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[09:01] <blindcoder> GREETINGS FROM CLT
[09:10] <daja77> clifford: ping
[09:38] Action: netrunner greets the clt from his bed
[10:09] <blindcoder> heh
[10:09] Action: blindcoder greets netrunners bed
[12:00] <blindcoder> /awa/away gone
[12:00] <daja77> hrhr
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[12:45] <fake> hi
[12:45] <fake> greetz to clt!
[12:45] <daja77> hi fake :)
[12:46] <daja77> sigh the wheelchair is attracting really strange ppl
[12:47] <fake> what kind of strange ppl?
[12:47] <daja77> there was an old man, telling me his story how he came out of the wheelchair
[12:48] <daja77> by using training methods and stuff
[12:48] <daja77> somehow annoyed me
[12:48] <fake> ... i guess.
[12:49] <daja77> and he was talking damn slow
[12:49] <daja77> my coffeine level is too high for slow speech
[12:52] <fake> drrrrrtzk!
[12:52] <fake> ;-)
[12:52] <fake> you just have to keep saying 'Buffer Underflow' ;-)))
[13:02] <fake> FUCK
[13:03] <fake> FUCK FUCK FUCK
[13:03] <fake> this world hates me
[13:04] <fake> whenever i am looking forward to something, the world waits until i am really eager for it to happen and even my last bit of pessimism has changed to bright, shining happines - it snaps my neck
[13:04] <fake> grrrr
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[14:01] <fake> or... maybe not!
[14:02] <fake> conclusion: the world has a very, very strange kind of humor.
[14:05] <fake> http://www.whatthehack.org/
[14:05] <fake> the page is up
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[14:42] <blindcoder> fake: indeed it has
[15:09] <fake> me and fixdiff are are getting close friends...
[15:13] <blindcoder> yeah, I can see that :)
[15:18] <daja77> fake: me too ;)
[15:43] <fake> eat this, telekom: http://www6.inode.at/kundenbereich/status.php?
[15:45] <fake> they even have an installation guide for linux...
[15:45] <daja77> blindcoder shows weird stuff
[15:53] <blindcoder> xpde doesn't qualify as weird
[15:53] <blindcoder> strange at best
[16:37] <blindcoder> daja77 shows weird stuff
[16:43] <daja77> hehe
[16:50] <netrunner> hm. my rock on a remote machine now decided not to load its ethernet drivers any more. weird.
[17:01] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ 
[17:04] <mnemoc_> hi daja77 
[17:04] <daja77> answered query, dunno if you have seen that
[17:14] <mnemoc_> yes, :)
[17:14] <daja77> good
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[17:27] <treo> hi
[17:37] <netrunner> http://www.vanheusden.com/btail/
[17:39] <mnemoc_> o_O
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[19:50] <th> hmmm subversion-1.1.2 fails because of some swig issue
[19:56] <mnemoc_> th: subversion-1.1.2 is known to be broken as hell
[19:56] <mnemoc_> th: it even has leaks
[19:57] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc
[19:57] <th> mnemoc: oh. that's nice
[19:57] <th> mnemoc: so i better skip this version
[19:57] <mnemoc> yes
[19:57] <mnemoc> 1.1.3 is ok
[19:57] <th> but not out yet?
[19:58] <mnemoc> of course it is :)
[19:58] <mnemoc> r5572 | rene | 2005-01-15 05:47:15 -0300 (Sat, 15 Jan 2005) | 2 lines
[19:58] <mnemoc> * updated subversion (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3)
[20:01] <th> perhaps i should get on the commit ml for that
[20:02] <th> perhaps we should subscribe some rocklinux mailinglist to t2-commit-list
[20:02] <mnemoc> hehe
[20:03] <mnemoc> the delay on the commits of rock is un-motivating to send update patches
[20:03] <th> thats not hte case for me
[20:04] <mnemoc> if you found a patch for updating to the last-2 still pending on submaster...
[20:06] <th> yea that sucks
[20:07] <mnemoc> imo, it's imposible for one person to keep the pace.... but this is an old topic
[20:12] <th> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/CHANGES
[20:12] <th> looks like the only problem fixed is the compile problem from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3
[20:12] <mnemoc> the only 'visible' change
[20:13] <mnemoc> oh
[20:13] <th> _developer_-visible
[20:13] <mnemoc> weird
[20:13] <th> yea
[20:13] <th> is the 1.1.3 patch already in submaster?
[20:13] <mnemoc> i known svk guy commited lot of fixes for leaks
[20:14] <th> mm
[20:14] <mnemoc> but i guess they are grouped on 'perl problems'
[20:14] <th> heh
[20:20] <th> hmm 1.1.3 still fails with the swig issue
[20:21] <mnemoc> what swig are you using?
[20:21] <mnemoc> swig-1.3.24 has an API change
[20:27] <th> hmm
[20:28] <th> so i better go for 1.3.19
[20:28] <th> subversion requires at least that version
[20:28] <th> oh
[20:28] <th> i updated from 1.3.21
[20:28] <th> so i better skip that update
[20:28] <mnemoc> 1.3.21 works ok here
[20:28] <th> i did it only because 1.1.2 problem smelled a bit like swig
[20:29] <mnemoc> but if swig-1.3.24 is on submaster, vote against it
[20:29] <netrunner> maybe submaster 1.1.2 was already for the new swig?
[20:30] <mnemoc> nope
[20:30] <mnemoc> subversion people is against swig API change
[20:30] <mnemoc> they wont support it
[20:30] <netrunner> wonderful. lets create swig-svn and swig-normal
[20:31] <netrunner> opensource just slapped you in your face.
[20:31] <mnemoc> <@sussman> the swig people keep making radical incompatible changes to their API <@sussman> so svn hasn't caught up to the crazy new .24 api
[20:31] <netrunner> mnemoc: that doesn't  say they won't, just that they didn't yet.
[20:32] <mnemoc> that's the line i copied on T2's wiki
[20:32] <mnemoc> just as 'reference'
[20:32] <mnemoc> at least they wont until swig re-stabilize their api
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[20:43] <treo> re
[20:58] <th> ohh trunk is on 1.1.3 already :-/
[20:59] <mnemoc> :D
[20:59] <th> hotfix_r9293.patch  what's that for?
[20:59] <mnemoc> r9293 is older than 1.1.3
[21:00] <th> but what's that for?
[21:00] <th> it's still in trunk
[21:00] Action: mnemoc needs a new harddrive to keep more trees
[21:00] <mnemoc> including a copy of rock-dev
[21:00] <th> the hotfix is strange.
[21:01] <th> -          if (!*message)
[21:01] <th> -            message = NULL;
[21:01] <th> this first
[21:01] <th> and:
[21:01] <th> -                                     err->message ? err->message : "",
[21:01] <mnemoc> o_O
[21:01] <th> +                                     err->message,
[21:01] <th> 2nd
[21:01] <th> there is no comment on tha patch
[21:01] <th> hmmmm
[21:02] <mnemoc> bad habit
[21:02] <mnemoc> svn log package/*/subversion/hotfix_r9293.patch   ?
[21:02] <th> pthread-link.patch this one too...
[21:02] <th> they are both not in stable
[21:03] <th> some of that might be necessary with trunk's gcc version
[21:03] <mnemoc> T2 has pthread-link.patch but not that weird 'hotfix'
[21:07] <treo> brb, starting e17
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[22:03] <th> some swsuspend knowledge in here?
[22:05] <th> would swsuspend work if swap is on lvm?
[22:06] <th> e.g. if swap needs some work before it's available
[22:25] <owl> yes. swsuspend. here
[22:27] <mnemoc> th: you have your swap over lvm??
[22:27] <th> sure
[22:27] <th> everything is on lvm
[22:27] <mnemoc> i'm not that brave :)
[22:28] <mnemoc> root+swap+lvm_volume :)
[22:29] <th> on some systems i have a 100MB partition for kernel and initrd
[22:29] <th> on other systems thats on flash or cdrom
[22:30] <th> the rest is exactly one partion for lvm
[22:30] <th> including lv's for root, swap, everything
[22:30] <mnemoc> nice
[22:55] <th> i guess my initial question is like: is a resume from swsusp to be done before anything else in userland
[23:02] <th> so i would need to initiate resume from userland just as i do for suspend
[23:33] <tfing> th: you can put swsuspend in the initrd
[23:34] <th> tfing: to do the resume?
[23:35] <tfing> th: yes
[23:35] <th> so resume can be initiated from userland as suspend can?
[23:36] <th> give it 5 minutes or something
[23:37] <tfing> i suppose so
[23:51] <treo> gn8
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