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[11:00] <markuman> what is with panasonic touchbooks....does anybody knows if the touchscreen works with linux?
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[11:43] <blokkie> does  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/discs/disc0/disc   delete the entire partition table  and not just the data on the disc ? 
[11:43] <blokkie> I have a HD wich has BSD on it .. I've used rocklinux cd to repartition it  but it still lists a bsd slice 
[12:00] <blindcoder> yes
[12:00] <blindcoder> deletes everything
[12:00] <blindcoder> though a few MB should be fine for killing the partition table
[12:01] <blokkie> well , there is a pesky 1mb BSD slice which I cannot get rid of 
[12:02] <blindcoder> just do the dd and wait a bit
[12:02] <blindcoder> then ^C it, reboot and look again
[12:02] <blokkie> no go , I tried it 
[12:02] <blokkie> cfdisk and fdisk still list it
[12:02] <blindcoder> cfdisk can't get rid of it?
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[12:03] <blokkie> when I print the table .. it's one , but stone  still shows it 
[12:03] <blokkie> s/one/gone/
[12:04] <blokkie> well .. rock is installin now 
[12:06] <blindcoder> sorry for the lag, I'm preparing lunch right now
[12:06] <blindcoder> well, if it's only 1 MB I wouldn't mind that much
[12:09] Action: blokkie nods ,  but I want to have a clean  system :-)
[12:12] Action: blindcoder having lunch
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[14:00] <owl> moin
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[16:26] <centrinia> is it possible to compile Generic or Crystal or LiveCD with a Rescue bootdisk and a Gentoo partition?
[16:27] <blindcoder> yes
[16:27] <centrinia> yay, so i just burn this 31MB ISO to a CD-RW and then use it to compile real stuff?
[16:27] <blindcoder> what arch do you want to compile for?
[16:28] <centrinia> Pentium 4
[16:28] <blindcoder> eep
[16:28] <blindcoder> I advise against P4
[16:28] <centrinia> P4 -> P4
[16:28] <blindcoder> use P3 instead
[16:28] <centrinia> why?
[16:28] <blindcoder> P4 is known to be broken with some apps
[16:28] <centrinia> so i should use generic in the optimization?
[16:28] <blindcoder> no, use P3
[16:28] <centrinia> okay
[16:28] <centrinia> thanks :)
[16:29] <blindcoder> you're welcome
[16:29] <blindcoder> I've cursed a lot myself when buliding for P4 :/
[16:29] <centrinia> Rock Linux is better than Gentoo's Catalyst IMHO :)
[16:30] <blindcoder> that's nice to hear, though I never used gentoo myself
[16:31] <centrinia> i got two Slot A Athlons and i want to use one for development testing, i was thinking that Rock Linux would be nice because i can just load up a custom distribution for the current project
[16:32] <centrinia> but i use Gentoo for my primary development
[16:32] <blindcoder> yes, though documentation on creating custom distribution is scarce right now
[16:33] <centrinia> well, not a complete distribution, just enough to compile stuff and have the network running
[16:33] <centrinia> i don't need an editor even :)
[16:33] <centrinia> can Rock make a system that i can load through a bootp?
[16:34] <blindcoder> you mean root on nfs?
[16:34] <centrinia> yeah
[16:35] <blindcoder> sure
[16:35] <centrinia> well, i perfer other network filesystems
[16:35] <blindcoder> just have to set up dhcp, grub and nfs accordingly
[16:35] <blindcoder> there's no "wizard"-thingie doing it for you, though
[16:36] <centrinia> oh, that's okay, i don't like wizards anyways
[16:36] <blindcoder> brb, gotta vacuum the flat
[16:36] <centrinia> see you later, and thanks :)
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[16:41] <centrinia> wow, most of you guys are Rock developers :O :)
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[16:57] <blindcoder> yeah, that's why we're flocking together in here ;)
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[18:53] <blindcoder> Error logs from crystal5922p3-TRUNK-x86-pentium3-32-crystal:
[18:53] <blindcoder>  [3] base/modutils                       [5] base/at
[18:53] <blindcoder>  [5] base/quota                          
[18:53] <blindcoder> :(
[18:55] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:55] <blindcoder> quota and modutils have shared files and at complains about no mail command specified
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[21:43] <owl> huhu
[21:44] <blindcoder> moin
[21:44] <owl> hi blindy :)
[21:45] <blindcoder> moin hamsterbacke
[21:48] <owl> *g* heh, my "weissheitszaehne" weren't removed shortly... (cuz i don't have them anymore) :p
[21:48] <blindcoder> but you have hamsters
[21:48] <blindcoder> and when you eat them your cheeks will grow
[21:48] <blindcoder> so hamsterback :)
[21:49] <owl> blll :P i'm not going to eat my hamsters, but my two budgies
[21:49] <blindcoder> an guadn
[21:49] <owl> and - god - repairing networkcables is my death! 
[21:49] <blindcoder> huhu
[21:49] <blindcoder> hehe
[21:49] <blindcoder> just buf new ones
[21:49] <owl> thx :) *mampf* *removing feathers*
[21:50] <nookie> hehe blindcoder 
[21:50] <owl> hehehehe. too expensive. bought a set of rj45/other-stecker & crimp-zange & network-cable-tester
[21:50] <nookie> I asked her yesterday too, if she ate her hamsters
[21:50] <nookie> :)
[21:50] <owl> well. now my cable hase nose again
[21:50] <blindcoder> nookie: great minds, huh?
[21:50] <nookie> heh
[21:50] <nookie> yes 
[21:51] <blindcoder> owl: ehm... IIRC 5 cat5 cables are cheaper than one krimp-zange
[21:51] <nookie> I like wireless networks ;)
[21:51] <blindcoder> indeed
[21:51] <blindcoder> 100 meters of wireless lan cable are _really_ cheap
[21:51] <owl> blindcoder: nah. the whole set (with 4 x 10 stecker & cable-tester & crimp-zange): 29,99 EUR
[21:52] <nookie> blindcoder: yeah
[21:52] <blindcoder> owl: see ;-)
[21:52] <blindcoder> 5 cables: around 20 EUR
[21:52] <owl> *lol* i don't like wlan all the time. it's not yet very tested (especially the health issues)
[21:52] <blindcoder> oh, no
[21:52] <nookie> hmm
[21:52] <blindcoder> please tell me that you are _not_ believing this shit?
[21:52] <nookie> was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich nur haerter. :)
[21:53] <nookie> btw. owl 
[21:53] <blindcoder> when DECT came out noone complained
[21:53] <nookie> your "microwelle" has the same "signastaerke"
[21:53] <owl> blindcoder: well. i'm having "migraene" every time when wlan is turned on... 
[21:53] <owl> DECT - ack. but i know why i have a phone with cables :p
[21:53] <blindcoder> but by now it's proven that DECT radiation is several times worse than GSM or 802.11
[21:53] <blindcoder> Einbildung macht die Leute krank.
[21:54] <nookie> what is DECT?
[21:54] <owl> blindcoder: nack. 
[21:54] <blindcoder> I have a DECT, two mobiles, a 802.11g access point, a 802.11b centrino and a 802.11g card in my play machine
[21:54] <blindcoder> nookie: portable POTS phones
[21:54] <blindcoder> I have a DCF77 clock next to my bed
[21:54] <nookie> yesterday I dreamed
[21:55] <nookie> that I get "pickel" from wlan
[21:55] <nookie> :D
[21:55] <owl> DCF77?
[21:55] <blindcoder> I rarely ever have a headache (when I wasn't drinking the night before, at least)
[21:55] <blindcoder> and I sleep like a baby
[21:55] <nookie> I sleep bad
[21:55] <blindcoder> so much for health issues
[21:55] <nookie> hmm
[21:55] <blindcoder> mount a GSM antennae on my roof any day!
[21:55] <nookie> when I got my AP
[21:55] <nookie> I had about 1 week headache
[21:55] <blindcoder> owl: Funkuhren
[21:55] <nookie> but then it stopped
[21:56] <owl> blindcoder: ah. ok. well. they're all removed. 
[21:56] <blindcoder> owl: so? you still have the dcf77 radiation
[21:56] <blindcoder> you still have the radiation from gsm antennae
[21:56] <owl> blindcoder: well. then you can be lucky not to have this stuff... 
[21:56] <blindcoder> and you still have the radiation from your neighbors' 802.11
[21:57] <owl> blindcoder: yeah. which is - often - turned off. 
[21:57] <blindcoder> so he pulls the plug on his AP?
[21:57] <owl> blindcoder: nah. here is no wlan ;) my neighbour left is about 60 years, right is about 40 years and the others ... 
[21:58] <blindcoder> well, I have at least three 802.11 here including mine
[21:58] <owl> you're in berlin :p
[21:58] <blindcoder> so?
[21:58] <nookie> you should move to tyrol
[21:58] <blindcoder> is the radiation less just because I'm a few latitudes north?
[21:59] <nookie> :)
[21:59] <owl> i'm in heinrichsheim. heh - i'm glad to have isdn availbe since 2000 and now since 2005 dsl-light
[21:59] <owl> nookie: nah. mallorca ;)
[21:59] <blindcoder> I might soon be able to get 16 MBit DSL :D
[21:59] <nookie> I don't like mallorca
[21:59] <nookie> too much german people
[21:59] <nookie> too much german alcoholics :)
[21:59] <blindcoder> which would suck, because I need to upgrade my 802.11b in my laptop then :/
[22:00] <owl> nookie: where were you at malle?
[22:00] <nookie> I never was in Mallorca
[22:00] <owl> btw, greetings from calypso
[22:00] <nookie> but I think most parts of it are like this
[22:01] <owl> lol.  then you just know the tv-side of malle ;)
[22:01] <nookie> he greets #rocklinux?
[22:01] <nookie> nice :)
[22:01] <nookie> well
[22:01] <owl> which is quite opposite from real mallorca.
[22:01] <nookie> hmm
[22:01] <owl> yeah, she greets #rocklinux ;)
[22:01] <nookie> s/he/she ;)
[22:02] <nookie> calypso sounds very male
[22:02] <owl> i dunno. it jsut was the name i tughout first of... and it fits perfectly to her
[22:02] <blindcoder> mv blindcoder /dev/bed
[22:02] <blindcoder> bye
[22:02] <nookie> good night blindcoder 
[22:02] <owl> gn8 blindcoder 
[22:02] <nookie> sleep well :)
[22:03] <owl> wiuah. she's sitting on my neck. help
[22:05] <nookie> owl: I think canada is a nice country too
[22:05] <nookie> but it may be cold there
[22:06] <owl> nookie: hmm. dunno. never went to canada... so i don't know how it's there and how the people are
[22:06] <owl> but i'm missing spain/malle very much... :(
[22:06] <nookie> I was in Teneriffa once
[22:06] <nookie> but I was too young to remember
[22:06] <nookie> it think Africa is cool too
[22:07] <owl> i c. yeah, teneriffa is nice, but the people's mentality is much different and so...
[22:07] <owl> yeah. it looked great (when flying over it)
[22:08] <nookie> ah
[22:09] <nookie> this year I'll fly to turkey
[22:09] <nookie> the 3rd time
[22:09] <nookie> it's cool there
[22:09] <nookie> very hot
[22:09] <nookie> and all you can eat buffet :)
[22:09] <owl> well... i will upload the fotos of malle asap, ok? ;)
[22:09] <owl> wuah. nah :) that's too much to eat ;)
[22:09] <nookie> okay
[22:09] <nookie> hehe
[22:09] <owl> we have in the hotel (concord) HP with buffet. 
[22:10] <nookie> in Spain HP is okay
[22:10] <nookie> there you can eat everywhere
[22:10] <nookie> but in Turkey not
[22:10] <nookie> otherwise you get verdauungsprobleme
[22:10] <owl> O_o 
[22:10] <nookie> in Turkey you can just eat in the hotel
[22:11] <nookie> because the food isn't clean outside of the hotel
[22:11] <owl> oh goth. nothing for me then :)
[22:11] <nookie> hehe
[22:11] <owl> hm?
[22:11] <nookie> when I was in Dominican Republica
[22:11] <nookie> I went to a "McDonalds" on the beach
[22:11] <nookie> we have a little house in Punta Cana
[22:11] <nookie> it's funny there
[22:11] <owl> punta cana?
[22:12] <nookie> he just had to bestellen the breads for the hamburgers
[22:12] <nookie> yeah
[22:12] <owl> O_o 
[22:12] <owl> how comes?
[22:12] <nookie> I guess nobody ate there
[22:12] <nookie> but it was cool there
[22:12] <nookie> but too much riffs in the water
[22:13] <nookie> reef
[22:13] <owl> i c.
[22:13] <nookie> at least at the place, where we hve our house
[22:15] <owl> i c. hmm. about 200 metres far away from the hotel there is a reef too... and a more or less "felsenkueste"... with parts of beach (which are great to do horseback-riding at)... and between our hotel and the next village are about 15 km just of nature :)
[22:17] <nookie> ah
[22:17] <nookie> nice
[22:17] <nookie> :)
[22:17] <owl> yeah. :) this is the real mallorca :p
[22:18] <nookie> hehe
[22:19] <owl> btw, our hotel: http://www.hotelbewertungen.net/openhotelguide.php?hotl=2414 | http://www.hotelesferrer.com/
[22:20] <nookie> I'll check
[22:20] <owl> oki :) thx
[22:21] <nookie> owl: very good ratings
[22:21] <nookie> from the persons
[22:22] <owl> ack. :) well - we (my parents and me) went to the hotel about 4 or 5 times... last year with my bf too... and this year, too ;) we're knowing the hotel since about 13 - 15 years... and it was always great
[22:23] <nookie> oh
[22:23] <nookie> that's pretty much :)
[22:23] <nookie> I wrote a hotelreport once
[22:23] <nookie> I can show you
[22:23] <nookie> if you want :)
[22:24] <nookie> http://www.ciao.de/Cornelia_Deluxe_Resort_Belek__Test_2846239 
[22:28] <owl> hehe. yes, it is. :)
[22:29] <nookie> :)
[22:29] <owl> wuah, 5 *? O_o
[22:32] <nookie> yes
[22:32] <nookie> my mother pays
[22:32] <nookie> not me
[22:32] <nookie> :)
[22:32] <nookie> i was not that expensive
[22:32] <owl> yeah, but it must be very "vornehm"?
[22:32] <nookie> only 1100EUR
[22:32] <nookie> hm
[22:33] <nookie> there were much russian people
[22:33] <nookie> the wifes of the russian men went to "abendbuffet" with hotpants.
[22:33] <nookie> that did not look very "vornehm" ;)
[22:33] <owl> lol-ok :)
[22:33] <nookie> but it was great hotel
[22:33] <nookie> I wish I were there longer then a week
[22:34] <owl> well in ost 5* hotels you have to wear "anzug und krawatte"
[22:34] <owl> hhehehe. yes 1 eek is aloways too short
[22:35] <nookie> yeah
[22:35] <nookie> 3 weeks are too long
[22:35] <nookie> 1 week is too short
[22:35] <nookie> 2 weeks are perfect
[22:35] <nookie> imo
[22:36] <owl> nah, there is no "too long" :p
[22:40] <nookie> owl: http://www.urlaubsbilder-online.de/data/images/4/1092596509.jpg
[22:40] <nookie> harrr
[22:40] <nookie> check all the cakes :)
[22:42] <nookie> I will get fat after holiday
[22:42] <nookie> I'll be fat after holiday
[22:42] <owl> hehehehe. looks like in "hotel barlovento"/fuerteventura
[22:43] <nookie> hehe
[22:44] <owl> hm?
[22:45] <nookie> hehe = ok :)
[22:46] <owl> ahso
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[23:16] <owl> hi centrinia 
[23:16] <centrinia> hi owl :)
[23:18] <nookie> hi centrinia 
[23:18] <centrinia> hi nookie :)
[23:18] <nookie> :)
[23:19] <nookie> are you the sister of centrino? :)
[23:19] <centrinia> no, Centrinia is the name of by project
[23:19] <nookie> ok :)
[23:19] <centrinia> but i might have to deal with Intel in the future, unfortunately
[23:20] <nookie> wow
[23:20] <nookie> that sounds cool :)
[23:20] <nookie> what exactly is centrinia?
[23:20] <centrinia> it is a math library
[23:20] <centrinia> i plan to make a Mathematica work-a-like
[23:21] <nookie> ahh
[23:21] <nookie> alright
[23:22] <centrinia> right now, i'm collecting Mersenne Twister parameters, an MT is a very random Pseudo-Random Number Generator
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