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[08:32] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:37] <blindcoder> finally mutt does what I want it to do :P
[09:43] <netrunner> which is?
[09:44] <blindcoder> encrypt-mail-to-self
[09:44] <blindcoder> but use the company key when sending to coworkers and private key otherwise
[09:44] <netrunner> [X] publish config
[09:44] <blindcoder> oh, and switch the sign_as automatically, too
[09:44] <blindcoder> :D
[09:44] <blindcoder> just a moment
[09:45] <blindcoder> actually, it's just six lines
[09:51] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: that is an option you can set in .gnupg/options
[10:07] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: yes, but I manage two different mailaccounts with one mutt instance
[10:08] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: and I'd like mutt to switch between them automatically
[10:08] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: one PGP key, two mail addresses.. that's how I did it before.
[10:09] <[anders-mcafee]> actually, I had three mail addresses in one key. :)
[10:09] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: two mailaddresses, two keys, both renewed yearly, both signed by one master key
[10:09] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: you always have to do things the awkward way, don't you.. ;-)
[10:09] Action: blindcoder nods
[10:10] <blindcoder> hey, everyone can go the easy way :D
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[10:44] <fake> hm
[10:45] <daja77> hi fake
[10:48] <fake> hi daja77
[10:49] <fake> kde update didn't work out yet because of some other package placing files where it shouldn't... grmbl.
[10:49] <daja77> did kdeadmin break at yours too?
[10:50] <fake> no, kdelibs wanted to create kde3/share/config as a directory, but some dork already created it as a text file
[10:50] <blindcoder> fake: sonar data? *snif*
[10:50] <fake> blindcoder: :(
[10:50] <fake> blindcoder: i'm writing it on my hand now
[10:50] <th> use a permanent marker!
[10:51] <th> or go to a tattoo shop for it
[10:51] <fake> hm...
[10:51] <blindcoder> heh
[10:51] Action: blindcoder back to work
[10:51] <daja77> fake: had sth like that too but it worked when I restarted the whole build ...
[10:52] <fake> i removed the file and started again
[10:52] <fake> i now have the whole day to sit next to the build
[10:52] <daja77> i had to restart anyway
[10:53] <daja77> have only kdepim and kdeadmin failing, and kdepim is rebuilding after i fixed that crappy patch
[10:53] Action: netrunner only noticed that the kdepim patch didn't apply
[10:53] <daja77> netrunner: no of course not, because someone needs to teach them how to create patches ...
[10:54] <fake> daja77: i already did that, too
[10:54] <daja77> you'd have to cd to kressources/kolab sth to make it apply
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[14:03] <daja77> hm kdepim works niw too
[14:11] <daja77> ldapsamba.o passwordpolicy.o kuserprefs.o -lkdeui -lcrypt -lshadow  -lkabc
[14:11] <daja77> g++-34: /usr/lib/libshadow.so: No such file or directory
[14:11] <daja77> @_@
[14:20] <fake> daja77: you do know i'm working on the kde update?
[14:20] <fake> daja77: i am doing it in a full refbuild
[14:20] <fake> daja77: did you stumble over the kdebase sasl2 thing?
[14:21] <daja77> no
[14:21] <daja77> fake: yes I do know, it is not to create a patch, I just want this crystal to be without errors, that's all
[14:21] <fake> daja77: okay
[14:22] <daja77> and kdeadmin is the last piece that's missing, no other errors
[14:22] <fake> build looks fine here, too
[14:23] <daja77> no i dea why they are looking in /usr/lib for that ...
[14:23] <fake> --with-pam=/ ?
[14:23] <fake> $root, for that matter
[14:25] <daja77> i added /lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH atm
[14:25] <fake>  /lib is always in the ld library path...
[14:26] <daja77> but the linker does not find that lib ..
[14:27] <fake> the linker is trying to link it in from /usr/lib/libshadow.so, seems to be hardcoded
[14:27] <fake> i'll see when i'm at kdeadmin
[14:28] <daja77> i checked the configure options, you can just deactivate shadow support there
[14:29] <daja77> it is just -lshadow, doesn't look like hardcoded 
[14:30] <fake> daja77: is there a .la file or so in /usr/lib/ named libshadow.la or so?
[14:32] <daja77> no
[14:32] <daja77> kde-3.conf overwrites LD_LIBRARY_PATH
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[14:39] <fake> ah-huh
[14:40] <daja77> I appended /lib for now and see if that works
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[14:48] <owl> moin
[15:18] <daja77> aaargh
[15:18] <owl> O_o daja77 ?
[15:19] <daja77> fake: ldconfig -p shows an entry /usr/lib/libshadow.so but it is really located in /lib, there is sth messed up which is not kde related 
[15:19] <fake> daja77: i c
[15:19] <fake> daja77: i will take a look
[15:20] <fake> koffice just built
[15:20] <daja77> oh no it is /lib, my eyes *sigh*
[15:20] <daja77> my instinct tends to blame libtool
[15:23] <blindcoder> If in doubt, blame libtool :)
[15:23] <fake> blame canada!
[15:23] <blindcoder> why canada?
[15:25] <fake> because .... well, because!
[15:25] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:25] <blindcoder> no, I don't think we can do that
[15:26] <fake> but... they did unliesh brian adams to the world!
[15:26] <blindcoder> I think he's got a few good songs
[15:26] <fake> ... haven't you seen south park - the movie?
[15:27] <fake> there's a song called 'blame canada' init
[15:27] <blindcoder> I'd rather drop dead
[15:27] <fake> as you wish! *pow*
[15:28] <blindcoder> I'm still standing
[15:28] <daja77> yeah blame canada, hat movie is cool
[15:29] Action: daja77 trying a ptach to configure, its seems that libtool ignores the LD stuff completely
[15:35] <fake> daja77: -L ?
[15:36] <daja77> yep
[15:36] <fake> daja77: did you try to append -L/lib to $LDFLAGS ?
[15:37] <daja77> no I changed the shadow_switch in configure fro -lshadow to -L/lib -lshadow
[15:45] <daja77> no effect, strange
[15:53] <daja77> puh finally fixed
[15:53] <daja77> fake: just add --with-extra-libs=/lib to confopt 
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[16:21] <netrunner> re
[16:21] <daja77> wb
[16:21] <owl> wb ne	
[16:21] <netrunner> stupid power-outage
[16:21] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:22] <blindcoder> wrong power supplier :D
[16:22] <netrunner> anybody having a spare usv? :)
[16:22] Action: netrunner used the chance to start irssi with LANG=de_DE.utf8, but no idea if it helped.
[16:22] <netrunner> 
[16:23] <netrunner> hm ... if I type umlauts, weird characters appear. there's something wrong.
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[16:23] <blindcoder> netrunner de_DE.UTF-8
[16:23] <blindcoder> ...
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[16:26] <netrunner> so, better trying utf8 somewhere else ;)
[16:27] <blindcoder> netrunner: you also need to start the xterm with that LANG
[16:27] <blindcoder> best set it in /etc/profile.d/locale and restart
[16:28] <blindcoder> netrunner: though I advise using en_US.UTF-8 to not get strange german translations of messages
[16:30] Action: netrunner only wonders that no mail arrived the last 4h, but maybe they're all in outqueues womewhere
[16:30] <blindcoder> probably
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[16:34] <treo> hi
[16:34] <blindcoder> hi
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[16:59] <fake> hi hannes_ !
[17:01] <daja77> .oO (now that the hppa crossbuild fails at 1-glibc i can build the bootdisk for crystal as well)
[17:12] <daja77> hehe found about 20 patches missing for glibc to get that working ;)
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[17:21] <DLCool> Hi All
[17:23] <netrunner> hi DLCool :)
[17:27] <fake> hm
[17:28] <fake> i wrote an email to my bank account manager, asking her out, but she didn't reply...
[17:28] Action: fake stinks
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[18:59] <markuman> i have question to the nvidia driver... http://www.rocklinux.net/packages/nvidia.html 
[18:59] <markuman> i have aa GeForce FX 5200
[19:00] <markuman> will it supportet to or i?ll need the new one from nvidia.de ?
[19:00] <markuman> and will rocket install it automaticaly? or edit xorg myself?
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[19:23] <daja77> markuman: you could grab the nvidia update from submaster and install it this way
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[19:32] <markuman> daja77: submaster?
[19:35] <mnemoc_> :)
[19:36] <markuman> hm...don`t understand that :-/
[19:37] <mnemoc_> submaster is the patch submitting and voting system use by ROCK
[19:37] <mnemoc_> www.rocklinux.net/submaster
[19:37] <markuman> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/submaster+M558f1b31f6c.html
[19:37] <markuman> ?ah, ok
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[22:05] <daja77> this is extremely annoying
[22:13] <netrunner> daja77: what?
[22:14] <daja77> isdn is not working with 2.6.x
[22:15] <owl> .oO( first time daja77 wants to use isdn with 2.6.x? )
[22:16] <daja77> yes indeed
[22:16] <owl> O_o still with 2.4.x?
[22:16] <daja77> read sth about that the isdn drivers only work with udev now
[22:16] <owl> hm. k. 
[22:17] <daja77> owl: yes I don't upgrade every box twice a week
[22:17] <owl> daja77: hehe. /me not too... 
[22:19] <netrunner> daja77: yup. that's why my server is still with 2.4 :)
[22:19] <owl> <- uses a hardware-router :p
[22:19] <daja77> netrunner: I could switch to 2.4 or implement udev ...
[22:20] <netrunner> daja77: I'm fine with 2.4
[22:21] <daja77> netrunner: i don't get it, all drivers are loaded but the /dev/isdn/isdninfo device is missing, wtf
[22:21] <netrunner> daja77: the features of 2.6 are not neccessary for servers
[22:21] <daja77> netrunner: it is a workstation ...
[22:21] <netrunner> oh well :)
[22:24] <daja77> if that would not just be so stupid ...
[22:29] <netrunner> daja77: I don't have that device either. if that consoles you :)
[22:31] <daja77> with 2.4?
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[22:48] <netrunner> daja77: yes. using capi driver
[22:49] <daja77> i just wanted to use the skrpit that just worked for a while
[22:49] <daja77> damn crap
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