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[10:37] <reinaldo> hua
[10:37] <reinaldo> moin
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[11:06] <[raphael]> hi *
[11:18] <cutio> aloha
[11:20] <daja77> hi [raphael] & cutio
[12:01] <youngcoder> damn load lvl'ing
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[15:01] <youngcoder> moin
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[17:09] <[raphael]> rockbot: ping
[17:09] <[raphael]> rockbot: show features
[17:15] <daja77> rockbot is only for logging
[17:25] <[raphael]> I see, I somehow remember me testing this a while ago(?)
[17:25] <daja77> hehe no idea
[17:25] <daja77> are you from vienna?
[17:26] <[raphael]> not exactly, but I live near Linz
[17:26] <[raphael]> so, rather close I'd say
[17:26] <daja77> ah ok, so i think I know your name from the ml
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[17:26] <[raphael]> yes :) there are some mails spread over it during the last years
[17:27] <daja77> have you been to some rock related meetings or sth?
[17:28] <[raphael]> I have met clifford some time ago, but ... no, I haven't been to a "rock"-related event yet
[17:29] <daja77> ic
[17:29] <[raphael]> maybe... can you quickly bring me up-to-date about rock? (I've read the July status report on the homepage)
[17:29] <daja77> what do you want to know?
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[17:29] <[raphael]> hmm... well, roadmap maybe, and in particular about ./scripts/Update-System
[17:30] <[raphael]> I think updating existing systems is one of the most important "features" in the long run
[17:30] <[raphael]> (well, at least for experienced users)
[17:32] <[raphael]> how are things progressing?
[17:32] <[raphael]> (if you like, just tell me what you know or would like to tell)
[17:33] <daja77> hm just digging for the road map
[17:35] <[raphael]> take your time ;) I'll be here all evening
[17:38] <daja77> ah here svn.clifford.at/wiki/todos-for-3.0.txt
[17:47] <[raphael]> hmmhmmm
[17:52] <daja77> we made progress on the dependency generation and in rocket
[17:55] <[raphael]> daja77: where are you from?
[17:55] <daja77> chemnitz, germany
[17:56] <[raphael]> ah, nice location for certain events I guess :)
[17:56] <daja77> you mean the one I am involved in? ;)
[17:57] <[raphael]> are you organising the chemnitzer Linux Tag?
[17:57] <daja77> not alone, but yes
[17:57] <[raphael]> or the ccc... sth?
[17:58] <[raphael]> nice :)
[17:58] <daja77> no ccc ;)
[17:58] <mnemoc_> hehe
[17:58] <daja77> hi mnemoc_
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[17:58] <mnemoc> hi daja77
[17:59] <daja77> mnemoc: just played with ploticus, I am quite happy with it, I created the graphics I needed in some minutes where gnuplot is still failing at this ...
[17:59] Action: [raphael] just filled another hard disk with a rock installation...
[17:59] <daja77> cool
[17:59] <mnemoc> daja77: nice :) ploticus is my favorite
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[18:02] <daja77> it was quite easy to get it done, I liked that
[18:04] <mnemoc> :)
[18:07] <daja77> [raphael]: ah and besides stf implemented postinstall scripts
[18:07] <daja77> I don't know about Update-System, but Update-Src works at least
[18:08] <mnemoc> :)
[18:11] <daja77> and clifford told me that he'll have the binary repositories online soon
[18:11] <daja77> that's the progress that I know about
[18:12] <mnemoc> crystal? what archs?
[18:12] <daja77> yes for crystal, guess it will be for x86 first, and x86-64 and ppc later
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[18:23] <[raphael]> daja77: oh, postinstall scripts is good :)
[18:23] <[raphael]> I would just need them right now
[18:24] <[raphael]> but me having a too old version for sure (half a year old)
[18:25] <[raphael]> besides, I'm running an x86-64 machine for two weeks now (with NetBSD 3)
[18:28] <daja77> nice machine
[18:33] <[raphael]> uhmmm postinstall: ldconfig && updatedb && grub-install should be enough for a first boot, right?
[18:34] <[raphael]> oh, maybe passwd or the like...
[18:35] <[raphael]> (I'm sorry for the OS)
[18:41] <[raphael]> oh, nice :) first boot worked out of the box
[18:43] <[raphael]> daja77: what design goals do you currently have for ROCK? Still a DBK? What target audience do you have (the average ROCK user)?
[18:45] <daja77> rocklinux will be a dbk, crystal will be the official distribution based on rocklinux, which can be used like other distros
[18:52] <[raphael]> I think the ROCK DBK would be a very useful tool for larger areas - governmental projects and the like, or large companies, needing a distribution suiting (only & particularly) their needs
[18:52] <daja77> I agree
[18:54] <[raphael]> so if ROCK provides a set of tools to easily create such distributions - that already include management utilities adapted to every such custom distro (that's the point) - that's basically a good thing
[18:54] <[raphael]> and I think ROCK is already a long way into that direction
[18:55] <[raphael]> (or - the point is also the utilities to create the distros themselves of course, in a powerful way)
[18:55] <daja77> :)
[19:08] <[raphael]> how "stable" is Emerge-Pkg?
[19:09] <daja77> it works quite well, but do a mine -r bevor emerging a lib, saw strange stuff this we with updated libs
[19:12] <[raphael]> alright :)
[19:13] <[raphael]> oh... what a beautiful operating system!!
[19:13] <daja77> :)
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[20:05] <[raphael]> oh... a kernel panic
[20:05] <[raphael]> heh :) division by 0000
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