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[04:01] <mnemoc> anyone knows an online latin dictionary where i can ask for an already declened word?
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[08:54] <blindcoder> moin
[10:02] <netrunner> moin, 2
[10:02] <netrunner> hey, we're getting gentoo spam on rock-user?
[10:03] <blindcoder> looks like we do, yes
[10:03] <blindcoder> leave them be
[10:03] <blindcoder> they need the publicity
[10:03] Action: netrunner skipped easterhegg
[10:04] <blindcoder> why's that?
[10:04] <netrunner> to correct my patches
[10:05] <blindcoder> ah
[11:18] <fake> moin
[11:18] <daja77> moin fake 
[11:18] <blindcoder> moin moin
[11:19] <daja77> wow giftnuss uses his real name on sm now
[11:19] <blindcoder> heh
[11:19] <blindcoder> I already wondered who this Sebastian Knapp was :)
[11:20] <daja77> I met him @ dresden last year, so I knew it anyway ^^
[11:20] <blindcoder> ah
[11:22] <blindcoder> fake: *ahem* sonar data?
[11:23] <fake> blindcoder: imprintend in my mind
[11:23] <daja77> :D
[11:23] <fake> blindcoder: i'll get internet tomorrow with a little luck
[11:23] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[11:23] <fake> blindcoder: would make it easier
[11:23] <fake> kde 3.4 is great
[11:23] <blindcoder> I'll be in IN over Easter and probably without reliable internet (dial up into my home network)
[11:24] <blindcoder> fake: I plan to install my laptop with it once it's in truk
[11:24] <blindcoder> trunk
[11:25] Action: daja77 wants to install his crystal build on his old laptop and hope it works
[11:25] <blindcoder> good luck :)
[11:41] Nick change: SMP_ -> SMP
[11:42] <fake> hi SMP
[11:42] <SMP> yeah
[11:43] Action: SMP on GPRS
[11:43] <SMP> still no phone in my new flat
[11:43] <daja77> .oO (rocklinux is moving)
[11:46] <fake> SMP: i may get my DSL tomorrow *yay*
[11:46] <SMP> you also moved?
[11:47] <fake> yes, where did you move?
[11:47] <th> oh hi SMP 
[11:47] <th> SMP: i'll get my dsl on 31.03
[11:47] <SMP> uh. tomorrow? that would be Karfreitag
[11:47] <fake> 31.3. != tomorrow
[11:47] <fake> ah, ic
[11:47] <SMP> I moved to Brunswick
[11:47] <th> fake: your confused ;)
[11:47] <fake> karfreitag is not a holiday where i live now ;)
[11:48] <daja77> not?
[11:48] <fake> nope
[11:48] <daja77> i thought it was catholic after all
[11:48] <fake> http://www.brunswick.com/
[11:48] <SMP> fake: lucky you. laws in Lower-Saxony forbid amusement on the Easter weekend
[11:48] <daja77> yeah here too, but i will have some fun, soemhow ...
[11:49] <SMP> . o O ( maybe should visit th, no such laws in Saxony-Anhalt ... )
[11:49] <fake> SMP: yeah, dancing is prohibited in bavaria
[11:49] <fake> SMP: i moved to vienna
[11:49] <th> oh so tomorrow is a holiday day here?
[11:49] <th> damn it
[11:49] <daja77> th: hehe my thoughts
[11:50] <th> cant we have all holiday days on sundays?
[11:50] <SMP> fake: yeah, knew about Vienna
[11:50] <th> SMP: we've our keys since tuesday last week
[11:50] <SMP> th: surprise, monday's another holiday
[11:50] <th> SMP: and dsl confirmed for 31.03.
[11:50] <th> SMP: oh
[11:50] <SMP> th: so you haven't moved in yet?
[11:51] <th> shit
[11:51] <daja77> .oO (3 crosses when easter is over)
[11:51] <th> SMP: some stuff is there. but i wont sleep there until 31.0.3
[11:51] <th> 31.03.
[11:51] <fake> th: where did/do you move?
[11:51] <th> fake: in town
[11:51] <fake> th: ah, okay
[11:52] <fake> th: make it findable for us gps users ;)
[11:53] <th> SMP: and i'm searching for a good rack
[11:53] <SMP> I thought your gf does have a nice rack?
[11:53] <SMP> ;-p
[11:53] <th> ;-p
[11:54] <th> you're mixing things up which i always tried to not mix up ;)
[11:55] <fake> okay, *now* i need dict.leo.org
[11:55] <daja77> hm?
[11:55] <SMP> I don't think it's in the dict
[11:55] <fake> aaah...
[11:55] <fake> i get it
[11:55] <SMP> is it?
[11:55] <fake> "das Gestell" is a nice hint
[11:56] <blindcoder> hehe, yes :)
[11:56] <daja77> you'd just need some fantasy for that ^^
[11:56] <fake> "die Folterbank" ...
[11:56] <fake> o_O
[11:56] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:56] <th> lol
[11:56] <blindcoder> anyone know the amusementlaws about Easter in Bavaria?
[11:56] <daja77> hehe
[11:56] <th> yea she has one... but we dont use it often
[11:56] <fake> blindcoder: no dancing on friday, iirc
[11:56] <blindcoder> so that I could take some booze with me just in case
[11:56] <fake> and no loud music
[11:56] <blindcoder> #define loud ?
[11:57] <fake> but the party starts at 0:00, so you won't notice
[11:57] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[11:57] <blindcoder> .oO(who leaves before midnight, anyway?)
[11:58] <SMP> no parties allowed here starting today until end of Saturday
[11:58] <fake> uh
[11:58] <fake> that sucks
[11:58] <blindcoder> there's still sunday all day :D
[11:59] <fake> it's time for a french revolution again. separation of church and state... eh
[11:59] <daja77> you see the catholics are tricking around the protestants are worse ...
[11:59] <daja77> .oO (it is a holiday, please do not celebrate) 
[12:00] <blindcoder> hey, leave us Protestants out of that
[12:00] <blindcoder> [ AGAINST ]
[12:00] <th> SMP: so what should i take? digitus, knuerr, rittal, hp?
[12:01] <daja77> blindcoder: you are not in power there ;)
[12:02] <blindcoder> daja77: says who?
[12:04] <SMP> th: no idea
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[12:29] <BoS> cltgames
[12:29] <BoS> #cltgames
[12:29] <BoS> #freebsd.de
[12:29] <th> BoS: gone nuts?
[12:29] <fake> o_O
[12:29] <BoS> sry 
[12:29] <daja77> muhahaha you are screwed
[12:29] <BoS> mroning
[12:30] <fake> to the weapons, channel!
[12:30] <th> no games on Karfreitag!
[12:30] <fake> today isn't friday, right? you keep confusing me
[12:30] <BoS> mm -  today isn't friday
[12:31] <daja77> if it would be friday I'd have problems now ...
[12:32] <blindcoder> daja77: loud music?
[12:32] Action: blindcoder picks up his blessed +2 typewriter and wield it as a weapon
[12:34] <daja77> blindcoder: erhm no, nevermind
[12:34] <blindcoder> ...
[12:34] <blindcoder> no amuesement on karfreitag...
[12:34] <blindcoder> okay, who's with you? :)
[12:35] <daja77> tomorrow? ;)
[12:35] <daja77> you know her ;)
[12:37] Action: blindcoder waves to either lay or drosera, whoever it is :)
[12:38] <daja77> ack ^^
[12:44] <fake> the  two chicks on the pics?
[12:44] <daja77> yes ...
[12:44] <fake> i'm in
[12:44] <daja77> :D
[12:44] <fake> lucky daja77 
[12:44] <daja77> just one of them though ;)
[12:45] <fake> that means the other one is not booked. good ^^
[12:45] <daja77> not by me, no ;)
[12:46] <fake> you could organize an irc-date, does that count as social interaction?
[12:46] <daja77> hehe
[12:46] <daja77> i sort of dated her on irc
[12:46] <fake> j/k
[12:46] <daja77> ;)
[12:47] Action: fake trying gnome 2.10 update once again...
[12:47] <daja77> nice mozilla finally built
[12:54] <fake> daja77: cool!
[12:54] <daja77> what?
[12:59] <fake> the updates
[13:00] <daja77> ah k. :)
[13:00] Action: daja77 off now
[13:04] <fake> bye daja77 
[13:16] <owl> grmpf
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[13:36] <fake> hi Pilot 
[13:37] <Pilot> hi, fake
[13:37] Action: Pilot looks around...
[13:38] Action: fake *waves*
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[13:45] <blindcoder> bye
[13:45] <fake> blindcoder: save trip!
[13:45] <fake> greet ingolstadt from me ;)
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[18:44] <daja77> crap the crystal iso segfaults on the old laptop and in qemu but works on a newer laptop
[18:46] <fake> optimization?
[18:47] <daja77> none
[18:47] <fake> what does segfault? or kernel panic / oops ?
[18:47] <daja77> i never used optimzation for bootdisk but perhaps this is the problem
[18:47] <daja77> kernel panic
[18:47] <fake> hm
[18:47] <fake> that's weird
[18:48] <fake> the non-optimized kernel is built for 486
[18:48] <daja77> argh ok that might explain it
[18:48] <daja77> works on i686
[18:49] <fake> because there is cmpxchg on 486, but not on i386...
[18:49] <fake> speeds things up a little
[18:49] <fake> but it should work in qemu nontheless
[18:49] <daja77> perhaps i should default bootdisk to p-mmx too
[18:49] <fake> i always build them un-modified, too..
[18:51] <daja77> the cpu is a 533Mhz celeron
[18:52] <fake> then it really should work
[18:52] <daja77> it shoudl ;)
[18:52] <fake> maybe some hardware in the laptop? what agp brigde/chipset does it have?
[18:52] <fake> i have strange kernel panics with intel agp devices lately (ich)
[18:52] <daja77> intel chipset
[18:52] <daja77> but an older one
[18:53] <fake> daja77: though i never had problems with the bootdisk...
[18:53] <daja77> well this machine boots a rocklinux so one botdisk must have worked for it
[18:55] <fake> try acpi=off pci=noacpi
[18:55] <fake> may be because of a broken acpi bios...
[18:56] <daja77> ah perhaps
[18:56] <daja77> brb
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[19:00] <daja77> it is still panicking, after loading the md raid drivers 
[19:02] <fake> urks
[19:02] <fake> if you have a running kernel on it, maybe you can extract the working config
[19:02] <fake> if it is 2.6..
[19:03] <daja77> it is 2.4 i guess
[19:03] <daja77> on the hd
[19:03] <daja77> this machine is evil it made the free- and netbsd kernels crash too ;)
[19:04] <fake> hehe
[19:13] <daja77> but the freebsd guys closed the bug report without ever fixing that
[19:26] <daja77> fake: do you have a minute?
[19:42] <fake> sure
[19:42] <daja77> I try to add patches to glibc atm to fix the hppa crossbuild
[19:43] <fake> okay
[19:43] <daja77> so i added a tar.bz2 with the patches to download   
[19:44] <daja77> i added a command to the prepatch hook like the one for the linuxthreads patch
[19:44] <daja77> if i want to add the diff files, they should be in $archdir/subdir_created_by_the_tar?
[19:45] <fake> hm... that's not so nice
[19:45] <daja77> why
[19:45] <fake> they are extracted in whatever directory you are in
[19:46] <daja77> oh hm
[19:46] <fake> for exmample, linuxthreads needs to be inside the extracted glibc dir
[19:46] <daja77> ic
[19:46] <fake> is it a tar.bz2 of many .diff files, or one big diff in a bz2 ?
[19:47] <daja77> many diff files
[19:47] <fake> weird...
[19:47] <daja77> about 200k in total
[19:47] <fake> you could extract to stdout and pipe that to patch...
[19:47] <fake> tar -O - or so...
[19:48] <daja77> hm might be better
[19:56] <fake> of course, if one doesn't apply cleanly, you'll have to modify them anyways...
[19:57] <daja77> the look like sane p1 patches, we'll seee
[19:57] <daja77> -e
[19:58] <daja77> hm there is an official --bzip option in tar ...
[19:58] <fake> yep, since 1.14 or so
[19:59] <fake> you don't have to pass anything since 1.15
[19:59] <fake> it detects compression itself
[19:59] <daja77> nice
[20:00] <daja77> ok next try
[20:02] <daja77> hah I broke it ;)
[20:03] <fake> cool ^^
[20:03] <daja77> ic the host tar is a 1.14
[20:04] <fake> daja77: use --compress-program=bzip2
[20:04] <fake> daja77: thats compatible back to 1.2 or so
[20:05] <daja77> ic
[20:06] <daja77> unrecognized option @_@
[20:06] <daja77> ah --use-compress-program ^^
[20:08] <daja77> hm it is again hanging
[20:10] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS^afk
[20:12] <daja77> == 20:14:57 =[1]=> Building base/glibc=glibc23 [2.3.3 0].
[20:12] <daja77> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[20:13] <daja77> this is where it stops
[20:17] <fake> oops.. sorry...
[20:18] <fake> that means it sources the .conf.
[20:18] <fake> some non-ending command is outside a build function
[20:18] <daja77> i only added the tar command
[20:20] <fake> inside the prepatch ?
[20:20] <daja77> no in the custmain
[20:20] <fake> that shouldn't be called there
[20:20] <fake> ha!
[20:20] <fake> it's done!
[20:20] <fake> gnome 2.10 update ... 
[20:22] <daja77> ah ok so I do that tar -O stuff in the prepatch
[20:22] <daja77> cool
[20:29] <fake> daja77: why do you have a libxml++ package?
[20:30] <fake> daja77: it's pretty outdated, the current version is 2.10.0 (it's part of gnome, so i'd like to see it in package/gnome2...)
[20:31] <daja77> it is a dependency of wormux
[20:31] <fake> the version 1 is mandatory?
[20:31] <fake> or could it be updated?
[20:31] <daja77> it only works with the old version
[20:31] <fake> can you rename it to libxml++1 ?
[20:32] <daja77> but iirc you can install the new version in parallel
[20:32] <fake> i hope so... ;)
[20:32] <daja77> it puts its stuff in different dirs
[20:32] <daja77> i've seen that
[20:33] <fake> daja77: can you rename it?
[20:34] <daja77> the directory in my repo?
[20:34] Action: netrunner listens to himself
[20:34] Action: fake listenst to rantradio.com
[20:38] <netrunner> stupid echo in voip :/
[20:40] <fake> daja77: yes
[20:41] <daja77> argl wtf
[20:41] <daja77> svn: Out of date: '/WORK/package/daja77/libxml++' in transaction '97-1'
[20:41] <fake> netrunner: actual, that's real fun. it's a game: put on the headphone, dial the echo test and try to talk someone in the same room wihtout getting distracted
[20:41] <fake> daja77: svn up
[20:42] <netrunner> hm? Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.google.de
[20:42] <netrunner> weird. bind is weird sometimes.
[20:43] <netrunner> fake: well, i call a friend and hear myself after 2 secs delay
[20:43] <fake> netrunner: how's that?
[20:43] <netrunner> fake: that if I'd know.
[20:43] <fake> netrunner: he has a hadset?
[20:43] <fake> *headset
[20:44] <netrunner> fake: no. laptop. windows. x-lite.
[20:44] <netrunner> fake: I just sent him to his dungeons to dig for one.
[20:44] <fake> might explain it
[20:44] <netrunner> because it's fine if he calls my asterisk via phone.
[20:45] <daja77> fake: see if that works for you
[20:45] <fake> you also have to configure x-ten to 'transmit silence'
[20:45] <fake> daja77: if it's in sm somehow that's ok
[20:45] <fake> daja77: moves can't be handled by submaster
[20:45] <fake> just as a reminder..
[20:46] <daja77> hm a mv consists of adds and dels both can be handled by submaster ...
[20:46] <fake> deletes arent' handled too well
[20:47] <daja77> it works when you said sm del instead of svn del
[20:47] <daja77> at least it did
[20:47] <fake> daja77: but not for the reference build - smap doesn't sm del empty files
[20:47] <fake> err, svn del
[20:48] <fake> nevermind, it's absolutely fine that way
[20:48] <netrunner> hm, no change :(
[20:48] <daja77> good
[20:49] <daja77> ok that tar in the prepatch did not work
[20:50] <daja77> hm it is not prepatch but patch ...
[20:50] <fake> it belongs in the preconf or prepatch hook
[20:51] <fake> you coudl apply it to a vanilla extracted glibc and diff it again, and push that to your ppl directory as diff.bz2...
[20:51] <fake> then use bzcat $archdir/correct-file.diff.bz2 | patch -p1 
[20:51] <fake> or so
[20:54] <daja77> will try that, it only has a prepatch hook so far
[20:56] <daja77> guess the harder part will be fixing dietlibc ^^
[20:58] <fake> hehe
[20:58] <daja77> oh not nice
[20:58] <daja77> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[20:58] <daja77> digging through this
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[21:00] <fake> hi markuman 
[21:00] <markuman> hi
[21:01] <daja77> my personal easterhegg is to get this running ;)
[21:02] <fake> my personal easterhegg is the gnome 2.10 thing...
[21:02] <fake> the current gnome has no file icons in place, and not even a gnome menu in the panel
[21:03] <fake> i'll need to run another full refbuild before i can start 'the' reference build
[21:03] <fake> that will be deferred until monday i guess
[21:03] <fake> so we're back in business around tuesday next week
[21:03] <daja77> monday is a holiday here too
[21:04] <fake> so it is in austria
[21:04] <mnemoc_> why?
[21:04] <fake> mnemoc_: easter
[21:04] <fake> mnemoc_: the egg and rabbit thing
[21:04] <fake> mnemoc_: or, to act christian, the christ raising from the dead thing
[21:04] <mnemoc_> we have that on sunday :)
[21:05] <fake> mnemoc_: i thought he was killed on friday and rebooted on monday, or something
[21:05] <daja77> hi mnemoc_ 
[21:05] Action: fake has absolutely no idea
[21:06] <mnemoc_> he was rebooted on sunday here :)
[21:07] <fake> oh, well, mayeb he threw a party on monday
[21:07] <mnemoc_> hi daja77 
[21:07] Action: fake very blasphemic today
[21:07] <mnemoc_> cool chocolate party on monday :)
[21:07] <fake> where?
[21:07] <mnemoc_> jerusalem
[21:07] <daja77> damn it
[21:07] <mnemoc_> :p
[21:08] <fake> little off my track...
[21:08] <owl> moin
[21:08] <daja77> the patches are from 2004-09 and seem to apply to glibc-2.3.2 
[21:08] <fake> moin owlita!
[21:08] <mnemoc_> today i got a train ticket to go to vote to rome.... but they forgot the plain ticket :(
[21:08] <daja77> but there are debs from 2004-10 I hate it
[21:08] <mnemoc_> moin owlinette
[21:09] <mnemoc_> plane*
[21:10] <daja77> mnemoc_: voting?
[21:10] <fake> he's a candidate for the next pope
[21:10] <owl> hi fake , mnemoc_ 
[21:10] <owl> someone has an uncommited lesbian friend?
[21:11] <daja77> no
[21:11] <mnemoc_> daja77: according to this letter 'presidente della Regione e del consiglio regionale'
[21:11] <owl> if yes, please tell me... need one for my (female) boss... - might she will not do 'sexuelle belaestigung' to me anymore, then. thx.
[21:11] <fake> owl: i know 4
[21:11] <mnemoc_> daja77: i guess that is some kind of governator
[21:12] <owl> fake: uncommited? living in munich?
[21:12] <fake> owl: yes, and, no. but may be to young for your boss.
[21:12] <mnemoc_> uhm
[21:12] <mnemoc_> fake: how young is your uncommited lesbian friend?
[21:13] <owl> fake: hm. bad. she even has no car... how old? my boss's about 33 or 34 years.
[21:13] <daja77> omg we are listed
[21:13] <daja77> http://wiki.parisc-linux.org/Distributions
[21:13] <daja77> doesn't work at all
[21:13] <fake> hehehe
[21:13] <owl> hehehehe. congrats, daja77 :p
[21:16] <markuman> it is interesting that here are lot of people from germany...
[21:17] <fake> markuman: where are you from?
[21:17] <markuman> from germany too
[21:17] <fake> mind being more specific?
[21:18] <fake> i'm from ingolstadt, but i now live in vienna
[21:18] <fake> so i don't count for germany anymore ;)
[21:18] <markuman> i?m from warstein....where is vienna???
[21:18] <fake> vienna = wien
[21:18] <th> fake: was that an assignment?
[21:19] <fake> th: it's a regular full-time job
[21:19] <th> fake: no. it's an assignment or an expression
[21:20] <fake> ah. i thought of 'assignment' the work-way
[21:20] <th> yea that messed the joke..
[21:20] <fake> sorry... i owe you one.
[21:21] <fake> markuman: so, what brings you here?
[21:22] <markuman> i?m using rock linux crystal.5370 from you
[21:23] <fake> did you build it yourself?
[21:23] <markuman> for the first not...
[21:24] <fake> where did you get the iso, if i may ask?
[21:24] <markuman> iso.rocklinux.de
[21:24] <fake> daja77: installing libxml++ 1 and 2 in parallel works fine
[21:25] <fake> oh, the 21c3 one
[21:25] <markuman> yes
[21:26] <fake> markuman: any feedback / suggestions ?
[21:27] <daja77> fake: good
[21:27] <markuman> it works fine ;-) ...but rock is not easy if you come from debian. it makes lazy
[21:27] <fake> hehe ;)
[21:30] <fake> seems like the gnome 2.10 update is done...
[21:30] <fake> phew.
[21:30] <daja77> congrats
[21:30] <fake> now the only thing missing is renaming opt/gnome28 to opt/gnome2 like for kde
[21:31] <daja77> that hppa patch handling sucks, no official dload location, only included stuff in distributions
[21:31] <fake> and writing a cron script for updating the mime database and desktop-file database
[21:32] <daja77> and disabling these ugly scrollkepper messages that are on install?
[21:33] <fake> daja77: that sucks, i agree, but hiding error messages? i don't know...
[21:33] <blindcoder> fake: thanks, I'm in IN :-)
[21:33] <daja77> the error is only that you don't have a network connection at that time ...
[21:33] <blindcoder> (since 18:00)
[21:37] <fake> blindcoder: glad to hear
[21:37] <fake> daja77: it's sucky that it tries to resolve network references.. maybe there is an option...
[21:38] <netrunner> fake: are you using asterisk?
[21:38] <fake> netrunner: yep
[21:39] <netrunner> fake: what would I have to add to my config to be able to call you?
[21:39] <fake> netrunner: depends on how you intend to do it
[21:39] <fake> netrunner: you can always call sip:fake@f4k3.net
[21:39] <netrunner> if I enter your address it says user not found, so I guess my asterisk doesn't know how to reach you.
[21:39] <fake> netrunner: though my voicemailbox will grab the call, i have no local setup right now
[21:40] <blindcoder> fake: greeting from Rolf
[21:40] <fake> you need to enable something in the asterisk config...
[21:40] <fake> blindcoder: schluchtenscheissergruesse zurueck
[21:41] <netrunner> fake: that something is what I am looking for :)
[21:42] <blindcoder> fake: did you already do this or seen someone doing this?
[21:56] <fake> blindcoder: nope. no schluchten anywhere near
[21:56] <fake> netrunner: just a second...
[21:56] <daja77> fake: it seems that this only works with glibc-2.3.2, would it be ok, to have it as a forked package for this purpose? 
[21:57] <fake> netrunner: in asterisk's sip.conf, in the [general] option, there needs to be 'srvlookup=yes'
[21:57] <netrunner> hm, that is on yes.
[21:57] <fake> daja77: the glibc version in trunk is 2.3.3 - you want to fork off an older glibc?
[21:58] <fake> netrunner: then it's just Dial(SIP/fake@f4k3.net,rt)
[21:58] <daja77> yes because there are no woking patches for 2.3.3 or even 2.3.4
[21:59] <netrunner> fake: wonderfull. now the window dissapears and says 'killed'
[22:07] <fake> daja77: urks... 
[22:07] <fake> netrunner: i'll take a loog at my console...
[22:08] <daja77> fake: perhaps i had a corrupted download, tyring again
[22:08] <fake> netrunner: try now
[22:08] <fake> daja77: you have my thumb
[22:08] <netrunner> fake: I'll try with kphone in a second. I can enter that Dial string directly in the sw?
[22:08] <netrunner> fake: or do I have to create an extension?
[22:08] <fake> no!
[22:08] <fake> depends
[22:09] <fake> if you have a catch-all/fall-through extension for your sip clients, you can just dial fake@f4k3.net
[22:09] <fake> there needs to be some place in your asterisk dialplan where Dial(SIP/fake@f4k3.net) is then executed
[22:09] <fake> like, 'if anything else fails, try Dial(SIP/${EXTEN})
[22:09] <fake> '
[22:12] <fake> netrunner: when i have dsl in my flat, we can connect our asterisk through IAX
[22:13] <daja77> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[22:13] <daja77> wtf
[22:13] <daja77> argl
[22:15] <fake>  Just wanted to let you know you were just left a 0:05 long message (number 6)
[22:15] <fake> in mailbox 3253 from Andreas V. Meier, on Thursday, March 24, 2005 at 10:16:38 PM so you might
[22:15] <fake> want to check it when you get a chance.  Thanks!
[22:15] <fake> hehe ;)
[22:16] <netrunner> oh. I didn't hear anything. but it said 'in call' :)
[22:16] <netrunner> fake: do you have an empty message?
[22:16] <fake> netrunner: yes
[22:16] <netrunner> fake: I mean, your voicebox doesn't ask for 'leave a message' or so?
[22:17] <fake> netrunner: sure it does.
[22:18] <fake> -- Executing VoiceMail("SIP/217.232.212.191-08167c58", "u3253") in new stack
[22:18] <fake> -- Playing '/var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/3253/unavail' (language 'en')
[22:18] <fake> and so on
[22:18] <netrunner> ah, stupid, I guess I have a firewalling problem here. :)
[22:19] <fake> that's why i made the iax2 suggestion
[22:20] <netrunner> fake: good idea. I have already 2 machines in my "voip-network" .)
[22:20] <netrunner> (connected via iax"
[22:20] <netrunner> stupid iaxcomm tries to lock a file. that doesn't work over nfs :/
[22:21] <daja77> hehe but I found out that the gentoo guys have no newer patches
[22:25] <daja77> oh hacking an older glibc in is indeed ugly
[22:26] Action: fake testing gnome 2.10 update...
[22:26] <daja77> hf
[22:26] <fake> ... i think it's gonna blow
[22:26] <daja77> hehe
[22:44] Action: netrunner just made a call to moldova using iaxcomm on the other side.
[22:45] <netrunner> impressive quality, annoying delay (~5secs)
[22:50] <fake> netrunner: what codec do you use?
[22:51] Action: daja77 loves debug.sh
[22:51] <netrunner> fake: dunno :)
[22:52] <netrunner> fake: whatever that software chose to use. I had kphone on my side, and nicu used iaxcomm.
[22:52] <fake> netrunner: your asterisk can tell you that on the console.
[22:52] <fake> netrunner: if it's a-law, u-law or adpcm, it's no wonder it's delayed
[22:53] <fake> netrunner: try gsm or g723
[22:53] <daja77> oh ic parts of the patches are already in
[22:53] <netrunner> fake: I have to set that in the software, no?
[22:54] <netrunner> ah, my kphoe was set to g711u
[23:04] <fake> netrunner: that does not matter.
[23:04] <fake> netrunner: what matters is the connection from your asterisk to the iaxcomm
[23:04] <fake> netrunner: you can set the allowed/disallowrd codecs in iax.conf
[23:04] <fake> you can alos set bandwidth=medium
[23:04] <fake> but i'm not sure which codecs that rules out
[23:05] <netrunner> fake: the iaxcomm was set to gsm. 
[23:06] <netrunner> fake: I just set my kphone to gsm and we tried again, but didn't change much.
[23:06] <netrunner> maybe my server is just too busy :)
[23:06] <fake> netrunner: if it's also set to not accept the other party's codec, that should be fine
[23:06] <fake> netrunner: that's because if you call through your asterisk, the codec you choose in kphone is only betweeen your kphone and *your* asterisk server
[23:07] <fake> netrunner: run the echo test on your server and see how much delay you have there. you may want to use u-law (g711.u) between kphone and asterisk, but gsm to the outside.
[23:13] markuman (~markus@pD9E4C686.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[23:13] Action: netrunner doing the echo dance
[23:15] Action: netrunner playing taxidriver for his brother. bbl
[00:00] --- Fri Mar 25 2005