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[04:29] <ojh> Question: how do I generate the hashes for the desc files? I tried using md5sum and it gives hex, bit the hashes I see in the existing packages are decimal.
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[07:52] <netrunner> moin
[08:14] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:59] <netrunner> hey, gnome 2.10 is out. who wants to do the update dance? :)
[10:00] Action: blindcoder backs out
[10:03] <[anders-mcafee]> *yawn* I've been running 2.10 for the last couple days.. it's good..
[10:03] <[anders-mcafee]> Ubuntu is quite on the ball ;-)
[10:08] <th> x11/netpbm has the same problem like rene/cinepaint now.
[10:08] <th> tries to link with -ltiff and misses some -lz stuff
[10:08] <th> i can smell a pattern here
[10:10] <netrunner> can it be that libtiff formerly was statically linked to zlib?
[10:10] <th> might be
[10:11] <th> i think i can check that
[10:11] <th> at least ldd to the libtiff.so.3.5.7 does not mention libz
[10:11] <fake> hi!
[10:11] <blindcoder> seems it was
[10:11] <th> yo fake
[10:11] <blindcoder> here ldd doesn't mention it either
[10:11] <blindcoder> moin fake 
[10:11] <fake> hannes is here ;)
[10:12] <th> but how does it work in trunk?
[10:12] <th> does it?
[10:12] <blindcoder> works fine
[10:13] <th> do you have a config.log handy, for e.g. cinepaint?
[10:13] <th> and is there a -lz for that test of libtiff?
[10:13] <blindcoder> not here
[10:14] <blindcoder> not on this machine, at least
[10:14] <netrunner> hm. have some old 2.0beta4 lying around (hell  knows why) where ldd libtiff.so says libz
[10:14] <th> uhhhhhh
[10:15] <th> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           13 Mar  9 15:47 usr/lib/libtiff.3 -> libtiff.3.7.1
[10:15] <th> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       335964 Mar  9 15:47 usr/lib/libtiff.3.7.1
[10:15] <th> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root       357004 Mar  9 15:47 usr/lib/libtiff.a
[10:15] <fake> oops.
[10:15] <fake> shext=so
[10:15] <fake> .so, even
[10:16] <th> +hook_add preconf 3 "libtoolize -f -c"
[10:16] <th> just like in trunk
[10:16] <th> 2.0.3 libtiff has no libz in ldd
[10:17] <th> neither has the "usr/lib/libtiff.3.7.1"
[10:18] <netrunner> yes. my recent crystal hasn't too. the old version that has is a 2.5.7
[10:18] <netrunner> s/2.5/3.5/
[10:18] <th> just like the 2.0-stable HEAD
[10:18] <th> thats what i tried to update
[10:20] <th> is that a libtool problem?
[10:27] <th> -Wl,-soname -Wl,libtiff.3 -o .libs/libtiff.3.7.1
[10:28] <th> anyone has a 5-libtiff.log from trunk for me?
[10:28] <th> blindcoder: or does sonar have?
[10:31] <blindcoder> th: let me look
[10:32] <blindcoder> nope, sorry
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[10:40] <th> netrunner: thanks
[10:44] <netrunner> hm. have to wait until she reads her mail. if you want it fast you can call my home number :)
[10:47] <th> and have a quick chat with your gf?
[10:48] <th> hmmm. 
[10:48] <th> *considering*
[10:48] <th> bavaria... no thanks. i can wait.
[10:58] <netrunner> hm. the log got truncated when I lost my build dir last time. I'll quickly rebuild it.
[11:00] <th> ok thanks
[11:03] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/5-libtiff.log.gz
[11:03] <th> got it thanks
[11:04] <th>  -Wl,-soname -Wl,libtiff.so.3 -o .libs/libtiff.so.3.7.1
[11:04] <th> yea
[11:04] <th> that's the difference
[11:04] <th> the libtool call is different
[11:04] <th> propably related to libtoolize
[11:18] <fake> echo "1" > /proc/sys/kernel/ctrl-alt-del
[11:18] <fake> argh
[11:18] <th> fake: what do you want to do?
[11:18] <fake> th: reboot a stalled machine
[11:18] <th> fake: echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[11:18] <fake> narf
[11:18] <fake> aaah!
[11:18] <fake> that's great
[11:18] <th> it is
[11:18] <th> i had lost all IO some days ago
[11:19] <th> so no reboot no shutdown no nothing! evan no cat
[11:19] <th> but shell-builtin echo
[11:19] <fake> damn!!
[11:19] <fake> no sysrq in the kernel...
[11:19] <th> build a module
[11:19] <th> might be impossible
[11:19] <th> do you have shutdown?
[11:20] <th> shutdown -n mighthelp
[11:20] <th> shutdown -n might help then.
[11:20] <fake>  echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[11:21] <th> no
[11:21] <th> does not help. or does it?
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[11:26] <th> CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEV_PADLOCK nice.
[11:26] <th> that might work on the Nehemiah C3-2
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[12:38] <th> libtiff problem seems resolved. i stopped using libtoolize.
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[12:50] <th> stable-versioning decision made.
[12:51] <th> see ML for this.
[13:00] <blindcoder> sounds fine
[13:00] <blindcoder> but you'll have more work that way
[13:01] <th> no - that's the trick.
[13:01] <th> my work is maintaining. not doing all patches myself.
[13:01] <blindcoder> hm?
[13:01] <th> i can just define the way to go.
[13:01] <th> we have the policy now.
[13:01] <th> most priority will be in HEAD
[13:02] <th> (my work priority)
[13:02] <blindcoder> I see
[13:02] <th> it's obvious: we have to few human resources.
[13:02] <th> so we should define the policy clearly.
[13:03] <th> and missing work is due to lack of HR
[13:03] <th> and it's not correct to say that that decision causes more work.
[13:04] <th> it just defines the focus and puts some order in it.
[13:04] <th> that way we can see precisly where HR lack.
[13:04] <daja77> hr?
[13:04] <th> human resources
[13:04] <daja77> ah d'oh
[13:05] <th> blindcoder: perhaps you can put a note about this in the next newsletter.
[13:05] <th> ..somehow..
[13:06] <daja77> sigh i need a new co and fixdiff orgy again >_<
[13:06] <th> svn on new fsfs backend is incredibly fast compared to before.
[13:06] <daja77> but isdn is as slow as ever
[13:06] <th> daja77: poor ou
[13:06] <th> s,ou,you,
[13:07] <daja77> :p
[13:07] <th> not kidding ;)
[13:07] <daja77> yes fsfs rocks, using it for my local repos
[13:07] <netrunner> th: you said you use hylafax?
[13:08] <th> daja77: i bear with you. my line is just very flaky too
[13:08] <th> netrunner: yes.
[13:08] <netrunner> th: have you ever thought about doing color faxing?
[13:08] <th> netrunner: no.
[13:08] <blindcoder> th: will do
[13:08] <th> blindcoder: great- thanks
[13:08] <netrunner> th: ah. seems impossible :(
[13:08] <th> netrunner: might be.
[13:08] <daja77> th: the svn is not the problem, the many broken patches in submaster are a bit annoying
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[15:38] <daja77> hi mnemoc 
[15:38] <mnemoc> hi daja77 
[15:39] <blindcoder> boy, I'm nearly falling asleep :(
[15:39] <mnemoc> party last night?
[15:39] <blindcoder> no
[15:39] <blindcoder> nothing to do
[15:39] <blindcoder> absolutely
[15:39] <blindcoder> nothing
[15:39] <daja77> blindcoder: code!
[15:40] <mnemoc> yeah!
[15:40] <mnemoc> prepare gnome-2.10 patchset :)
[15:40] <daja77> wuarg
[15:40] <blindcoder> mnemoc: I know better ways to inflict pain upon myself
[15:40] <mnemoc> :)
[15:41] <blindcoder> daja77: I want to go home, play WC:PR
[15:41] <daja77> hehe
[15:41] <blindcoder> daja77: I even consider skipping todays kendo training for that
[15:41] <daja77> *gg*
[15:41] <daja77> <- is evil ^^
[15:41] <daja77> i got blindy addicted
[15:41] <mnemoc> :)
[15:41] <blindcoder> yeah
[15:41] <netrunner> wcpr?
[15:42] <blindcoder> I even ordered a damn spacemouse just for it
[15:42] <blindcoder> netrunner: Wing Commander: Privateer Remake
[15:42] <daja77> a vegastrike mod
[15:42] <daja77> lol
[15:42] <mnemoc> *G*
[15:42] <netrunner> blindcoder: is that free?
[15:42] <daja77> yes it is
[15:43] <blindcoder> free as in go and download it from a site that doesn't look obviously warez-like but still uses data files under the copyright of EA
[15:43] <daja77> oh ic
[15:44] <blindcoder> well, abandonware files, which is still a gray-area
[15:44] <daja77> just used vegastrike without the mod, which looks different but is the same game
[15:44] <netrunner> does linux run fine?
[15:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: mostly
[15:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: you need to create three symlinks for it to work
[15:44] <daja77> just have'nt found the star trek mod
[15:44] <netrunner> ok. that's fine.
[15:44] <blindcoder> daja77: yeah, I'd love to see that
[15:44] <daja77> just found screeshots
[15:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: those are not documented anywhere, though
[15:45] <blindcoder> daja77: where?
[15:45] <daja77> on teh vegastrike page
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[15:45] <netrunner> blindcoder: you know them :)
[15:45] <netrunner> /usr/share/doc/blindy
[15:46] <netrunner> nice speed. 600K/sec
[15:47] <blindcoder> netrunner: hehe, yeah :)
[15:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: bin/setup complains about a library missing, that one is obvious
[15:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: the other two have to be made in ~/.privater100/
[15:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: to the files ${install}/{setup,vegastrike}.config
[15:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: oh, and stay at medium difficulty. the remaining AI files are... missing
[15:49] <netrunner> do I get this right that it is something like privateer? flying around, selling stuff
[15:49] <daja77> yes
[15:50] <netrunner> fine :)
[15:50] <th> screenshots or url please.
[15:50] <daja77> vegastrike.sf.net
[15:50] <th> thx
[15:51] <netrunner> http://priv.solsector.net/screenshots.htm
[15:51] <blindcoder> th: no linux version of vegatrek :(
[15:51] <th> is that multiplayer?
[15:51] <blindcoder> no
[15:52] <th> sad
[15:52] <th> no fun without multiplayer
[15:52] <th> something like x2 with multiplayer would rock
[15:52] <daja77> strange is there no src for that mod
[15:54] <blindcoder> daja77: there's a zip for it
[15:54] <blindcoder> daja77: I guess it's only changed data files so far
[15:54] <daja77> so it shoudl run under linux
[15:54] <blindcoder> daja77: looks quite, dead, too
[15:55] <daja77> ic
[15:56] <blindcoder> oh, no doesn't
[15:56] <blindcoder> last release 22/12/2004
[15:56] <blindcoder> just only in the forum not on the website
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[16:10] <netrunner> hi carmen
[16:11] <karmen-> hi netrunner 
[16:12] <blindcoder> hi karmen- 
[16:12] <karmen-> hello blindcoder  :)
[16:12] <karmen-> how're u all?
[16:12] <blindcoder> sleepy
[16:12] <blindcoder> WOO!
[16:12] <blindcoder> the licenses are here!
[16:12] <karmen-> xDDDDD
[16:12] Action: netrunner is tired. and happy because the clock says the end is near
[16:12] <blindcoder> finally I can do some work after three days!
[16:15] <netrunner> karmen-: how are you?
[16:15] Action: daja77 feeling great atm
[16:16] <karmen-> well... bored xD
[16:16] <netrunner> karmen-: well, try rocklinux :)
[16:17] <karmen-> mmm
[16:39] <fake> #warn german
[16:39] <fake> Real Life = Wirkliches Leben, auch bekannt als "der grosser Raum mit der Decke, die manchmal blau und manchmal schwarz mit kleinen Lichtern" ist
[16:40] <mnemoc> :(
[16:40] <fake> http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9125168/geekg.html
[16:40] <fake> mnemoc: real life, also known as 'the big room with the ceiling that's sometimes blue and sometimes black with little lights'
[16:41] <mnemoc> is that from that page?
[16:42] <mnemoc> .oO( google translated that page quite well )o
[16:43] <fake> mnemoc: it looks like it has initially been translated by google from english
[16:44] <mnemoc> is the german there too bad?
[16:44] <th> yes
[16:44] <th> lousy
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[16:56] <fake> wtf is wrong here?
[16:59] <blindcoder> nothing, why?
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[16:59] <mnemoc> [12:55:11] <fake> wtf is wrong here?
[17:01] <fake> either my server or their server sucks
[17:01] <fake> my client says that the irc.eu.freenode.org closed the connection
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[18:04] <caligula> hi
[18:04] <caligula> I need a soft for respawn daemon
[18:04] <caligula> any suggest?
[18:05] <fake> djb
[18:06] <fake> http://jclement.ca/docs/daemon_tools/daemon_tools/
[18:06] <caligula> work with mysql, per example?
[18:06] <fake> *sigh*
[18:06] <th> wget -nc http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/daemontools-0.76.tar.gz
[18:07] <th> caligula: yes. works with mysql
[18:07] <caligula> ok , thanks
[18:07] <th> tar xfz daemontools-0.76.tar.gz
[18:07] <th> cd admin/daemontools-0.76
[18:07] <th> sed -i 's|^extern int errno;|#include <errno.h>|' src/error.h
[18:07] <th> package/install
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[18:16] <daja77> this is bloat :p
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[20:13] <owl> moin
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[23:56] <ojh> Question: how do I generate the hashes for the desc files? I tried using md5sum and it gives hex, bit the hashes I see in the existing packages are decimal.
[23:57] <tfing> ojh: using ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch
[23:57] <ojh> THX :)
[23:58] <mnemoc> ojh: how is your zero-install-rock going?
[23:59] <ojh> I'm cleaning up the desc files (proper hashaes, etc) for submitting the patch.
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