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[09:54] <blindcoder> I'll be home at around 22:30 [09:54] <_hannes> blindcoder: jop [09:55] <blindcoder> good :) [09:56] <_hannes> we just decided to leave here at 2pm [09:56] <blindcoder> today? [09:57] <_hannes> jop [09:57] <blindcoder> ah [09:57] <blindcoder> well, I'll be busy packing today [09:57] <blindcoder> when will you arrive in berlin [09:58] <_hannes> 19:32 [09:59] <blindcoder> TXL? [09:59] <_hannes> TXL? [09:59] <blindcoder> Tegel Airport [09:59] <_hannes> Ostbahnhof [09:59] <blindcoder> ew.. that's the other end of town ): [10:06] <_hannes> is zoologischer garden better? [10:06] <blindcoder> hardly, and nowhere near where I'd go by car :) [10:07] <_hannes> we are planning to take straba to friedrichsstrasse then [10:08] <blindcoder> I should go to bed early anyway, need to be up at 4 AM [10:08] <_hannes> lets do that on sunday [10:08] <blindcoder> yeah :) [10:08] <_hannes> just come online in jabber, i will be online all the time ;) [10:10] <blindcoder> licq here [10:11] <daja77> blindcoder: pong [10:11] <blindcoder> daja77: moin [10:12] <blindcoder> daja77: Sven told me you're holding a talk about LiveCDs on Friday [10:12] <daja77> true that [10:12] <blindcoder> daja77: can you give me the sheets? I can't be there (need to go to Ingolstadt early tomorrow) but I'm interested in it [10:13] <daja77> when i created some, of course ;) [10:13] <blindcoder> *lol* that's my boy :) [10:14] <daja77> had no time for that so far ;) [10:15] <blindcoder> making them up as you go, hm? :) [10:16] <daja77> no will do later that day, livecd build is started as well ;) [10:18] <blindcoder> hehe [10:19] <daja77> blindcoder: what do you think of the bootscreen [10:19] <blindcoder> bootscreen? [10:19] <daja77> https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/live-cd-logo.png [10:20] <blindcoder> clickety [10:20] <blindcoder> nice, although maybe a bit much [10:20] <blindcoder> it feels heavy somehow [10:21] <daja77> don't worry it will be reduced to 16 colors ^^ [10:22] <blindcoder> it's not the color [10:22] <daja77> well I know, I am no designer ;) [10:22] <blindcoder> maybe if you make the pengiun semi transparent, the text "Live CD" in same or similar font as "ROCK Linux" and put those two over the penguin [10:22] <blindcoder> the logo at the top, the text below that [10:24] <daja77> hm I wanted to avoid some other text in the ugly font of the logo [10:24] <blindcoder> well, two different fonts is Bad, and that's Bad with a capital B [10:25] <blindcoder> at least that's what They taught us during job training [10:25] <daja77> yes ... we need a new logo [10:25] <blindcoder> eeehm [10:25] <blindcoder> you don't want me to elaborate on what creating a new logo/name/foo means in the business world :) [10:26] <daja77> dunno if I can even reproduce that fonts [10:26] <blindcoder> well, where did clifford get them from? [10:26] <daja77> in terms of netbsd it means to have flag instead of devils ^^ [10:28] <blindcoder> well, if you get a new name/logo/brand it's usually a sign that something went horribly wrong and one wants to distract customers and other companies from that by trying to establish a new CI [10:29] <daja77> anyway I don't think that using the same font for the writing would improve the matter in that case [10:30] <daja77> but in general you are right [10:32] <blindcoder> well, I try to say a lot less crap these days :) [10:33] <daja77> *gg* [10:59] <daja77> aaaaarrrgh! [11:01] <blindcoder> hm? [11:03] <daja77> that mda driver crap broke x.org, it seems you can't download it directly anymire [11:03] <blindcoder> :( [11:04] <daja77> mgadriver [11:05] <daja77> hm no you can, but it didn't worked [11:14] <daja77> >_< in xorg.desc it is called mgsdriver-$version.tar.bzw but they are only offering tar.gz atm [11:14] <blindcoder> hmpf [11:15] <daja77> hope this does not screw the build [13:21] <netrunner> could anybody explain to me why I cannot scripts/Build-Target -cfg full -job 9-commonc++ [13:21] <netrunner> could it be that the ++ there interferes somewhere? [13:22] <netrunner> daja77: have you applied the mgadriver update? [13:36] <daja77> 4.1-1-src [13:49] Nick change: nzg_ -> nzg [15:31] Action: netrunner extended asterisk with a bluetooth plugin [15:32] Action: daja77 downgraded binutils once again to avoid problem [15:32] <daja77> s [15:34] <netrunner> daja77: I assure you there aren't any. [15:34] <netrunner> daja77: I ran a full build and am now using the system. [15:36] <netrunner> daja77: could you specify which problems you want to avoid? [15:37] <daja77> x.org [15:45] <netrunner> daja77: no problems here. [15:45] <netrunner> daja77: have you had any [15:45] <netrunner> ? [15:46] <daja77> I had, dunno if it was related due that, anyway I want be sure that build works until friday [17:13] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:30] <blindcoder> re [18:31] <daja77> wb [18:41] treo (~xfman@Dcdb8.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:42] <treo> hi [19:32] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:34] aexel (~aexel@p54A03DF7.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:34] <aexel> tagtag [19:35] aexel (~aexel@p54A03DF7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:37] <daja77> ts [19:44] <blindcoder> you know what the only thing is I hate more than idiots? [19:45] <blindcoder> idiots asking me to fix their screwups [20:06] <daja77> hehe [20:07] <blindcoder> "My friends got a virus on her machine. What should we do?" [20:07] <blindcoder> *hrmpf* [20:07] <daja77> blindcoder: do yu want to read over the slides perhaps when I finished them? [20:08] <blindcoder> I won't be having an internet connection starting tomorrow morning [20:08] <blindcoder> so if you finish them within the hour, sure [20:09] <daja77> oh that will be hard [20:10] <blindcoder> men grow with their challenges [20:10] <daja77> but I'll try [20:10] <daja77> :P [20:30] kasc_ (kasc@dsl-082-083-185-133.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:32] _hannes (~hannes@port-212-202-60-191.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:37] SerWou (~SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:42] kasc (kasc@dsl-082-083-130-091.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [20:46] <daja77> blindcoder: finished apart from the credits [20:47] <blindcoder> nice [20:48] <daja77> could upload a .ps file [20:49] <blindcoder> please give me something I can read... [20:50] <daja77> what can you read? [20:50] <mnemoc> :) [20:50] <daja77> pdf? [20:50] <blindcoder> yeah [20:50] <blindcoder> I mean... what _does_ one use to open .gs? [20:50] <mnemoc> gv [20:51] <mnemoc> or ps2pdf :) [20:51] <netrunner> damn. recognizing mold only at the 2nd slice of bread is tough [20:52] Action: blindcoder laughs and points at netrunner [20:52] <blindcoder> that's why I always keep a bunch of toast frozen :) [20:52] <daja77> blindcoder: https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/livecd-vortrag.pdf [20:53] <daja77> and btw kghostview does the job as well ^^ [20:53] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ kghostview [20:53] <blindcoder> -bash: kghostview: command not found [20:53] <blindcoder> blindcoder@fuzzy:~$ kghostview [20:53] <blindcoder> -bash: kghostview: command not found [20:53] <blindcoder> oops, once should have been enough :) [20:53] <daja77> anyway there is a pdf [20:53] Action: blindcoder acroread'ing [20:54] <blindcoder> daja77: the rocklinx logo is a bit off :) [20:55] <blindcoder> daja77: a direct link to the boot image example from the net would probably be better [20:58] <blindcoder> hmm, okay [20:58] <blindcoder> I don't get the unionfs example from the slides [20:59] <blindcoder> hope you'll do a lot of explaining about that one :) [20:59] <blindcoder> Typo: er letze im Bunde [20:59] <blindcoder> should probably be "Der Letzte im Bunde" (capitalisation!) [21:00] <blindcoder> same slide (22): capitalise "unionfs" as "UnionFS" like you did on the TOC [21:01] <daja77> I know about the damn logo, this is a latex thing I didn't figure out yet [21:01] <blindcoder> otherwise it looks pretty good to me [21:01] <daja77> it works with other logos [21:01] <blindcoder> too bad I can't be there, I'd nail you down with questions :D [21:02] <daja77> yes I do a lot of explaining the unionfs stuff, one should just get it is more complicated than shadowfs ^^ [21:02] <blindcoder> hehe, well, I'm sure THAT will be easy to get to the audience :) [21:03] <daja77> hope the livecd build will finish in time, had to restart from zero at 14:00 due that mga stuff [21:04] <blindcoder> ewww [21:04] <blindcoder> if push comes to shove, just download one from iso.rocklinux.de [21:04] <blindcoder> but the whole KDE stuff takes ages to build [21:05] <daja77> I know, but the images are old and do not contain pspresent [21:05] <blindcoder> I see [21:05] <blindcoder> what about just taking up where you left the build? [21:06] <blindcoder> when and where is your talk, anyway? [21:06] <daja77> didn't work due some created X11 directory which was created instead of symlinked and broke x.org [21:06] <blindcoder> sucks [21:06] <daja77> tomorrow evening 19:00 @ clug [21:07] <daja77> yes I cursed ... [21:07] <daja77> if it doesn't finish in time, I'll just boot uo the laptop from hd [21:08] <blindcoder> sucks, but nothing to be done about it :( [21:09] <daja77> there is a chance as the livecd doesn't have that many packages [21:10] <daja77> and x.org build just started now ;) [21:13] <daja77> ok the fixes are in, apart from tha logo crap [21:14] <blindcoder> good :) [21:15] <netrunner> .o( blindy wants to nail daja ) *readingbacklog* [21:15] Action: daja77 kicking netrunner [21:16] <blindcoder> netrunner: with questions, yeah [21:17] <netrunner> daja77: do you need build power? my build server is idling ... [21:17] <daja77> well I'd have to download the image then, no fun with isdn ... [21:18] [anders-mcafee] (~snafu@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [21:28] <daja77> hah, almost fixed that logo thing [21:29] <daja77> .oO (editing latex stylesheets is fun - NO!) [21:29] SteffenP (steffen@p54995AEF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:32] <daja77> blindcoder: want to have another look? [21:37] <blindcoder> I looked twice and those were the things I found [21:37] <blindcoder> also, I think I'm going to bed now [21:37] <blindcoder> need to get up at 4am again [21:38] <daja77> oh n8 [21:38] <netrunner> daja77: same link? [21:41] <netrunner> slide 7: "fi xiert" [21:42] <netrunner> slide 9: "Grafi k" [21:42] <netrunner> is that my font? [21:43] <netrunner> slide 11: zwiscehn [21:43] <ija> netrunner: no :) [21:45] <netrunner> ija: ? [21:46] <daja77> hm strange I wrote that together [21:47] <daja77> thx for the other typos [21:48] <ija> netrunner: sorry, please forgo itt, i'm verwirrt [21:48] <daja77> confused ^^ [21:48] <daja77> ok these gaps are not in the postscript ... [21:49] <netrunner> slide 25: z.b. -> z.B. [21:49] <ija> yes thx, daja [21:49] <netrunner> slide 26: chrrot -> chroot [21:49] <netrunner> slide 26: "Konfi guration" [21:49] <ija> 22: sowhl -> sowohl [21:50] <netrunner> slide 26:"ur -> f"ur [21:50] <daja77> I am screwed ^^ [21:50] <netrunner> slide 27: "fi lled" [21:50] <ija> 24: gemäß [21:51] <netrunner> and slide 29 misses an item in the topic list on the left [21:51] <netrunner> which might be intended but looks wrong somehow. [21:51] <daja77> netrunner: those gaps aren't there in the postscript, no idea [21:52] <netrunner> hm. do you see them too? [21:52] <ija> daja77: i also see them [21:52] <daja77> of course [21:52] <netrunner> daja77: maybe \usepackage{times} could help? it uses some nicer fonts ... [21:52] <netrunner> daja77: how do you create the pdf? pdflatex or dvipdf? [21:53] <daja77> ps2pdf [21:53] <daja77> unfortunately pdflatex doesn't work with ha prosper [21:53] <netrunner> I get pdf directly from my prosper. [21:55] <netrunner> I latex it and then use dvipdf. (according to my makefile) [21:55] <netrunner> ah no, that was no slide ... [21:55] <netrunner> latex ./${BASENAME}.tex; dvips -Ppdf -G0 ${BASENAME}.dvi -o ${BASENAME}.ps; ps2pdf -dPDFsettings=/prepress ${BASENAME}.ps ${BASENAME}.pdf [21:56] <daja77> ah [21:56] <netrunner> and in the .tex header: \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen} [21:56] <netrunner> daja77: maybe the prepress stuff does magic or the -Ppdf or so. [22:00] <daja77> the gaps are still there [22:01] <daja77> I'll use the ps for presentation, but it still sucks [22:03] <daja77> new version there, still with gaps [22:08] netrunne1 (~andreas@p549828F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:12] netrunner (~andreas@p54982C6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:12] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [22:45] treo (~xfman@Dcdb8.d.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [00:00] --- Fri Jun 10 2005