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[03:41] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [06:07] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8D365.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [06:23] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8C34A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:23] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [08:47] <blindcoder> moin [09:01] <netrunner> moin blindy [09:07] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [10:51] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.45) joined #rocklinux. [10:54] <netrunner> 2.6.11.3 [10:54] <netrunner> has a fix against crashing xorg caused by missing memset ... [11:02] <blindcoder> heh, those micro releases really are quick [11:03] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] <th> just like windows update is quick sometimes ;) [12:41] blindcod1r (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-096-030.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:42] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-082-082-100-016.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [12:45] Action: netrunner doesn't think we should follow the micros, submaster is too slow for this. [12:47] <fake> netrunner: the fixes are important [12:48] <th> netrunner: it's not submaster being too slow. it's the policy that every commit on the devel-tree requires a full refbuild. [12:48] <daja77> which says a lot about the quality of the kernel releases imho [12:49] <daja77> at this state i expect to need at least an hour to keep the local sm up2date, that's why I haven't focused on this task the last days ... [12:53] <fake> daja77: you wouldn't beleieve what is happening here [12:53] <fake> the current reference build seems to be haunted [12:53] <fake> first murphy breaks down unexplainably [12:53] <fake> then my machine, jana, has a cooler failur [12:54] <fake> and that in stage 9 at package 2750 of 2870 or so with no errors [12:54] <daja77> well i don't want to blame someone, i just state the facts :/ [12:55] <fake> and i'm just sad that my poor jana is ill :( [12:55] <daja77> yeah you should treat you women better ;) [12:55] <fake> it happened when i left her at cliffords all alone... [12:55] <daja77> so she betrays you, i see ... [12:56] <fake> i think she missed me sop much she couldn't stand it [12:56] <daja77> hehe [13:02] <netrunner> fake: the fixes they now release as micro would formerly have gotten into the next release (in -rc's). [13:09] <blindcoder> fake: so please tell other people about this! [13:09] <blindcoder> fake: as it is now, when I look at the mailing list I'd say the project is dead [13:09] <blindcoder> or at least without lead [13:11] <fake> blindcoder: go tell that clifford, i'm not responisble for refeence builds! [13:12] <th> blindcoder: you can schedule a voip devmeeting for this issue. [13:13] <fake> i can house a conference [13:13] <th> i can attend [13:13] <th> ;-) [13:13] <fake> sip, of course [13:13] <blindcoder> fake: if you tell me how to set up a sip client I'm all for it [13:13] <th> can i connect to it via plain telefone? [13:13] <th> my current line is not good enough for sip [13:14] <th> well - yes - good enough for sip but not good enough for voip streaming [13:14] <th> it was good enough for teamspeak though. [13:14] <blindcoder> talking of refbuilds [13:14] Action: blindcoder goes to look at his LVP release builds [13:15] <blindcoder> cool [13:15] <blindcoder> 65% done ^^ [13:19] <blindcoder> whoops [13:20] <blindcoder> no ftp client on ceres [14:03] <netrunner> wonderful. got a signed mail from siemens. mutt doesn't understand it :( [14:09] <daja77> oh sip again [14:09] Action: netrunner wants to join :) [14:09] <netrunner> just need to find out how to tell my asterisk to find its way to fake [14:13] Action: netrunner emerging mutt 1.5.9 [14:14] <SMP> 1.5.9? [14:14] <netrunner> development tree. but supports smime. [14:14] <SMP> oh. yesterday [14:20] <netrunner> hm. won't build it. needs too many other stuff. I'll wait until I upgrade my server. [14:21] <netrunner> OpenSSH 4.0 released March 9, 2005. [14:25] <SMP> needs what? [14:26] <tfing> netrunner: you can use https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005031113123429466 if you want as a basis [14:27] <netrunner> SMP: libassuan gpgme libgpg-error pth ... [14:27] <SMP> netrunner: those are optional (unless you want S/MIME ;>) [14:28] <netrunner> SMP: well, that's why I would build the mutt devel :) [14:28] <netrunner> tfing: this patch looks like it would create a big shared file conflict :) [14:29] <tfing> well, i assume you won't build both packages [14:30] <netrunner> tfing: and instead [ -f $root/var/adm/packages/openssl ] please use pkginstalled openssl [14:30] <netrunner> tfing: maybe I would :) [14:30] <tfing> netrunner: there's no + before that line [14:30] <tfing> that means it is part of the base package [14:30] <netrunner> tfing: oh, you're right :) [14:30] <tfing> so you can blame clifford for that :) [14:31] <netrunner> tfing: probably didn't exist back then. but nevertheless I would like to have it possible to install both mutt and mutt-shapshot [14:32] <SMP> oh no ... [14:32] <netrunner> @uni we also have a mutt-devel exactly for those who want to use smime [14:33] <clifford> https://mutt-ng.berlios.de/ ;-) [14:33] <SMP> heh [14:36] <netrunner> nice. [15:02] kasc (kasc@dsl-084-060-098-027.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] <netrunner> stupid update mechanism :( [15:36] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-184-152.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:49] treo (~xfman@Da22e.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:49] <treo> hi [18:12] <netrunner> hah, survived my first fight [18:16] <daja77> hm the tetex-3.0 still has the bug that it doesn't find listings.sty, haven't you fixed that netrunner? [18:17] <netrunner> daja77: fake said it was obsoleted by the update ... [18:17] <daja77> hm shows up here [18:27] <fake> i didn't say anything! [18:28] <netrunner> tetex: usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/listings/listings.sty [18:28] <netrunner> (in my flist of tetex 3.0) [18:28] <netrunner> daja77: do you have this file? [18:29] <netrunner> daja77: maybe you need to run texhash /usr/share/texmf ... [18:33] <netrunner> blindcoder: what does it mean if the "auto" sign is flickering like bad tv reception? [18:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: where? [18:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: in space [18:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: ah, WCPR [18:36] <blindcoder> netrunner: it means that a hostile ship is probably running around just outside the autopilot range [18:36] <blindcoder> if there's a hostile ship in this range, you won't be able to use the a command [18:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: it's not the "Auto" sign itself, but its background or so. [18:37] <blindcoder> ah [18:37] <blindcoder> that means that your systems are damaged [18:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: btw, just killed my first 2 pirates ... medium cannons really hit them :) [18:38] <blindcoder> buy "basic repair" at the next dealer [18:38] <netrunner> ok [18:38] <netrunner> I only tried all single systems and "fix"ed them. but didn't try basic repair... [18:39] <blindcoder> hehe [18:39] <netrunner> what ship do you recommend as a second level? [18:39] <blindcoder> hmm [18:39] <netrunner> still have this tungsten thing. [18:39] <blindcoder> galaxy, I'd say [18:39] <blindcoder> tarsus you mean [18:40] <netrunner> ah yes. [18:40] <blindcoder> the galaxy can hold lots of stuff while still getting good weaponry [18:40] <netrunner> this stupid guy talks he knows I don't have enough money :/ [18:40] <blindcoder> but you really want to buy a Demon when you start taknig on bounty/defend/escort missions [18:41] <netrunner> how much is such a one? [18:41] <blindcoder> hmm [18:42] <blindcoder> including good armory I'd say around 750 grand [18:42] <netrunner> ouch [18:42] <blindcoder> that includes four tachyon cannons with autotargeting [18:42] <blindcoder> as well as perfect radar et al [18:43] <netrunner> blindcoder: another thing. how do I advance in a campaign? [18:43] <netrunner> blindcoder: currently I do almost only cargo and scanning missions... [18:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: the campaign starts once you visit Sandoval [18:44] <netrunner> aha. haven't seen that one yet. [18:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: talk to bartenders to find where he is or ask me if you want to be spoiled [18:45] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, thx. last question: I have somewhere seen a map of star systems? [18:46] <blindcoder> https://www.wcnews.com/maps/sectors/gemini.png [18:50] <daja77> netrunner: won't work since the file is in latex source and not in the dirs that are in the hash [19:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: can I move improvements between ships? (just got offered autotracking, costs 97k, all I have :) [19:02] <blindcoder> no [19:02] <blindcoder> 97? [19:02] <blindcoder> I bought them for 90! [19:02] <blindcoder> where are you right now? [19:02] <netrunner> uhm. [19:02] <netrunner> some mining base in troy [19:02] <blindcoder> go to perry [19:03] <blindcoder> buy it there [19:03] <netrunner> it's the first time I got offered the autotracker :) [19:03] <blindcoder> it helps a lot [19:03] <blindcoder> but you need one for every weapon slot [19:04] <netrunner> eh stupid. have to kick out my tractor :( [19:04] <blindcoder> o_O [19:04] <blindcoder> ehm [19:04] <blindcoder> where have you mounted the tractor? [19:04] <netrunner> second place [19:04] <blindcoder> hmm [19:04] <blindcoder> second place.. that's a missile slot [19:05] <blindcoder> why do you have to replace the tractor then? [19:05] <netrunner> wanted to buy a turret but my ship cannod hold a turret :( [19:05] <blindcoder> the autotracker goes on the weapon slot where it should be used [19:05] <netrunner> blindcoder: oh, I thought you said I need a slot for the tracker [19:05] <netrunner> ah, additionally to the gun? [19:05] <blindcoder> acj [19:05] <blindcoder> ack [19:06] <blindcoder> one for each gun [19:06] <netrunner> contraband is the illegal stuff? [19:06] <blindcoder> yes [19:06] <blindcoder> like brilliance, ultimate, tobacco and slaves [19:06] <netrunner> looks like a really bad place here, 6 cargo missions with contraband :) [19:07] <blindcoder> o_O [19:07] <blindcoder> then you're on a drayman, most probably [19:07] <netrunner> merchant mining base. [19:07] <blindcoder> contraband missions? in Troy? on a mining base? smells fishy [19:08] <blindcoder> how's your reputation? [19:09] <netrunner> the merchant,hunter,militia: 25, confed 40, kilrathi -91, retro -50, pirates -40 [19:09] <blindcoder> hm [19:09] <blindcoder> really strange [19:10] <blindcoder> I usually only got contraband missions on draymen [19:10] <netrunner> ah, base name is hector [19:10] <blindcoder> really strange [19:11] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] SteffenP (~steffen@p549950AB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:13] <SMP> --- /dev/null Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 196900 [19:13] <SMP> +++ b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt 2005-03-01 23:39:27 -08:00 [19:13] <SMP> +What: devfs [19:13] <SMP> +When: July 2005 [19:14] <daja77> O_o [19:14] <blindcoder> was to be expected [19:14] <blindcoder> been on kerneltraffic long ago [19:21] Action: netrunner hates being solo [19:21] <blindcoder> o_O [19:32] <netrunner> damn, that was a fight. [19:35] <netrunner> oh, found a guy named sandoval :) [19:35] <mnemoc_> that's a lastname [19:36] <netrunner> jep, ernesto sandoval [19:36] <mnemoc_> :) [19:38] <blindcoder> sandoval is a loser [19:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: you told me to find him :) [19:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: now I got killed when I left the planet :) [19:44] <mnemoc_> o_O [19:45] <mnemoc_> what are you playing? [19:45] <netrunner> 2 kilrathi :) [19:45] <netrunner> mnemoc_: privateer remake [19:46] <blindcoder> you're enemies with the kats? that's Bad [19:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: they attacked me. [19:46] <blindcoder> they actually helped me with some escort missions :D [19:46] <daja77> hehe [19:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: I am -91 with them :) [19:46] <blindcoder> o_O [19:46] <blindcoder> you must have killed one of them in the past [19:47] <blindcoder> or they wouldn't hate you like that [19:47] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, 3. [19:47] <mnemoc_> .oO( why can't i find a web page about it? )o [19:47] <netrunner> https://priv.solsector.net/ [19:47] <owl> moin [19:47] <blindcoder> netrunner: even worse :P [19:47] <blindcoder> moin moin [19:47] <owl> hi blindcoder [19:48] <mnemoc_> netrunner: thanks :) [19:48] <owl> where will i 'order' a 'polizeiliches fuehrungszeugnis'? [19:48] <netrunner> owl: guess :) [19:49] <owl> netrunner: landratsamt? [19:50] <netrunner> owl: I'd say nearest police station :) [19:51] <owl> netrunner: nah. i know that there i won't get it *g* [19:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: is there a maximum size for equipment besides the space? I can only buy an reactor level 1, but it charges so slow [19:51] <blindcoder> yes [19:51] <blindcoder> some ships aren't made for big equipment [19:52] <netrunner> oh cool, new detroit has plasma guns :) [19:52] <blindcoder> perry has tachyon guns [19:53] <blindcoder> only a little less damage, but a LOT less energy consumption [19:53] <blindcoder> thus better fire rate [19:58] <netrunner> hm. not funny sector. died again :/ [20:07] <netrunner> maybe it's a sign to learn for tomorrow's complexity theory :( [20:10] <daja77> yeh do it ;) [20:41] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:41] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [20:53] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:53] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. 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