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[07:53] <blindcoder> moin
[11:03] <owl> moin
[11:04] <blindcoder> moin owl
[11:04] <owl> hi blindcoder 
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[13:36] <madtux> hello.
[13:39] <owl> hi madtux 
[13:40] <madtux> Eule!
[13:40] <madtux> :)
[13:40] <owl> Miguel ;)
[13:40] <owl> how are you?
[13:40] <madtux> i am great my friend... and how are you?
[13:41] <owl> bored. i'm writing documentation *yawns*
[13:41] <madtux> oh that sucks... big time
[13:41] <owl> ack ;)
[13:43] <blindcoder> moin madtux!
[13:43] <madtux> blind brother!
[13:44] <madtux> how are you doing?
[13:44] <madtux> ping [anders-mcafee], 
[13:45] <blindcoder> fine, thanks
[13:45] <blindcoder> quite a quiet day today :)
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[14:40] <[anders-mcafee]> madtux: pong
[14:46] <clifford> dir/ls in a directory with 100k files: on Win2k 3min / on Linux less than 1 sec
[14:47] <blindcoder> clifford: we don't need any more windows/linux benchmarks. We know linux is better. It can do infinite loops in 4 seconds.
[14:47] <blindcoder> (I think Linus said that last part)
[14:47] Action: clifford working on a win port of http://oss.linbit.com/csync2/
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[14:48] <clifford> .. and for that I _neeeeeeed_ fast directory scans.  :-(
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[14:48] <blindcoder> guess you'll have to roll your own then
[14:48] <blindcoder> that reminds me...
[14:48] Action: blindcoder checks the status of the patch cluster
[14:48] <[anders-mcafee]> bah.. ^W in XChat did not do what I thought it did..
[14:49] <blindcoder> [anders-mcafee]: didn't close the window?
[14:49] <blindcoder> WEE! installation is done
[14:49] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: it closed the tab I was in, i.e. this #
[14:50] <blindcoder> well, that's what I'd expect from ^W
[14:50] <[anders-mcafee]> I thought it would delete word (as a normal emacs command should)
[14:50] <[anders-mcafee]> works on the command line, why not in XChat?
[14:52] <blindcoder> because xchat!=shell
[14:52] <blindcoder> ^W closes a tab in mozilla/firefox, too
[14:53] <blindcoder> and doesn't delete a word in the current textarea
[14:53] <[anders-mcafee]> blindcoder: your point being? ;-)
[14:54] <[anders-mcafee]> brb
[14:57] <clifford> http://www.clifford.at/gallery/2005-carcrash/22_G
[14:58] Action: clifford is soooo sad because of that...
[15:00] <blindcoder> whoops
[15:00] <blindcoder> what have you done?
[15:00] <clifford> I killed my car.
[15:00] <blindcoder> as in I didn't like it anymore because it was a bitch so I rammed it against the nearest wall?
[15:01] <clifford> more as in "I'm dumb! dumb! dumb! dumb! ..."
[15:01] <blindcoder> oh...
[15:02] <blindcoder> yeah, I know that feeling
[15:02] <blindcoder> crashed my car around 2 years ago, too :/
[15:02] <clifford> I lost control on splashy street and crashed into a traffic light.
[15:03] <clifford> I really love(d) that car. The longest relationship I've ever had.
[15:04] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:04] <blindcoder> well, I didn't look at the traffic and hit the car in front of me
[15:04] <blindcoder> on the autobahn at less than 20 km/h
[15:04] <blindcoder> repairing the car would then have cost more than the scrap metal was worth
[15:05] <blindcoder> because the "Anhaengerkupplung" of the person in front of me literally crashed everything :(
[15:08] <clifford> I was looking about two years for my car..
[15:08] <blindcoder> o_O
[15:08] <owl> what car was it. 
[15:08] <owl> hi clifford 
[15:09] <blindcoder> mazda mx-5
[15:09] <blindcoder> you can see that on the photos
[15:09] <daja77> d'oh that car rocked
[15:09] <owl> and - a traffic light causes such things? O_o
[15:09] <owl> ah. there. sorry. blindness...
[15:09] <clifford> an MX-5, first year of construction, original red lacquer, nardi steering-wheel, ..
[15:10] <blindcoder> clifford: estimated repair-cost?
[15:10] Action: fake is proud he had the chance to drive it
[15:10] <blindcoder> well, my car takes me from a to b :-)
[15:11] <clifford> the bar of the traffic light cut thru the frame.
[15:11] <owl> woho. http://www.clifford.at/gallery/2005-carcrash/25_G looks like my bf's car after crash with an rabbit...
[15:11] Action: [anders-mcafee] is quite happy with the VW Golf VR6 he has
[15:12] <blindcoder> owl: at what speed?
[15:12] <[anders-mcafee]> a BMW 328Ci discovered that not all Golf's are slow.. :-))
[15:12] <blindcoder> I'm happy with my Seat Ibiza :)
[15:12] <owl> blindcoder: about 100 km/h
[15:12] <blindcoder> I see
[15:12] <owl> (was on "landstrasse"... near lichtenau->b16)
[15:12] <owl> and /me is glad to have a vw golf III ;)
[15:13] <[anders-mcafee]> only thing I was really unhappy with on the Mk3 Golf is the headlights..
[15:13] <[anders-mcafee]> the Mk4 headlights are much better..
[15:14] <owl> [anders-mcafee]: y? 
[15:14] <owl> [anders-mcafee]: and how many PS does your golf has?
[15:14] <[anders-mcafee]> the Mk3 headlights are much dimmer than the Mk4 ones.. don't ask me why, but several people I have spoken with here in UK have said the same
[15:14] <[anders-mcafee]> owl: I have 174 bhp
[15:15] <owl> bhp? O_o
[15:15] <[anders-mcafee]> dunno what the ratio for BHP <-> PS is... :-/
[15:15] <owl> hm. ok. 
[15:17] <[anders-mcafee]> 174 BHP is 130kW :)
[15:17] <owl> 1 ps is about 98,6& of one bhp :p
[15:17] <[anders-mcafee]> ok
[15:18] <owl> aeh %
[15:18] <[anders-mcafee]> so 100 PS is 98.6 BHP ?
[15:18] <daja77> clifford: do you have a minute?
[15:19] <[anders-mcafee]> in that case I have 176.5 PS
[15:19] <owl> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pferdest%C3%A4rke#Englische_bhp <- simpler :p
[15:19] <owl> yeah, must be correct :p
[15:20] <owl> well... my golf just has 90 PS :p
[15:20] <blindcoder> my ibiza has 100 :-)
[15:20] <[anders-mcafee]> :)
[15:20] <blindcoder> and that is more than enough
[15:21] <[anders-mcafee]> I have about 234 Nm torque as well
[15:21] <[anders-mcafee]> which is very very nice to have
[15:22] <blindcoder> I don't even know what that means :)
[15:22] <blindcoder> but taht reminds me that I have to change my tires...
[15:22] <owl> blindcoder: still "snow tires"?
[15:23] <blindcoder> wintertires, yes
[15:23] <owl> mfg. how can you drive with them quite now? O_o aren't they "schwammig"?
[15:24] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:25] <[anders-mcafee]> http://www.onlineconversion.com
[15:25] <netrunner> actually they're called "mud and snow tires", and there's still some mud around :)
[15:25] <blindcoder> I don't know what you mean with schwammig, but they loose grip regularly
[15:25] <daja77> netrunner: hehe
[15:25] <blindcoder> at least when accelerating at a traffic light :)
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[15:25] <blindcoder> but that needn't be related to the tires alone
[15:25] Action: [anders-mcafee] regularly lose grip on tarmac in the middle of summer with summer tires if there is a bit of rain
[15:26] <centrinia> where are clifford's 2.1 ISOs? :-/
[15:26] <blindcoder> guess I shouldn't press down on the speed pedal that fast
[15:26] <[anders-mcafee]> one of the problems with a powerful car
[15:26] <blindcoder> centrinia: I don't know if clifford has done any recently but I just uploaded a crystal iso some days ago: ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/unofficial/blindcoder/crystal/crystal5922p3_cd1.iso
[15:27] <centrinia> ooo, nice :) thanks
[15:27] <owl> netrunner: where? afield? 
[15:27] <centrinia> 5922 :D
[15:27] <blindcoder> centrinia: yes, that's the subversion revision number
[15:27] <blindcoder> centrinia: It's p3 optimised, though
[15:27] <centrinia> okay, i have a p4
[15:27] <clifford> daja77: yepp!
[15:27] <blindcoder> perfect :)
[15:28] <blindcoder> that's what I'm going to install it on on the weekend, too
[15:28] <centrinia> is it okay if i download it? i don't want to hog up too much of your bandwidth if you don't want me to
[15:29] <blindcoder> heh
[15:29] <blindcoder> iso.rocklinux.de is dedicated to hosting our isos :)
[15:29] <centrinia> cool
[15:29] <centrinia> thanks
[15:29] <blindcoder> just go ahead
[15:31] <owl> well. drive-test - now. brb
[15:33] <centrinia> this might be a pentium 4 only problem, but are there any problems with compiling groff in the boot, rescue, system config?
[15:33] <centrinia> i get a signal 11 everytime i compile groff
[15:34] <blindcoder> P4 only
[15:34] <blindcoder> that's why you don't compile stuff for P4 :)
[15:34] <blindcoder> but for P3
[15:34] <centrinia> yeah, only on the pentium 4
[15:34] <blindcoder> the difference is marginal
[15:34] <centrinia> i'll try P3 when i get home :)
[15:35] <centrinia> by the way, what's wrong with the P4 optimization profile?
[15:35] <centrinia> i am quite happy with -march=pentium4 in Gentoo :)
[15:36] <blindcoder> that'S a good question without an answer at this time
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[16:30] <fake> clifford: ping
[16:30] <clifford> pong!
[16:30] <daja77> he lives ;)
[16:31] <fake> <gamer>"hey, my ping is super!"</gamer>
[16:38] <fake> sowohl als auch.
[16:38] <fake> argh
[16:38] <th> genau
[16:44] <Veki> is that German language?
[16:44] <[anders-mcafee]> Veki: that'd be german yes
[16:45] <Veki> OK, I just wondered that my English is more than bad.  I am sorry if I  interrupt you :-)
[16:45] <madtux> Veki, what is your mother lang?
[16:46] <Veki> my mother lang is C :-)   I am kidding, it is Serbian
[16:46] <madtux> :)
[16:46] <madtux> oh ok... i don't know a single word of you lang :)
[16:47] <Veki> anyway, my mother always said: IF you will be good, THEN there is chocolate, ELSE ... 
[16:47] <daja77> hi madtux 
[16:48] <blindcoder> Veki: that syntax looks more like pascal
[16:48] <madtux> hehe
[16:48] <Veki> no probelm, I acn teach you, we have in our language a lot of words that do have German origin due to presence of Asutr-Hungarian aempire, anyway we have a lot of wrods that are of Sanskrit origin too
[16:48] <madtux> hi danny
[16:48] <Veki> Ah, there wer emore complex C like discussions too
[16:48] <madtux> Veki, well my mother lang is spanish
[16:48] <blindcoder> I remember a rumor saying that there is a C header file turning pascal into C
[16:49] <Veki> that is fine, I established communication with people in Extremadura.  I am planning to go there to visit them
[16:49] <madtux> cool...
[16:49] <Veki> yes, my mother did spoke with that C header :-))))
[16:49] <madtux> make sure you check out all the work they made for moving education to Free Software
[16:49] <Veki> yes, their minister of education invited me:-)
[16:50] <madtux> oh COOL
[16:50] <Veki> which part of Spain you are from?
[16:50] <madtux> so you are all adviced about Linex?
[16:50] <Veki> yes
[16:50] <madtux> i am not from spain :)
[16:50] <Veki> so, you afre which country from
[16:50] <madtux> i am from Costa Rica..
[16:50] <madtux> thats in central america
[16:51] <Veki> I have heard a lot of nice things about Costa Rica.  A god  friend of mine ewas in your country several times
[16:51] <netrunner> that's where the weed comes from *duck*
[16:52] Action: blindcoder .oO(wasn't that some place near vienna?)
[16:53] <fake> blindcoder: speaking galaxy-wise, yes.
[16:53] <madtux> Veki, cool
[16:53] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:54] <Veki> oh, yes, you have good clima and you can sit in the garden and make targets???
[16:54] <madtux> i am sitting next to my pool in fact :)
[16:54] Action: fake sits in the kitchen
[16:54] Action: blindcoder .oO(sitting in the garden and creating distributions)
[16:54] Action: blindcoder sits at work but will leave in a few minutes for kendo
[16:54] <fake> <- no garden
[16:54] <madtux> blindcoder, the magic of wireless 
[16:54] Action: fake in the kitchen at work
[16:54] <blindcoder> madtux: Yeah, I know :)
[16:55] <fake> my access point sucks
[16:55] <madtux> blindcoder, well i wasn;t sure if u had that in the woods..
[16:55] <daja77> at university supposed to be working ...
[16:55] Action: madtux hides
[16:55] <blindcoder> madtux: I can tune up the transmitter in my AP and sit in the lawn outside my flat (3 floors deeper)
[16:55] <fake> it's 802.11b only, and the centrino i have freaks out on it
[16:55] <blindcoder> madtux: you know... Berlin isn't actually "in the woods" anymore
[16:55] <blindcoder> 802.11g :D
[16:55] <fake> ist it certified yet?
[16:56] <madtux> blindcoder, oh right... u moved..
[16:56] <blindcoder> and my centrino works fine :)
[16:56] <blindcoder> fake: *shrug* no idea
[16:56] <blindcoder> it works
[16:56] <blindcoder> madtux: yes, around a year ago :)
[16:56] <fake> wee! all nagios lights back to green. fine.
[16:56] <blindcoder> well, 3/4 year
[16:56] <blindcoder> nagios? which dip?
[16:56] <madtux> oh well... i couldn;t miss an oportunity to tease
[16:57] <blindcoder> you wouldn't have been born so close to me if you could :D
[16:57] <madtux> yeah :)
[16:57] <blindcoder> anyway, I'm off for kendo
[16:57] <blindcoder> bye
[16:57] <madtux> have fun
[16:58] <Veki> kids here use wireless for gaming.  they put Nesscaffe can as amplifier of signal on antennae and they call it cantennae
[16:59] <daja77> hehe
[16:59] <daja77> Veki: where are you from again?
[16:59] <Veki> yes, many of them say that it is stupid to be taught on Microsoft word in the school, so they tend to be creative
[17:00] <Veki> I am from belgrade, Serbia, south from Hungary, north from Greece
[17:00] <daja77> I know about serbia ;)
[17:00] <Veki> cool
[17:00] <daja77> but i only made it to hungary so far
[17:01] <Veki> I am president of the board of the Linux centere here which is non-proft NGO promoting free software.
[17:01] <madtux> Veki, one question how come the minister of education invited you? are u related to education or free software or so?
[17:01] <madtux> oh..
[17:01] <madtux> u just answered my question
[17:01] <Veki> My idea si to be bale to build custom distros for various people and usage 
[17:01] <Veki> excusem on my typos, I am writing fast and keybaord is freaky
[17:02] <madtux> u are doing just fine.
[17:02] <daja77> could you post something about that to the mailingslist, feedback is always welcome
[17:02] <madtux> daja77, good call.
[17:02] <Veki> actually, I am composer also, I compose music for contemporary theatre and contemporary balley
[17:02] <madtux> Veki, or even tell us more i would to like to help. :)
[17:03] <Veki> Yes, I can. My idea si to be able and to organize trainig seminar fro young geeks to build distros for specific purposes
[17:03] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc
[17:03] <Veki> ie.e medical, engineering, science, education, general purpose for office
[17:03] <daja77> Veki: yeah, hm a dev meeting in serbia ...
[17:04] <Veki> distro with databases fro NGOS which are engaged in protection of human rights etc.
[17:04] <Veki> yes, it will be very good to rganize summer school of target building
[17:04] <Veki> for example, builtar con
[17:05] <madtux> nice..
[17:05] <Veki> or get target as you wish
[17:05] <daja77> yes I like that idea
[17:05] <madtux> you might like to talk about Jon "maddog" Hall as well he might be able to give you ideas and definitly would feel glad to hear about ur ideas
[17:05] <Veki> I will have during the next week meeting with some donors about that. If that will be successful you will surelly know that
[17:05] <Veki> It i sbecoming popular here to do audio, video blogging
[17:06] <madtux> Veki, excellent!
[17:06] <daja77> indeed
[17:06] <Veki> Thus, journalists will be able to use custome telecommunication target fro blogging etc.
[17:07] <Veki> freedom of software is full when you can practise that fully.  target building is necessary precondition.  Thus, you guys, I think are doing wonderful work
[17:07] <madtux> would be cool to go to your country and help with seminars and training..
[17:07] Action: daja77 nods
[17:07] <madtux> thx.
[17:07] <Veki> yes, it will be good ide.  I will try to do so.
[17:08] <madtux> mmh?
[17:08] <Veki> If donor will ask me for confirmation from your side, will you be keen to write for exmaple:  yes, we will accept invitation and train people there to build targets.
[17:09] <Veki> there is radio statin here which is very much keen to support us in media coverage
[17:09] <madtux> oh ..
[17:09] <daja77> it would be still good to read about it on the ml, because not all developers are reading here
[17:09] <Veki> madtux, I will check is there any Costa Rica embassy here.  If there is aI will contact hem and ask to suport your coming here. Good?
[17:10] <madtux> definitly
[17:10] <madtux> yes Veki would you write a nice email to the list?
[17:10] <madtux> one cool thing is that you can easily count with the support of most if not all the developers to make this project happen
[17:11] <madtux> we are always looking forward to help 
[17:11] <Veki> ok, we have national holiday here and we have Easter these days, since w ecelebrate easter according to calendar accepted by orthodox Church
[17:11] <Veki> yes, I will write small article on our efforts and intentions to organize target building traiing seminars here
[17:11] <daja77> fine
[17:13] <Veki> OK, hwo long article should be?
[17:14] <daja77> uhm well depends on the information you want to put it, for a start a short introduction and the references to rock linux would be good, I think
[17:15] <Veki> OK, so let say 200 words or so
[17:16] <Veki> OK?
[17:17] <daja77> yes
[17:17] <daja77> we can ask, if want more information ;)
[17:21] <Veki> of course
[17:25] <Veki> please feel free to ask any infor that may interest you
[17:26] <daja77> yep
[17:28] <fake> Veki: sounds like a candiadate for 'rolling rock' ;-)
[17:29] <Veki> yes, rock and roll
[17:30] <fake> it's our e-zine
[17:31] <Veki> yes, I like it
[17:33] <Veki> my ide as that god person is rocker
[17:34] <Veki> so, good person likes rock and roll
[17:34] <Veki> it is not only about music .  itis about paradigm that freedom should be guarated by fully creative approach to semantics of code
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[17:59] <daja77> mnemoc: are you here?
[18:00] <madtux> mnemoc, is ALWAYS here
[18:00] <daja77> hehe
[18:01] <daja77> but you aren't :P
[18:01] <madtux> i am... in spirit
[18:02] <daja77> :)
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[18:29] <mnemoc> :)
[18:29] <daja77> mnemoc!
[18:29] <mnemoc> daja77!
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