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[08:25] <blindcoder> moin
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[08:50] <netrunner> moin, 2
[09:04] <esden> moin
[09:12] <blindcoder> daja77: ping
[09:53] <_hannes> moin
[09:53] <blindcoder> moin moin _hannes 
[09:54] <blindcoder> _hannes: sunday still okay?
[09:54] <blindcoder> I'll be home at around 22:30
[09:54] <_hannes> blindcoder: jop
[09:55] <blindcoder> good :)
[09:56] <_hannes> we just decided to leave here at 2pm
[09:56] <blindcoder> today?
[09:57] <_hannes> jop
[09:57] <blindcoder> ah
[09:57] <blindcoder> well, I'll be busy packing today
[09:57] <blindcoder> when will you arrive in berlin
[09:58] <_hannes> 19:32
[09:59] <blindcoder> TXL?
[09:59] <_hannes> TXL?
[09:59] <blindcoder> Tegel Airport
[09:59] <_hannes> Ostbahnhof
[09:59] <blindcoder> ew.. that's the other end of town ):
[10:06] <_hannes> is zoologischer garden better?
[10:06] <blindcoder> hardly, and nowhere near where I'd go by car :)
[10:07] <_hannes> we are planning to take straba to friedrichsstrasse then
[10:08] <blindcoder> I should go to bed early anyway, need to be up at 4 AM
[10:08] <_hannes> lets do that on sunday
[10:08] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[10:08] <_hannes> just come online in jabber, i will be online all the time ;)
[10:10] <blindcoder> licq here
[10:11] <daja77> blindcoder: pong
[10:11] <blindcoder> daja77: moin
[10:12] <blindcoder> daja77: Sven told me you're holding a talk about LiveCDs on Friday
[10:12] <daja77> true that
[10:12] <blindcoder> daja77: can you give me the sheets? I can't be there (need to go to Ingolstadt early tomorrow) but I'm interested in it
[10:13] <daja77> when i created some, of course ;)
[10:13] <blindcoder> *lol* that's my boy :)
[10:14] <daja77> had no time for that so far ;)
[10:15] <blindcoder> making them up as you go, hm? :)
[10:16] <daja77> no will do later that day, livecd build is started as well ;)
[10:18] <blindcoder> hehe
[10:19] <daja77> blindcoder: what do you think of the bootscreen
[10:19] <blindcoder> bootscreen?
[10:19] <daja77> http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/live-cd-logo.png
[10:20] <blindcoder> clickety
[10:20] <blindcoder> nice, although maybe a bit much
[10:20] <blindcoder> it feels heavy somehow
[10:21] <daja77> don't worry it will be reduced to 16 colors ^^
[10:22] <blindcoder> it's not the color
[10:22] <daja77> well I know, I am no designer ;)
[10:22] <blindcoder> maybe if you make the pengiun semi transparent, the text "Live CD" in same or similar font as "ROCK Linux" and put those two over the penguin
[10:22] <blindcoder> the logo at the top, the text below that
[10:24] <daja77> hm I wanted to avoid some other text in the ugly font of the logo
[10:24] <blindcoder> well, two different fonts is Bad, and that's Bad with a capital B
[10:25] <blindcoder> at least that's what They taught us during job training
[10:25] <daja77> yes ... we need a new logo 
[10:25] <blindcoder> eeehm
[10:25] <blindcoder> you don't want me to elaborate on what creating a new logo/name/foo means in the business world :)
[10:26] <daja77> dunno if I can even reproduce that fonts
[10:26] <blindcoder> well, where did clifford get them from?
[10:26] <daja77> in terms of netbsd it means to have flag instead of devils ^^
[10:28] <blindcoder> well, if you get a new name/logo/brand it's usually a sign that something went horribly wrong and one wants to distract customers and other companies from that by trying to establish a new CI
[10:29] <daja77> anyway I don't think that using the same font for the writing would improve the matter in that case
[10:30] <daja77> but in general you are right
[10:32] <blindcoder> well, I try to say a lot less crap these days :)
[10:33] <daja77> *gg*
[10:59] <daja77> aaaaarrrgh!
[11:01] <blindcoder> hm?
[11:03] <daja77> that mda driver crap broke x.org, it seems you can't download it directly anymire
[11:03] <blindcoder> :(
[11:04] <daja77> mgadriver
[11:05] <daja77> hm no you can, but it didn't worked
[11:14] <daja77> >_< in xorg.desc it is called mgsdriver-$version.tar.bzw but they are only offering tar.gz atm
[11:14] <blindcoder> hmpf
[11:15] <daja77> hope this does not screw the build
[13:21] <netrunner> could anybody explain to me why I cannot scripts/Build-Target -cfg full -job 9-commonc++
[13:21] <netrunner> could it be that the ++ there interferes somewhere?
[13:22] <netrunner> daja77: have you applied the mgadriver update?
[13:36] <daja77> 4.1-1-src
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[15:32] <daja77> s
[15:34] <netrunner> daja77: I assure you there aren't any.
[15:34] <netrunner> daja77: I ran a full build and am now using the system.
[15:36] <netrunner> daja77: could you specify which problems you want to avoid?
[15:37] <daja77> x.org
[15:45] <netrunner> daja77: no problems here.
[15:45] <netrunner> daja77: have you had any
[15:45] <netrunner> ?
[15:46] <daja77> I had, dunno if it was related due that, anyway I want be sure that build works until friday
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[18:30] <blindcoder> re
[18:31] <daja77> wb
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[18:42] <treo> hi
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[19:37] <daja77> ts
[19:44] <blindcoder> you know what the only thing is I hate more than idiots?
[19:45] <blindcoder> idiots asking me to fix their screwups
[20:06] <daja77> hehe
[20:07] <blindcoder> "My friends got a virus on her machine. What should we do?"
[20:07] <blindcoder> *hrmpf*
[20:07] <daja77> blindcoder: do yu want to read over the slides perhaps when I finished them?
[20:08] <blindcoder> I won't be having an internet connection starting tomorrow morning
[20:08] <blindcoder> so if you finish them within the hour, sure
[20:09] <daja77> oh that will be hard
[20:10] <blindcoder> men grow with their challenges
[20:10] <daja77> but I'll try
[20:10] <daja77> :P
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[20:46] <daja77> blindcoder: finished apart from the credits
[20:47] <blindcoder> nice
[20:48] <daja77> could upload a .ps file
[20:49] <blindcoder> please give me something I can read...
[20:50] <daja77> what can you read?
[20:50] <mnemoc> :)
[20:50] <daja77> pdf?
[20:50] <blindcoder> yeah
[20:50] <blindcoder> I mean... what _does_ one use to open .gs?
[20:50] <mnemoc> gv
[20:51] <mnemoc> or ps2pdf :)
[20:51] <netrunner> damn. recognizing mold only at the 2nd slice of bread is tough
[20:52] Action: blindcoder laughs and points at netrunner 
[20:52] <blindcoder> that's why I always keep a bunch of toast frozen :)
[20:52] <daja77> blindcoder: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/livecd-vortrag.pdf
[20:53] <daja77> and btw kghostview does the job as well ^^
[20:53] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ kghostview
[20:53] <blindcoder> -bash: kghostview: command not found
[20:53] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ kghostview
[20:53] <blindcoder> -bash: kghostview: command not found
[20:53] <blindcoder> oops, once should have been enough :)
[20:53] <daja77> anyway there is a pdf
[20:53] Action: blindcoder acroread'ing
[20:54] <blindcoder> daja77: the rocklinx logo is a bit off :)
[20:55] <blindcoder> daja77: a direct link to the boot image example from the net would probably be better
[20:58] <blindcoder> hmm, okay
[20:58] <blindcoder> I don't get the unionfs example from the slides
[20:59] <blindcoder> hope you'll do a lot of explaining about that one :)
[20:59] <blindcoder> Typo: er letze im Bunde
[20:59] <blindcoder> should probably be "Der Letzte im Bunde" (capitalisation!)
[21:00] <blindcoder> same slide (22): capitalise "unionfs" as "UnionFS" like you did on the TOC
[21:01] <daja77> I know about the damn logo, this is a latex thing I didn't figure out yet
[21:01] <blindcoder> otherwise it looks pretty good to me
[21:01] <daja77> it works with other logos 
[21:01] <blindcoder> too bad I can't be there, I'd nail you down with questions :D
[21:02] <daja77> yes I do a lot of explaining the unionfs stuff, one should just get it is more complicated than shadowfs ^^
[21:02] <blindcoder> hehe, well, I'm sure THAT will be easy to get to the audience :)
[21:03] <daja77> hope the livecd build will finish in time, had to restart from zero at 14:00 due that mga stuff
[21:04] <blindcoder> ewww
[21:04] <blindcoder> if push comes to shove, just download one from iso.rocklinux.de
[21:04] <blindcoder> but the whole KDE stuff takes ages to build
[21:05] <daja77> I know, but the images are old and do not contain pspresent
[21:05] <blindcoder> I see
[21:05] <blindcoder> what about just taking up where you left the build?
[21:06] <blindcoder> when and where is your talk, anyway?
[21:06] <daja77> didn't work due some created X11 directory which was created instead of symlinked and broke x.org
[21:06] <blindcoder> sucks
[21:06] <daja77> tomorrow evening 19:00 @ clug
[21:07] <daja77> yes I cursed ...
[21:07] <daja77> if it doesn't finish in time, I'll just boot uo the laptop from hd
[21:08] <blindcoder> sucks, but nothing to be done about it :(
[21:09] <daja77> there is  a chance as the livecd doesn't have that many packages
[21:10] <daja77> and x.org build just started now ;)
[21:13] <daja77> ok the fixes are in, apart from tha logo crap
[21:14] <blindcoder> good :)
[21:15] <netrunner>  .o( blindy wants to nail daja ) *readingbacklog*
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[21:16] <blindcoder> netrunner: with questions, yeah
[21:17] <netrunner> daja77: do you need build power? my build server is idling ...
[21:17] <daja77> well I'd have to download the image then, no fun with isdn ...
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[21:28] <daja77> hah, almost fixed that logo thing
[21:29] <daja77> .oO (editing latex stylesheets is fun - NO!)
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[21:32] <daja77> blindcoder: want to have another look?
[21:37] <blindcoder> I looked twice and those were the things I found
[21:37] <blindcoder> also, I think I'm going to bed now
[21:37] <blindcoder> need to get up at 4am again
[21:38] <daja77> oh n8
[21:38] <netrunner> daja77: same link?
[21:41] <netrunner> slide 7: "fi xiert"
[21:42] <netrunner> slide 9: "Grafi k"
[21:42] <netrunner> is that my font?
[21:43] <netrunner> slide 11: zwiscehn 
[21:43] <ija> netrunner: no :)
[21:45] <netrunner> ija: ?
[21:46] <daja77> hm strange I wrote that together
[21:47] <daja77> thx for the other typos
[21:48] <ija> netrunner: sorry, please forgo itt, i'm verwirrt
[21:48] <daja77> confused ^^
[21:48] <daja77> ok these gaps are not in the postscript ...
[21:49] <netrunner> slide 25: z.b. -> z.B.
[21:49] <ija> yes thx, daja
[21:49] <netrunner> slide 26: chrrot -> chroot
[21:49] <netrunner> slide 26: "Konfi guration" 
[21:49] <ija> 22: sowhl -> sowohl
[21:50] <netrunner> slide 26:"ur -> f"ur
[21:50] <daja77> I am screwed ^^
[21:50] <netrunner> slide 27: "fi lled"
[21:50] <ija> 24: gem
[21:51] <netrunner> and slide 29 misses an item in the topic list on the left
[21:51] <netrunner> which might be intended but looks wrong somehow.
[21:51] <daja77> netrunner: those gaps aren't there in the postscript, no idea
[21:52] <netrunner> hm. do you see them too? 
[21:52] <ija> daja77: i also see them
[21:52] <daja77> of course
[21:52] <netrunner> daja77: maybe \usepackage{times} could help? it uses some nicer fonts ...
[21:52] <netrunner> daja77: how do you create the pdf? pdflatex or dvipdf?
[21:53] <daja77> ps2pdf
[21:53] <daja77> unfortunately pdflatex doesn't work with ha prosper
[21:53] <netrunner> I get pdf directly from my prosper.
[21:55] <netrunner> I latex it and then use dvipdf. (according to my makefile)
[21:55] <netrunner> ah no, that was no slide ...
[21:55] <netrunner>  latex ./${BASENAME}.tex; dvips -Ppdf -G0 ${BASENAME}.dvi -o ${BASENAME}.ps; ps2pdf -dPDFsettings=/prepress ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}.pdf
[21:56] <daja77> ah
[21:56] <netrunner> and in the .tex header: \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen}
[21:56] <netrunner> daja77: maybe the prepress stuff does magic or the -Ppdf or so.
[22:00] <daja77> the gaps are still there
[22:01] <daja77> I'll use the ps for presentation, but it still sucks
[22:03] <daja77> new version there, still with gaps
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