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[01:19] <GhosthacK`> hallo jemand da ?
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[08:30] <blindcoder> moin
[08:31] <blindcoder> fake: ping
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[08:49] <nookie> hi blindcoder 
[08:50] <blindcoder> moin nookie 
[10:08] <nookie> daja77: your mail came! :)
[10:08] <nookie> thank you very much! :))
[10:09] <daja77> huh that fast? 
[10:09] <nookie> ya
[10:09] <nookie> nice card :)
[10:09] <daja77> ^^
[10:15] <blindcoder> moin daja77 
[10:15] <daja77> moin blindy
[10:18] Action: netrunner asking again: there is a bunch of updates on my laptop.  I cannot test them in a full build. shall I submit them?
[10:19] <netrunner> s/?/anyway ?/
[10:21] <blindcoder> why can't you test them?
[10:22] <daja77> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/ ...
[10:22] <blindcoder> yeah, read that
[10:23] <netrunner> blindcoder: no time to supervise builds currently.
[10:23] <netrunner> blindcoder: and my build server has a broken leg.
[10:24] <blindcoder> I see
[10:24] <blindcoder> submit them and send a mail which patches you couldn't test and why
[10:25] <netrunner> hm. I'll ad a "tested only in 9" to the comments.
[10:26] <blindcoder> 9?
[10:26] <netrunner> stage
[10:27] <blindcoder> ah
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[10:33] <daja77> if he comes back, he has crystal on his machine ...
[10:33] <blindcoder> hehe
[10:33] <blindcoder> _if_ that is :)
[10:33] <daja77> :)
[10:33] Action: blindcoder trying to get a usable compile system running on a sparc64 machine
[10:34] <blindcoder> but the gentoo livecd sucks so much that it doesn't even boot :/
[10:34] <blindcoder> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/SunBlade1500/SunBlade1500.html
[10:34] <blindcoder> that's my current toy
[10:34] <daja77> 10:31 < blackov6> Current release series:  GCC 4.0.0 (released 2005-04-20)
[10:34] <daja77> 10:31 < blackov6> hmmm... ein "führer birthday release" ^^
[10:35] <blindcoder> heh
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[11:18] <blindcoder> anyone knows of a _working_ linux livecd with compiler for sparc64?
[11:26] <owl> moin
[12:01] <blindcoder> moin
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[12:33] <GhosthacK`> somebody here who can tell me how i should partition my hdd ?
[12:33] <blindcoder> sure
[12:33] <blindcoder> I recommend:
[12:33] <GhosthacK`> :)
[12:33] <blindcoder> part1: 128 MB /boot
[12:34] <blindcoder> part2: same as RAM swap
[12:34] <GhosthacK`> my HDD : 60 GIG !
[12:34] <blindcoder> part3: 20 GB /
[12:34] <blindcoder> part4: rest /home
[12:34] <blindcoder> that way you can keep your /home untouched when reinstalling (should that ever be necessary)
[12:34] <GhosthacK`> k
[12:35] <GhosthacK`> part2: same as RAM swap <--- how u mean that ?
[12:35] <blindcoder> If you have 512 MB RAM, make 512 MB swap
[12:35] <blindcoder> if you have 1 GB RAM, make 1GB swap
[12:35] <GhosthacK`> k
[12:35] <GhosthacK`> :D
[12:35] <blindcoder> how much RAM do you have?
[12:35] <GhosthacK`> 512
[12:35] <blindcoder> okay, then 512MB swap are fine
[12:36] <blindcoder> what machine are you installing on?
[12:36] <GhosthacK`> i totally new to rockL , my former systems were gentoo , debian , slackware
[12:36] <GhosthacK`> to my notebook
[12:36] <GhosthacK`> x86
[12:36] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[12:36] <blindcoder> I'm currntly working on sparc64
[12:36] <GhosthacK`> cool
[12:36] <GhosthacK`> another question is it important how they are sorted ?
[12:37] <blindcoder> partially
[12:37] <blindcoder> old bootloaders only booted from the first few MB of a harddisk
[12:38] <blindcoder> the layout above is just my personal preference
[12:38] <GhosthacK`> yes i did it like u sad
[12:40] <GhosthacK`> wich file system i use : boot : reiserfs / swap : swap / root : reiserfs / home : reiserfs <--- is this ok ?
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[12:40] <blindcoder> I prefer ext2 for /boot, have never tried another
[12:40] <blindcoder> but reiserfs should be fine
[12:40] <GhosthacK`> :)
[12:40] <blindcoder> it certainly is for everything else
[12:41] <GhosthacK`> ext2fs ?
[12:41] <blindcoder> yes
[12:41] <GhosthacK`> k
[12:41] <GhosthacK`> done :)
[12:41] <nookie> hey GhosthacK` 
[12:41] <nookie> :)
[12:41] <GhosthacK`> hi nookie :D
[12:42] <nookie> you are already running ROCK?
[12:42] <nookie> :)
[12:42] <GhosthacK`> war gestern noch bis 4:30 wach hab alles mal gelesn ueber rock etc. gefaellt mir gut
[12:42] <GhosthacK`> bin gerade am installen
[12:42] <nookie> schoen :)
[12:42] <nookie> ah
[12:42] <nookie> viel Spass :)
[12:42] <GhosthacK`> musste alle cd's erst laden
[12:42] <GhosthacK`> hehe thx
[12:42] <GhosthacK`> blindcoder helped me out a bit ;)
[12:42] <nookie> :)
[12:43] <blindcoder> GhosthacK`: you know about http://doc.rocklinux.org/ ?
[12:43] <nookie> yes, he knows :)
[12:43] <nookie> I told him yesterday
[12:44] <GhosthacK`> idd
[12:45] <GhosthacK`> but i just asked how skilled user like to part. their hdd :)
[12:45] <GhosthacK`> experienced ( skilled ) :p
[12:48] <blindcoder> ah, okay
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[12:57] <owl> hi freak 
[12:58] <daja77> nookie: what about your rocklinux
[12:59] <nookie> daja77: works fine
[13:00] <daja77> cool
[13:00] <nookie> :)
[13:00] <daja77> you are the first one I know testing this iso ^^
[13:00] <nookie> hehe
[13:00] <GhosthacK`> :D
[13:01] <nookie> daja77: that is why I wondered, when you sayed "I hope it works" :)
[13:01] <daja77> exactly
[13:01] <daja77> sorry had no time and hw to test it
[13:02] <nookie> np
[13:02] <nookie> as long, as it works on my machine
[13:02] <Freak> hi owl 
[13:03] <daja77> hey Freak ;)
[13:03] <Freak> my client is missconfigured, or at least I didn't update the configuration, because actually I left this chan intentionally yesterday...
[13:03] <Freak> nothing personal, just cutting down on idlechans :)
[13:03] <Freak> hi daja77 
[13:04] <daja77> hehe yeah did that too recently
[13:11] Action: blindcoder building Sparc64 livecd
[13:11] <GhosthacK`> ;)
[13:11] <daja77> cool
[13:12] <blindcoder> daja77: well, it will need tweaks and stuff, mostly because I don't think it has a bootloader setup for sparc64
[13:13] <daja77> livecd for hppa is far back on my todo, guess a crystal build with 4.0 will be first ;)
[13:15] <blindcoder> heh
[13:16] <blindcoder> well, sadly I didn't get gentoo to boot on the 1500
[13:16] <blindcoder> so now I'm using a 150 for it
[13:16] <blindcoder> and even getting it to boot on the 150 was a pain
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[13:17] <blindcoder> boot from old 1.4 cd, start silo, during second stage silo insert new 1004.3 cd, continue boot process manually
[13:17] <blindcoder> 2004.3
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[13:39] <Freak> okay boys n girls, I'm leaving (again) now, but I'm still on the network, so in the improbable case you'd like to *bother* me with some stuff, dont hesitate. buh-buhye.
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[13:44] <fake> blindcoder: kuhl!
[13:44] <blindcoder> fake: isn't it :)
[13:44] <blindcoder> well, let's see how far it goes
[13:44] <blindcoder> there's no squashfs in gentoos kernel, for starters
[13:56] <owl> is there something like "raster" in ms project 2000?
[13:58] <clifford> owl: I don't know, but the english word for "raster" is "grid" - if that helps..
[13:59] <daja77> clifford: would it be possible to build crystal with gcc 4.0 or would it be sorted out because of a missing core flag or sth?
[14:01] <clifford> daja77: the shouldn't be a problem. why? did you encounter one?
[14:01] <owl> clifford: thx. sorry. doesn't help... (german project... )
[14:01] <owl> hi clifford btw 
[14:01] <daja77> clifford: nope I'd thought of trying it over the weekend as idle task ;)
[14:02] <clifford> i.c. let me know the results.
[14:02] <clifford> hi owl, btw. ;-)
[14:07] <fake> blindcoder: not needed
[14:07] <fake> blindcoder: only the userland tools
[14:07] <blindcoder> fake: but it needs the squashfs tools or the build won't start
[14:07] <fake> blindcoder: right.
[14:08] <clifford> fake: do you have time today to write the postinstall stuff with me?
[14:08] <fake> clifford: i'm in Ingolstadt, www.fading-dimensions.de
[14:08] <blindcoder> fake: why don't you just use the userland tools from the build?
[14:09] <fake> blindcoder: can't remember now, just woke up, need coffee first. think i had a reason.
[14:09] <clifford> fake: i.c. when will you be back?
[14:10] <fake> clifford: sunday evening
[14:10] <daja77> somwhow I am off from development atm :/
[14:11] <fake> clifford: but what do you need me for? overcomeing your mental barrier in-place since december?
[14:11] <fake> ;-)
[14:12] <clifford> yes. exactly.
[14:12] <daja77> O_o
[14:12] <fake> clifford: then consider me virtually-present.
[14:12] <clifford> i'm afraid that wouldn't work..
[14:13] <fake> clifford: i'm sure, once you start coding, you'll notice it's not such a big deal.
[14:14] <daja77> that's what I thought yesterday too ;)
[14:14] <clifford> I *know* that it is not such a big deal.
[14:15] <fake> clifford: maybe a constant replay of all the phrases of jaja bings from episode one will trick you into thinking i'm there ;-)
[14:16] <daja77> hehe evil
[14:16] <clifford> I mean: I've just implemented exception handling support in my own scripting language - there is no technical problem for me to implement postinstall scripts support in rock. but somehow I don't get over it..
[14:16] <fake> anyways, i've got to trick those 3com superstack bitches to use their QoS skillz for dropping DHCP Replies from any but 2 ports now...
[14:17] <fake> ... headaches ...
[14:17] <fake> cya later, clifford: good luck!
[14:17] <clifford> cya
[14:18] Action: daja77 doesn't see the error in a simple perl skript, I am screwed today
[14:18] <blindcoder> clifford: play some nethack, realize how much you suck at it compared to me, then get to coding and make me feel how much I suck at it compared to you :)
[14:19] <clifford> blindcoder: http://www.clifford.at/spl/
[14:19] <clifford> .. that should do it.
[14:19] <clifford> ;-)
[14:21] <blindcoder> :P
[14:21] <daja77> will the rocklinux pages be spl powered? ;)
[14:21] Action: blindcoder goes back to his half million points tourist
[14:30] <blindcoder> hmpf
[14:30] <blindcoder> can't download postfix :(
[14:31] <GhosthacK`> blindcoder?
[14:31] <blindcoder> not on the mirrors and original not reachable
[14:31] <GhosthacK`> when i start rocklinux screen gettin dark and i cant see something
[14:31] <GhosthacK`> i think its before login appears
[14:31] <blindcoder> GhosthacK`: did you set up X?
[14:31] <clifford> daja77: we don't have any web applications (besides sm and flyspray, which predate spl)
[14:32] <GhosthacK`> ya , but how can i do it again ?
[14:32] <GhosthacK`> bootin cd and then ?
[14:32] <blindcoder> GhosthacK`: no need for cd
[14:32] <blindcoder> GhosthacK`: just add '2' as a boot parameter (without the backticks)
[14:38] Action: blindcoder doing a cluster build of crystal for p3
[14:38] <blindcoder> sparc64 livecd at 1-glibc23
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[15:05] <daja77> hm interesting when i choose gcc options in config the lvm options are opened ...
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[15:22] <clifford> daja77: maybe the menues have the same name for some reason?
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[15:24] <blindcoder> 1-glibc23 breaks :/
[15:25] <daja77> blindcoder: no surprise somehow
[15:25] <blindcoder> ../sysdeps/sparc/sparc64/soft-fp/qp_mul.c:37: warning: left shift count >= width of type
[15:25] <daja77> clifford: i'll looj
[15:25] <daja77> I hope we can upgrade glibc soon
[15:26] <blindcoder> guess I'll have to use 32 bit userland after all
[15:26] <daja77> clifford: exactly the lvm-wrapper menu is called MENU_COMPILER as the gcc one is
[15:27] <blindcoder> guess I'll try 2.3.5
[15:28] <clifford> daja77: do you make a patch for it?
[15:28] <daja77> i did
[15:29] <daja77> unfornuately sm is not working anymore on this machine
[15:29] <daja77> will do it from another
[15:29] <clifford> ..or just upload the patch file using the web interface.
[15:29] <blindcoder> or use the rock_commit_patch script :)
[15:30] <daja77> clifford: perhaps you know why I am getting this
[15:30] <daja77> bash-2.05b# sm patch 23
[15:30] <daja77> Dumping diff for revision 23 ...
[15:30] <daja77> >> ERROR Running 'svn diff -r 22:23 file:///scratch/rock-daja.sm/SVN/WORK > __patch.tmp' !!
[15:30] <daja77> even when i recreate
[15:36] <daja77> clifford: ok checked that, it is ok in trunk, it was introduced in 2005041315453810917 ;)
[15:38] <blindcoder> clifford: shame on you :)
[15:39] <daja77> hm I'd like to send an incremental patch ...
[15:39] <clifford> oups!  ;-)
[15:39] <daja77> ;)
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[15:42] <daja77> oh ic svn coredumps when -r argument is used ^^
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[18:04] <netrunner> wonderful. I have 2 dect phones, and the house ate both.
[18:56] <blindcoder> heh
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