[00:04] <veki> OK, thanks anyway.  We can be in touch during discussions on this channel
[00:05] <daja77> yes of course, don't be disappointe it is idle sometimes
[00:06] <veki> OK, no problem. I am also busy .  During next week I do lecturing on Linux and audio applications and use of those applications.
[00:07] <daja77> nice
[00:08] <veki> maybe I see things oversimplified, but some distros re not so big deal as people would like to think.  Especially, having in mind that some packages are mature enough
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[08:22] <blindcoder> moin
[08:31] <netrunner> yes, moin.
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[08:53] <th> morning
[08:54] <blindcoder> moin th
[08:54] <blindcoder> hmm
[08:54] <blindcoder> anyone got experience with mutt and S/MIME?
[08:54] <th> blindcoder: there was some hacks i had to remind you after CLT
[08:54] <blindcoder> or can tell me how to create .smime/ca-bundle/crt?
[08:55] <th> i guess it was about package selection
[08:55] <blindcoder> oh
[08:55] <blindcoder> yes
[08:55] <blindcoder> I remember
[08:55] <blindcoder> the stuff about editing the pkgsel with ${EDITOR}
[08:55] <th> there where two of them
[08:55] <th> $EDITOR and a simple dialog to select every single package
[08:55] <th> IIRC
[08:55] <blindcoder> right...
[09:05] <blindcoder> okay, I can now read S/MIME mail
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[10:28] <owl> moin
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[10:29] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[10:35] <owl> hi blindcoder , clifford 
[10:52] <fake> moin
[10:54] <owl> hi fake 
[10:54] <blindcoder> moin fak	
[11:01] <owl> argh. going to doc now. bbl. bye.
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[11:04] <raphael> Hi th
[11:04] <raphael> the latest build you produced.... can you change the "year" in the directory name to 2005? Otherwise people might think it's quite outdated ;)
[11:05] <raphael> (on the ftp server)
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[12:02] <th> raphael: uhh
[12:03] <th> raphael: thanks.
[12:03] <th> raphael: done.
[12:03] <raphael> th, you're welcome... besides, I'm just about to "inject" the packages, stay tuned ;)   (probably 2 hours, since I am doing other stuff as well)
[12:04] <netrunner> damn stupid build server doesn't boot any more
[12:05] <SerWou> hello netrunner  ;)
[12:05] <netrunner> servus serwou 
[12:08] <raphael> uhm.... has anyone a statically built "mine"?
[12:08] <SerWou> the best way to grab the lastest way is with svn i guess ?
[12:09] <raphael> I can't build anything here since I only have FreeBSD, and ROCK doesn't build on FreeBSD
[12:14] <raphael> Can anyone send me a "mine" executable
[12:14] <raphael> probably need not even be statically linked
[12:17] <blindcoder> raphael: http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/mine
[12:18] <raphael> blindcoder, thanks a lot! I have downloaded it.
[12:20] <blindcoder> you're welcome
[12:39] Nick change: BoS -> BoS^afk
[12:59] <raphael> blindcoder, can you upload the mine utility again? I downloaded the html-page instead of the binary...
[12:59] <blindcoder> raphael: done
[13:00] <raphael> blindcoder, ok, thanks (downloaded it now, I'll see if it works...)
[13:04] <raphael> blindcoder, yep, that one works :)
[13:05] <blindcoder> okay, I'll remove it again
[13:14] <raphael> hmm... the dynamic "mine" binary fails with "Illegal instruction"... it probably has to be a statically linked mine
[13:15] <raphael> could anyone build a static mine version for me (please)?
[13:18] <blindcoder> what machine are you on?
[13:19] <raphael> that's an PI (without MMX, it has 133 MHz), it's an old IBM Thinkpad 760EL
[13:20] <blindcoder> oh
[13:20] <blindcoder> This binary is from a dual P3 :-)
[13:21] <raphael> ah, ok :)
[13:21] <raphael> so, maybe a dynamically linked one works as well, but has to be "optimized" for <= PI ?
[13:21] <blindcoder> indeed
[13:22] <blindcoder> give me a few minutes :)
[13:22] <raphael> I think you can also just extract from the i486 build th did some days ago
[13:23] <raphael> the mine package would be here... http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/2.0-stable/pre-release/pkgs-20050405-generic-crystal_emu-486/mine-0.18.gem
[13:23] <blindcoder> should also be fine
[13:23] <raphael> whatever you prefer :)
[13:24] <blindcoder> raphael: same location
[13:25] <raphael> ... downloaded, let's test...
[13:34] <raphael> blindcoder: system is now installing! I'm just watching it extracting all the files :) thanks a lot!!
[13:37] <SerWou> hello back
[13:37] <SerWou> is there a way to update gnome & co simply ?
[13:42] <blindcoder> raphael: you're welcome
[13:42] <blindcoder> SerWou: gnome is a bitch wrt. installing and updating. So the answer would be, no
[13:45] <SerWou> hum hum hum
[13:45] <SerWou> as i already saw ;)
[13:45] <SerWou> at least, gtk+
[13:56] <owl> re
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[16:32] <SerWou> you're right blindcoder , gnome is a fucking bitch
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[20:34] <owl> re
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