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[04:54] <zman> anyone awake
[04:55] <zman> guess not, later...
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[07:58] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:51] Action: netrunner back from adria :) and back at work :(
[09:53] <blindcoder> haha :)
[09:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: are you removing wiki spam by deleting it? 
[09:57] <blindcoder> just creating a new revision
[09:57] <blindcoder> I keep it for historical reasons :)
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[09:57] <blindcoder> though external links are all rel="nofollow" anyway
[10:02] <netrunner> blindcoder: but googlebot would count them for the target page, no? so spammer gets what he wants.
[10:03] <blindcoder> no, it wouldn't
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[10:03] <blindcoder> also, the history pages are meta noindex, nofollow
[10:20] <netrunner> blindcoder: you have bad weather? https://www.blids.de/spion/aktkarteger.png
[10:22] <blindcoder> yeah
[10:22] <blindcoder> the rain season has started :)
[10:22] <th> with great thunder this night.
[10:22] <th> hell - it was loud
[10:22] <blindcoder> I slept fine :)
[10:23] <th> i slept fine too. but i noticed that it was very loud thunder.
[10:23] <blindcoder> but my pepperonis really loved the hot weather those last few days :)
[10:23] <th> ;-)
[10:23] <blindcoder> When ddi the thunder start?
[10:23] <th> good question.
[10:23] <th> i'm not sure.
[10:24] <blindcoder> ...
[10:24] <th> something between 0100 to 0400
[10:24] <blindcoder> well, I was sound asleep at the time
[10:24] <th> oh - it was only in the north
[10:25] <th> north-east only
[10:25] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[10:26] <netrunner> blue heaven here, but hail annouced for afternoon.
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[10:33] <owl> moin
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[15:01] <clifford> http://www.clifford.at/priv/dependencies.ps
[15:03] <netrunner> clifford: can't you publish that as pdf or png or something I can look at while at work? :)
[15:04] <blindcoder> yeah, that would really help the people who are forced to use sub-standard installations of operating systems :)
[15:05] <clifford> hmm.. ps2pdf doesn't work as expected..
[15:05] <clifford> netrunner: no. seams like I can't.  :-(
[15:06] <th> i can
[15:06] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/dependencies.png
[15:07] <netrunner> th: thx
[15:07] <th> clifford: imagemagick can do ;)
[15:07] <th> convert dependencies.ps dependencies.png
[15:07] <blindcoder> is this from a current build?
[15:07] <blindcoder> looks like fake data to me...
[15:08] <netrunner> is theat only deps from problematic packages?
[15:10] <clifford> this is the cyclic dep graph generated by Check-Deps-2 (after applying 2005052017440208575, its worse without that patch)
[15:10] <daja77> clifford: epstopdf works
[15:12] <blindcoder> so, why is there xfree86 _and_ xorg in one build?
[15:12] <th> it's for dual head ;)
[15:13] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:13] <netrunner> are xorg and xfree86 client compatible? if not - wouldn't be a problem, no?
[15:13] <daja77> they are
[15:17] <clifford> blindcoder: because they are in a dependency group.
[15:17] <blindcoder> ah
[15:18] <blindcoder> clifford: could you pass a mail to the list about that? Then I can include it in the next-and-improved newsflash :)
[15:18] <clifford> a big issue are false deps from the linux bin package. I think I've fixed that one now..
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[15:55] <netrunner> netrunner: look at how to compile kerberos into samba
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[16:15] <treo> hi
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[16:57] <clifford> http://www.clifford.at/priv/dependencies.png
[16:57] <clifford> .. better already. ;-)
[16:58] <daja77> oh pil ...
[18:21] <blindcoder> googlebot is strange
[18:21] <blindcoder> since when does it download application/octet-stream?
[18:37] <SMP> since ever
[18:41] <blindcoder> oh
[18:41] <blindcoder> better remove those old ROCK isos from the public directories then :)
[19:15] <clifford> damit python!!!
[19:15] <th> hey!
[19:16] <clifford> python fopens _all_ site-packages modules when started. this explains whay everything which installs a python module is in the dep list ov every package running the python interpreter during the build..
[19:17] <clifford> what exactly are *.pth files ?
[19:17] <th> i dont know .pth
[19:17] <th> does it open .py files?
[19:17] <th> or only .py[co]
[19:19] <clifford> afaics so far it's just *.pth files..
[19:20] <th> i dont have such files
[19:20] <th> nothing at all in my /usr/lib/python2.3
[19:21] <clifford> e.g.: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Numeric.pth (from "numpy" package)
[19:21] <th> something new in 2.4 then
[19:22] <clifford> and according to 'strace', python does a directory scan and reads all those *.pth files..
[19:52] <th> i've no edit button in flyspray
[19:53] <th> clifford: do you need to make me VIP in flyspray?
[19:53] <th> or god perhaps
[19:53] <th> or something more cool?
[19:54] <clifford> hmm..
[19:55] <clifford> th: you are in the 'admin' group now..
[19:55] <th> let's see
[19:55] <th> i guess i've to relogin
[19:56] <th> hmm
[19:57] <th> how can i confirm/resolve a task?
[19:59] <th> strange
[19:59] <th> i wanna be more than admin
[19:59] <th> ;)
[19:59] <clifford> what do you want to do?
[19:59] <th> i want to resolve task #220
[19:59] <th> but admin is not more than before
[19:59] <th> nothing changed
[20:00] <th> i'm "teha" not "th"
[20:00] <clifford> in https://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/?do=details&id=220
[20:00] <clifford> select the reason and click on 'close task'.
[20:00] <th> the only thing i have is a "add comment" button
[20:02] <clifford> hmm.. do you have things such as 'Users & Groups' in the menu bar ?
[20:02] <th> nope
[20:02] <clifford> did you try logging out and in again?
[20:02] <th> yes
[20:02] <clifford> flushing the browser cache?
[20:03] <th> i do exist twice!
[20:03] <th> my login is "teha"
[20:03] <th> when searching for bugs i can see "Tobias Hintze" twice
[20:03] <clifford> ok. I've change the user 'th' ..
[20:03] <th> and removed one/
[20:03] <th> and removed one?
[20:04] <clifford> both are enabled accounts.
[20:04] <th> login failed for th. i dont know that password. could you delete that account?
[20:04] <clifford> I can disable it.
[20:04] <th> yea
[20:04] <th> and make "teha" admin
[20:04] <th> please
[20:05] <clifford> done.
[20:05] <th> that's different now.
[20:05] <th> thanks
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[22:46] <daja77> clifford: simple question, why you use convert for the png pcitures of the trees when -Tpng would do the same?
[22:47] <daja77> just curious ;)
[22:52] <th> i know why.
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[23:03] <treo> gn8
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[23:11] <netrunner> actions on submaster take ages :/
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