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[01:48] <owl> hi fdisque 
[01:48] <fdisque> hi
[01:51] <mnemoc> *yawn*
[01:52] <owl> hi mnemoc 
[01:52] <owl> how are you?
[01:53] <mnemoc> ill, and you?
[01:53] <owl> mnemoc: hmm. angry. thx. why ill? 
[01:54] <mnemoc> a virus decided to visit me
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[01:54] <mnemoc> why angry?
[01:54] <owl> mnemoc: damn it :( get on well soon
[01:54] <owl> mnemoc: cuz of this fscking mysql... 
[01:55] <mnemoc> owl: use postgres :)
[01:57] <owl> mnemoc: it's not my server... it's just a hoster... and on my vserver i'm glad if postfix is not being killed (24 MB for every user ... 24 MB of ram)
[01:58] <mnemoc> just 24??
[01:58] <mnemoc> less than 50 is useless
[01:58] <owl> yes. 250 users/system
[01:58] <owl> and about 6 GB of ram
[01:59] <owl> yes, it is... the joke: when i ordered the damned vserver, those assholes had on their website "up to 60 users/system"
[01:59] <owl> well... now: 250 users/system *pukes*
[02:01] <owl> so... if you've got a mysql or postgresql, postfix, 2 ssh-sessions, 2 screens, 2 irssi, 2 centericq and apache2 started, then you can see your postfix, screen, irssi, centericq seing saying "bye, bye", and your mysql restarts every 5 seconds
[02:02] <mnemoc> if you can't give 50MB per user you must buy need hardware
[02:03] <mnemoc> buy new hardware*
[02:03] <owl> huh? why /me?
[02:03] <mnemoc> no, they
[02:03] <mnemoc> 'one'
[02:03] <owl> yeah... but they don't care
[02:04] <owl> you can be lucky if there's a company-member who has a clue what he's speaking about
[02:04] <owl> "no, you don't get the "cannot allocate memory" errors because of physically and swap-memory is running out. it must be a problem with your config"
[02:07] <owl> gnarf
[02:08] <mnemoc> pff
[02:08] <owl> hm?
[02:11] <mnemoc> nothing... just a 'sound'
[02:14] <owl> yes, but why?
[02:16] <mnemoc> due to the answer you get 
[02:18] <owl> ahso :p
[02:18] <owl> nice, isn't it? *cough*
[02:19] <owl> anyways - i'm trying to sleep, now. gn8
[02:21] <mnemoc> n8 owl 
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[08:35] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:20] <owl> moin
[09:23] <blindcoder> moin owl
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[09:26] <owl> hi blindy
[09:27] <owl> add to todo: bringing back the 2nd defect notebook-cooler to mediamarkt
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[09:37] <esden> hallo allerseits
[09:37] <owl> hi esden 
[09:37] <esden> hi owl ;)
[09:37] <esden> how are you?
[09:37] <esden> long time no see 
[09:38] <owl> hum. a bit dead, confused and hungry. thx. you? ;)
[09:38] <esden> fine thanks ... waiting for professor ... and bit deat as you are
[09:38] <esden> should have slept a bit more ;)
[09:39] <fake> esden: moin!
[09:39] <esden> hi fake!
[09:39] <fake> how are you?
[09:40] <esden> fine thanks ... finally in Rosenheim
[09:40] <esden> and how are you?
[09:41] <fake> i'm fine, too
[09:41] <fake> finally got settled ;)
[09:41] Action: fake getting coffee
[09:41] <owl> esden: ack :p here too. how is your studying? you're doing it again?
[09:42] <esden> no not again ... /me continuing ;)
[09:43] Action: esden had already two coffee
[09:43] <owl> ah. ic. 
[09:43] <owl> how comes?
[09:44] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[09:44] <blindcoder> moin fake 
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[09:53] <esden> ok ... my connection is very unstable ... >_<
[09:53] <esden> brb
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[09:54] <esden> re
[09:55] <owl> wb esden 
[09:59] <blindcoder> esden: unstable, indeed
[09:59] <blindcoder> esden: btw, you know that apollo will die naround end of the month?
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[10:14] <fake> clifford: ping
[10:15] <gravisan|a> hi can any one help me with a compilation problem
[10:15] <gravisan|a> I have been working on this for two days
[10:16] <gravisan|a> and searching on google, reading howto's but non mention my problem
[10:16] <gravisan|a> I am trying to compile root nfs into the kernel
[10:16] <gravisan|a> I have edited the .config so CONFIG_NFS_ROOT=y
[10:16] <gravisan|a> and when I do...the linker breaks
[10:16] <gravisan|a> I can't figure out why
[10:17] <gravisan|a> text search for the error message that comes up gives me the most irrelevant results
[10:20] <fake> gravisan|a: you need kernel level autoconfig in the network section built into the kernel
[10:20] <fake> gravisan|a: if the option for nfs root doesn't show up in make menuconfig, you are missing a prerequisite
[10:21] <gravisan|a> oh ...
[10:21] <gravisan|a> it shows up inside .config though
[10:22] <gravisan|a> but says not set
[10:22] <gravisan|a> how do I satisfy this?
[10:23] <gravisan|a> what do you mean by kernel evel autoconfig
[10:23] <gravisan|a> sorry level*
[10:24] <fake> in Device Drivers -> Networking
[10:24] <fake> -> Networking options
[10:24] <fake> [*]   IP: kernel level autoconfiguration
[10:24] <fake> [*]     IP: DHCP support
[10:25] <fake> or whatever you like
[10:25] <fake> and, of course you need
[10:25] <fake> <*> NFS server support
[10:25] <fake> that shoudl give you
[10:25] <fake> an option: [ ] Root file system on NFS
[10:26] <gravisan|a> ok I am inside netowrking options but it was on the main menu
[10:26] <fake> are you using 2.4?
[10:26] <gravisan|a> yes
[10:26] <fake> oh.
[10:27] <fake> well, despite that menu entry, it shouldn't matter
[10:27] <gravisan|a> ok
[10:28] <gravisan|a> i have enabled , autoconfiguration , dhcp , bootp, and arp
[10:29] <fake> now the option for root nfs should show up in the network filesystem menu
[10:29] <gravisan|a> yes :D
[10:29] <gravisan|a> thank you so much
[10:29] <gravisan|a> ...
[10:29] <fake> that's the ticket ;)
[10:30] <fake> you're welcome
[10:30] <gravisan|a> I think it should compile :D
[10:30] <gravisan|a> i will get you as much beer as you want
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[10:31] <gravisan|a> time to compile this :) ... thanks again
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[10:34] <fake> a lifetime support of beer ! wee!
[10:35] <owl> hm. beer?
[10:35] <fake> beer!
[10:38] <esden> hurgh net back >_<
[10:45] <blindcoder> esden: you know that apollo will die at the end of the month?
[10:47] <owl> s
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[12:10] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:10] <blindcoder> esden doesn't talk with me :(
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[13:22] <DLCool> hi All :)
[13:22] <blindcoder> hi DLCool 
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[14:32] <th> (2.0-stable has kde-3.3.2 now)
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[14:47] <raphael> Hello!
[14:48] <th> hello raphael 
[14:48] <raphael> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/official/2.0-stable/pre-release/pkgs-20040914-generic-desktop
[14:48] <raphael> Are these optimized for MMX, or do they work with normal Pentium 1 as well?
[14:48] <th> raphael: gimme a second to answer that
[14:49] <raphael> (I have an old P1 without MMX and... would like to have it do sth useful)
[14:49] <raphael> And: is there any more recent full package set available?
[14:50] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/2.0-stable/pre-release/2.0.4-pre1/crystal-emu/rock-crystal_emu-2.0.4-pmmx.iso
[14:50] <th> this one is more recent
[14:50] <th> do you need single package files?
[14:51] <raphael> uhm... I need either a root filesystem or single packages
[14:51] <th> do you have enough bandwidth to just download the iso?
[14:51] <raphael> but the packages can be in an ISO image as well
[14:51] <th> and than mount the iso
[14:51] <th> and copy the packages?
[14:51] <th> good
[14:51] <th> but you need non-mmx?
[14:52] <raphael> yes, just checked, I have enough bandwidth
[14:52] <raphael> yes, non-mmx
[14:52] <th> hmmmm
[14:52] <raphael> oh, your link is for mmx...
[14:52] <th> none of the standard-builds i did where non-mmx
[14:52] <th> yea i'm sorry
[14:52] <th> and i'd say the  pkgs-20040914-generic-desktop/ is mmx too
[14:53] <th> do you need a quite minimal package set
[14:53] <th> ?
[14:53] <th> or full desktop?
[14:53] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/2.0-stable/pre-release/2.0.4-pre1/buildbootstrap/pkgs/
[14:53] <raphael> I need a desktop as well, but the full installation should be smaller than 2 GB
[14:53] <th> that's non-desktop but 486
[14:54] <th> there is currently no non-mmx build available for 2.0-stable
[14:54] <raphael> mhm, something at least
[14:54] <th> ...which is desktop
[14:54] <raphael> Well, the problem is I have three machines that all run FreeBSD
[14:54] <th> if you can wait for 4 days...
[14:54] <raphael> Are you currently building another set of pkgs?
[14:54] <th> i could make another pre-release 486 for your
[14:54] <raphael> Yes, that would be really nice
[14:55] <th> ok - so i'll do a crystal-emu build with 486
[14:55] <raphael> 486 is very good, even better than PI because I need pkgs for 486 later on anyway as well
[14:55] <raphael> Thanks a lot, that would be great!!
[14:56] <th> no problem - bug me per email if you dont have that pre-release until friday
[14:56] <raphael> Will this build show up on iso.rocklinux.de ?
[14:56] <th> yes it will
[14:56] <raphael> ok, thanks a lot!
[14:56] <raphael> Does it have KDE 3.4 already?
[14:56] <th> yes
[14:56] <raphael> oh, wonderful :-)
[14:56] <th> ahh
[14:56] <th> stop
[14:56] <th> sorry
[14:56] <th> no.
[14:57] <raphael> Still 3.3.2?
[14:57] <th> yes.
[14:57] <raphael> That's FINE AS WELL!!
[14:57] <th> 3.3.2 is in 2.0-stable for only very few minutes
[14:57] <th> i just did the ocmmit
[14:57] <th> commit
[14:57] <raphael> :)
[14:57] <raphael> it's ok
[14:58] <raphael> (I prefer stable to new features, and KDE 3.4.0 has two particular issues I don't enjoy very much - one of them already fixed in CVS, hehe)
[15:00] <raphael> thanks Tobias, I took down a note and will contact you on Friday ;)
[15:00] <th> no problem...
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[15:55] <daja77> hi mnemoc 
[16:00] <mnemoc> hi daja77 
[16:00] <daja77> :)
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[21:16] <treo> hi
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