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[08:49] <blindcoder> hmm [08:49] <blindcoder> I'm not aware of any timerelated roadmap [08:49] <blindcoder> so it's the same answer as anywhere else :) [08:50] <raphael> ok, so you release it when it's ready [08:50] <blindcoder> though from time to time Crystal ISOs pop up on iso.rocklinux.de [08:50] <blindcoder> Guess I'll build some when the KDE 3.4 update is in [08:50] <blindcoder> I want to reinstall a few laptops anyway [08:50] <raphael> hehe, yes, that would be nice [08:51] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [08:51] Action: netrunner will build a crystal before going to spb. [08:51] <blindcoder> spb? [08:51] <netrunner> hope the kde update is ready until then [08:51] <netrunner> st.petersburg [08:52] <blindcoder> ah [08:52] <blindcoder> well, I hope it's done until thursday [08:52] <blindcoder> since I'll be at my parents' over Easter and want to run a build during that time [08:52] <netrunner> ok, so I can build while I am in hh [08:52] <blindcoder> heh [08:57] <raphael> at what svn revision are you at the moment? [08:58] <blindcoder> 5747 [08:58] <blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/ [08:59] <raphael> ok [08:59] <raphael> uhm.... can I build a distribution on FreeBSD? Anyone knows? [08:59] <blindcoder> I doubt that [09:00] <raphael> well, it has Linux emulation and devfs [09:00] <raphael> but the FreeBSD devfs has a bit different namings for the devices. [09:00] <blindcoder> I don't know enough about FreeBSD but you might try [09:00] <blindcoder> or you use the bbs iso [09:00] <raphael> bbs? 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[11:41] <daja77> yes yesterday, it just depends when I am in the university for a fas connection [11:42] Action: netrunner still waiting for the patch :) [11:42] <netrunner> I think I am going to build my own because I have a list of packages I miss in crystal [11:44] <daja77> you can build them with crystal too, just tinker one checkbox more ;) [11:45] <netrunner> daja77: yes, but I'll do the crystal build myself to have those packages included. [11:46] <daja77> hf [11:50] <fake> hi [11:50] <daja77> moin fake [11:51] Action: fake has a telephone jack in his flat now [11:51] <fake> of course, it's not connected to the POTS [11:51] <fake> but directly to inode ;) [11:51] <daja77> so you'll have inet there soon? [11:57] <blindcoder> heh [11:57] <blindcoder> nice [11:57] <blindcoder> hmm [11:57] <blindcoder> I need/want in my crystal: rockinitrd, icewm [12:04] Action: netrunner counts openvpn, a few gnome core libs, firewire stuff and kino+dvgrab, xtris and a bunch of other stuff. [12:05] <blindcoder> well, yes. games :) [12:05] <blindcoder> btw. do we have jam packagd? [12:06] <blindcoder> ah, we have [12:07] <blindcoder> guess I'll package glest then ^^ [12:09] <blindcoder> netrunner: so you'll be using kino and dvgrab regularly? [12:10] <netrunner> blindcoder: as soon as this f*ing s*t starts working, yes :) [12:10] <netrunner> blindcoder: yet I spent two nights unsuccessfull. could you give me hints? [12:11] <blindcoder> netrunner: hardly. It just worked here [12:11] <blindcoder> I user raw1394, libavc, dvgrab and kino [12:11] <blindcoder> s/user/used/ [12:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: could it be the cable? [12:12] <blindcoder> have you tried it somewhere else? [12:12] <netrunner> blindcoder: the epia at least saw the camera. my build server with a pci firewire card didn't even see it connect (also not under windows) [12:13] <blindcoder> hmm [12:13] <blindcoder> guess you have the camera set correctly [12:13] <netrunner> dvgrab on the epia even started playback. but said it didn't receive anything. [12:14] <blindcoder> what did kino on the epia do? [12:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: pop up an error from kde (or was it gnome?) that said the application terminated unexpectedly [12:17] <netrunner> must be an issue with my gnome libs. [12:18] <blindcoder> hmm [12:18] <blindcoder> might be the cable, a setting on your cam or the pci card [12:18] <blindcoder> just about anything [12:18] <blindcoder> or the cam doesn't speak avc [12:19] <blindcoder> but its own sh*i protocol [12:19] <netrunner> blindcoder: it does, since dvgrab starts the playback. [12:19] <netrunner> (on the epia) [12:20] <blindcoder> ah, yes [12:20] <blindcoder> have you tried contacting the author or a mailinglist over there? [12:21] <blindcoder> As I said, it really jsut worked here :( [12:21] <netrunner> no. I found so many comments that had the same problem ("No DV" - message from dvgrab) and no answers... [12:21] <blindcoder> :( [12:25] <netrunner> I only wonder why the card in my build server doesn't react at all. [12:28] <blindcoder> is it even recognized? [12:52] DLCool (~Miranda@ip-83-149-0-113.nwgsm.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:10] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:10] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:25] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, nothing. nada. njente. [13:30] <netrunner> oh, now I can invite to gmail :) [13:36] <blindcoder> netrunner: so the pci card isn't even recognized? [13:36] <blindcoder> You might want to get another one or check your modules? [13:36] <netrunner> the card yes, but not the camera that I plug in [13:36] <netrunner> the card works fine with the ohci1394 [13:37] <netrunner> "works" as in "driver recognizes it" [13:37] <blindcoder> have you also the raw1394 module? [13:37] <netrunner> yes [13:37] <netrunner> got autoloaded by rockplug [13:38] <blindcoder> is there a device for that created when plugging in the cam? [13:38] <blindcoder> (btw, you want to use hotplug) [13:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: I am fine with rockplug. and no. not on the build machine. [13:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: on the epia I get quite some messages about a device registering or so. [13:40] <blindcoder> hmm [13:40] <blindcoder> you might try using a different cable but I doubt that [13:40] <blindcoder> it will help [13:40] <blindcoder> I think you should try a different card or cam to see if it works at all [13:41] <netrunner> hm yeah. [13:42] <netrunner> hm. maybe the eth1394 module interferes? [13:45] <blindcoder> shouldn't be [13:46] <blindcoder> though it crashed my machine once and I got really strange stuff going on with it [13:46] <blindcoder> like getting nice transmission rates in one, but only a few kb/s in the other direction [13:46] <blindcoder> and of course an oops when pulling the cable without rmmod'ing the module [14:10] _Ragnar_ (loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net) got netsplit. [14:10] daja77 ([vDIQG2SJS@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) got netsplit. [14:11] _Ragnar_ (loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net) returned to #rocklinux. [14:11] daja77 ([Csr8CWWhB@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:16] Action: netrunner wrote a message to kino forums. [14:16] <netrunner> daja77: uploading? :) [14:31] <blindcoder> daja77: so, how do you want your CLT livecd? [14:31] <daja77> netrunner: nope, tomorrow, I won't be at the university today [14:32] <netrunner> daja77: ah, because you [14:32] <netrunner> 're logged in from there :) [14:32] <daja77> cpu server ;) [14:46] <daja77> hrhr just founding a doc suggesting linux 2.0.33 for isdn [14:47] <blindcoder> o_O [14:49] <daja77> hey that could be stable!!!111 ;) [14:50] <blindcoder> hehe [14:51] <daja77> blindcoder: let's talk about the cd later, have to go now [14:58] <netrunner> oh wow, found out that I have another machine with ieee1394, my work notebook :) [14:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: heh [14:59] <blindcoder> daja77: okay [15:01] <netrunner> blindcoder: how fast would dvgrab/kino write to disk? is 100MBit network sufficient? [15:01] <blindcoder> sure [15:02] <blindcoder> 90 minutes ~30-40 GB [15:06] <netrunner> hm. [15:07] <netrunner> that's about 7,5MB/s. could work over net. what happens if there's like a traffic jam? does he pause and continue? [15:10] <blindcoder> probably [15:10] <blindcoder> but might also skip the part where the jam occured [15:10] <blindcoder> does it work on the other machine? [15:11] Action: netrunner is at work now. and the camera is at a friends who promised to copy the video. [15:11] <blindcoder> ah [16:20] netrunne1 (~andreas@pD9E8CF1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:22] netrunner (~andreas@pD9E8E3D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:22] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [18:14] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] fake (~fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:37] SteffenP (steffen@p5499416C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:49] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-191-135.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-138-253.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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