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[07:24] <blindcoder> daja77: okay, will do
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[08:34] <youngcoder> moin
[08:34] <blindcoder> hi
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[09:48] <youngcoder> moin
[09:49] <youngcoder> anyone free to help me a sec?
[09:49] <blindcoder> just state your problem
[09:49] <blindcoder> never ask to ask a question
[09:50] <youngcoder> ok
[09:50] <youngcoder> i got this error at the end of a boot-up of the .13 kernel
[09:51] <youngcoder> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" ot unknown-block (o,)
[09:51] <youngcoder> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[09:52] <youngcoder> Kernel panic- not synving: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unkown-block (0,0)
[09:52] <youngcoder> /end error
[09:52] <youngcoder> not synCing*
[09:53] <blindcoder> hm
[09:53] <blindcoder> all necessary filesystems and device drivers built into the bkernel?
[09:54] <youngcoder> i think it is a problem with my menu.lst file... want me to paste it?
[09:54] <youngcoder> as far as i know all filesystems are built in
[09:55] <youngcoder> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1869 ... the entry at the very botton is the new kernel
[09:57] <owl> moin
[09:57] <youngcoder> moin moin
[09:57] <owl> hi youngcoder 
[10:01] <owl> gnarf. why is 2.0.3 tagged as "stable" if it even throws errors in stage1?
[10:03] <youngcoder> blindcoder, a guy told me what causes that
[10:03] <youngcoder> i know what to fix now :)
[10:03] <youngcoder>  is because i forgot to compile support for my ide/scsi controller and root filesystem into the kernel
[10:08] <blindcoder> well
[10:08] <blindcoder> that's what I said
[10:08] <blindcoder> `moin owl 
[10:08] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[10:15] <owl> so - what exactly am i doing wrong?
[10:19] <blindcoder> owl: what are you compiling for?
[10:24] <owl> blindcoder: bootdisk/rescue for ppc
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[10:33] <blindcoder> I'm not familiar with ppc
[10:33] <blindcoder> what's the error?
[10:33] <owl> just one error? 
[10:33] <owl> nah, there are several errors.
[10:33] <owl> one was e.g. (with linux24benh) because of missing README in package/powerpc/linux24benh/
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[10:37] <owl> and: why is in base/ a linux-2.4.27, in powerpc a linux-2.4.25 and it wants to build the kernel i am not having - linux-2.4.26
[10:38] <blindcoder> well, that probably just means that th has no ppc machine to test on
[10:39] <owl> sigh. could it be possible to mark 2.0.3-ppc as broken-as-hell, then, please? 
[10:40] <blindcoder> well, instead of complaining that something doesn't work out-of-the-box you can also fix it :)
[10:40] <daja77> 2.0.3 is broken as hell, why you always choose the oldest things we have in store ...
[10:40] <blindcoder> daja77: because 2.0.3 is the last stable release IIRC
[10:41] <daja77> well we are not speaking and thinking in debian terms of stable ...
[10:41] Action: blindcoder is currently building a TRUNK for his laptop
[10:41] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[10:41] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* you know that i will never touch rock-code again... 
[10:41] <blindcoder> guess it would be nice to have a recent version for LT DD
[10:41] <blindcoder> owl: well, then don't download it in the first place
[10:42] <owl> blindcoder: you deserve - another *kick* :)
[10:42] <daja77> owl: you could have asked which version might be the best before complaining ...
[10:43] <owl> daja77: well. stable = "useing it out of the box is possible"
[10:43] <daja77> we never made such a claim for 2.0.3 ppc
[10:44] <blindcoder> that reminds me
[10:44] <blindcoder> it's a new month
[10:44] <owl> daja77: nah, but for the release. 
[10:44] <owl> if something is released as stable everything must run. 
[10:45] <blindcoder> owl: get the next version which will have all bugs fixed ;)
[10:45] <daja77> 2.0.3 was the split up release I can't help it
[10:45] <owl> sigh. 
[10:45] Action: owl gets a head-shot. thx. :)
[10:45] <daja77> still you are here all the time, you could just ask somebody
[10:46] <owl> no. i am believing what the website promises me
[10:46] <blindcoder> the worst problem is that th is overworked
[10:46] <blindcoder> and though I promised I'd send a bunch of updates to him I am stuck with some problems there :(
[10:47] <daja77> yeah of course websites are more more proof than people even if the ppl in the chan are the same ...
[10:48] <owl> sigh. 
[11:00] <blindcoder> daja77: any suggestions about this:
[11:00] <blindcoder> I don't think it will be a high-traffic forum, so only a generic 'Rock' forum should be enough by a long shot.
[11:00] <blindcoder> As a subtitle, maybe 'This Forum is for the discussion of ROCK and its example distribution "Crystal"' would be good.
[11:01] <blindcoder> my reply to Jeremy for the linuxquestions.org forum
[11:01] <daja77> call it Rock Linux
[11:02] <blindcoder> okay
[11:07] <daja77> :)
[11:23] <owl> well. trunk: 6 failed, 3 successfull... gave up after failed binutils in stage1 ... so don't tell me, that trunk makes things better
[11:29] <daja77> 5 failing before or after binutils?
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[12:14] <owl> bevore *guess*
[12:14] <owl> s/bevore/before/g
[12:14] <owl> well. binutils in stage 0 failed, too
[12:15] <daja77> ok so that's the problem, what error?
[12:15] <owl> Hunk #1 succeeded at 57 (offset 9 lines).
[12:15] <owl> Creating /home/owl/t2/rock-build/build/default-TRUNK-powerpc-powerpc-cross-bootd
[12:15] <owl> isk/ROCK/tools.cross/usr/<..> if required ...
[12:15] <owl> this one. ... 
[12:15] <owl> ln: `/home/owl/t2/rock-build/build/default-TRUNK-powerpc-powerpc-cross-bootdisk/
[12:15] <owl> ROCK/tools.cross/usr/info': File exists
[12:16] <owl> as it seems
[12:16] <daja77> erh are you using t2 or rock?
[12:16] <owl> rock
[12:17] <owl> but too lazy to give it a own dir :)
[12:17] <blindcoder> owl: can you put the .err file online somewhere?
[12:18] <owl> yeah. sure. second
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[12:23] <owl> http://owl.karnaya.de/public/rocklinux/logs/
[12:26] <blindcoder> *click*
[12:26] <blindcoder> have you stopped a build by means of ^C once?
[12:27] <blindcoder> gcc 3.3.6?
[12:27] <daja77> the problem is 0-binutils build without altivec support
[12:28] <owl>  altivec?
[12:29] <owl> <- just used "powerpc & crossbuild"... 
[12:29] <blindcoder> daja77: this rather looks like a problem in Create-Tools
[12:29] <blindcoder> owl: got any chance of doing a native build?
[12:31] <owl> nah. there's aix installed on the rs/6000 - and there are no fscking bootdisks which are _not broken_... :(
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[12:31] <owl> so i wanted to crosscompile a bootdisk and so... 
[12:31] <blindcoder> owl: tried fakes ppc bootdisk?
[12:31] <blindcoder> eh
[12:31] <blindcoder> livecd
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[12:32] <owl> blindcoder: huh? where? and: my pc can't boot from cd as it seems... 
[12:32] <blindcoder> http://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/
[12:32] <blindcoder> your rs6k should be able to 
[12:32] Action: daja77 trying ppc crossbuild
[12:33] <owl> it should? well.. debilian: no, t2: no. 
[12:34] <blindcoder> :(
[12:34] <owl> well. what optimization is this...? sure it will run with my ibm-machine? 
[12:36] <blindcoder> no idea
[12:36] <blindcoder> I've no clue about ppc stuff
[12:36] <blindcoder> hey cool, someone's blogging with my name!
[12:37] <owl> sigh. 
[12:41] <blindcoder> anyway, I'll make myself some lunch now
[12:41] <blindcoder> bbl
[12:43] <owl> guten hunger, blindcoder 
[12:43] <daja77> hm breakfast would be nice
[12:45] <daja77> ok fails at 0-glibc23 
[12:45] <daja77> !> configure: error:
[12:45] <daja77> !> *** A binutils version which can handle
[12:45] <daja77> !> ***    .machine "altivec"
[12:45] <daja77> !> *** is needed.
[12:45] <daja77> so if if that fails nothing else can work
[12:46] <owl> sigh. and how to fix it?
[12:50] <daja77> installing binutils on the host that support the altivec instructions ...
[12:54] <owl> means? crosscompile impossible
[12:54] <owl> ?
[12:56] <daja77> as long as you don't have suitable binutils on your host, yes
[12:56] <owl> grmpf. 
[12:56] <daja77> <- doens't have them either
[12:57] <owl> so - i need a ppc to crosscompile, yeah? 
[12:57] <daja77> perhaps one could trick the glibc to ignore that
[12:58] Action: owl plays a bit "vogel strauss"
[12:59] Action: daja77 checking
[13:02] <owl> sigh. cleaing cages now. bbl
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[13:18] <blindcoder> buuurys
[13:18] <blindcoder> back
[13:18] <blindcoder> s/y/p/
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[13:23] <blindcoder> EEP
[13:24] <blindcoder> SDL_gfx-2.0.13.tar.bz2 is messed up on cvut.cz mirror
[13:24] <blindcoder> can someone please verify this?
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[18:38] <the-dead> fake: r u available?
[18:38] <blindcoder> he rarely is, better send him a mail
[18:38] <blindcoder> must be an austrian phenomenom, seeing as clifford is just as rare :)
[18:39] <the-dead> fake is from germany...look at his TLD
[18:39] <blindcoder> but living in .at
[18:39] <the-dead> hmm
[18:39] <the-dead> wenns denn so is ;P
[18:39] <blindcoder> kannst mir glauben, ein bisschen weiss ich ueber ihn, denk ich mal
[18:40] <the-dead> someone else from the rocklinux ppc port available?
[18:41] <blindcoder> I don't think so, fake did most of the ppc stuff for the last few months, don't even know if there is anyone else with ppc hardware left
[18:41] <the-dead> hm
[18:41] <blindcoder> what kind of problem do you have?
[18:42] <owl> *ggg*
[18:42] <the-dead> same problem as owl ;)
[18:42] <blindcoder> ah, there's another rock-ppc member, let me introduce owl :)
[18:42] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* not rock-ppc member. ;p
[18:43] <the-dead> blindcoder: but owl has the same problem
[18:43] <the-dead> same box, same prob
[18:43] <blindcoder> I see
[18:44] <blindcoder> I take it you couldn't boot the ppc livecd either?
[18:44] <owl> <- didn't try it yet (livecd will be downloaded at evening)
[18:44] <the-dead> i tried the gentoo live cd for ppc and the debian rescue disks...
[18:44] <the-dead> i can't burn the rock live cd atm
[18:45] <blindcoder> well, I'm not familiar with cross compiling, but I take it it's more difficult than just saying [X] cross compile
[18:45] <blindcoder> the-dead: any chance of network booting?
[18:45] <the-dead> blindcoder: if you have a chrp netboot recue system for me?
[18:46] <the-dead> my server is configured for netbooting...but i don't have a netboot image
[18:46] <blindcoder> a what?
[18:46] <the-dead> an image for booting a complete rescue system over the net ;P
[18:46] <the-dead> gentoo has netboot images for hppa and sparc, but not for ppc32
[18:47] <blindcoder> http://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/InstallationUsingPXE
[18:47] <blindcoder> this has a nice summary of what to do
[18:47] <blindcoder> let me have a look at the available isos
[18:48] <blindcoder> http://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/powerpc/
[18:48] <blindcoder> there
[18:48] <the-dead> afaik the x86 pxe netboot differs from the ppc netboot
[18:48] <blindcoder> that should get you a net boot ready
[18:48] <blindcoder> hm
[18:48] <blindcoder> at least the same routine works for sparc hardware
[18:49] <the-dead> i will wait for fake...he has a different box, but with the same cpu...maybe he can create a floppy for us
[18:49] <blindcoder> you might have to do some ppc reading, but it should work
[18:49] <blindcoder> as stated, send him a mail (best CC: to rock-devel and/or rock-user)
[18:50] <the-dead> when was he alive the last time?
[18:50] <blindcoder> yesterday morning, and before that it's been some days in private and weeks in public
[18:51] <blindcoder> he's at the ars electronica atm
[18:51] <the-dead> ars electronica?
[18:51] <the-dead> what's that?
[18:51] <blindcoder> http://www.aec.at/en/index.asp
[18:52] <the-dead> ahh, k
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