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[07:24] <blindcoder> daja77: okay, will do [08:22] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.36) joined #rocklinux. [08:22] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.123) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:23] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:25] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [08:34] <youngcoder> moin [08:34] <blindcoder> hi [08:48] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) got netsplit. [08:48] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) returned to #rocklinux. [09:38] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:48] <youngcoder> moin [09:49] <youngcoder> anyone free to help me a sec? [09:49] <blindcoder> just state your problem [09:49] <blindcoder> never ask to ask a question [09:50] <youngcoder> ok [09:50] <youngcoder> i got this error at the end of a boot-up of the .13 kernel [09:51] <youngcoder> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" ot unknown-block (o,) [09:51] <youngcoder> Please append a correct "root=" boot option [09:52] <youngcoder> Kernel panic- not synving: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unkown-block (0,0) [09:52] <youngcoder> /end error [09:52] <youngcoder> not synCing* [09:53] <blindcoder> hm [09:53] <blindcoder> all necessary filesystems and device drivers built into the bkernel? [09:54] <youngcoder> i think it is a problem with my menu.lst file... want me to paste it? [09:54] <youngcoder> as far as i know all filesystems are built in [09:55] <youngcoder> https://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1869 ... the entry at the very botton is the new kernel [09:57] <owl> moin [09:57] <youngcoder> moin moin [09:57] <owl> hi youngcoder [10:01] <owl> gnarf. why is 2.0.3 tagged as "stable" if it even throws errors in stage1? [10:03] <youngcoder> blindcoder, a guy told me what causes that [10:03] <youngcoder> i know what to fix now :) [10:03] <youngcoder> is because i forgot to compile support for my ide/scsi controller and root filesystem into the kernel [10:08] <blindcoder> well [10:08] <blindcoder> that's what I said [10:08] <blindcoder> `moin owl [10:08] <owl> hi blindcoder [10:15] <owl> so - what exactly am i doing wrong? [10:19] <blindcoder> owl: what are you compiling for? [10:24] <owl> blindcoder: bootdisk/rescue for ppc [10:30] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) got netsplit. [10:33] <blindcoder> I'm not familiar with ppc [10:33] <blindcoder> what's the error? [10:33] <owl> just one error? [10:33] <owl> nah, there are several errors. [10:33] <owl> one was e.g. (with linux24benh) because of missing README in package/powerpc/linux24benh/ [10:34] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) returned to #rocklinux. [10:37] <owl> and: why is in base/ a linux-2.4.27, in powerpc a linux-2.4.25 and it wants to build the kernel i am not having - linux-2.4.26 [10:38] <blindcoder> well, that probably just means that th has no ppc machine to test on [10:39] <owl> sigh. could it be possible to mark 2.0.3-ppc as broken-as-hell, then, please? [10:40] <blindcoder> well, instead of complaining that something doesn't work out-of-the-box you can also fix it :) [10:40] <daja77> 2.0.3 is broken as hell, why you always choose the oldest things we have in store ... [10:40] <blindcoder> daja77: because 2.0.3 is the last stable release IIRC [10:41] <daja77> well we are not speaking and thinking in debian terms of stable ... [10:41] Action: blindcoder is currently building a TRUNK for his laptop [10:41] <blindcoder> hehe :) [10:41] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* you know that i will never touch rock-code again... [10:41] <blindcoder> guess it would be nice to have a recent version for LT DD [10:41] <blindcoder> owl: well, then don't download it in the first place [10:42] <owl> blindcoder: you deserve - another *kick* :) [10:42] <daja77> owl: you could have asked which version might be the best before complaining ... [10:43] <owl> daja77: well. stable = "useing it out of the box is possible" [10:43] <daja77> we never made such a claim for 2.0.3 ppc [10:44] <blindcoder> that reminds me [10:44] <blindcoder> it's a new month [10:44] <owl> daja77: nah, but for the release. [10:44] <owl> if something is released as stable everything must run. [10:45] <blindcoder> owl: get the next version which will have all bugs fixed ;) [10:45] <daja77> 2.0.3 was the split up release I can't help it [10:45] <owl> sigh. [10:45] Action: owl gets a head-shot. thx. :) [10:45] <daja77> still you are here all the time, you could just ask somebody [10:46] <owl> no. i am believing what the website promises me [10:46] <blindcoder> the worst problem is that th is overworked [10:46] <blindcoder> and though I promised I'd send a bunch of updates to him I am stuck with some problems there :( [10:47] <daja77> yeah of course websites are more more proof than people even if the ppl in the chan are the same ... [10:48] <owl> sigh. [11:00] <blindcoder> daja77: any suggestions about this: [11:00] <blindcoder> I don't think it will be a high-traffic forum, so only a generic 'Rock' forum should be enough by a long shot. [11:00] <blindcoder> As a subtitle, maybe 'This Forum is for the discussion of ROCK and its example distribution "Crystal"' would be good. [11:01] <blindcoder> my reply to Jeremy for the linuxquestions.org forum [11:01] <daja77> call it Rock Linux [11:02] <blindcoder> okay [11:07] <daja77> :) [11:23] <owl> well. trunk: 6 failed, 3 successfull... gave up after failed binutils in stage1 ... so don't tell me, that trunk makes things better [11:29] <daja77> 5 failing before or after binutils? [11:36] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:14] <owl> bevore *guess* [12:14] <owl> s/bevore/before/g [12:14] <owl> well. binutils in stage 0 failed, too [12:15] <daja77> ok so that's the problem, what error? [12:15] <owl> Hunk #1 succeeded at 57 (offset 9 lines). [12:15] <owl> Creating /home/owl/t2/rock-build/build/default-TRUNK-powerpc-powerpc-cross-bootd [12:15] <owl> isk/ROCK/tools.cross/usr/<..> if required ... [12:15] <owl> this one. ... [12:15] <owl> ln: `/home/owl/t2/rock-build/build/default-TRUNK-powerpc-powerpc-cross-bootdisk/ [12:15] <owl> ROCK/tools.cross/usr/info': File exists [12:16] <owl> as it seems [12:16] <daja77> erh are you using t2 or rock? [12:16] <owl> rock [12:17] <owl> but too lazy to give it a own dir :) [12:17] <blindcoder> owl: can you put the .err file online somewhere? [12:18] <owl> yeah. sure. second [12:20] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:23] <owl> https://owl.karnaya.de/public/rocklinux/logs/ [12:26] <blindcoder> *click* [12:26] <blindcoder> have you stopped a build by means of ^C once? [12:27] <blindcoder> gcc 3.3.6? [12:27] <daja77> the problem is 0-binutils build without altivec support [12:28] <owl> altivec? [12:29] <owl> <- just used "powerpc & crossbuild"... [12:29] <blindcoder> daja77: this rather looks like a problem in Create-Tools [12:29] <blindcoder> owl: got any chance of doing a native build? [12:31] <owl> nah. there's aix installed on the rs/6000 - and there are no fscking bootdisks which are _not broken_... :( [12:31] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:31] <owl> so i wanted to crosscompile a bootdisk and so... [12:31] <blindcoder> owl: tried fakes ppc bootdisk? [12:31] <blindcoder> eh [12:31] <blindcoder> livecd [12:31] dead-alive (n=dead@pD952E8C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [12:32] <owl> blindcoder: huh? where? and: my pc can't boot from cd as it seems... [12:32] <blindcoder> https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/ [12:32] <blindcoder> your rs6k should be able to [12:32] Action: daja77 trying ppc crossbuild [12:33] <owl> it should? well.. debilian: no, t2: no. [12:34] <blindcoder> :( [12:34] <owl> well. what optimization is this...? sure it will run with my ibm-machine? [12:36] <blindcoder> no idea [12:36] <blindcoder> I've no clue about ppc stuff [12:36] <blindcoder> hey cool, someone's blogging with my name! [12:37] <owl> sigh. [12:41] <blindcoder> anyway, I'll make myself some lunch now [12:41] <blindcoder> bbl [12:43] <owl> guten hunger, blindcoder [12:43] <daja77> hm breakfast would be nice [12:45] <daja77> ok fails at 0-glibc23 [12:45] <daja77> !> configure: error: [12:45] <daja77> !> *** A binutils version which can handle [12:45] <daja77> !> *** .machine "altivec" [12:45] <daja77> !> *** is needed. [12:45] <daja77> so if if that fails nothing else can work [12:46] <owl> sigh. and how to fix it? [12:50] <daja77> installing binutils on the host that support the altivec instructions ... [12:54] <owl> means? crosscompile impossible [12:54] <owl> ? [12:56] <daja77> as long as you don't have suitable binutils on your host, yes [12:56] <owl> grmpf. [12:56] <daja77> <- doens't have them either [12:57] <owl> so - i need a ppc to crosscompile, yeah? [12:57] <daja77> perhaps one could trick the glibc to ignore that [12:58] Action: owl plays a bit "vogel strauss" [12:59] Action: daja77 checking [13:02] <owl> sigh. cleaing cages now. bbl [13:02] kasc_ (i=kasc@dsl-084-060-114-007.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:18] <blindcoder> buuurys [13:18] <blindcoder> back [13:18] <blindcoder> s/y/p/ [13:22] kasc (i=kasc@dsl-082-083-128-212.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:22] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [13:23] <blindcoder> EEP [13:24] <blindcoder> SDL_gfx-2.0.13.tar.bz2 is messed up on cvut.cz mirror [13:24] <blindcoder> can someone please verify this? [14:22] kasc_ (i=kasc@dsl-082-083-143-190.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:40] youngcoder (n=codemast@033M27.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[18:38] <blindcoder> he rarely is, better send him a mail [18:38] <blindcoder> must be an austrian phenomenom, seeing as clifford is just as rare :) [18:39] <the-dead> fake is from germany...look at his TLD [18:39] <blindcoder> but living in .at [18:39] <the-dead> hmm [18:39] <the-dead> wenns denn so is ;P [18:39] <blindcoder> kannst mir glauben, ein bisschen weiss ich ueber ihn, denk ich mal [18:40] <the-dead> someone else from the rocklinux ppc port available? [18:41] <blindcoder> I don't think so, fake did most of the ppc stuff for the last few months, don't even know if there is anyone else with ppc hardware left [18:41] <the-dead> hm [18:41] <blindcoder> what kind of problem do you have? [18:42] <owl> *ggg* [18:42] <the-dead> same problem as owl ;) [18:42] <blindcoder> ah, there's another rock-ppc member, let me introduce owl :) [18:42] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* not rock-ppc member. ;p [18:43] <the-dead> blindcoder: but owl has the same problem [18:43] <the-dead> same box, same prob [18:43] <blindcoder> I see [18:44] <blindcoder> I take it you couldn't boot the ppc livecd either? [18:44] <owl> <- didn't try it yet (livecd will be downloaded at evening) [18:44] <the-dead> i tried the gentoo live cd for ppc and the debian rescue disks... [18:44] <the-dead> i can't burn the rock live cd atm [18:45] <blindcoder> well, I'm not familiar with cross compiling, but I take it it's more difficult than just saying [X] cross compile [18:45] <blindcoder> the-dead: any chance of network booting? [18:45] <the-dead> blindcoder: if you have a chrp netboot recue system for me? [18:46] <the-dead> my server is configured for netbooting...but i don't have a netboot image [18:46] <blindcoder> a what? [18:46] <the-dead> an image for booting a complete rescue system over the net ;P [18:46] <the-dead> gentoo has netboot images for hppa and sparc, but not for ppc32 [18:47] <blindcoder> https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/InstallationUsingPXE [18:47] <blindcoder> this has a nice summary of what to do [18:47] <blindcoder> let me have a look at the available isos [18:48] <blindcoder> https://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/powerpc/ [18:48] <blindcoder> there [18:48] <the-dead> afaik the x86 pxe netboot differs from the ppc netboot [18:48] <blindcoder> that should get you a net boot ready [18:48] <blindcoder> hm [18:48] <blindcoder> at least the same routine works for sparc hardware [18:49] <the-dead> i will wait for fake...he has a different box, but with the same cpu...maybe he can create a floppy for us [18:49] <blindcoder> you might have to do some ppc reading, but it should work [18:49] <blindcoder> as stated, send him a mail (best CC: to rock-devel and/or rock-user) [18:50] <the-dead> when was he alive the last time? [18:50] <blindcoder> yesterday morning, and before that it's been some days in private and weeks in public [18:51] <blindcoder> he's at the ars electronica atm [18:51] <the-dead> ars electronica? [18:51] <the-dead> what's that? [18:51] <blindcoder> https://www.aec.at/en/index.asp [18:52] <the-dead> ahh, k [18:55] cadu (n=cadu@200.179.42.200) joined #rocklinux. [18:55] cadu (n=cadu@200.179.42.200) left #rocklinux. [20:35] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997363.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:36] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997363.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:55] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997363.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [21:05] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997363.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:40] _hannes (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:46] _hannes (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. 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