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[09:05] <blindcoder> oops [09:05] <blindcoder> accidentally encrypted my swap ;) [09:57] treo (~xfman@D8748.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:58] <treo> moin [09:59] <blindcoder> moin treo [10:04] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-131-163.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:20] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.5) joined #rocklinux. [11:27] <blindcoder> okay, next try at encrypting rootdevice [11:27] <blindcoder> damn typos on mount commands :( [11:34] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.59) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:11] netcrow (~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:16] <SerWou> hello [12:16] <SerWou> checking for gdk-pixbuf-csource... no [12:16] <SerWou> configure: error: Could not find gdk-pixbuf-csource in your PATH [12:16] <SerWou> and [12:16] <SerWou> locate gdk-pixbuf-csource [12:16] <SerWou> /opt/gnome24/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource [12:17] <SerWou> how to set my PATH ? [12:18] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E504CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:20] <blindcoder> SerWou: what's your current path? [12:20] <blindcoder> echo $PATH [12:22] <SerWou> echo $PATH [12:23] <SerWou> damned [12:23] <blindcoder> hm? [12:23] <blindcoder> heh [12:24] <SerWou> export PATH=$PATH:/opt/gnome24/bin solve my problem [12:24] <blindcoder> yes, but it doesn't find the cause [12:24] <SerWou> i had /usr/bin /usr/local/bin [12:24] <blindcoder> have you just emerged your first gnome24 proram? [12:24] <SerWou> echo $PATH [12:24] <SerWou> i'm emerging gimp2.2 [12:25] <blindcoder> okay, have you had the /opt/gnome24 program before you logged in? [12:25] <SerWou> no [12:26] <blindcoder> okay, there's the problem [12:26] <blindcoder> if you login next time it will be in the path [12:26] <blindcoder> for x in /usr/X11/sbin /usr/X11/bin /usr/games /usr/local/games \ [12:26] <blindcoder> /opt/*/sbin /opt/*/bin /opt/*/games $HOME/sbin $HOME/bin [12:26] <blindcoder> do [12:26] <blindcoder> [ -d $x ] && export PATH="$PATH:$x" [12:26] <blindcoder> done [12:26] <blindcoder> that's the corresponding code in /etc/profile [12:27] <SerWou> i see [12:39] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-083-224-117.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:39] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-102-140.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:39] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [12:41] <blindcoder> YES! STRIKE! WEE! [12:41] <blindcoder> encryption of an existing rootfs works! [12:45] SteffenP (steffen@pD9E504CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [13:10] SteffenP (~steffen@pD9E504CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:18] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: [13:21] <daja77> >_< [13:21] <blindcoder> daja77: ^_^ [13:21] <blindcoder> ^-- the way to go [13:22] <daja77> i tried to set the ld_blibrary_path for pingus but it has noeffect [13:23] <blindcoder> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? [13:24] <daja77> yes [13:24] <blindcoder> doesn't it use the clanlib it was linked against? [13:24] <daja77> i have two different versions of clanlib it it links against the wrong one [13:25] <daja77> the package still breaks when compiling because it can't link against the new one [13:28] <blindcoder> no --with-clanlib option? [13:29] <blindcoder> whoops [13:29] <blindcoder> now I have a dual-encrypted harddisk... [13:29] <blindcoder> ph34r the power of switch if= and of= [13:34] <daja77> no well the point is not that it would not find the paths but it fins /usr/lib earlier [13:35] <blindcoder> daja77: why not install both in /opt? [13:35] <blindcoder> /opt/clanlib06 /opt/clanlib07 [13:36] <daja77> don't know if i have to touch other packges when doin this [13:36] <blindcoder> don't know, which packages are using clanlib? [13:36] <daja77> just grepping for them [13:38] <daja77> only hermes and pingus for old clanlib [13:39] <blindcoder> that's manageable :) [13:40] <daja77> yep [13:40] Action: blindcoder looking forward to encypting his laptops rootfs ^^ [13:53] <daja77> clanlib: package/kasc/clanlib/clanlib.conf: line 64: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' [13:53] <daja77> O_o the file doesn't end there .. [13:55] <blindcoder> does it source some other file? [13:55] <blindcoder> that fscks up bash's line numbering [13:56] <daja77> hexedit shows a eof char strange [13:57] <blindcoder> o_O [13:57] <blindcoder> you have messed that up quite nicely :) [13:58] <daja77> but how [13:58] <daja77> the statement itself looks perfectly sane, like the if above [14:01] <daja77> ok found that one [14:01] <daja77> :) [14:04] <th> fake: ping [14:04] <th> hey folks [14:05] <daja77> hi th [14:06] <th> blindcoder: you really did not understand the rescue idea [14:06] <blindcoder> th: that's what I keep telling you [14:06] <th> yea [14:07] <blindcoder> and how would I understand it with the (lack of) documentation there is? [14:07] <th> UTSL ;) [14:07] <blindcoder> I did and I didn't get what it was doing there, either [14:07] <th> i\m not really serious though [14:08] <th> blindcoder: if you were at the source already - do you want me to answer some questions about details? [14:08] <th> i'm willing to try to improve the system to be suitable for "simple booting" [14:08] <blindcoder> th: two questions: how does it work and how can I extend it? [14:08] <blindcoder> well, the second only, really [14:08] <th> blindcoder: "fine" and "easily" ;-[ [14:08] <th> blindcoder: "fine" and "easily" ;-p [14:08] <blindcoder> forget the first second [14:09] <blindcoder> s/second/question/ [14:09] <th> ;) [14:09] <th> i assume you understood the main point of that target. [14:09] <th> it's "in-a-tar" [14:09] <blindcoder> yes [14:09] <th> so to get the system you extract a tar [14:09] <th> and the idea how to extend is easy: [14:09] <th> just create a second tar [14:10] <th> which is extracted after the first [14:10] <th> and then there is a /etc/boot.d/ [14:10] <th> where you can put files in to be exectuted [14:10] <th> and yes - ATM it's overkill to use it to just boot a simple system [14:11] <th> i do that though [14:11] <blindcoder> well, one can also boot from a full blown filesystem on a usb-stick :) [14:13] <blindcoder> anyway, rescue being overkill isn't necessarily bad [14:13] <blindcoder> having an environment where you can get the system back into a usable state in case Something Bad Happens is a Good Thing [14:13] <blindcoder> but atm it's just too cumbersome to use [14:15] <th> to quote yourself: [14:15] <th> It's certainly cumbersome having to download a 15MB iso or building a [14:15] <th> sounds like a complain about the size to me [14:15] <th> or whats the core of that? [14:16] <blindcoder> no, it's cumbersome that I have to download it after the system is installed [14:16] <blindcoder> so, to get encryption going I'd have to: [14:16] <blindcoder> somehow get rescue [14:16] <th> aehm. [14:16] <blindcoder> create the tarball [14:16] <th> you are talking about the encryption application only? [14:16] <blindcoder> and then getting the system to boot from there [14:16] <th> i mean: [14:17] <blindcoder> th: that and whatever else there might be (root on RAID, etc) [14:17] <th> ATM the rescue target is only a _rescue_ target. [14:17] <th> not a multiple purpose boot-stage [14:17] <th> _if_ [14:17] <th> it would be a multiple purpose rescue target. [14:17] <th> you would not have to download it [14:17] <blindcoder> yes, but I got the impression that you want it also to be used as a boot environment? [14:17] <th> cause it would've been distributed with the system you want to boot with it [14:18] <th> blindcoder: i just said two things: [14:18] <th> 1) personally, i'm using it. [14:18] <th> 2) it would be possible to use it. [14:18] <th> the 2) would imply adaption and distribution with the system itself [14:19] <blindcoder> then I got that completely wrong some ages ago :( [14:19] Action: blindcoder goes into a dark corner and hangs his head in shame [14:19] <th> what exactly did you get? [14:20] <blindcoder> I thought you wanted the current boot process to be entirely replaced by rescue [14:20] <th> omg [14:20] <th> how could you think that/ [14:20] <th> i'm not the kind of person forcing people to use special stuff. [14:20] <th> i only provide stuff and let them choose [14:21] <blindcoder> dunno :/ [14:21] <th> and i think that the current rescue is not very suitable for simple booting [14:21] <blindcoder> maybe I had a bad dream about that once :) [14:22] <th> btw: what's the status of kexec? [14:22] <blindcoder> kexec? [14:24] <th> yea [14:24] <blindcoder> what's kexec? [14:24] <th> exec for kernel? [14:25] <blindcoder> kernel mode linux? or what? [14:25] Action: blindcoder confused [14:26] <th> Kexec is a patch to the Linux kernel that allows you to boot directly to a new kernel from the currently running one. [14:27] <blindcoder> nice [14:27] <th> that way you could have a different kernel in your productive system than in your boot-system [14:27] <th> that would be cool [14:28] <blindcoder> indeed [14:50] <th> hmmm - what would a boot system be without bootsplash and nice graphics? [14:50] Action: th got inspired to play with some low-level kernel stuff [14:55] <blindcoder> hehe [15:02] Action: blindcoder making a backup of his lapto now [15:09] <blindcoder> fake: FR for livecd: ipw2100! [15:28] <th> hmm my gf tried installing a trunk-crystal (iso from unofficial/fake/) and it just kernel panics on boot [15:29] <th> (process swapper) [15:37] <blindcoder> 10% of backup complete :( [15:44] Action: blindcoder --> bath [16:24] treo (~xfman@D8748.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [16:27] [anders]_ (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [16:28] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:32] [anders] (~anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:46] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:07] treo (~xfman@Dbfcf.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. 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[17:18] <th> kernel [17:21] <blindcoder> mnemoc: kernel [17:22] <mnemoc> find /lib/modules/2.6.10-dist/ -name '*ev*dev*' | wc -l [17:22] <mnemoc> 0 [17:22] <mnemoc> snif snif snif [17:23] <blindcoder> mnemoc: have a look if it is already in your kernel [17:23] <blindcoder> mnemoc: Device Drivers -> Input Device Support -> Event Interface [17:24] <blindcoder> mnemoc: or grep CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV /usr/src/linux/.config [17:24] <daja77> obwohl so schnell is die nich [17:24] <mnemoc> CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y [17:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: then you already have what you need [17:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: do you have /dev/input/event* ? [17:25] <mnemoc> daja77: due to what? [17:26] <daja77> just ignore ... [17:26] <mnemoc> ok :) [17:26] <mnemoc> blindcoder: yes 0 and 1 [17:27] <blindcoder> mnemoc: that should be fine [17:27] <mnemoc> :'( [17:28] <blindcoder> mnemoc: I can't look right now because I booted my laptop with the livecd and currently a dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/disc | bzip2 is running [17:29] <mnemoc> don't worry :) i can live without touchpad scrolling for now :) [17:29] <mnemoc> thanks a lot anyway [17:29] <blindcoder> you're welcombe [17:30] <blindcoder> 60% :/ [17:31] <blindcoder> man, I really need a hardware bzip2 compressor :( [17:39] <blindcoder> wow [17:39] <blindcoder> 5% in 10 minutes [17:42] <mnemoc> only 70 minutes left? :) [17:44] <blindcoder> nah, the last 3.5 gb should go fairly quick [17:44] <blindcoder> because I filled them from /dev/zero [18:14] <blindcoder> 17000 MB of a 20GB hd backep up [18:14] <blindcoder> now at around 2MB/sec [18:20] treo (~xfman@Dbfcf.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:24] <blindcoder> 18000 [18:28] <blindcoder> 19000 [18:28] <blindcoder> done \o/ [18:28] <blindcoder> compressed to 9.7GB [18:34] <daja77> string_util.cpp:32: error: `stderr' undeclared (first use this function) [18:34] <daja77> ... [18:40] <blindcoder> Encryption of laptopt harddisk in progress [18:40] <blindcoder> daja77: #include <whateverdefinesstderr> ? [18:41] <blindcoder> encyrpting with 3MB/sec [18:41] <daja77> i know [18:41] <daja77> i mean i am just suprised that someone releases sth this way [18:42] <blindcoder> well, just because something is open source doesn't mean it's quality is automatically better :) [18:42] <daja77> but the new ppracer package works now ^^ [18:43] <blindcoder> nice ;) [18:43] <blindcoder> finally some work for my nvidia card :D [18:44] <daja77> ;) [18:44] <daja77> discussion with the author atm ^^ [18:47] <th> blindcoder: you should get acronis true image. [18:47] <th> blindcoder: it does that job in about 10 minutes [18:47] <th> blindcoder: or less [18:48] <daja77> .oO (i hate the fixed in cvs excuses) [18:51] <blindcoder> th: compress a 20GB hd with bzip2 in 10 minutes? [18:51] <blindcoder> daja77: yes, the "fixed in svn" are much better [18:52] <daja77> all the same [18:53] Action: blindcoder throws a "it's documented in the wiki, so it's not a bug" excuse at daja77 [18:54] Action: daja77 throws awful smelling things from the kitchen at blindcoder [18:55] <blindcoder> HEY, I _just_ cleaned up *snif* [18:56] <daja77> hrhr [18:56] <daja77> do it again, sam! [18:56] <blindcoder> 2.75GB encrypted so far [19:38] <blindcoder> 8.88GB encrypted so far [20:27] <daja77> mnemoc: any news from madtux? [20:28] <blindcoder> daja77: he wanted to land in germany this week, no? [20:28] <blindcoder> that reminds me, I have to have the posters printed tomorrow [20:29] <daja77> yes but i need to know when [20:37] <netrunner> hm, voip over wlan-dsl-asterisk-isdn is ununderstandable :( [20:37] <netrunner> hm. maybe I should add that I had everything over a vpn ... [20:48] <blindcoder> 18.08GB encrypted so far [20:50] <blindcoder> w00t, done [20:51] <blindcoder> and booting :) [20:54] <blindcoder> back on encrypted laptop :D\ [21:33] SteffenP (~steffen@pD9E504CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [22:09] netcrow (~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "leaving" [22:42] <treo> connecting to the land of fluffy sheeps - gn8 @ all [22:46] treo (~xfman@Dbfcf.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [22:56] <th> blindcoder: it creates image of your disks with knowledge about how data is stored in the filesystem [22:56] <th> blindcoder: it's _really_ fast. [00:00] --- Mon Feb 28 2005