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[03:05] <am> what is rocklinux, in brief please
[03:06] <am> when i type /list the listing runs away densely packed Is there a way to ake run more slowly and more readable ??
[03:06] <am> when i type /list the listing runs away densely packed Is there a way to make it run more slowly and more readable ??
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[03:09] <am> silence is golden ?? leaving this channel now...
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[08:33] <blindcoder> moin
[10:32] <owl> moin
[10:33] <blindcoder> moin moin
[10:34] <owl> hi blindy
[11:04] <netrunner> fake: because my voice is going through the downstream and then out via isdn.
[11:05] <blindcoder> clifford: ping
[11:07] <clifford> pong.
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[11:08] <DLCool> Hi All
[11:09] <blindcoder> clifford: hi. Any thoughts on the subdomains?
[11:09] <blindcoder> moin DLCool 
[11:10] <owl> hi dlcool 
[11:13] <clifford> sonar.(...) and doc.(...) are fine. I did not understand the advantage of moving packages to a seperate subdomain so far - it is running on the same server.
[11:14] <blindcoder> clifford: it was an idea born from my first suggestion using packages.(...) instead of sonar. Fake mentioned that it might be better to use packages.(...) for the package list as it is now and place a link to sonar there
[11:16] <clifford> hmm.. ok. in fact I don't have much of an opinion on that topics (I just had a look on our homepage the first time in the last few months.)
[11:16] <blindcoder> clifford: I see. Well, the main thing is that th only accepts changeds to the zonefiles from you :)
[11:17] <clifford> i.c.
[11:17] Action: clifford feels powerfull now..  ;-)
[11:18] <blindcoder> heh :)
[11:18] <blindcoder> that reminds me, I should do the monthly report
[11:18] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:19] <blindcoder> after lunch :)
[11:19] <clifford> well there haven't been any objections on the issue - so here is my ok for sonar and doc: OK.
[11:19] <blindcoder> :)
[11:19] <clifford> (I'm also sending a mail to the list so it's documented there too)
[11:20] <blindcoder> okay, thanks
[11:21] Action: blindcoder --> lunch
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[11:30] <clifford> btw: I've now added abstracts ("Blindcoder's Rock Summary for <Month> <Year>.") to you monthy reports. - So the index at 'http://www.rocklinux.org/rolling.html' looks better..
[11:31] <netrunner> DLCool: hey man
[11:33] Action: netrunner slept in the worst dormitory you can imagine.
[12:01] <blindcoder> clifford: abstracts?
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[12:48] <clifford> blindcoder: in typo3 backend for the page -> page headers -> page-type: advanced -> abstract
[12:48] <clifford> that is the short text after the title on http://www.rocklinux.org/rolling.html
[12:51] Action: blindcoder looks
[12:52] <daja77> oh that mysql patch needs a rediff :)
[12:58] <blindcoder> clifford: I can't seem to find it. 
[12:58] <blindcoder> clifford: I see the advanced, but no abstract
[12:59] <clifford> did you change the page type to advanced?
[12:59] <blindcoder> yes
[12:59] <blindcoder> aah
[12:59] <blindcoder> found it :/
[12:59] <clifford> great.
[13:28] <th> clifford: still around?
[13:28] <clifford> yup.
[13:28] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/mirrors.html
[13:28] <th> Netherlands - ftp.nluug.nl (FTP)
[13:28] <th> last update: 08/07/04 06:16:16 UTC  
[13:28] <th> my mirror detection always selects that mirror for speed
[13:28] <th> and i'm always out of sync
[13:28] <th> could you please contact our contact?
[13:29] <clifford> did already a few times..
[13:29] <th> blindcoder: just tell me IP addresses i should set A records for.
[13:29] <clifford> I'm now going to silently remove some mirrors..
[13:29] <th> ok
[13:29] <th> but
[13:29] <th> some "Mirror unreachable." seem to be false alarms to me
[13:30] <th> not sure which one.....
[13:30] <th> but nluug is the most important - cause it acts working and is just old
[13:30] <clifford> which?
[13:30] <clifford> (i just checked all three)
[13:30] <th> 13:28:22 < th> Netherlands - ftp.nluug.nl (FTP)
[13:30] <th> 13:28:28 < th> last update: 08/07/04 06:16:16 UTC  
[13:30] <th> yea forget about the false alarms
[13:31] <th> i'll report later if it happens again
[13:31] <th> ATM they seem to be non-false-alarms
[13:31] <th> perhaps i'm all mistaken about it
[13:32] <daja77> clifford: that linux-2.6.10.patch of mysql tried to rename some functions that had the same name like kernel functions, right?
[13:34] <blindcoder> th: 213.239.220.170
[13:34] <th> for what names?
[13:34] <th> i'll do it now
[13:35] <blindcoder> th: sonar. and doc.
[13:35] <th> .{net,org}?
[13:36] <blindcoder> th: both I'd say, but .org is fine
[13:36] <clifford> th: mirror list updated.
[13:36] <th> done
[13:36] <th> clifford: thanks a lot :-)
[13:36] <blindcoder> thanks, will move the stuff later today when I'm at home
[13:36] <th> looks like we could need some more now
[13:37] Action: blindcoder only has 200GB per month traffic :(
[13:37] <blindcoder> I doubt that could satisfy a mirror
[13:37] <clifford> th: I don't think so. Looks like they are well distributed over the globe.
[13:37] <th> clifford: ok fine.
[13:37] <clifford> .. and the mirror autodetection shouldn't take ages too.
[13:38] <th> clifford: i could propably offer one in brazil ;)
[13:38] <th> clifford: yea really true. short list is better for auto-detection
[13:38] <clifford> brazil sound great.
[13:38] <th> how does the mirroring works?
[13:38] <th> mirrorers should just sync via rsync?
[13:38] <clifford> (at a 2nd glimpse they aren't well distributed at all..  ;-)
[13:38] <th> and mail the address to you?
[13:39] <clifford> yes.
[13:39] <th> very well.
[13:40] <th> timeshift is with me - my brazilian pal is online
[13:40] <th> clifford: rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linux/ROCK/  using this as master?
[13:40] <th> open rsync?
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[13:42] <th> hey nuba
[13:42] <nuba> hi th
[13:42] <clifford> th: yes.
[13:42] <th> clifford: introducing nuba - my brazilian pal
[13:42] <clifford> hi nuba!
[13:43] <th> nuba: rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linux/ROCK/ that's the URL
[13:43] <th> the master
[13:43] <nuba> clifford: so you're rocklinux's first stone ;)
[13:43] <th> first rock?
[13:43] <clifford> *lol* yes.
[13:44] <nuba> cool. nice to meet you.
[13:44] <nuba> th presented me to rocklinux a couple months ago
[13:45] <daja77> good job th :)
[13:45] <nuba> and said you could use some mirroring help
[13:45] <clifford> so you are the one single rock user out there? nice to meet you..
[13:45] <clifford> ;-)
[13:45] <clifford> yes: http://www.rocklinux.net/mirrors.html
[13:46] <clifford> this could need some "geographical balancing".
[13:47] <clifford> th ment you could provide a mirror in brazil.
[13:47] <nuba> yeah. that's where we got our server.
[13:48] <nuba> foco.fae.ufmg.br
[13:48] <th> nuba: that's at your university, right?
[13:48] <nuba> th: yes
[13:48] Action: clifford trying to pronounce that without the dots.
[13:48] <th> focofaeufmgbr
[13:48] <th> nice
[13:49] <daja77> O_o
[13:49] <clifford> sounds a little bit like klingon..  ;-)
[13:49] <th> yea
[13:50] <th> our first klingon mirror
[13:51] <nuba> how many gigs are we talking about moving around ?
[13:51] <clifford> I don't know about traffic.
[13:52] <th> lets observe traffic...
[13:52] <clifford> disk space is .. one moment ..
[13:53] <clifford> about 9 gig (right now)
[13:53] <nuba> ok for me
[13:53] <clifford> there is a script which auto-detects the fastest mirror
[13:54] <clifford> so - it really depends how many users will end up using your mirror..
[13:54] <clifford> ah.. end everyone who check for the fastest mirror will download a 64 kilobyte file.
[13:55] <nuba> ok
[13:55] <th> uhh 64kb file.
[13:55] <th> that's hard
[13:55] <th> nuba: can you university cope with that? ;-)
[13:56] <clifford> .. and it's improtant that all mirrors sync daily because we are adding stuff often.
[13:56] <nuba> i don't know... i'm ok with the 9gigs.. thing is these 64k....
[13:56] <nuba> heh
[13:56] <clifford> .. I think that's it.
[13:56] <clifford> *rotfl*
[13:56] <nuba> ok with the daily sync, that'll be cron's job
[13:57] <th> even twice daily should hardly add any traffic
[13:57] <clifford> great. so I don't need to write a cron job which sends you a daily reminder. ;-)
[13:57] <nuba> we're just migrating this server (foco) to a newer bigger faster stronger machine
[13:57] <nuba> should be done before may
[13:58] <nuba> so i'll set it up and let you know when it's working
[13:58] <clifford> great.
[13:58] <th> cool thing
[13:59] <blindcoder> someone make sure to drop a note to the mailinglist when it's done :)
[14:00] <th> must be cliff - he get's nuba's mail ;)
[14:02] <clifford> okok. i'll do it.
[14:02] <blindcoder> thanks :)
[14:06] <clifford> ok. I need to get some work done on the other virtual desktop now...
[14:08] <nuba> was on a phone call, sorry for the delay..
[14:09] <nuba> yeah i think that's about it. i
[14:25] <th> could we add a [D] line to linux24-src.desc?
[14:25] <th> identical to linux24's [D]?
[14:25] <th> or would that result in a problem
[14:25] <th> ATM it's not possible to build linux24-src without linux24 because of download only
[14:26] <daja77> th: you could download linux24 and build linux24-src then, no?
[14:26] <th> yes - but how should the target manage that?
[14:27] <th> Download -required would need linux24 to be X
[14:28] <th> hmm perhaps X but only dashes for all stages
[14:28] <daja77> ah for a target
[14:28] <th> i think i had a sed regexp for that somewhen
[14:29] <daja77> this problem should not be there in trunk?
[14:30] <daja77> iirc adding D to linux24-src would result in a double dload if linux24 is active as well
[14:30] <th> double download?
[14:30] <th> i thought about something like "already exists / matches"
[14:31] <th> 03.11.2004-13:16 < th>                / linux-24 /    { s/^[XO] ........... /X ----------/p; d; };
[14:31] <th> something like it
[14:31] <th> with s/linux-24/linux24/ fixed perhals
[14:31] <th> perhaps
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[16:02] <daja77> hm the sm patch command gives strange errors
[16:02] <daja77> >> ERROR Running 'svn diff -r 91:92 file:///scratch/rock-daja.sm/SVN/WORK > __patch.tmp' !!
[16:03] <daja77> ic the SVN/WORK dir does not exist
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[16:58] <blindcoder> clifford: lurker would need another update: one can't select 2005 in the "Jump to date" dialog
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