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[02:58] <hannes__> happy 1111111111
[02:59] <mnemoc> o_O
[02:59] <hannes__> www.heise.de
[02:59] <hannes__> ganz oben
[02:59] <hannes__> at the top
[03:00] <hannes__> the unix-time passed 1111111111
[03:00] <hannes__> sry, for german, just where in another irc-channel
[03:00] <mnemoc> :)
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[08:45] <blindcoder> moin
[08:51] <netrunner> moin, 2
[08:51] <netrunner> could it be that the missions get harder and harder?
[08:53] <blindcoder> sure
[08:53] <blindcoder> and bring more profit
[09:01] <netrunner> now that I disabled asteroids in rikel and finished them, I am at constantinopel and being attacked by 4 confeds :(
[09:01] <blindcoder> o_O
[09:01] <netrunner> should really do some other jobs before continuing with that.
[09:01] <blindcoder> why did you disable asteroids?
[09:02] <netrunner> blindcoder: because in rikel there are 4 belts of them. I can handle flying through, but in fight my framerate drops to 5 fps or so.
[09:02] <blindcoder> oh
[09:02] <blindcoder> I usually have 150+ fps (if the counter in the upper left corner is at all reliable
[09:03] <netrunner> oh, havent seen a counter. just guessed.
[09:03] Action: netrunner -> breakfast
[09:03] <blindcoder> press F1 in the cockpit
[09:03] <blindcoder> then you see it
[10:22] <blindcoder> WOOHOOOOO
[10:22] <blindcoder> dynamic linking reduces the size of LVP by 4MB :D
[10:25] <daja77> ^^
[10:25] <blindcoder> 5MB even
[10:25] <blindcoder> maybe more with further cleanups
[10:26] <blindcoder> 6MB :D
[10:26] <blindcoder> livesystem now 19MB in size
[10:26] <blindcoder> still some work to do about that, but it works :)
[10:29] <blindcoder> too bad that upx can't (yet) compress libraries
[10:39] <blindcoder> okay, 19MB it is
[10:39] <blindcoder> and the initrd is 4.6 MB
[10:51] <fake> hu
[10:51] <fake> my whole body hurts...
[10:52] <daja77> hi fake, what happened
[10:52] <blindcoder> he had to run after the bus :D
[10:54] <fake> no bus driving for me anymore ;)
[10:55] <daja77> vw bus?
[10:55] <fake> i went sledging with the company and a customer yesterday
[10:55] Action: netrunner hates to puzzle study schedule together .(
[10:56] <fake> we rode down that killer slope two times, and now every damn muscle i have seems to punish me
[10:56] <daja77> sport kills ^^
[10:57] <blindcoder> mass sport mass kills
[10:57] <fake> sport scales ;)
[11:03] <fake> hm, kde downloads almos finished
[11:03] <fake> finally
[11:05] <blindcoder> fake: did you think of the sonar data?
[11:06] <fake> blindcoder: had no time yesterday
[11:06] <blindcoder> :(
[11:08] <daja77> i have the downloads ...
[11:09] <daja77> fake: di you grab that kdepim patch too?
[11:09] <daja77> +d
[11:09] <fake> daja77: not yet
[11:09] <fake> daja77: which patch?
[11:09] <netrunner> this is hell. 18SWS not inclusive exercises :(
[11:10] <daja77> found one in the kde doenload dir, mom
[11:12] <blindcoder> netrunner: 18what?
[11:13] <netrunner> semesterwochenstunden (semester week hours or so)
[11:13] <blindcoder> ah
[11:13] <netrunner> hours per week spent in lectures.
[11:15] <daja77> ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/X11/kde/stable/3.4/src/kdepim-fix-imap-resource-type.diff
[11:15] <daja77> or pick another mirror
[11:16] <fake> aye
[11:17] <fake> thanks
[11:17] <daja77> np
[11:18] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:18] <blindcoder> is there any reason why libgcc_s.so.1 is 644 instead of 755?
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[11:43] <fake> kde 3.4 test build will run over the weekend
[11:44] <fake> along with some other patches from sm
[11:44] <owl> moin
[11:44] <fake> hi owl
[11:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: do libs need to be 755? aren't they just read?
[11:45] <owl> hi fake 
[11:45] <fake> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 should be executeable
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[12:01] <blindcoder> netrunner: ldd complains if it is not
[12:01] <netrunner> aha. learned sth :)
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[12:23] <blindcoder> GRAH
[12:23] <blindcoder> after added the "missed" xfree modules the livesystem for lvp grew to 45MB :/
[12:27] <blindcoder> daja77: guess I can create something like what you wanted but it sure won't become the standard for LVP unless I find some way to decrease the size by at least 20MB
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[13:31] <fake> blindcoder: you do know kdrive, i assume?
[13:32] <blindcoder> fake: nope, not at all
[13:33] <fake> blindcoder: it's an X server with all options compiled in and configured compile-time, very sexy
[13:33] <fake> part of xorg/xfree
[13:33] <fake> a complete X server in 4MB isn't uncommon
[13:34] <blindcoder> well, I need it configured runtime
[13:34] <blindcoder> since the hardware it will run on isn't defined compiletime
[13:37] <fake> don't you just use vesa modes?
[13:37] <blindcoder> no
[13:38] <fake> oh
[13:38] <blindcoder> X -configure
[13:38] <fake> i c
[13:48] <owl> .oO( works visual studio.net (2003) with wine?)
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[14:22] <netrunner> privet DLCool :)
[14:23] <DLCool> Hi, from Russia ? :)
[14:23] <netrunner> DLCool: no, but I am intensively learning russian :)
[14:23] <netrunner> DLCool: I'll go to St.Petersburg in 2 weeks :)
[14:24] <DLCool> sorry for 2 minutes :(
[14:27] <[anders-mcafee]> ?@825B DLCool 
[14:28] Action: [anders-mcafee] wants to learn russian as well.. need to find a language course I reckon
[14:28] <netrunner> [anders]: hey, please stay at latin charset :)
[14:28] Action: netrunner 's terminal freaking
[14:28] <[anders-mcafee]> netrunner: use utf8 d00d :)
[14:29] <netrunner> [anders]: I tried. my mutt always added a space after extraordinary chars. was weird ...
[14:29] <netrunner> [anders]: does irssi support utf-8?
[14:29] <[anders-mcafee]> netrunner: strange.. I could use it okay in mutt iirc.
[14:29] <[anders-mcafee]> netrunner: depends what your terminal does..
[14:29] <[anders-mcafee]> I think I have had it displaying utf8 on the console before now.
[14:30] <netrunner> hm. maybe it was a problem with my login over ssh/screen or so.
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[14:33] <DLCool4242> Hi, netrunner, again :)
[14:34] <netrunner> DLCool: hey .)
[14:35] <DLCool4242> I leave in St.Peterbur. Wellcome :)
[14:36] <netrunner> DLCool: hey bravo :)
[14:36] <netrunner> DLCool: I only come for a seminar 10 days, but I plan to study the winter semester there .)
[14:36] <netrunner> (which is why I am learning russian :)
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[14:38] <DLCool> What seminar ?
[14:40] <DLCool> (sorry, my English is very poor)
[14:40] <netrunner> JASS05. Joint advanced student seminar.
[14:40] <netrunner> DLCool: no problem, my russian is worse :)
[14:40] <netrunner> I hold a talk about the elgamal cryptosystem.
[14:41] <DLCool> wow !
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[14:52] <treo> hi
[14:52] <netrunner> hi treo
[15:54] <blindcoder> I never had any luck with utf8
[15:54] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ LANG=de_DE.utf8 xterm
[15:54] <blindcoder> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[15:55] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: try "LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 uxterm" instead
[15:56] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:56] <blindcoder> just a moment
[15:56] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:57] <blindcoder> better
[15:57] <blindcoder> but LANG still points to C
[15:57] <[anders-mcafee]> ;-)
[15:57] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: that is probably set in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc then
[15:57] Action: blindcoder goes looknig
[15:58] <blindcoder> ah
[15:58] <blindcoder> is there something like C.UTF-8?
[15:59] <[anders-mcafee]> no, don't think so.. C and POSIX is the standard 7bit stuff iirc
[15:59] <[anders-mcafee]> I may be wrong though
[16:02] <blindcoder> hm
[16:03] <blindcoder> I'd hate to suddenly get strange german error messages
[16:03] Action: netrunner liked mutt crying "Obacht!"
[16:04] <blindcoder> o_O
[16:05] <blindcoder> do me have jsattach?
[16:07] <blindcoder> apparently not
[16:11] <blindcoder> ah, there it is
[16:12] <blindcoder> hmm
[16:12] <blindcoder> de_DE.UTF-8 doesn't show german  anymore
[16:12] <blindcoder> at least if someone else types them :)
[16:13] <owl> waaaah. wtf is blindcoder doing?
[16:16] <blindcoder> owl: playing with utf8 :)
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[16:17] <owl> blindcoder: *kick*
[16:17] <blindcoder> owl: *rkick*
[16:17] <owl> hrrrrrrrrrrrrrg
[16:18] Action: blindcoder hies
[16:19] <[anders-mcafee]> rk.. wbble!
[16:19] <owl> hrmpf. off. 
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[16:19] <[anders-mcafee]> owl: yer sooo cute when yer angry.. ;-D
[16:21] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[16:28] Action: [anders-mcafee] thinks that owl is ignoring him at the moment.. Or is she simply speechless for a change
[16:32] <blindcoder> she loft
[16:32] Action: [anders-mcafee] settles for the speechless thing..
[16:40] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: if I am winding her up, I can't take into account if she stops reading.. ;-)
[16:50] <daja77> hi anders
[16:53] <[anders-mcafee]> lo daja77 
[16:53] Action: [anders-mcafee] is off home in a few minutes
[16:55] <blindcoder> hell, has joystick support in linux ceased with 2.6?
[16:56] <blindcoder> I can only find stuff for 2.4 *ARGH*
[16:56] <mnemoc> isn't it inside the kernel?
[16:56] <daja77> afaik yes
[16:56] <mnemoc> i thought the package is only needed for the tools
[16:57] <blindcoder> the magellan driver doesn't seem to register what it should :(
[16:57] <blindcoder> or I'm just too stupid
[17:01] <blindcoder> ah, here is something
[17:01] <blindcoder> now I have to find inputattach
[17:02] <mnemoc> :)
[17:04] <blindcoder> doesn't compile
[17:04] <blindcoder> I'm going crazy!
[17:07] <blindcoder> ah, the debian version works
[17:11] <blindcoder> well
[17:11] <blindcoder> not really
[17:12] <mnemoc> debian :)
[17:12] <blindcoder> actually...
[17:12] <blindcoder> it does
[17:12] <blindcoder> it just has to be backgrounded
[17:12] <mnemoc> :p
[17:14] <blindcoder> Now I just have to teach vegastrike/privateer to use it
[17:15] <mnemoc> *g*
[17:16] <blindcoder> okay, it's working
[17:16] <blindcoder> now the config *urgs*
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[17:38] <DLCool> By All
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[17:50] <blindcoder> hmm
[17:50] <blindcoder> calibration is a problem
[17:53] <blindcoder> seems I need to patch ioctl responses into the kernel driver for calibration :(
[17:53] <blindcoder> probably the whole calibration stuff
[17:54] <blindcoder> hmm
[17:54] <blindcoder> strange
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[18:39] <markuman> hello. i want now to try install rock linux. but one question before. how is the lan configure? i am behind a router (everytime online) can i use the internet after installing rock linux or have i configure it?
[18:39] <blindcoder> is there a dhcp server on the router?
[18:41] <markuman> hm....it's not a linux router. it's such a little box like a HUB. but there is a LAN - DHCP Server option
[18:41] <blindcoder> well, if you don't really need it then there's no big need to configure it
[18:41] <blindcoder> you can use stone to create a network configuration
[18:42] <markuman> ok. i'll see it. thx
[18:42] <blindcoder> but I'd advise to edit /etc/network/config manually, since the rocknet frontend in stone isn't that great atm
[18:42] <blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/rockdoc/NetworkConfiguration
[18:42] <blindcoder> this tells you how to do it
[18:42] <markuman> ok thx
[18:43] <blindcoder> you're welcome
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[19:20] <treo> bye
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[20:48] <markuman> hello. i have now i few problems after installing rocklinux
[20:49] <owl> hi markuman 
[20:49] <blindcoder> markuman: just ask
[20:50] <markuman> startx don' t work. useradd don' t realy work. the pwd for the user will not except. than i have edit the grub bootloader for booting in my other distribution (debian) but there is now an noapic (or something like that) error. now i have booting a live cd (kanottix bug hunter 9)
[20:51] <markuman> is it posible to mount the ext3 partition for copy the xorg config from my debian to the rocklinux installation?
[20:51] <blindcoder> what ROCK have you installed?
[20:52] <markuman> from "fake" (unofficial) crystal x86 rev.5370
[20:52] <blindcoder> hmm
[20:52] <blindcoder> did you run the X configuration from stone?
[20:52] <markuman> yes
[20:52] <blindcoder> but mounting and copying the file should work equally well
[20:52] <blindcoder> I just wonder why it would not work then
[20:53] <blindcoder> for useradd you have to use "useradd -m user" for the home directory to be created.
[20:53] <blindcoder> that's the same on every distribution I've seen so far
[20:54] <markuman> hm. but i don't know how to mount both ext3 partitions with kanotix and copy the xorg config
[20:54] <blindcoder> I don't know kanotix, but usually you'de create two directories as mountpoints, mount both partitions on them and then do a simple cp
[21:03] <markuman> ok. i have mounted both....but damn. now i see. debain is still using xfree but rock is using xorg
[21:03] <markuman> :-/
[21:04] <markuman> can someone send me his xorg config? and i can compare it
[21:05] <owl> xorg-files from others? what for?
[21:06] <blindcoder> I'm still on an ancient ROCK myself using XFree
[21:07] <blindcoder> still, they are mostly compatible
[21:07] <blindcoder> you might want to copy the XF86Config over and compar it to the autogenerated xorg.conf
[21:08] <markuman> hm...i understand it right? copy the XF86Config from debian into the xorg.conf?
[21:09] <blindcoder> no
[21:09] <blindcoder> next to it
[21:09] <blindcoder> and then look through them to see where it might choke
[21:09] <blindcoder> since the files are mostly - but not exactly - compatible
[21:10] <markuman> ? compare it?
[21:11] <blindcoder> yes
[21:11] <daja77> arg
[21:11] <blindcoder> use a text editor on both files and go through them
[21:11] <blindcoder> daja77: ?
[21:13] Action: daja77 'd be happy if netrunner would send incremental patches
[21:21] <markuman> i' ll try now
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[21:40] <markuman> hi. xorg is running now successful
[21:41] <markuman> but the network isn't working. someone has give me a link here. where was it?
[21:43] <markuman> i have found thx
[21:45] <markuman> in the documentation stands /etc/network/config, but in my /etc/network folder is no config file...
[21:45] <markuman> ? or should i creat one?
[21:48] <netrunner> create one :)
[21:48] <netrunner> you could also run "stone" and do the network config, but that tool isn't very clever :)
[21:52] <markuman> ok. i try to make by hand....
[21:53] <markuman> one more question....is there any file where i can add users? or is the only way to add users with "usersadd"?
[21:53] <daja77> you could use kuser als well
[21:54] <netrunner> markuman: I usually use "vi /etc/passwd"
[21:54] <markuman> ok, i will try now.....see you. thx
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[22:02] <netrunner> could somebody please commit the kde patch so I don't have to do it by hand?
[22:03] <daja77> i could ...
[22:04] <netrunner> that would be nice, because I have a change to kdepim that I would like to test against the new kde ...
[22:05] <daja77> ok but be aware that I have not tested a build
[22:05] <netrunner> no problem. you can write that as note so other people also see it :)
[22:05] <daja77> k.
[22:08] <daja77> dicing cksums ...
[22:09] <netrunner> no hurry :)
[22:12] <daja77> done
[22:14] <netrunner> hm. all hooks fail.
[22:15] <netrunner> damn, I should probably sync before.
[22:15] <daja77> yes ...
[22:15] <daja77> 21:13  * daja77 'd be happy if netrunner would send incremental patches
[22:15] <daja77> ...
[22:15] <daja77> ^^
[22:19] <netrunner> oh, am I really so outdated?
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[22:20] <daja77> yes, yes you are
[22:20] <markuman> hi....now internet work on rocklinux jippi!
[22:20] <daja77> congrats
[22:20] <netrunner> this is only because sync always blocks if I have changes, and sometimes I have changes that are not ready to commit like the kdepim thing ...
[22:21] <markuman> but i have ever problems to add user. what is with login-shell in kuser?
[22:21] Action: netrunner already wondered why fake produced fixdiffs for all his latest patches :)
[22:21] <daja77> have you done a new co, after the svn clash?
[22:22] <netrunner> daja77: didn't you say to me some days ago it could work?
[22:22] <daja77> did I? dunno
[22:22] <netrunner> so should I?
[22:23] <daja77> i could be better
[22:24] Action: netrunner just noticed that he blocked svn in his firewall. must have been some time since the last checkout :)
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[22:26] <th> did you ever notice that mutt is always build without pop3 support on rock?
[22:28] <daja77> never used mutt
[22:28] <th> daja77: you are kidding?
[22:28] <daja77> no
[22:28] <th> wow
[22:28] <daja77> i tried but didn't like it 
[22:30] <netrunner> th: mutt pop3 support sucks.
[22:30] <th> netrunner: see my last patch to sm
[22:30] <th> strange. no mails arrived yet
[22:30] <th> and rsync repo is not updated
[22:30] <th> there is something broken
[22:30] <netrunner> anybody ever fetched a video from a digicam via firewire? what software should I use?
[22:30] <netrunner> svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/submaster/trunk': could not connect to server (http://www.rocklinux.net
[22:31] Action: netrunner was cursing on his firewall ...
[22:31] <th> well i could just commit to stable
[22:31] <th> it's sort of working
[22:31] <daja77> netrunner: try digikam
[22:31] <th> but no commit mails and no rsync-action
[22:32] <daja77> netrunner: sure that your url is ok? 
[22:32] <netrunner> URL: http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/submaster/trunk
[22:32] <th> works
[22:32] <netrunner> (tried to update submaster first)
[22:32] <daja77> s/submaster/rock-linux
[22:32] <th> uhhh
[22:33] <th> yea
[22:33] <th> but works though
[22:33] <th> ;>
[22:33] <daja77> ^^
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[22:33] <netrunner> markuman: internet still flaky? :)
[22:33] Action: netrunner just got commit mails
[22:33] <th> ahh yes cool
[22:34] <th> was a higher delay than usual
[22:34] <netrunner> maybe clif uses the server to rip dvds :)
[22:34] <markuman> yeah! now ROCKLINUX works great :-D
[22:34] <th> propably
[22:35] <th> Command TOP is not supported by server.
[22:36] <th> what's that?
[22:36] <th> strange pop-support in mutt.
[22:36] <netrunner> th: you didn't believe me :)
[22:36] <th> netrunner: i'm just kidding. it's the servers fault of course ;)
[22:36] <netrunner> iirc it can only handle one account.
[22:36] <th> bullshit
[22:37] <th> ;>
[22:37] <th> you can reset your "pop_*" variables as often as you want
[22:38] <netrunner> so it is only me who cannot checkout?
[22:38] <th> netrunner: i can do checkouts.
[22:39] <netrunner> aha. proxy settings were wrong.
[22:40] Action: netrunner should stop tightening his fw
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[22:48] <tfing> hi
[22:49] <daja77> hi tfing 
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[22:52] <netrunner> daja77: that digikam looks like photo software ...
[22:52] <daja77> for accessing digicams ...
[22:52] <tfing> btw, just wanted to let you know that i am on a job in friedrichshafen (during weekdays)
[22:53] <netrunner> daja77: video
[22:53] <daja77> oh video cameras?
[22:53] <daja77> hm
[22:53] <daja77> tfing: near the swiss border?
[22:54] <tfing> daja77: yep
[22:54] <daja77> ic :)
[22:56] <markuman> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-xmms.out -> 9-xmms.err
[22:56] <markuman> == 03/18/05 22:53:20 =[9]=> Aborted building package xmms.
[22:56] <markuman> where i can found the folder the watch out the error file?
[22:57] <daja77> /var/adm/logs
[22:57] <tfing> markuman: are you building a target or emerging on the current system ?
[22:58] <markuman> tfing, sry.  i?m using rock linux since today. i?m a total noob...i? ve done: rocket build xmms
[22:59] <daja77> oh there is a new option for crystal
[23:04] <tfing> markuman: i suggesting looking at /var/adm/logs/9-xmms.err then
[23:07] <markuman> i noticed now, i have no sound :-_/
[23:07] Action: netrunner building kino.
[23:08] <owl> kino?
[23:12] <netrunner> owl: big room with video screen and many comfortable seats. popcorn is also served.
[23:13] <markuman> yeah! sound works now too .....fantastic ;-)
[23:13] <netrunner> http://kino.schirmacher.de/
[23:13] <daja77> n8
[23:15] <netrunner> daja77: digikam installs no binaries.
[23:15] <netrunner> daja77: but n8 :)
[23:23] Action: netrunner wildering in blindcoders repository
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