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[08:33] <netrunner> moin [08:33] <netrunner> weird, my irssi mixed up servers ... [08:34] <blindcoder> mixed up as in? [08:36] Nick change: BoS_ -> BoS [08:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: couldn't write to #rocklinux any more, as it tried to /msg #rocklinux on the wrong server [08:37] <blindcoder> oh [08:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you have a recent mine? could you try a mine -i nonexistingfile please? [08:39] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ mine -q mine [08:39] <blindcoder> mine 0.20 0 [08:39] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ mine -l foobar [08:39] <blindcoder> While reading GEM file foobar: No such file or directory [08:39] <blindcoder> oh, -i [08:39] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ mine -i foobar [08:39] <blindcoder> While installing GEM file foobar: No such file or directory [08:40] Action: netrunner has mine 0.21 [08:40] <netrunner> it coredumps. [08:40] <blindcoder> that's bad [08:40] Action: blindcoder updating [08:41] <netrunner> I installed the huge build on my laptop [08:59] <blindcoder> root@ceres:/usr/src/rock-2.1-clifford# mine -q mine [08:59] <blindcoder> mine 0.22 0 [08:59] <blindcoder> root@ceres:~# mine -i foobar [08:59] <blindcoder> While installing GEM file foobar: No such file or directory [09:00] <netrunner> blindcoder: did you get the 0.22 from trunk? [09:00] <blindcoder> ye [09:00] <blindcoder> s [09:00] <blindcoder> svn up && ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg mine [09:00] <netrunner> hm, should sync. [09:01] <netrunner> btw, now that I try to use hotplug/udev, do you know how to blacklist modules? and how to force modules to be loaded at boot? [09:01] <blindcoder> no, sorry [09:19] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. 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[11:49] <netrunner> hm, this hotplug-ng is lacking features, as does hotplug. [11:49] Action: netrunner about to switch back to rockplug [12:03] <netrunner> there is some duplicate stuff in system.init/rockplug.init ... [12:25] blindcoder (~blindcode@dsl-213-023-154-171.arcor-ip.net) got netsplit. [12:28] netrunner (~andreas@p5498292D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) got netsplit. [12:28] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.93) got netsplit. [12:28] _hannes (~hannes@port-212-202-60-191.dynamic.qsc.de) got netsplit. [12:28] _Ragnar__ (loki@216.250.77.230) got netsplit. [12:28] SMP (~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) got netsplit. [12:28] th (~th@montana.hbsn.de) got netsplit. [12:30] _Ragnar_ (loki@216.250.77.230) joined #rocklinux. [12:31] th (~th@montana.hbsn.de) returned to #rocklinux. [12:31] mnemoc (~amery@200.75.27.93) returned to #rocklinux. [12:31] netrunner (~andreas@p5498292D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) returned to #rocklinux. [12:33] blindcoder (~blindcode@213.23.154.171) joined #rocklinux. 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[12:44] Nick change: SMP_ -> SMP [12:45] <clifford> moin [12:45] <owl> hi clifford [12:46] <clifford> hi owl [12:48] Action: netrunner misses the possibility to force loading of modules with hotplug [12:50] <blindcoder> moin clifford [12:51] <netrunner> hi clifford [12:55] <SMP> netrunner: edit /etc/conf/kernel ? [14:26] <esden> moin [14:27] <daja77> moin esden [14:27] <esden> huhu daja77 ;( [14:27] <esden> erm ;) [14:27] <daja77> ^^ [14:55] <netrunner> SMP: that's rockplug. [14:56] <netrunner> SMP: but tell me, when entering a "special" char in an xterm, why can I press backspace twice? [14:56] <th> netrunner: no. that's boot-process [14:56] <th> netrunner: tried using uxterm? [14:57] <netrunner> ah, ic. but the hotplug.init is superfluous imho, because system.init does the same. [14:58] <netrunner> th: not yet, will do. [14:58] <netrunner> th: same effect. [14:59] <th> hmm dunno then [15:01] <SMP> netrunner: try in ~/.inputrc : [15:01] <SMP> set meta-flag on [15:01] <SMP> set convert-meta off [15:01] <SMP> set input-meta on [15:01] <SMP> set output-meta on [15:04] treo (~xfman@Da637.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:04] <netrunner> SMP: who reads this file? [15:04] <SMP> libreadline [15:05] <netrunner> so restarting the xterm would activate the changes? [15:05] <treo> hi [15:05] <SMP> xterm doesn't use libreadline, bash does - but yes, it would [15:07] <netrunner> xterm: same as before, konsole: special chars are not displayed (in addition to former effect) [15:09] <SMP> interesting. on first sight it looks like I don't need these lines (anymore) [15:10] <SMP> netrunner: open an xterm, make sure LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 is set, then start another xterm from that shell. does that xterm print any errors? [15:12] <netrunner> SMP: hey, you're magic :) "Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged." [15:13] <netrunner> did I forget to set any build options? [15:13] <SMP> probably not. [15:14] <SMP> netrunner: /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED exists and contains de_DE.UTF-8 ? [15:16] <netrunner> exists yes, contains no. [15:16] <SMP> uhh. where'd you get that glibc from? [15:17] <netrunner> SMP: current trunk [15:17] <SMP> stupid glibc fucks [15:17] <th> de_DE.UTF-8/UTF-8 \ [15:17] <SMP> what does "localedef --list-archive | grep de_DE" output? [15:18] <netrunner> de_DE{,.iso88591}{,@euro} [15:19] <th> oh i have de_DE.utf8 as well there [15:19] <netrunner> th: I guess you are running stable there? [15:19] <th> yes [15:19] <th> but i've the same double-backspace effect [15:20] <th> might be a font issue [15:22] <netrunner> I only have a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/de_DE.UTF-8 [15:24] <SMP> netrunner: well it's no surprise it doesn't work if you don't have that locale defined [15:25] <SMP> but I really wonder why this happens with th. I cannot reproduce that behaviour, no matter how much I cripple my environment [15:25] <th> propably layer8 related [15:25] <netrunner> th: what version of glibc are you using? I have 2.3.3 [15:25] <blindcoder> hehe [15:26] <th> 2.3.2 [15:26] <SMP> netrunner: run as root: localedef -c -f UTF-8 -i de_DE de_DE.utf8 [15:27] <netrunner> SMP: success :) [15:28] <netrunner> SMP: error and weird behaviour vanished. [15:28] <th> not for me [15:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: could you write a bit about that into ROCKDoc? [15:30] <netrunner> blindcoder: yup [15:30] <netrunner> blindcoder: maybe when I am back from work :) [15:31] <netrunner> what blog software do you use? [15:31] <netrunner> wow. just rebooted, many coredumps are throwing against me :( [15:32] <netrunner> seems not all pieces of software on the system linke utf8 :( [15:32] <netrunner> sed, grep ... [15:34] <netrunner> yeah, mostly sed and grep are dumping core now. [15:34] <SMP> netrunner: the .inputrc lines I gave you should be in the default /etc/inputrc btw. - can you check? [15:35] <netrunner> SMP: ack [15:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: no blog, it's wiki [15:36] <netrunner> blindcoder: I am not talking about rockdoc, just remembered some of you write blogs [15:36] <owl> netrunner: /me uses plog [15:36] <blindcoder> netrunner: fake does [15:36] <blindcoder> and daja77 [15:36] <blindcoder> not me [15:36] <blindcoder> nothing interesting to write about [15:37] <SMP> I can't remember anything ever dump core just because it was running in a Unicode locale - there isn't even an imaginable reason, let alone an excuse for that [15:37] <SMP> netrunner: can you get a backtrace? [15:38] <netrunner> SMP: hard, as the binaries are stripped. I'll seen. [15:39] <netrunner> gdb as well as rm dump too. [15:40] <SMP> well, unset LANG [15:41] <netrunner> yes. is the highest number the most recent or the lowest? [15:41] <netrunner> last message I get is "Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) [15:41] <netrunner> in _dl_unload_cache () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 [15:42] <SMP> top 3 to 5 lines are interesting [15:42] <netrunner> #0 is in iswalnum() from /lib/libc.so.6 [15:42] <netrunner> #1-3 in regfree() [15:42] <netrunner> #4 regcomp [15:42] <netrunner> #5 l64a () [15:42] <SMP> cool. somebody shoot the glibc fuckers [15:42] <th> netrunner: better buy a new computer now. [15:43] <netrunner> th: ? [15:43] <th> netrunner: no matter that [15:43] <netrunner> is this something about the 64 indicating 64 bit architecture? [15:44] <netrunner> (which this is not) [15:45] <SMP> man l64a [15:45] <netrunner> ic [15:52] <netrunner> SMP: you think it is a bug in glibc? [15:54] <SMP> yeah, well, hum. I can't think of a good reason why iswalnum() should be allowed to do that [15:56] <netrunner> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.3.5.tar.bz2 <-- who want's to upgrade? :) [15:56] <SMP> versions past 2.3.3 are broken [15:56] <SMP> did I say shoot the glibc fuckers recently? [15:57] <netrunner> SMP: imho you can decrease that minor by 1 :) [15:57] <netrunner> can't we build the system on mono or something? :) [15:57] <SMP> I have some machines on glibc 2.3.3 with no problems yet [15:57] <netrunner> on utf8? [15:58] <SMP> no. will try [15:58] <netrunner> thx [15:59] <SMP> also lacking a predefined de_DE.UTF-8 locale [16:00] <_hannes> hi [16:00] <blindcoder> moin _hannes [16:00] <_hannes> hi blindcoder [16:00] <SMP> Core was generated by `ls ä'. [16:00] <SMP> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. [16:00] <_hannes> cool to meet you [16:00] <SMP> #0 0x400dd561 in iswprint () from /lib/libc.so.6 [16:00] <_hannes> blindcoder: about the rock-stuff [16:01] <SMP> haha. incredible [16:01] <blindcoder> _hannes: yeah [16:01] <_hannes> blindcoder: i think i'll arrive 21:19 berlin zoo [16:01] <blindcoder> _hannes: I'll leave for Ingolstadt on Friday [16:01] <_hannes> on thursday [16:01] <_hannes> blindcoder: i'll take the train to ingolstadt on monday [16:02] <blindcoder> _hannes: you could come to me then :) [16:02] <_hannes> are you in berlin on monday? [16:02] <blindcoder> _hannes: I'll arrive on sunday evening [16:02] <_hannes> that's fine [16:02] <blindcoder> _hannes: or I just stash it at bitz [16:02] <_hannes> blindcoder: i don't know if i have time to go there [16:03] <_hannes> blindcoder: better keep it in berlin [16:03] <_hannes> i have the full monday time in berlin, or we meet sunday night [16:03] <blindcoder> _hannes: when do you leave on monday? [16:03] <_hannes> i think late afternoon [16:04] <blindcoder> _hannes: I'll be back in berlin at 22:30 [16:04] <blindcoder> so if you have time to spare by then [16:04] <_hannes> that's fine. i'll be by then in the ccc clubrooms [16:05] <_hannes> and after that we can go somewhere to have one(!) coke, beer... [16:05] <blindcoder> okay :) [16:06] <_hannes> blindcoder: you have to work on monday? [16:06] <blindcoder> yes [16:07] <_hannes> :/ [16:11] mnemoc_ (~amery@200.75.27.44) joined #rocklinux. [16:14] <blindcoder> _hannes: but I could be a bit late :) [16:14] <_hannes> that would be fine [16:14] <_hannes> can i sleep sunday => monday at yours? [16:15] <blindcoder> sure [16:15] <blindcoder> if you promise to use the bath before :) [16:15] <_hannes> promise! [16:16] <_hannes> hmm... [16:16] <_hannes> will be bad weather in berlin at the weekend [16:16] <blindcoder> as if you'll notice :P [16:17] <_hannes> ehh.. [16:17] <_hannes> that's a camp [16:17] <_hannes> hackcenter-tent... 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