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[08:52] <blindcoder> moin
[08:53] <blindcoder> mnemoc_: did that work?
[08:54] Action: blindcoder watches as his test-machine encrpts its root filesystem
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[09:05] <blindcoder> oops
[09:05] <blindcoder> accidentally encrypted my swap ;)
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[09:58] <treo> moin
[09:59] <blindcoder> moin treo 
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[11:27] <blindcoder> okay, next try at encrypting rootdevice
[11:27] <blindcoder> damn typos on mount commands :(
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[12:16] <SerWou> hello
[12:16] <SerWou> checking for gdk-pixbuf-csource... no
[12:16] <SerWou> configure: error: Could not find gdk-pixbuf-csource in your PATH
[12:16] <SerWou> and
[12:16] <SerWou> locate gdk-pixbuf-csource
[12:16] <SerWou> /opt/gnome24/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource
[12:17] <SerWou> how to set my PATH ?
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[12:20] <blindcoder> SerWou: what's your current path?
[12:20] <blindcoder> echo $PATH
[12:22] <SerWou> echo $PATH
[12:23] <SerWou> damned
[12:23] <blindcoder> hm?
[12:23] <blindcoder> heh
[12:24] <SerWou> export PATH=$PATH:/opt/gnome24/bin solve my problem 
[12:24] <blindcoder> yes, but it doesn't find the cause
[12:24] <SerWou> i had /usr/bin /usr/local/bin
[12:24] <blindcoder> have you just emerged your first gnome24 proram?
[12:24] <SerWou> echo $PATH
[12:24] <SerWou> i'm emerging gimp2.2
[12:25] <blindcoder> okay, have you had the /opt/gnome24 program before you logged in?
[12:25] <SerWou> no
[12:26] <blindcoder> okay, there's the problem
[12:26] <blindcoder> if you login next time it will be in the path
[12:26] <blindcoder>         for x in /usr/X11/sbin /usr/X11/bin /usr/games /usr/local/games \
[12:26] <blindcoder>                  /opt/*/sbin /opt/*/bin /opt/*/games $HOME/sbin $HOME/bin
[12:26] <blindcoder>         do
[12:26] <blindcoder>                 [ -d $x ] && export PATH="$PATH:$x"
[12:26] <blindcoder>         done
[12:26] <blindcoder> that's the corresponding code in /etc/profile
[12:27] <SerWou> i see
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[12:41] <blindcoder> YES! STRIKE! WEE!
[12:41] <blindcoder> encryption of an existing rootfs works!
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[13:21] <daja77> >_<
[13:21] <blindcoder> daja77: ^_^
[13:21] <blindcoder>         ^-- the way to go
[13:22] <daja77> i tried to set the ld_blibrary_path for pingus but it has noeffect
[13:23] <blindcoder> LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[13:24] <daja77> yes
[13:24] <blindcoder> doesn't it use the clanlib it was linked against?
[13:24] <daja77> i have two different versions of clanlib it it links against the wrong one
[13:25] <daja77> the package still breaks when compiling because it can't link against the new one
[13:28] <blindcoder> no --with-clanlib option?
[13:29] <blindcoder> whoops
[13:29] <blindcoder> now I have a dual-encrypted harddisk...
[13:29] <blindcoder> ph34r the power of switch if= and of=
[13:34] <daja77> no well the point is not that it would not find the paths but it fins /usr/lib earlier
[13:35] <blindcoder> daja77: why not install both in /opt?
[13:35] <blindcoder> /opt/clanlib06 /opt/clanlib07
[13:36] <daja77> don't know if i have to touch other packges when doin this
[13:36] <blindcoder> don't know, which packages are using clanlib?
[13:36] <daja77> just grepping for them
[13:38] <daja77> only hermes and pingus for old clanlib
[13:39] <blindcoder> that's manageable :)
[13:40] <daja77> yep
[13:40] Action: blindcoder looking forward to encypting his laptops rootfs ^^
[13:53] <daja77> clanlib: package/kasc/clanlib/clanlib.conf: line 64: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
[13:53] <daja77> O_o the file doesn't end there ..
[13:55] <blindcoder> does it source some other file?
[13:55] <blindcoder> that fscks up bash's line numbering
[13:56] <daja77> hexedit shows a eof char strange
[13:57] <blindcoder> o_O
[13:57] <blindcoder> you have messed that up quite nicely :)
[13:58] <daja77> but how
[13:58] <daja77> the statement itself looks perfectly sane, like the if above
[14:01] <daja77> ok found that one
[14:01] <daja77> :)
[14:04] <th> fake: ping
[14:04] <th> hey folks
[14:05] <daja77> hi th
[14:06] <th> blindcoder: you really did not understand the rescue idea
[14:06] <blindcoder> th: that's what I keep telling you
[14:06] <th> yea
[14:07] <blindcoder> and how would I understand it with the (lack of) documentation there is?
[14:07] <th> UTSL ;)
[14:07] <blindcoder> I did and I didn't get what it was doing there, either
[14:07] <th> i\m not really serious though
[14:08] <th> blindcoder: if you were at the source already - do you want me to answer some questions about details?
[14:08] <th> i'm willing to try to improve the system to be suitable for "simple booting"
[14:08] <blindcoder> th: two questions: how does it work and how can I extend it?
[14:08] <blindcoder> well, the second only, really
[14:08] <th> blindcoder: "fine" and "easily" ;-[
[14:08] <th> blindcoder: "fine" and "easily" ;-p
[14:08] <blindcoder> forget the first second
[14:09] <blindcoder> s/second/question/
[14:09] <th> ;)
[14:09] <th> i assume you understood the main point of that target.
[14:09] <th> it's "in-a-tar"
[14:09] <blindcoder> yes
[14:09] <th> so to get the system you extract a tar
[14:09] <th> and the idea how to extend is easy:
[14:09] <th> just create a second tar
[14:10] <th> which is extracted after the first
[14:10] <th> and then there is a /etc/boot.d/
[14:10] <th> where you can put files in to be exectuted
[14:10] <th> and yes - ATM it's overkill to use it to just boot a simple system
[14:11] <th> i do that though
[14:11] <blindcoder> well, one can also boot from a full blown filesystem on a usb-stick :)
[14:13] <blindcoder> anyway, rescue being overkill isn't necessarily bad
[14:13] <blindcoder> having an environment where you can get the system back into a usable state in case Something Bad Happens is a Good Thing
[14:13] <blindcoder> but atm it's just too cumbersome to use
[14:15] <th> to quote yourself:
[14:15] <th> It's certainly cumbersome having to download a 15MB iso or building a
[14:15] <th> sounds like a complain about the size to me
[14:15] <th> or whats the core of that?
[14:16] <blindcoder> no, it's cumbersome that I have to download it after the system is installed
[14:16] <blindcoder> so, to get encryption going I'd have to:
[14:16] <blindcoder> somehow get rescue
[14:16] <th> aehm.
[14:16] <blindcoder> create the tarball
[14:16] <th> you are talking about the encryption application only?
[14:16] <blindcoder> and then getting the system to boot from there
[14:16] <th> i mean:
[14:17] <blindcoder> th: that and whatever else there might be (root on RAID, etc)
[14:17] <th> ATM the rescue target is only a _rescue_ target.
[14:17] <th> not a multiple purpose boot-stage
[14:17] <th> _if_
[14:17] <th> it would be a multiple purpose rescue target.
[14:17] <th> you would not have to download it
[14:17] <blindcoder> yes, but I got the impression that you want it also to be used as a boot environment?
[14:17] <th> cause it would've been distributed with the system you want to boot with it
[14:18] <th> blindcoder: i just said two things:
[14:18] <th> 1) personally, i'm using it.
[14:18] <th> 2) it would be possible to use it.
[14:18] <th> the 2) would imply adaption and distribution with the system itself
[14:19] <blindcoder> then I got that completely wrong some ages ago :(
[14:19] Action: blindcoder goes into a dark corner and hangs his head in shame
[14:19] <th> what exactly did you get?
[14:20] <blindcoder> I thought you wanted the current boot process to be entirely replaced by rescue
[14:20] <th> omg
[14:20] <th> how could you think that/
[14:20] <th> i'm not the kind of person forcing people to use special stuff.
[14:20] <th> i only provide stuff and let them choose
[14:21] <blindcoder> dunno :/
[14:21] <th> and i think that the current rescue is not very suitable for simple booting
[14:21] <blindcoder> maybe I had a bad dream about that once :)
[14:22] <th> btw: what's the status of kexec?
[14:22] <blindcoder> kexec?
[14:24] <th> yea
[14:24] <blindcoder> what's kexec?
[14:24] <th> exec for kernel?
[14:25] <blindcoder> kernel mode linux? or what?
[14:25] Action: blindcoder confused
[14:26] <th> Kexec is a patch to the Linux kernel that allows you to boot directly to a new kernel from the currently running one.
[14:27] <blindcoder> nice
[14:27] <th> that way you could have a different kernel in your productive system than in your boot-system
[14:27] <th> that would be cool
[14:28] <blindcoder> indeed
[14:50] <th> hmmm - what would a boot system be without bootsplash and nice graphics?
[14:50] Action: th got inspired to play with some low-level kernel stuff
[14:55] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:02] Action: blindcoder making a backup of his lapto now
[15:09] <blindcoder> fake: FR for livecd: ipw2100!
[15:28] <th> hmm my gf tried installing a trunk-crystal (iso from unofficial/fake/) and it just kernel panics on boot
[15:29] <th> (process swapper)
[15:37] <blindcoder> 10% of backup complete :(
[15:44] Action: blindcoder --> bath
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[17:15] <blindcoder> backup reached 50%
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[17:17] <mnemoc> blindcoder: is evdev a xorg or a kernel module?
[17:18] <th> kernel
[17:21] <blindcoder> mnemoc: kernel
[17:22] <mnemoc> find /lib/modules/2.6.10-dist/ -name '*ev*dev*' | wc -l
[17:22] <mnemoc> 0
[17:22] <mnemoc> snif snif snif
[17:23] <blindcoder> mnemoc: have a look if it is already in your kernel
[17:23] <blindcoder> mnemoc: Device Drivers -> Input Device Support -> Event Interface
[17:24] <blindcoder> mnemoc: or grep CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV /usr/src/linux/.config
[17:24] <daja77> obwohl so schnell is die nich
[17:24] <mnemoc> CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
[17:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: then you already have what you need
[17:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: do you have /dev/input/event* ?
[17:25] <mnemoc> daja77: due to what?
[17:26] <daja77> just ignore ...
[17:26] <mnemoc> ok :)
[17:26] <mnemoc> blindcoder: yes 0 and 1
[17:27] <blindcoder> mnemoc: that should be fine
[17:27] <mnemoc> :'(
[17:28] <blindcoder> mnemoc: I can't look right now because I booted my laptop with the livecd and currently a dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/disc | bzip2 is running
[17:29] <mnemoc> don't worry :) i can live without touchpad scrolling for now :)
[17:29] <mnemoc> thanks a lot anyway
[17:29] <blindcoder> you're welcombe
[17:30] <blindcoder> 60% :/
[17:31] <blindcoder> man, I really need a hardware bzip2 compressor :(
[17:39] <blindcoder> wow
[17:39] <blindcoder> 5% in 10 minutes
[17:42] <mnemoc> only 70 minutes left? :)
[17:44] <blindcoder> nah, the last 3.5 gb should go fairly quick
[17:44] <blindcoder> because I filled them from /dev/zero
[18:14] <blindcoder> 17000 MB of a 20GB hd backep up
[18:14] <blindcoder> now at around 2MB/sec
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[18:24] <blindcoder> 18000
[18:28] <blindcoder> 19000
[18:28] <blindcoder> done \o/
[18:28] <blindcoder> compressed to 9.7GB
[18:34] <daja77> string_util.cpp:32: error: `stderr' undeclared (first use this function)
[18:34] <daja77> ...
[18:40] <blindcoder> Encryption of laptopt harddisk in progress
[18:40] <blindcoder> daja77: #include <whateverdefinesstderr> ?
[18:41] <blindcoder> encyrpting with 3MB/sec
[18:41] <daja77> i know
[18:41] <daja77> i mean i am just suprised that someone releases sth this way
[18:42] <blindcoder> well, just because something is open source doesn't mean it's quality is automatically better :)
[18:42] <daja77> but the new ppracer package works now ^^
[18:43] <blindcoder> nice ;)
[18:43] <blindcoder> finally some work for my nvidia card :D
[18:44] <daja77> ;)
[18:44] <daja77> discussion with the author atm ^^
[18:47] <th> blindcoder: you should get acronis true image.
[18:47] <th> blindcoder: it does that job in about 10 minutes
[18:47] <th> blindcoder: or less
[18:48] <daja77> .oO (i hate the fixed in cvs excuses)
[18:51] <blindcoder> th: compress a 20GB hd with bzip2 in 10 minutes?
[18:51] <blindcoder> daja77: yes, the "fixed in svn" are much better
[18:52] <daja77> all the same 
[18:53] Action: blindcoder throws a "it's documented in the wiki, so it's not a bug" excuse at daja77 
[18:54] Action: daja77 throws awful smelling things from the kitchen at blindcoder 
[18:55] <blindcoder> HEY, I _just_ cleaned up *snif*
[18:56] <daja77> hrhr
[18:56] <daja77> do it again, sam! 
[18:56] <blindcoder> 2.75GB encrypted so far
[19:38] <blindcoder> 8.88GB encrypted so far
[20:27] <daja77> mnemoc: any news from madtux?
[20:28] <blindcoder> daja77: he wanted to land in germany this week, no?
[20:28] <blindcoder> that reminds me, I have to have the posters printed tomorrow
[20:29] <daja77> yes but i need to know when
[20:37] <netrunner> hm, voip over wlan-dsl-asterisk-isdn is ununderstandable :(
[20:37] <netrunner> hm. maybe I should add that I had everything over a vpn ...
[20:48] <blindcoder> 18.08GB encrypted so far
[20:50] <blindcoder> w00t, done
[20:51] <blindcoder> and booting :)
[20:54] <blindcoder> back on encrypted laptop :D\
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[22:56] <th> blindcoder: it creates image of your disks with knowledge about how data is stored in the filesystem
[22:56] <th> blindcoder: it's _really_ fast.
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