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[00:08] <netrunner> as wil I miss devmeeting. or maybe you'll make it at my place :) at that time I live in the suburbs of St.Petersburg :)
[00:18] <daja77> that blog is nice to put all the daily crap into
[00:18] <netrunner> n8
[00:18] <daja77> n8 netrunner 
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[08:25] <blindcoder> moin
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[14:09] <ooberhaxxor> does rocklinux have a trial version
[14:12] <blindcoder> yeah, you can get a 30-day trial from iso.rocklinux.de after which it will eat your harddisk, annoy your neighbor and kill your cat
[14:13] <netrunner> blindcoder: I told you, leave the cat for me!
[14:13] Action: netrunner going to lecture.
[14:13] <ooberhaxxor> lol
[14:14] <ooberhaxxor> ok ill try it out
[14:14] <ooberhaxxor> if i like it ill ask for permission to put an ad for it on my site :)
[14:14] <netrunner> ooberhaxxor: permission to make advertisment for rocklinux costs $.01 per page view.
[14:15] <esden> ooberhaxxor: no you may not put an add on your site cuz we are a closed community and do not want to get public ;)
[14:15] <netrunner> ooberhaxxor: alternatively you can pay in ml of beer at next meeting :)
[14:15] <esden> netrunner: I take two ;)
[14:15] <blindcoder> ooberhaxxor: don't take them serious (me neither, for that matter)
[14:16] <ooberhaxxor> lol
[14:16] <esden> blindcoder: you are a fun stopper! >_<
[14:17] <ooberhaxxor> well xandros sucks
[14:17] <ooberhaxxor> anyone used xandros before?
[14:17] <esden> sorry I only know the name ;)
[14:17] <ooberhaxxor> it stalled at hardware detect during boot up and the support team told me to edit the VGA code lines by adding quiet to the end of them
[14:19] Action: blindcoder laughs
[14:19] <blindcoder> well, what you don't see can't irritate you :)
[14:19] <ooberhaxxor> ya i know
[14:20] <ooberhaxxor> i tolod them that i was looking for a product with better support
[14:20] <esden> I can remember that I had to add my graphics card pci footprint or so to rock some time ago so that it gets propperly detected ... but I think that is a different thing
[14:20] <ooberhaxxor> :)
[14:21] <ooberhaxxor> what base is rocklinux?
[14:21] <netrunner> ooberhaxxor: thin air
[14:22] <ooberhaxxor> kk
[14:22] <esden> ooberhaxxor: rocklinux
[14:22] <blindcoder> nothing is as solid a base as rock :)
[14:22] <ooberhaxxor> good slogan there
[14:22] <ooberhaxxor> :)
[14:22] <esden> blindcoder: that depends on the environment temperature ;)
[14:23] <blindcoder> esden: at the temperature where rock starts to melt, nothing is a solid base anymore
[14:23] <esden> blindcoder: erm ... good point
[14:24] <netrunner> blindcoder: even fluids have different consistencies
[14:24] <esden> ahh blindcoder ... I tried to downoad something on pallas with torrent ... btdownloadcurses segfaults ... :/
[14:25] <esden> iirc this problem was there the time I had an intel machine still at home ...
[14:26] <esden> .oO(note to self: need to get a monitor with 13W3 connector for his Ultra 60)
[14:27] <blindcoder> esden: BT segfaulting, that's the old ncurses-in-/lib problem
[14:27] <esden> I think it should be fixed some time ... don't you think?
[14:27] <blindcoder> esden: there never was a consensus on _how_ it should be fixed
[14:27] <esden> and when it is an old problem why is it still there?
[14:28] <esden> urgh ... perfect
[14:28] <blindcoder> esden: it works when symlinking /lib/libncurses* from /usr/lib/
[14:28] <esden> when and where is the next rocklinx meeting?
[14:28] <blindcoder> esden: probably on LT Karlsruhe
[14:28] <esden> ahh ok ... so I will not be there :(
[14:28] <blindcoder> I'm rebuilding python on pallas
[14:28] <blindcoder> me neither, too far from here
[14:29] <esden> before exams ... no way ... for me
[14:29] Action: esden found a carbon port of nethack ... let's see if I find the sources somewhere to bring it to slashem
[14:33] <esden> http://www.mcgroarty.net/dvzine.org/zine/index.html
[14:34] <blindcoder> esden: bt works now, please handle it with care due to the large pipe the machine hangs on
[14:35] <esden> ack!
[14:35] <esden> I only need 2,6GB if it is a problem then tell me cuz then I pay it
[14:38] <esden> nice ... the tracker is not reachable ... so this solution falls >_<
[14:38] <esden> perfect
[14:38] <esden> have to find another way ...
[14:39] <blindcoder> heh
[14:39] <blindcoder> well, you know, you have to pay 10 EUR / month and as long as the total traffic doesn't break through 200 GB I don't care
[14:55] <esden> kk
[15:00] <daja77> ts these dorks, suggesting knoppix, ubunti and other stuff for machines with a pentium and 64mb ram
[15:02] <blindcoder> heh
[15:02] <blindcoder> they'll have fun for a loooooong time then :D
[15:03] <daja77> knoppix won't start at all, because their ramdisk is bigger than 64mb
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[15:04] <blindcoder> d'oh
[15:07] <esden> who is suggesting knoppix? o_O
[15:20] <blindcoder> slashot karma whores, mostly :)
[15:33] <daja77> no another webforum
[15:33] <daja77> esden: don't worry not me ^^
[15:38] <esden> daja77: puhh ... you scared me to death ;)
[15:38] <daja77> hehe
[15:38] <daja77> will you be there at LT?
[15:39] <esden> nope
[15:39] <esden> it is before my exams so...
[15:39] <daja77> ic
[15:39] Action: esden testing his typing abilities on dvorak keyboard ... CPS: 4.17  CPM: 250.31 on a all rows test ... I wonder if it is good or bad :/
[15:43] <daja77> no idea
[15:43] <blindcoder> depends on the failure rate :)
[15:52] <esden> Total: 945  Misses: 49  Ratio: 94.81%
[15:53] <esden> that is ok in my opinion when you consider the awkward words they use in this tests that noone can really read and speak ;)
[15:53] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[15:54] <esden> what was the name of the game with the flying words? that you have to type before they reach the right border of the screen?
[15:54] <blindcoder> pff, no idea
[15:55] <esden> http://ls.purkki.org/typespeed/ <- typespeed ;)
[16:04] <esden> urgh that game is heavy >_<
[16:06] <blindcoder> I really should stop reading /. comments
[16:06] <esden> hehe ... what are they writing that you should stop?
[16:06] <daja77> blindcoder: I thought you never read comment
[16:06] <daja77> +s
[16:07] <blindcoder> let me put it this way: The amount of fun in recent MT comics is equivalent to the amount of wisdom in recent /. comments
[16:07] <blindcoder> daja77: I've started some time ago to read comments when I'm really bored
[16:07] <daja77> *hehe*
[16:08] <daja77> perhaps the same reason I argued with religious fanatic people on the usenet yesterday
[16:08] <blindcoder> --verbose please :)
[16:08] <daja77> http://blog.f4k3.net/page/daja77 ^^
[16:12] <blindcoder> heh
[16:13] <daja77> and this from people you started studying with
[16:15] <blindcoder> I'm not into all this karma/reincarnation/whatever stuff to really have an opinion about it
[16:16] <daja77> I just know people you are ill enough to not be able to reflect anything, so this idea seems strange to me
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[16:19] <esden> daja77 killed a dog ... I have proof!!! : http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/car-2005-04-04/.tmp/IMG_1986.JPG.html
[16:19] <blindcoder> heh
[16:20] <ija> *g*
[16:20] <daja77> hehe I didn't do it
[16:21] <esden> daja77: still I have proof that you did ... one can easy recognize your feet and your chair on that photo
[16:21] <daja77> but the dog is tsill alive ;)
[16:24] <esden> no one cane easy see that the dog is dead ... I will bring that proof to the police now ... *running*
[16:24] <blindcoder> details, details
[16:24] Action: blindcoder thinks about taking friday off
[16:24] <esden> daja is a murderer daja is a murderer
[16:25] <daja77> dunno that dumb dog just layed itself before the wheelchair
[16:25] <esden> daja77: details .... as blindcoder already said ;)
[16:26] <daja77> it had a watchdog pose before that, then it just fell down, too lazy that watchdog
[16:26] <esden> rofl
[16:26] <esden> you probably shot it with your eyes!
[16:26] <daja77> quickly after I shot that picture it got up and moved away
[16:27] <esden> humm ... now I know why I always feel so dizzy in your presence ;) ... I have to take sunglasses with me the next time I expect seeing you ;)
[16:27] <daja77> hehe
[16:27] <esden> daja77: do you have proof?
[16:27] <daja77> that the dog is alive?
[16:27] <esden> ack
[16:28] <daja77> didn't take another pic ...
[16:28] <esden> haha ... you are soooooo doooomed ;)
[16:28] <daja77> my nemesis
[16:29] <esden> muahahaha phear my mighty picture downloading skill!!!
[16:29] <daja77> will you appear in my dreams again?
[16:29] <esden> erm ... no that is nasty ;) ... the last time ... no no no ... forget it ;)
[16:30] <daja77> *gg*
[16:30] Action: daja77 feeling better now
[16:30] <esden> erm ... *cough* humm ... damn
[16:31] <blindcoder> erotic dreams about esden?
[16:31] <blindcoder> ESDEN IS MINE! NO TOUCH!
[16:31] Action: daja77 move esden to blindy
[16:32] <esden> blindcoder: that should remain classified ... -_-
[16:32] <daja77> explicit content
[16:33] <daja77> blindcoder: besides that were just nightmares
[16:33] <esden> humm ... I need a coding minion >_<
[16:34] <blindcoder> I need someone to work for me so I can sleep more
[16:34] <blindcoder> and someone to fix silo, of course
[16:35] <esden> blindcoder: take a nap when you wait for your machines to boot ;)
[16:35] <daja77> *hehe*
[16:35] Action: daja77 should read some papers
[16:36] Action: esden should code some yacc stuff
[16:36] <daja77> urgs
[16:36] Action: daja77 should code some suif stuff
[16:38] Action: ooberhaxxor should look up yacc and suif
[16:38] <blindcoder> esden: no machines at the moment
[16:39] <blindcoder> just sitting around idle
[16:39] <daja77> ooberhaxxor: just yacc should be enough
[16:39] <blindcoder> yacc is hours and hours of fun :)
[16:39] <ooberhaxxor> i feel so lost in here being a linux noob :) thats why im here listening
[16:40] <ooberhaxxor> i have a question tho
[16:40] <esden> hehe ... ooberhaxxor you are free to comment and question ;)
[16:40] <ooberhaxxor> i saw you saying that ubuntu soesnt load with 64 mb ram+ or something and also knoppix.. what is the deal with that?
[16:41] <esden> daja77: this answer is yours ;)
[16:41] <ooberhaxxor> i probably misunderstood but i am curious now
[16:41] <blindcoder> daja77 is our livecd guru :)
[16:42] <daja77> dunno if ubuntu boots on that machine
[16:42] <daja77> blindcoder: no fake that is
[16:42] <daja77> knoppix won't its ramdisk is too big for only 64mb memory
[16:42] <blindcoder> daja77: you saw too much of Yoda :)
[16:42] <blindcoder> a ramdisk with 64MB
[16:42] <blindcoder> I fit a whole _system_ into less than half that!
[16:43] <daja77> well I spoke of the knoppix ramdisk
[16:43] <daja77> blindcoder: ack saw ep III on sunday
[16:43] <blindcoder> 30 minutes till I can leave :)
[16:43] <ooberhaxxor> ok well not worried about knoppix anyways but was curious about it
[16:44] <blindcoder> daja77: the swordfights were total crap
[16:44] <ooberhaxxor> is rocklinux hard for a noob to learn?
[16:44] <daja77> it is even difficult to bbot it on 128mb machines
[16:44] <esden> blindcoder: you know knoppix bloat ... it loads X, kde and mozilla at startup ;) no wonder that it eats up a terrabyte of ram ;)
[16:44] <blindcoder> *laugh* yeah :)
[16:44] <blindcoder> ooberhaxxor: I'd say yes
[16:45] <ooberhaxxor> well the "thin air" comment made me believe so earlier so i got ubuntu for starting out
[16:45] <esden> ooberhaxxor: it has a pretty steap learning curve for a beginner yes ... 
[16:45] <ooberhaxxor> well i will be hanging out here asking lots-o-questions so i can use it soon
[16:46] <esden> ooberhaxxor: the thin air comment only means that it is not based on any other distribution ... it is everything self brewed
[16:46] <ooberhaxxor> i know
[16:46] <ooberhaxxor> those tend to be harder to use
[16:46] <ooberhaxxor> kind of like Yoper right?
[16:47] <esden> erm ... debian, suse, redhat, fedora, slackware and many other distributions are not based on other distributions ... that does not mean that they are hard ...
[16:47] <ooberhaxxor> i looked at yoper the other day and had to make my own partitions.. i was successful but i stopped there cuz who know whats next :)
[16:47] <ooberhaxxor> i have a lot to learn
[16:48] <esden> ooberhaxxor: we all have to ;)
[16:48] <esden> beside the ones that gave their life up ;)
[16:50] <ooberhaxxor> well im headed to sleep but i will be back tomorrow night.. thanks for the help
[16:50] <esden> np
[16:51] Nick change: ooberhaxxor -> ooberhaxxor-afk
[16:52] <esden> humm ooberhaxxor-afk is from tokyo as it seems
[16:52] <ooberhaxxor-afk> no
[16:52] <ooberhaxxor-afk> okinawa
[16:53] <esden> ahh ok ... the provider you use is based it tokyo then?
[16:53] <ooberhaxxor-afk> i am in the U.S military (not for long)
[16:53] <ooberhaxxor-afk> yes the provider is l
[16:54] <esden> ahh ok ... ;)
[16:54] <esden> but I was not far away ... with my estimation ... at least when looking from the distance of germany ;)
[16:55] <ooberhaxxor-afk> lol
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[17:00] <treo> hi
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[17:05] <blindcoder> I'm gone
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[17:31] Action: fake just had 20 A2-ROCK-Linux Posters printed
[17:31] <esden> urgh ;)
[17:32] <fake> yes
[17:32] <esden> you want to wallpaper the city with them? ;)
[17:32] <fake> the copier was broken
[17:32] <fake> initially i only wanted 10
[17:32] <fake> but they have small flaws
[17:33] <esden> everything has flaws ;)
[17:36] <daja77> hi fake
[17:36] <fake> well, i argumented i couldn't use them, but would get rid of them ;-)
[17:36] <fake> the he had to print 10 more
[17:36] <fake> hihi
[17:37] <fake> we can pin them up at linuxtag to give directions to our booth
[17:37] <daja77> and one to pin at oru heads
[17:37] <fake> each ;) front and back ;)
[17:38] <daja77> ^^
[17:38] <daja77> so we don't need t-shirts
[17:39] <fake> hihi
[17:39] <fake> we'd only need one bigger poster
[17:39] <fake> i only have the hand-painted one from rene's ex
[17:40] <fake> which is severely 'used' from 21c3
[17:40] <daja77> blindy sent bigger posters iirc
[17:40] <fake> he sent posters? where?
[17:40] <daja77> dunno to whom, he printed some for clt
[17:41] <fake> would be neat
[17:41] <daja77> blindcoder: ping
[17:41] <fake> (i also printed one of the 'history of programming languages' posters from o'reilly)
[17:41] <fake> (for my flat *g*)
[17:42] Action: fake bbl
[17:42] <daja77> hehe
[17:49] <netrunner> hey, let's support the ban on this ugly chemical http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
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[19:06] <Freak> _hannes: ah, I was just looking for you
[19:06] <Freak> is this just your client reconnecting?
[19:12] <_hannes> no
[19:12] <_hannes> started it since last reboot
[19:21] <netrunner> *habenwill* http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9508
[19:57] <esden> beautifull weather ... no pollen in the air ... simply perfect! ;)
[19:57] <esden> hi _hannes 
[20:03] <_hannes> hi esden 
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[20:55] <esden> netrunner: thank you very much for the link!
[20:55] <esden> it is extraordinary interesting!
[20:56] <esden> I mean the genre descripton stuff
[20:56] <netrunner> esden: you're welcome
[21:07] Action: esden just bought a track from ITMS because it is listed there ... Jungle section, Liquid Funk sample 3 ;)
[21:07] <esden> High Contrast - Return of Forever
[21:16] <esden> wow amazing ... not only the sample rulez but also the track ... nice ;)
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[23:19] <th> we dont have a mrtg package?
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[23:43] <daja77> re
[23:44] <_hannes> hi daja77 
[23:51] <esden> hi daja77 
[23:52] <esden> boots are deathly
[23:52] <daja77> hey esden, still here, great
[23:52] <esden> hehe ;)
[23:52] <esden> I had a Goars boot ... >_<
[23:52] <esden> that stuff is really deathly
[23:54] <daja77> a what?
[23:55] <esden> "ein goars (oder wie es auch genannt wird "disel") stiefel"
[23:56] <esden> that is the equivalent with two "Mass" (one litre) bier
[23:56] <daja77> alcohol?
[23:56] <esden> yes daja77 that is alcohol
[23:57] <esden> bier with coke and juice siroup
[23:57] <esden> that stuff kills one ... at least when you try to drink it with two other people in 20mins ;)
[23:58] <daja77> hehe
[23:58] <daja77> we still haven't drunk together ^^
[23:58] <esden> ack ... that is on my todo since two or three years now ...
[23:58] <daja77> *gg*
[23:59] <esden> I have to come by in Chemnitz extra to do that I think ;)
[23:59] <daja77> hehe why not
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