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[09:19] <blindcoder> morning
[10:06] <blindcoder> th: !!!
[10:19] <owl> moin
[10:20] <owl> someone has a clue about postgresql?
[10:44] <blindcoder> moin
[10:44] <blindcoder> the postgresql booth here on CLT maybe :)
[10:45] <owl> hrm. ok. not there :p
[10:55] <owl> i did say, that i'm _really_ hating debian, yes?
[11:27] <th> blindcoder: what's up?
[11:30] <blindcoder> th: we've got some isos to upload
[11:30] <th> blindcoder: gimme urls. no problem
[11:30] <blindcoder> but we need write access on iso.rocklinux.de because you can't wget them from here
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[11:30] <th> blindcoder: is fake there?
[11:31] <blindcoder> th: only daja and me
[11:31] <th> blindcoder: ok - we can do this.
[11:31] <th> blindcoder: can you give me a public key?
[11:31] <blindcoder> sure
[11:32] <th> blindcoder: pm it to me please
[11:32] <blindcoder> =q th
[11:33] <owl> why the henk does 'gallery2-installer' complain about failing identd authentication, if i'm trying to use it with an encrypted password? (with postgresql)
[11:33] <th> blindcoder: just a second
[11:34] <blindcoder> sure
[11:34] <th> blindcoder: try to upload into the clt directory in my home.
[11:36] <th> i'll do the sorting then
[11:36] <blindcoder> okay
[11:41] <blindcoder> th: what is your username?
[11:41] <th> th
[11:45] <th> blindcoder: works?
[11:46] <blindcoder>     nah, the onther machine doesn't eat my key
[12:30] <blindcoder> th: okay, all data transmitted
[12:32] <blindcoder> cool
[12:32] <blindcoder> the hw RNG of my centrino laptop outputs myriads of little 'c' characters
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[14:27] <netrunner> http://www.sc.maricopa.edu/fradella/musings/rules_for_life_after_school.htm
[14:27] <netrunner> I like rule 11 :)
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[15:16] <Nutterpc> hello all
[15:16] <Nutterpc> few queries bout rock linux, anyone care to have a shot at answering?
[15:21] <blindcoder> sure
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[15:25] <^Nutterpc> damn adsl
[15:25] <netrunner> Mutterpc: just ask, and wait a bit until someone has toroughly taxed his brain on your question ;)
[15:25] <^Nutterpc> LOL
[15:25] <^Nutterpc> :P
[15:25] <^Nutterpc> well used gentoo, got bored with it
[15:26] <^Nutterpc> used a fair few linux distros, never really found one which suited me comfortably :)\
[15:26] <^Nutterpc> but am alternating between Linux & FreeBSD atm
[15:28] <^Nutterpc> and on reasonably powered machines (eg: more than 1Ghz & 512Mb RAM) rough build time of Rock Linux, would be the main query
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[15:29] <^Nutterpc> and I'm also coming into possession of an SGI Indy Workstation in the next few weeks
[15:29] <netrunner> Mutterpc: build time is relative. depends what you build. bootdisk is built in a few hours (on my build machine)
[15:29] <^Nutterpc> so wanna see how well rock might work on that :)
[15:29] <^Nutterpc> its Nutterpc, not Mutterpc :)
[15:29] <netrunner> oh :)
[15:29] <netrunner> just wondered. would be german for mom's pc :)
[15:30] <^Nutterpc> lol
[15:30] <^Nutterpc> an SGI Indy that's been upgraded to an R5000 cpu too
[15:30] <^Nutterpc> normally they are R4600's
[15:31] Action: netrunner isn't very familiar with non-x86 hw :/
[15:31] <^Nutterpc> my machine beefy enuff tho
[15:31] <^Nutterpc> and me upgrades due in soon too
[15:31] <^Nutterpc> AMD64 =)
[15:33] <^Nutterpc> are you able to use the disks on the site to build the system from, or can you use an existing distro like Knoppix to download the script and work from that?
[15:37] <^Nutterpc> as if I can find out most of the finer details for how to set it up, and whatever else I need to know........I might be able to do benchmarks on available systems I have here using different system configurations & linux distros
[15:38] <^Nutterpc> and I'm sure that benchmarks could be useful :)
[15:39] <netrunner> Nutterpc: 'should' be possible to use any installed linux system. 
[15:39] <netrunner> Nutterpc: http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/HomePage is a documentation wiki which could answer a few questions.
[15:40] <netrunner> it's not yet complete but contains already a load of information.
[15:40] <^Nutterpc> awesome
[15:41] <^Nutterpc> hehehe, one thing I've always wanted to do, which I never got round to using gentoo, was to build a linux system using dietlibc instead of glibc & nptl
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[15:44] <netrunner> Nutterpc: treat this dietlibc thing with care. dietlibc is by far not as complete as glibc. Software that makes extensive use of more complicated functions does not work with dietlibc (alone).
[15:45] <netrunner> Nutterpc: dietlibc is helpful e.g. in our bootdisk target where we build the neccessary tools with dietlibc.
[15:45] <Nutterpc> ahh ok
[15:48] <netrunner> Nutterpc: we have a dietlibc target which (afaik) tries to add the missing functionality by adding missing headers from glibc to the package. but I don't really like that approach.
[15:48] <Nutterpc> sounds scary in a way
[15:48] <netrunner> jup. maybe I got that wrong. :)
[15:49] <blindcoder> dietlibc target is scheduled for removel anyway
[15:50] <blindcoder> unmaintained and chronically broken
[15:50] <Nutterpc> hehe, no point having a broken package in something
[15:50] <blindcoder> no, the taget is broken
[15:50] <Nutterpc> only leads to random hair pullage :)
[15:50] <blindcoder> not the package
[15:50] <Nutterpc> ahh ok
[15:52] <Nutterpc> should be interesting, just gotta wait for the livecd to download and hope I can find a spare blank cd here somewhere :P
[15:54] <Nutterpc> as I need to get a linux system running to finish developing my iptables firewall on
[15:55] <netrunner> Nutterpc: livecd works quite cool. 
[15:55] Action: netrunner going to improve his russian a bit.
[15:56] <Nutterpc> ya, also going to a major lan party in a few weeks
[15:56] <Nutterpc> which I am running the Linux/BSD Installfest =)
[15:58] <Nutterpc> that's another reason why I am looking round at what distros that have LiveCD's I can download and have a gander at
[16:02] <Nutterpc> hehehe, russian, I don't know much of it, but slowly learning
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[16:38] <treo> hi
[16:52] <SerWou> anyone installed Webmin on rocklinux ? got some errors, like "Error - Failed to open file" when i try to log on it
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[18:56] <th> hmmm swsusp utils not yet packaged for rock?
[18:56] <th> or did i miss them?
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[19:21] <netrunner> th: I think I commited some script for it ... iirc ...
[19:22] <netrunner> hm, seems not. I remember I did something with it, cannot remember though.
[19:50] <th> ok - i go figure...
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[20:34] <SerWou> hello guys
[20:34] <SerWou> where is rc.local on rocklinux ?
[20:34] <mnemoc_> there is no rc.local on rock
[20:34] <SerWou> ok ;)
[20:34] <SerWou> how to start my ftp server at the boot time ?
[20:35] <mnemoc_> xinetd?
[20:35] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ 
[20:35] <mnemoc_> hi daja77 
[20:35] <SerWou> just had a line in xinetd will be ok ?
[20:36] <mnemoc_> inetd use lines, xinetd use files :)
[20:36] <mnemoc_> but yes, that's enough
[20:36] <SerWou> perfect
[20:36] <SerWou> thanks ;)
[20:36] <mnemoc_> yw :)
[20:37] <netrunner> mnemoc_: xinetd uses both. I have a xinetd.conf that lists all services in blocks.
[20:38] <mnemoc_> good to know :) i use ipsvd
[20:41] <SerWou> just a free question
[20:41] <SerWou> anyone test to make a cluster of ftp servers ?
[20:42] <mnemoc_> central auth and shared disk?
[20:42] <mnemoc_> twoftpd is a good choice
[20:43] <mnemoc_> it use 'cvm' interface for authentication plugins
[20:44] <SerWou> i would like to setup pure-ftpd connected to a MySQL database on one PC and plug another server to add Disk Space and Bandwith to the first one but users will see only one ftp server
[20:44] <mnemoc_> wwhat about ipvs?
[20:45] <SerWou> i don't know that
[20:45] <SerWou> man ipvs ? ;)
[20:45] <mnemoc_> linux-vs.org
[20:45] <mnemoc_> ipvs was added reciently to the linux kernel
[20:45] <SerWou> ho yes
[20:45] <SerWou> i know that
[20:46] <SerWou> i think it's the best choice
[20:47] <SerWou> my server is a 2.4.20
[20:47] <SerWou> i bet i have to recompil it
[20:47] <SerWou> the problem is : i don't have physical access to this machin
[20:48] <mnemoc_> take the risk :)
[20:48] <SerWou> i can recompile the kernel, but if i boot on the new one and it's not working, i will have it in the ass ;)
[20:49] <mnemoc_> use the same .config and be carefull on your steps :)
[20:50] <SerWou> hummmmmmm
[20:51] <mnemoc_> i might not have problems updating 2.4
[20:51] <daja77> this damn head tail crap argh
[20:51] <mnemoc_> -n ?
[20:52] <daja77> yes
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[21:25] <mnemoc_> blindcoder: ping
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[21:49] <blindcoder> mnemoc_: pong
[21:50] <daja77> wb blindcoder 
[21:50] <blindcoder> thanks :)
[21:50] <blindcoder> finally back home
[21:50] <blindcoder> lesson learned today: _NEVER_ follow the signs to berlin if you come from Dresden and want to Spandau
[21:50] <blindcoder> you will land in Koepenick which is at the exact opposite end of berlin
[21:51] <daja77> erh ^^
[21:53] Action: blindcoder now lying in his bed and relaxing :)
[21:53] <blindcoder> and finally a stable inet connection again :D
[21:55] Action: daja77 just fixed et install scripts
[21:55] <blindcoder> good boy :)
[22:03] <daja77> but i dunno how to play
[22:05] <blindcoder> it's just a FPS, no?
[22:05] <daja77> multiplayer
[22:05] <blindcoder> hmm
[22:06] <daja77> and no sound atm
[22:06] <blindcoder> baeh
[22:06] <daja77> .
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