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[00:28] <SMP> Gnome is so retarded, even the their automagic bug-reporting tool segfaults [00:34] <daja77_> O_o [00:38] <SMP> and debugging nautilus is SO not fun [00:38] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dsl-213-023-152-160.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:38] <daja77_> nautilus, haven't used it for ages [00:39] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dsl-082-082-096-163.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:39] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [00:39] <SMP> you can't avoid it on the Gnome desktop [00:40] <daja77_> yes I know [00:40] <daja77_> <- watching south park [01:11] <daja77_> hehe somebody reported that the picture I created with dot is big enough to crash his internet explorer while zooming in [01:12] <menomc> what image? packages? [01:14] <daja77_> menomc: https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/visual_parse_tree.png that one [01:15] <menomc> it doesn't even download here :( [01:16] <menomc> donwloaded.. [01:16] <daja77_> oh why? [01:16] <menomc> poor bw :) [01:17] <menomc> firefox tells me it's "damaged" [01:17] <daja77_> interesting [01:18] Action: menomc trying to open it on 'display' [01:19] <menomc> yes, it's damaged :\ [01:21] <menomc> daja77_: 8bf66ed16526255424054719552ab229 visual_parse_tree.png ? [01:21] <daja77_> yes got the same cksum, firefox tells me it is damaged but I can see it in gqview locally [01:22] <menomc> daja77_: what about 'display'? [01:24] <daja77_> still loading ^^ [01:24] <menomc> i guess firefox has the more elegant problem :) [01:25] <daja77_> it is really large, so I guess firefox can't handle it [01:25] <menomc> what about pdf instead of png? [01:32] <daja77_> hehe that splits up the pic about 140 pages [01:33] <daja77_> erh 104 [01:33] <menomc> oh [01:34] <daja77_> my fault, I've set a page size [01:38] <daja77_> yes pdf works better [01:38] <menomc> :) [01:39] <daja77_> you can download it now [01:40] <menomc> let see your monster... [01:41] <menomc> what the NULL means? [01:41] <menomc> NULL pointing to things doesn't make much sense to me :) [01:42] <daja77_> NULL are nonsense nodes, in fact this is more the start of a subtree than a node, a result of that strange format ... [01:42] <menomc> acutally your graph doesn't make much sense to me :p [01:42] <daja77_> have to change that somehow [01:43] <daja77_> just think of the NULL node as the the beginning of a subgraph belonging to the node above [01:48] <daja77_> trying to change it to display subgraphs tomorrow [01:51] <menomc> :) [01:53] <daja77_> it is the first time the skript produced a correct output (apart from the NULL nodes) ^^ [01:55] <menomc> :) [01:58] <daja77_> n8 [01:58] <menomc> sleep well daja77_ [08:29] feistel (n=feistel@200.125.78.251) joined #rocklinux. [08:30] feistel (n=feistel@200.125.78.251) left #rocklinux. [09:36] youngcoder (n=codemast@220M09.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:57] kasc_ (i=kasc@dsl-082-083-132-036.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:58] kasc (i=kasc@dsl-082-083-177-070.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:58] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [13:53] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995890.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:09] <owl> one question - how is it possible that a NEW HDD (52 hours running) - does "klack, klack, klack" and has errors (smartctl) with "read sectors"?! [14:09] <cutio> head crash? [14:09] <esden> bopp [14:10] <owl> cutio: thx. and why is it the 3rd time? (this is my 3rd new HDD within a 3/4 year) [14:10] <esden> owl: too hot ... or you are throwing it too often against the wall ;) [14:10] <cutio> owl: do you kick against your case or something? or transport your pc via car? [14:10] <owl> and - the first headcrash occured 1/4 year after buying this NB, the 2nd after about one month and the 3rd after about 2 weeks. [14:10] <esden> cutio: probably the first option ;) [14:11] <esden> afaik owl ;) [14:11] <owl> nah. it's standing here - on a small table, it's a pentium m throttled down to 600 mhz (slowest possible cpu-speed), and it's about 38 - 42 °C "hot" [14:11] <owl> esden: not really... that is why i am SOOO angry [14:12] <esden> humm ... strange ... you are buying low quality hardware ... prehups that is the problem? [14:13] <owl> esden: well... i've bought a samsung... and _normally_ it should have better quality... (at least in my workstation/server which is powered-on 24 hours/day it works without any problem) [14:13] <cutio> owl: where all hdds by the same manufacturer? [14:13] <cutio> yeeh, 2samsung hdds died here too [14:13] <owl> and in my BFs notebook the HDD (from the same manufacturer) works without any problems, too. [14:13] <cutio> both head crashone caused by me the other one unknown [14:13] <owl> cutio: yeah, all the same model, same manufacturerer... [14:14] <cutio> and both replaced by samsung for free [14:14] <owl> cutio: oeha! whichmodels? [14:14] <cutio> owl: sv1203? [14:14] <owl> ok, unknown here ;) [14:14] <owl> i've got an SAMSUNG MP0804H [14:15] <cutio> did you call samsung already? [14:15] <owl> well - i've bought the NB on 03. january 2005 or 04. jan. or so... [14:15] <owl> no, i will try to bring the NB to satan (aeh - saturn (the shop i bought it at)) and want to get my money back [14:16] <owl> the "joke" is, that you have to give the whole NB to the shop and you're about 3 weeks without your NB... :( [14:16] <owl> and i am really annoyed right now - have no time for those games dumb shops and even more dumb manufactureres are playing [14:17] <cutio> thats the problem if you buy expensive stuff in cheap stores like media markt, saturn, aldi... :) [14:17] <owl> cutio: :p had almost the same problem with my ex-NB [14:18] <owl> (not only with the HDD...) - but with the shop [14:18] <cutio> i prefer apple stores that're apple service points too [14:18] <cutio> they changed the logic board of my old ibook in 1week [14:18] <daja77_> cutio: do you still have that jpeg lib problem? [14:19] <owl> hmm. i don't want apple-comp ... (because i need ix86-arch...) [14:20] <cutio> daja77_: nah, i solved it by compiling libjpeg myself [14:20] <th> owl: apple switched to ix86 arch [14:20] <owl> th: but still quite expensive, isn't it? [14:20] <th> expensive is always relative [14:20] <cutio> daja77_: allthough the tars of both, the rocksrc and the other lib had the same md5sum [14:21] <cutio> owl: you get an ibook for 10000euro, that isnt expensive for sub-notebooks [14:21] <cutio> 1000 sorry :) [14:21] <th> true - i have one of those [14:21] <owl> hmm. sub-notebooks... [14:22] <cutio> last month i sold my 3year old ibook g3 800 for 500euro @ ebay, they dont become trash like ix86 nbs after some years [14:23] <owl> hmm. ok. well - but as said above - i need ix86 :( [14:23] <daja77_> cutio: could it be that you installed libjpeg over an already existing one, that would perhaps explain the error you had [14:23] <th> owl: i think you can get ix86-apple in 2006 [14:24] <cutio> daja77_: mm probably [14:24] <owl> th: yes, 2006 - but it's a long period of time till then... [14:25] <cutio> daja77_: anyway, i got another not working package: e_utils (belongs to enlightenment) this doesnt seem to compile according to the packages db [14:25] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [14:26] <th> owl: well - if you hardware is very important to you - you better stop buying them in discounters [14:27] <daja77> ^^ [14:27] <owl> th: yeah... :( but samsung normally isn't that bad, is it? :( [14:28] <th> never tried. [14:28] <th> but it's not only the WHAT you buy but also the WHERE you buy it. [14:29] <owl> th: why? [14:29] <cutio> btw in most cases those discounters are more expensive than other stores [14:29] <owl> (btw, what about ibm thinkpads? ) [14:29] <th> because of the 3weeks waiting [14:29] <cutio> owl: lenovo, not ibm *scnr* :) [14:30] <th> owl: ibm's are still great. propably best intel hardware you can buy [14:30] <th> owl: i've one of those t41p's [14:30] <owl> th: well. waited also 3 weeks in an local computer-shp... [14:30] <th> owl: perhaps it's because they all have to ship the stuff to the manufacturer [14:30] <owl> th: sounds well then - but - my special luck... well... if it'll be alive in 2 years, than it is "owl-approved" sigh [14:31] <th> owl: if you buy - let's say: dell notebooks... you can have a technican at your door next business day [14:31] <th> with replacement parts [14:31] <th> no shipping [14:31] <owl> hrmpf. pah :( [14:31] <th> i can't tell about IBM support services - that's cause i've had never trouble with IBM hardware [14:32] <th> of cause you should not buy the inspirons... [14:32] <th> but the long-time-designed latitudes [14:33] <owl> hmm. ok ;) will have a look at dell.de,too. thx :) [14:33] <cutio> or wait for intel powered ibooks/powerbooks [14:33] <owl> well - need a pc - thats another problem [14:34] <daja77> latidude, inspiron, sounds like dell to me [14:35] <daja77> ah ok [14:35] <daja77> should read more [14:48] netrunner (n=andreas@p549804CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:52] netrunner (n=andreas@p549813B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [19:28] hotzoman (n=albalux@85.186.199.182) joined #rocklinux. [19:41] hotzoman (n=albalux@85.186.199.182) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [20:16] <cutio> does someone use e17 in here? got a problem with entangle [20:16] <tfing> i do [20:17] <cutio> if i run entangle -theme <pathtomytheme> it says: Unable to locate theme. any idea? [20:17] <tfing> i use the default theme [20:18] <cutio> how do you run entangle then? [20:18] <tfing> where did you get aditionnal themes ? [20:18] <tfing> just run entangle [20:19] <cutio> https://www.get-e.org/Themes/E17/index.html [20:19] <tfing> these are themes for the window manager, not for entangle [20:19] <cutio> uhh [20:19] <cutio> just typing entangle gives the same error [20:20] <tfing> do you have the following file : /opt/e17/share/e_utils/data/entangle/default.edj [20:20] <tfing> ? [20:21] <cutio> its in /usr/local/share/(..) [20:21] <cutio> ah [20:22] <cutio> still doesnt work, even if i say entangle -theme /usr/local/share/e_utils/data/entangle/default.edj [20:23] <tfing> hmm [20:26] <cutio> tfing: do you use the rock-e_utils or the cvs version? [20:26] <tfing> i know it works with the current rock version since i did the patch :) [20:27] <cutio> 2.1? [20:27] <tfing> but i only tested with an install in /opt [20:27] <tfing> the trunk version [20:27] <cutio> mm [21:23] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995890.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:26] treo (n=xfman@Dbeb6.d.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [22:45] centrinia (n=exc@mp1-248-202.dialup.emory.edu) joined #rocklinux. [23:25] SteffenP (n=steffen@p54995890.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Mon Aug 22 2005