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[02:37] <pq23ST24A> daja77: on nightshift again ?
[02:40] <pq23ST24A> does someone know a tiny -or even smaller :)- sys, to format a hdd with ext2/3 or reiser, that contains bad sectors ?
[02:41] <_hannes_> re
[02:41] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: hi there
[02:41] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: you mean a linux distro?
[02:42] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: yeap
[02:42] <mnemoc> i like bgrescue
[02:42] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: rocklinux?
[02:42] <_hannes_> :)
[02:42] <pq23ST24A> mnemoc: 1 disk distro ?
[02:43] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: btw - tried rock - but it doesnīt work !
[02:44] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: which build?
[02:44] <pq23ST24A> scandisk couldnīt find anything - but now iīve made FORMAT C: with freeDOS and found bad sectors spread all over the drive
[02:45] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: rock bbs-2.0.3 pmmx
[02:46] <_hannes_> _hannes_: you marked all the bad sectors?
[02:46] <pq23ST24A> i wanna mark up the bad blocks so that rock wonīt access them on installation
[02:48] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: can i mark them with my rock installCD ?
[02:52] <pq23ST24A> btw - ZipSlack could be installed to FAT16/32 could this be done with rockLinux 2 ?
[02:54] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: where are you ?
[02:55] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: installing rocklinux on a FAT16/32 partition?
[02:55] <_hannes_> i don't think you want this
[02:56] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: but i can install 98SE - it even supports my prism_2.0 - but i donīt want this either
[02:56] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: and you miss all the acls and so...
[02:58] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: uuh
[02:58] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: i think itīs a shame, that some crappy old bunch of software rubbish (WIN - ALL of them) works with this Hardware
[02:58] <pq23ST24A> _hannes_: ..and i canīt make Linux work
[02:59] <_hannes_> pq23ST24A: try to format the hdd with mkfs.ext3 -c
[03:01] <pq23ST24A> ok - iīll give it a try - tomorrow (or later on today) - but i guess thatīs the same Slack tries in setup - and that also failed !
[03:02] <pq23ST24A> mnemoc: what kind of distro is that BGRESCUE youīve mentioned earlier ?
[03:03] <mnemoc> http://freshmeat.net/projects/bgrescue/
[03:04] <pq23ST24A> mnemoc: thanx - iīll take a quick look and then go to bed
[03:05] <pq23ST24A> C U - and MANY THANKS !!
[03:07] <_hannes_> gn8 pq23ST24A 
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[04:36] <madtux> hello.
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[05:20] <youngcoder> moin
[05:53] <madtux> yar
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[08:15] <blindcoder> moin
[08:15] <netrunner> moin, 2
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[09:01] <madtux> yar
[09:02] <blindcoder> madtux!
[09:05] <daja77> madtux!
[09:07] Action: netrunner adding possibility to extend kernel configuration
[09:08] <daja77> great
[09:08] <daja77> _hannes: ?
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[09:56] <clifford> the build with fixed priorities:
[09:56] <clifford> 2982 builds total, 1002 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[09:56] <clifford> hi, btw.
[09:57] <blindcoder> moin clifford 
[09:57] <blindcoder> looks promising :)
[09:57] <th> moin
[09:57] <th> hmm how can i change order of scsi controllers by using kernel parameters?
[09:58] <clifford> blindcoder: indeed, especially because there was no error for about 500 pkgs now..
[10:00] <clifford> th: we (linbit) have a hack for that, I think it is not possible easily with standard kernels
[10:01] <clifford> our initrd is using a "insmod=" kernel parameter so we can change the order in which the modules are loaded..
[10:01] <th> ahh i see
[10:02] <th> hmm scsi as modules...
[10:02] <blindcoder> speaking of initrd, I should clean up the initrd code and move parts of it where they belong
[10:03] <blindcoder> (ie, the fsck code out of the loop-aes part)
[10:10] <th> /etc/opt/samba/... i really dislike this naming scheme
[10:10] <th> is trunk still doing the same?
[10:22] <blindcoder> I think so
[10:22] <blindcoder> at least /etc/opt/apache/
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[10:39] <netrunner> since when are the pkg_linux{,24,26}_{pre,post}.conf not evaluated any more?
[10:40] Action: netrunner shocked
[10:40] <blindcoder> since they have to be renamen to pkg_linux_{pre,post}.conf
[10:40] <blindcoder> and from within there needs to be checked if it's 24 or 26
[10:40] <blindcoder> because the package is now called `linux' and no longer `linux24' and `linux26'
[10:42] Action: netrunner bangs his head on his table
[10:42] <blindcoder> poor table
[10:42] <blindcoder> which package contains those files?
[10:47] <netrunner> bootsplash at least. I was just working on misdn-user when I noticed.
[10:47] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:47] <blindcoder> uml_utilities, too
[10:47] Action: blindcoder running a find
[10:49] <SMP> th: that naming scheme is an FHS requirement
[10:49] <SMP> but it's insane nevertheless
[10:51] Action: blindcoder would really prefer /opt/apache/etc/ or /etc/apache/ :(
[10:51] <blindcoder> would make more sense at least
[10:52] <netrunner> well, opt packages get their seperate configdir, what's wrong with that?
[10:53] <SMP> netrunner: pathes to the config files change depending on where the package is installed. that's unintuitive.
[10:53] <blindcoder> $(PREFIX)/etc would be intuitive I think
[10:53] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:54] <SMP> but I throw away distributed config files and init scripts anyway, so I don't really care
[10:54] <blindcoder> rsbac and vserver also still use linux{24,26}
[10:54] Action: blindcoder fixing it up
[10:56] Action: netrunner will take care of uml
[10:57] <blindcoder> okay
[10:57] <clifford> /etc/opt/apache is FHS. i don't see any reason why we should break with FHS here..
[10:59] <th> ahh k
[10:59] <th> didn't know that
[10:59] <th> sounded just very strange to me.
[11:28] <netrunner> muahahabruell http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/20/20358/1.html
[11:28] <netrunner> these freaks :)
[11:33] <blindcoder> fits well with me just having started to read Stupid White Men
[12:05] <daja77> <- off to karlsruhe
[12:05] <blindcoder> have a safe ride
[12:05] <daja77> thx
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[12:55] <netrunner> blindcoder: could you please leave out bootsplash? I am currently working on it.
[12:55] <blindcoder> netrunner: already sent it
[12:56] <netrunner> I know, that's why I said it.
[12:57] <blindcoder> *sigh*, give me five minutes
[12:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: no need to hurry.
[12:58] <netrunner> blindcoder: bootsplash was missing a pkg_linux26_pre.conf which I already had here. so I merged these two now and changed the way how they find the correct patches.
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[12:58] <blindcoder> done
[12:59] <netrunner> thx
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[13:40] <cfan> does some one have lddconfig in his system
[13:40] <cfan>  i dont havd lddconfig in fc3..
[13:40] <cfan>  does some one have..
[13:40] <blindcoder> no
[13:42] <cfan> it was ldconfig
[13:43] <blindcoder> glibc23: sbin/ldconfig
[13:43] <cfan> ya i did locate.. thought it was lddconfig.. and got confused
[13:45] <cfan> blindcoder: it is..
[13:49] <cfan> what contents do you ppl have in .vimrc file.. for optimising it for programming
[13:50] <blindcoder> there are some good examples on the web, try www.fefe.de I think he has a good one online
[13:50] <blindcoder> otherwise search for daniel reutther, he also has one online
[13:52] <netrunner> cfan: the sample vimrc that comes with vi is a good start.
[13:53] <cfan> netrunner: oh..
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[14:39] <veki> hi
[14:40] <veki> I am compiling now boot rescue target
[14:40] <veki> Minimal router target comipiled on machine with CPU 450MHz for less than 36 hours
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[18:23] <treo> hi
[19:20] <daja77> _hannes: ping
[19:23] <blindcoder> daja77: reached Karlsruhe safely?
[19:23] <blindcoder> hannes is offline AFAICT
[19:23] <blindcoder> and no, he's got no mobile
[19:23] <blindcoder> brb
[19:24] <daja77> damn
[19:24] <daja77> the booth is empty
[19:24] <daja77> _hannes: if you read this later,I am currently at the kde booth for some inet, cu
[19:38] <blindcoder> that is... Bad
[19:39] <daja77> and it looks like x.org is using it for its deposite
[19:40] <blindcoder> . . .
[19:41] <blindcoder> does that depress me enough to watch a Futurama Ep?
[19:42] <daja77> you need to be depressed for that?
[19:42] <daja77> shall I call you marvin? ;)
[19:43] <blindcoder> nah, that'd be "amtsanmassung" over in #nethack 
[19:43] <blindcoder> they wouldn't like that
[19:43] <blindcoder> marvin is the maintainer of the amiga port of nethack and has an ascension rate >99%
[19:44] <daja77> <- never played it
[19:44] <blindcoder> you should :)
[19:45] <daja77> perhaps
[19:45] <blindcoder> it's a sysadmin-sanity-keep-intact-tool :D
[19:45] <daja77> i am no sysadmin atm ^^
[19:46] <blindcoder> you're a geek, that's okay
[19:47] <daja77> *gg*
[19:52] <treo> is some of you going to the linux tag?
[19:52] <treo> s/some/someone
[19:52] <daja77> <- is already there
[19:53] <treo> nice ;) I wanted to go there on saturday
[19:53] <daja77> you are welcome
[20:26] <_hannes> re
[20:26] <_hannes> daja77: you are in karlsruhe?
[20:26] <_hannes> daja77: and i haven't cleaned up
[20:30] <_hannes> daja77: has someone the mobile phone number of daja77 
[20:31] <blindcoder> not me :(
[20:31] <blindcoder> I have fakes (I think) who might have daja77s
[20:31] <blindcoder> or go to clifford.at for cliffords number who surely has it
[20:41] <daja77> _hannes: yes I am here, the x.org ppljust got us 3 tables and removed their stuff
[20:44] <blindcoder> woo, nice!
[20:44] <blindcoder> I expect a full report of Day 0 tomorrow :D
[20:44] <daja77> :)
[20:45] <daja77> dunno if we should get another table
[20:45] <daja77> there are still some left, because gnome e.g. are not here yet
[20:45] <blindcoder> nah, leave them some stuff
[20:45] <blindcoder> we're not egomaniacs after all, are we?
[20:45] <blindcoder> hmm
[20:45] <daja77> well there are not only 3 left or so
[20:45] <blindcoder> go get those tables!
[20:45] <daja77> ^^
[20:46] <blindcoder> and make _hannes put up those posters
[20:46] <daja77> blindcoder: can you please look up how many of us are registered, have no http access atm
[20:46] <blindcoder> just a moment
[20:47] <blindcoder> as soon as I find it...
[20:48] <daja77> hm perhaps that were in the mailsfrom linuxtag,org only
[20:48] <treo> so there will be a rocklinux booth at linuxtag?
[20:49] <daja77> treo: there is already one :)
[20:49] <treo> hmm, nice, than I'll visit you ;)
[20:49] <daja77> btw does someone brings a switch along?
[20:49] <treo> I hope I'll find you there ^^
[20:49] <daja77> treo: next to x.org and linux multimedia
[20:49] <treo> ok ^^
[20:49] <blindcoder> nothing in it
[20:50] <blindcoder> daja77: at least five, I'd say
[20:50] <daja77> I remember 7 or 8
[20:51] <daja77> anyway
[21:37] <netrunner> hm, if I do a hook_add in pkg_foo_pre.conf, it does not make it into the hooks :(
[21:39] <blindcoder> it should
[21:39] <netrunner> well, it doesn't :)
[21:39] <blindcoder> maybe it's overwritten
[21:41] <netrunner> arg.
[21:41] <netrunner> did I mention "/me bangs his head on the table" ?
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[21:52] <esden> mooooh
[22:00] <netrunner> meow
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[23:25] <_hannes> re
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