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[08:47] <blindcoder> moin
[09:01] <netrunner> moin blindy
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[10:54] <netrunner> 2.6.11.3
[10:54] <netrunner> has a fix against crashing xorg caused by missing memset ... 
[11:02] <blindcoder> heh, those micro releases really are quick
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[11:32] <th> just like windows update is quick sometimes ;)
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[12:45] Action: netrunner doesn't think we should follow the micros, submaster is too slow for this.
[12:47] <fake> netrunner: the fixes are important
[12:48] <th> netrunner: it's not submaster being too slow. it's the policy that every commit on the devel-tree requires a full refbuild.
[12:48] <daja77> which says a lot about the quality of the kernel releases imho 
[12:49] <daja77> at this state i expect to need at least an hour to keep the local sm up2date, that's why I haven't focused on this task the last days ... 
[12:53] <fake> daja77: you wouldn't beleieve what is happening here
[12:53] <fake> the current reference build seems to be haunted
[12:53] <fake> first murphy breaks down unexplainably
[12:53] <fake> then my machine, jana, has a cooler failur
[12:54] <fake> and that in stage 9 at package 2750 of 2870 or so with no errors
[12:54] <daja77> well i don't want to blame someone, i just state the facts :/
[12:55] <fake> and i'm just sad that my poor jana is ill :(
[12:55] <daja77> yeah you should treat you women better ;)
[12:55] <fake> it happened when i left her at cliffords all alone...
[12:55] <daja77> so she betrays you, i see ...
[12:56] <fake> i think she missed me sop much she couldn't stand it
[12:56] <daja77> hehe
[13:02] <netrunner> fake: the fixes they now release as micro would formerly have gotten into the next release (in -rc's).
[13:09] <blindcoder> fake: so please tell other people about this!
[13:09] <blindcoder> fake: as it is now, when I look at the mailing list I'd say the project is dead
[13:09] <blindcoder> or at least without lead
[13:11] <fake> blindcoder: go tell that clifford, i'm not responisble for refeence builds!
[13:12] <th> blindcoder: you can schedule a voip devmeeting for this issue.
[13:13] <fake> i can house a conference
[13:13] <th> i can attend
[13:13] <th> ;-)
[13:13] <fake> sip, of course
[13:13] <blindcoder> fake: if you tell me how to set up a sip client I'm all for it
[13:13] <th> can i connect to it via plain telefone?
[13:13] <th> my current line is not good enough for sip
[13:14] <th> well - yes - good enough for sip but not good enough for voip streaming
[13:14] <th> it was good enough for teamspeak though.
[13:14] <blindcoder> talking of refbuilds
[13:14] Action: blindcoder goes to look at his LVP release builds
[13:15] <blindcoder> cool
[13:15] <blindcoder> 65% done ^^
[13:19] <blindcoder> whoops
[13:20] <blindcoder> no ftp client on ceres
[14:03] <netrunner> wonderful. got a signed mail from siemens. mutt doesn't understand it :(
[14:09] <daja77> oh sip again
[14:09] Action: netrunner wants to join :)
[14:09] <netrunner> just need to find out how to tell my asterisk to find its way to fake
[14:13] Action: netrunner emerging mutt 1.5.9
[14:14] <SMP> 1.5.9?
[14:14] <netrunner> development tree. but supports smime.
[14:14] <SMP> oh. yesterday
[14:20] <netrunner> hm. won't build it. needs too many other stuff. I'll wait until I upgrade my server.
[14:21] <netrunner>  OpenSSH 4.0 released March 9, 2005.
[14:25] <SMP> needs what?
[14:26] <tfing> netrunner: you can use https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005031113123429466 if you want as a basis
[14:27] <netrunner> SMP: libassuan gpgme libgpg-error pth ...
[14:27] <SMP> netrunner: those are optional (unless you want S/MIME ;>)
[14:28] <netrunner> SMP: well, that's why I would build the mutt devel :)
[14:28] <netrunner> tfing: this patch looks like it would create a big shared file conflict :)
[14:29] <tfing> well, i assume you won't build both packages
[14:30] <netrunner> tfing: and instead [ -f $root/var/adm/packages/openssl ]  please use pkginstalled openssl
[14:30] <netrunner> tfing: maybe I would :) 
[14:30] <tfing> netrunner: there's no + before that line
[14:30] <tfing> that means it is part of the base package
[14:30] <netrunner> tfing: oh, you're right :)
[14:30] <tfing> so you can blame clifford for that :)
[14:31] <netrunner> tfing: probably didn't exist back then. but nevertheless I would like to have it possible to install both mutt and mutt-shapshot
[14:32] <SMP> oh no ...
[14:32] <netrunner> @uni we also have a mutt-devel exactly for those who want to use smime
[14:33] <clifford> http://mutt-ng.berlios.de/   ;-)
[14:33] <SMP> heh
[14:36] <netrunner> nice.
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[15:03] <netrunner> stupid update mechanism :(
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[15:49] <treo> hi
[18:12] <netrunner> hah, survived my first fight
[18:16] <daja77> hm the tetex-3.0 still has the bug that it doesn't find listings.sty, haven't you fixed that netrunner? 
[18:17] <netrunner> daja77: fake said it was obsoleted by the update ...
[18:17] <daja77> hm shows up here
[18:27] <fake> i didn't say anything!
[18:28] <netrunner> tetex: usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/listings/listings.sty
[18:28] <netrunner> (in my flist of tetex 3.0)
[18:28] <netrunner> daja77: do you have this file?
[18:29] <netrunner> daja77: maybe you need to run texhash /usr/share/texmf ...
[18:33] <netrunner> blindcoder: what does it mean if the "auto" sign is flickering like bad tv reception?
[18:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: where?
[18:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: in space
[18:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: ah, WCPR
[18:36] <blindcoder> netrunner: it means that a hostile ship is probably running around just outside the autopilot range
[18:36] <blindcoder> if there's a hostile ship in this range, you won't be able to use the a command
[18:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: it's not the "Auto" sign itself, but its background or so.
[18:37] <blindcoder> ah
[18:37] <blindcoder> that means that your systems are damaged
[18:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: btw, just killed my first 2 pirates ... medium cannons really hit them :)
[18:38] <blindcoder> buy "basic repair" at the next dealer
[18:38] <netrunner> ok
[18:38] <netrunner> I only tried all single systems and "fix"ed them. but didn't try basic repair...
[18:39] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:39] <netrunner> what ship do you recommend as a second level?
[18:39] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:39] <netrunner> still have this tungsten thing.
[18:39] <blindcoder> galaxy, I'd say
[18:39] <blindcoder> tarsus you mean
[18:40] <netrunner> ah yes.
[18:40] <blindcoder> the galaxy can hold lots of stuff while still getting good weaponry
[18:40] <netrunner> this stupid guy talks he knows I don't have enough money :/
[18:40] <blindcoder> but you really want to buy a Demon when you start taknig on bounty/defend/escort missions
[18:41] <netrunner> how much is such a one?
[18:41] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:42] <blindcoder> including good armory I'd say around 750 grand
[18:42] <netrunner> ouch
[18:42] <blindcoder> that includes four tachyon cannons with autotargeting
[18:42] <blindcoder> as well as perfect radar et al
[18:43] <netrunner> blindcoder: another thing. how do I advance in a campaign?
[18:43] <netrunner> blindcoder: currently I do almost only cargo and scanning missions...
[18:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: the campaign starts once you visit Sandoval
[18:44] <netrunner> aha. haven't seen that one yet.
[18:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: talk to bartenders to find where he is or ask me if you want to be spoiled
[18:45] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, thx. last question: I have somewhere seen a map of star systems?
[18:46] <blindcoder> http://www.wcnews.com/maps/sectors/gemini.png
[18:50] <daja77> netrunner: won't work since the file is in latex source and not in the dirs that are in the hash
[19:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: can I move improvements between ships? (just got offered autotracking, costs 97k, all I have :)
[19:02] <blindcoder> no
[19:02] <blindcoder> 97?
[19:02] <blindcoder> I bought them for 90!
[19:02] <blindcoder> where are you right now?
[19:02] <netrunner> uhm. 
[19:02] <netrunner> some mining base in troy
[19:02] <blindcoder> go to perry
[19:03] <blindcoder> buy it there
[19:03] <netrunner> it's the first time I got offered the autotracker :)
[19:03] <blindcoder> it helps a lot
[19:03] <blindcoder> but you need one for every weapon slot
[19:04] <netrunner> eh stupid. have to kick out my tractor :(
[19:04] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:04] <blindcoder> ehm
[19:04] <blindcoder> where have you mounted the tractor?
[19:04] <netrunner> second place
[19:04] <blindcoder> hmm
[19:04] <blindcoder> second place.. that's a missile slot
[19:05] <blindcoder> why do you have to replace the tractor then?
[19:05] <netrunner> wanted to buy a turret but my ship cannod hold a turret :(
[19:05] <blindcoder> the autotracker goes on the weapon slot where it should be used
[19:05] <netrunner> blindcoder: oh, I thought you said I need a slot for the tracker
[19:05] <netrunner> ah, additionally to the gun?
[19:05] <blindcoder> acj
[19:05] <blindcoder> ack
[19:06] <blindcoder> one for each gun
[19:06] <netrunner> contraband is the illegal stuff?
[19:06] <blindcoder> yes
[19:06] <blindcoder> like brilliance, ultimate, tobacco and slaves
[19:06] <netrunner> looks like a really bad place here, 6 cargo missions with contraband :)
[19:07] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:07] <blindcoder> then you're on a drayman, most probably
[19:07] <netrunner> merchant mining base.
[19:07] <blindcoder> contraband missions? in Troy? on a mining base? smells fishy
[19:08] <blindcoder> how's your reputation?
[19:09] <netrunner> the merchant,hunter,militia: 25, confed 40, kilrathi -91, retro -50, pirates -40
[19:09] <blindcoder> hm
[19:09] <blindcoder> really strange
[19:10] <blindcoder> I usually only got contraband missions on draymen
[19:10] <netrunner> ah, base name is hector
[19:10] <blindcoder> really strange
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[19:13] <SMP> +++ b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt        2005-03-01 23:39:27 -08:00
[19:13] <SMP> +What:  devfs
[19:13] <SMP> +When:  July 2005
[19:14] <daja77> O_o
[19:14] <blindcoder> was to be expected
[19:14] <blindcoder> been on kerneltraffic long ago
[19:21] Action: netrunner hates being solo
[19:21] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:32] <netrunner> damn, that was a fight.
[19:35] <netrunner> oh, found a guy named sandoval :)
[19:35] <mnemoc_> that's a lastname
[19:36] <netrunner> jep, ernesto sandoval
[19:36] <mnemoc_> :)
[19:38] <blindcoder> sandoval is a loser
[19:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: you told me to find him :)
[19:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: now I got killed when I left the planet :)
[19:44] <mnemoc_> o_O
[19:45] <mnemoc_> what are you playing?
[19:45] <netrunner> 2 kilrathi :)
[19:45] <netrunner> mnemoc_: privateer remake
[19:46] <blindcoder> you're enemies with the kats? that's Bad
[19:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: they attacked me.
[19:46] <blindcoder> they actually helped me with some escort missions :D
[19:46] <daja77> hehe
[19:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: I am -91 with them :)
[19:46] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:46] <blindcoder> you must have killed one of them in the past
[19:47] <blindcoder> or they wouldn't hate you like that
[19:47] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, 3.
[19:47] <mnemoc_> .oO( why can't i find a web page about it? )o
[19:47] <netrunner> http://priv.solsector.net/
[19:47] <owl> moin
[19:47] <blindcoder> netrunner: even worse :P
[19:47] <blindcoder> moin moin
[19:47] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[19:48] <mnemoc_> netrunner: thanks :)
[19:48] <owl> where will i 'order' a 'polizeiliches fuehrungszeugnis'?
[19:48] <netrunner> owl: guess :)
[19:49] <owl> netrunner: landratsamt?
[19:50] <netrunner> owl: I'd say nearest police station :)
[19:51] <owl> netrunner: nah. i know that there i won't get it *g*
[19:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: is there a maximum size for equipment besides the space? I can only buy an reactor level 1, but it charges so slow 
[19:51] <blindcoder> yes
[19:51] <blindcoder> some ships aren't made for big equipment
[19:52] <netrunner> oh cool, new detroit has plasma guns :)
[19:52] <blindcoder> perry has tachyon guns
[19:53] <blindcoder> only a little less damage, but a LOT less energy consumption
[19:53] <blindcoder> thus better fire rate
[19:58] <netrunner> hm. not funny sector. died again :/
[20:07] <netrunner> maybe it's a sign to learn for tomorrow's complexity theory :(
[20:10] <daja77> yeh do it ;)
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[21:27] <daja77> hm fake working on ircsex
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