrunner> th: oh, I did that years ago ... I just symlink a script to /service, no?
[22:53] <netrunner> th: the problem is installing, I haven't manually installed sth for some time .)
[22:54] <th> netrunner: actually you link a directory there. which contains a "run" script
[22:54] <th> netrunner: installing /service is a 4-liner
[22:54] <th> tar xfz daemontools-0.76.tar.gz
[22:54] <th> cd admin/daemontools-0.76
[22:54] <th> sed -i 's|^extern int errno;|#include <errno.h>|' src/error.h
[22:54] <th> package/install
[22:54] <th> perhaps you want to "wget -nc http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/daemontools-0.76.tar.gz" before.
[22:55] <netrunner> th: thx :)
[22:56] <SMP> 5 lines; first, do: mkdir /usr/local/package ; ln -s /usr/local/package/ /package ; cd /package
[22:56] <th> netrunner: and you should "exec" the openvpn daemon.
[22:57] Action: netrunner having fun sorting all lines here :)
[22:58] <th> does SIP support video too?
[22:58] <netrunner> th: sip is only initiating. 
[22:58] <th> ah yes.
[22:58] <netrunner> th: transport usually is rtp, which can afaik also transport video :)
[22:58] <th> what was the voip protocol?
[22:59] <th> http://www.wave-computer.de/wave/productDetails.html?artNr=OHSL10&
[23:00] <netrunner> hm. cp: cannot stat `compile/svscan': No such file or directory
[23:00] <SMP> SIP is for signalling, SDP for media handeshake and RTP for media transmission
[23:00] <netrunner> arh head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1
[23:00] <th> netrunner: so you have a newer "head" than i have?
[23:01] <th> SMP: will djb ever make his packages compile with recent environments?
[23:01] <netrunner> th: obviously. add a sed -i -e 's,head -1,head -n 1,' src/* to your lines :)
[23:02] <SMP> probably not. new packages will likely work - if he ever publishes something again
[23:05] <netrunner> th: what is that with exec? 
[23:07] <th> netrunner: your run script should exec the openvpn process.
[23:07] <th> netrunner: to not have 2 processes
[23:07] <netrunner> th: ok. do you recommend a central place for the dirs containing run scripts?
[23:07] <th> netrunner: so the "svc" util can deal with the service by sending signals to the correct process
[23:07] <th> netrunner: i always put it to /var/service/
[23:08] <th> ymmv
[23:08] <netrunner> th: ok. thx
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[23:41] <treo> gn8
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