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[07:19] <esden> oook ... packing and lifting off to berlin...
[07:26] <blindcoder> moin
[08:14] <esden> humm ... it takes time >_<
[08:15] <blindcoder> hehe
[08:15] <blindcoder> esden: when will you be here?
[08:15] <blindcoder> 22:00?
[08:15] <blindcoder> brb, gotta buf some bread
[08:18] <esden> erm ... dunno .... 16:00 17:00
[08:18] <esden> something about that
[08:18] <esden> I will write you an sms when I am over the border
[08:18] <esden> if you want
[08:30] <blindcoder> that would be great
[08:30] <blindcoder> any special wishes for dinner?
[09:05] <esden> nope ... only one beer for me ;) as drink to the dinner ;)
[09:05] <esden> otherwise you may choose ;)
[09:06] <blindcoder> ARG
[09:06] Action: blindcoder violating someone
[09:06] <blindcoder> okay
[09:06] <blindcoder> well
[09:06] <blindcoder> I have _no_ dinner at home
[09:06] <esden> lol
[09:06] <esden> we can also go somewhere I invite you 
[09:06] <blindcoder> good idea :)
[09:07] <esden> choose where
[09:07] <esden> and please somewhere where I get my beer ;)
[09:07] Action: esden missing german beer
[09:08] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:08] <blindcoder> I have Gutmann at home :D
[09:08] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:09] <blindcoder> I wonder if someone recently installed using the bootdisk target...
[09:09] <blindcoder> it is thoroughly broken
[09:10] <blindcoder> and it's daja77s fault!
[09:10] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:10] <blindcoder> no, it is not
[09:10] <esden> lol
[09:10] <esden> ok very well ... gutmann is very good ;)
[09:10] <blindcoder> too bad :)
[09:11] <esden> ok ... two tracks to go and then I can disconnect my laptop and start the jurney
[09:13] <blindcoder> whoops
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[09:14] <blindcod1r> damndamndamn
[09:14] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[09:14] <blindcoder> it's been my own fault!
[09:14] <blindcoder> it was some local changes only
[09:15] <owl> moin 
[09:15] <blindcoder> moin moin owl
[09:15] <owl> hi blindy :(
[09:16] <blindcoder> o_O
[09:16] <blindcoder> is it so bad I'm here that you must frown?
[09:16] <owl> i 've to go to "dragonland" (also known as "secretariat der berufsschule")
[09:16] <blindcoder> oh
[09:16] <blindcoder> why's that?
[09:16] <owl> this one. and still a bit dead from "migraene"
[09:16] <owl> have to give a book back to them... 
[09:16] <blindcoder> somehow everyone is frowning at me these days :(
[09:16] <blindcoder> Livi's bunny died and she's down, too :(
[09:17] <owl> and then i have to move my ass to satans hoellenhunde... *grusel*
[09:17] <owl> oh shit. i can imagine this :(
[09:18] <owl> sigh. and i 've to write my fscking ex-broetchengeber a mail complaining about this certificat she wrote me. 
[09:18] Action: owl should really build a "schiessstand" 
[09:19] <blindcoder> hehe
[09:20] <owl> not funny... 
[09:23] <blindcoder> hehe, this is one thing I love about linux
[09:23] <blindcoder> root@fuzzy:~# ifconfig eth1 down ; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3 up ; route add -net default gw 192.168.1.1
[09:23] <blindcoder> on the fly switching of network devices :)
[09:24] <owl> :)
[09:28] <esden> ok ... /me leaving 
[09:28] <esden> cu in germany ;)
[09:29] <blindcoder> have a safe trip!
[09:35] <owl> bye esden. 
[09:36] Action: owl leaving for driving to satan & dragons now
[09:36] <owl> bye *waves* :(
[09:36] <blindcoder> bye owl 
[10:00] <blindcoder> any hard feelings against removing devfs?
[10:25] Action: daja77 pokes blindcoder 
[10:26] Action: blindcoder is being poked
[10:26] <daja77> good
[10:28] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:28] <blindcoder> still some bugs to clean out in mkinitrdnew.sh
[10:31] <blindcoder> argh
[10:32] <blindcoder> I forgot mod_dm.sh in the device-mapper package!
[10:50] <blindcoder> obviously noone has yet tried to software encrypt his hard disks :)
[13:44] <owl> re
[13:44] <blindcoder> wb owl
[13:44] <blindcoder> I see you survived :)
[13:44] <owl> yeah . half ;)
[13:45] <blindcoder> how did it go?
[13:45] <owl> but satans hoellenhunde will give me my money back... how much is not yet clear, but i will at least be able to remove the samsung-ding
[13:45] <blindcoder> well, 100% refund, no?
[13:45] <owl> normally: no
[13:45] <blindcoder> hrm
[13:46] <owl> "nutzungsgebuehr"
[13:46] <blindcoder> ah
[13:49] <th> 10:51:50 < blindcoder> obviously noone has yet tried to software encrypt his hard disks :)
[13:49] <th> thats plain wrong
[13:49] <blindcoder> th: with my scripts :P
[13:49] <th> but who need's "mod_dm.sh" for that?
[13:49] <th> hehehe
[13:50] <th> k
[13:50] <blindcoder> th: it's the stone module for configuring the software encryption module for the initrd I wrote
[13:50] <th> blindcoder: that for stone?
[13:50] <blindcoder> which - btw - has also been broken
[13:50] <th> ah yes. cool
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[14:02] <recyclebin> Hi
[14:03] <blindcoder> hi recyclebin 
[14:03] <blindcoder> recyclebin: you really shouldn't use IRC as root user :)
[14:03] <recyclebin> eh,me? I am on... toor.
[14:03] <blindcoder> recyclebin: which is the emergency root user, no?
[14:05] <recyclebin> I doubt. There is no such account in my /etc/passwd
[14:05] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[14:05] <blindcoder> nevermind then :)
[14:06] <recyclebin> Is rock linux still alive?
[14:07] <blindcoder> sure
[14:08] <recyclebin> *sigh*
[14:08] <recyclebin> since 1998 ~ ?
[14:08] <owl> btw, what about hewlett-packard-laptops?
[14:08] <blindcoder> it just looks a bit less than it used to since much discussion moved from the mailing list to the submaster tool
[14:09] <blindcoder> clifford just applied a batch of patches again and is now running the next reference build
[14:09] <blindcoder> recyclebin: until today :)
[14:09] <blindcoder> owl: no experience
[14:09] <recyclebin> weird
[14:10] <blindcoder> damn some things are just too funny to read:
[14:10] <blindcoder> recyclebin: what is?
[14:10] <blindcoder> - sehr gute Kenntnisse in Skriptsprachen (z.B. Perl, PHP, Javascript, C/C++)
[14:10] <blindcoder> - very good knowledge in scripting languages (perl, php, javascript, c/c++)
[14:11] <daja77> hm c scripting
[14:12] <blindcoder> recyclebin: I've just finished building and installing a recent ROCK build (revision 6334)
[14:12] <blindcoder> been mangling a few bugs in the process :)
[14:13] <blindcoder> daja77: well, I've heard rumors about a header file turning Pascal into C
[14:14] <recyclebin> hehe
[14:15] <recyclebin> such as: piggy  --> meat
[14:16] <recyclebin> Is there any developer(guru) of rock linux in this room?
[14:16] <blindcoder> several
[14:16] <blindcoder> what's your question?
[14:17] Action: daja77 points to blindcoder 
[14:18] Action: blindcoder hides :)
[14:18] <recyclebin> May I install the rock in my lfs-like system?
[14:18] <blindcoder> recyclebin: what do you want to do?
[14:18] <blindcoder> maybe that's a better approach
[14:18] <blindcoder> you can use rock to "just" install programs into your running system
[14:18] <blindcoder> or you can use it to create distributions
[14:20] <recyclebin> so in facts, rock ~= another package (build tool)?
[14:20] <blindcoder> that is part of it, but not its main purpose
[14:21] <recyclebin> What's the 'real' purpose?
[14:21] <blindcoder> to build distributions
[14:22] <blindcoder> in theory and with some work involved, you could even build - no idea - red hat with it
[14:22] <recyclebin> :S This is what I meant.
[14:23] <blindcoder> there is an example distribution - Crystal - in the rock sources
[14:23] <blindcoder> as well as an install disk, a livecd and a specialized "distribution", mini-livecd called LVP
[14:24] <recyclebin> umm,good.
[14:24] <blindcoder> just tell me what you want to do and I can tell you if it's possible :)
[14:25] Action: daja77 wants to rule the world
[14:26] <blindcoder> #define world dajas_bathtub
[14:26] <recyclebin> I had a package manager in my system... May I install it?
[14:26] <blindcoder> okay, you can rule the world :)
[14:26] <daja77> which is already on our long term todo list
[14:26] <blindcoder> recyclebin: which one?
[14:27] Action: recyclebin thinks that is the dr.evil
[14:29] <recyclebin> blindcoder, for example, my own package manager
[14:29] <blindcoder> recyclebin: you can install it and integrate it with rock
[14:30] <recyclebin> Would they bite each other?
[14:30] <blindcoder> recyclebin: it requires some work maybe on both the rock scripts and/or the package manager but it will work
[14:30] <blindcoder> depends on if you just want to use your own package manager on your local box or integrate it into the distribution
[14:31] <blindcoder> if you want to do the former you only need to be a bit careful
[14:31] <blindcoder> if you want to do the latter you'll have to decide on one and ditch the other
[14:32] <recyclebin> Is 6334 bug-free?
[14:32] <recyclebin> (stable?)
[14:32] <blindcoder> by varying definitions of bug free
[14:33] <blindcoder> it all works
[14:33] <blindcoder> but there are roguh edges
[14:33] <recyclebin> but the packages is... old
[14:34] <blindcoder> really?
[14:34] <blindcoder> which one?
[14:35] <recyclebin> almost all
[14:35] <blindcoder> o_O
[14:36] <blindcoder> packages are being updated as people use them and notice new versions
[14:36] <blindcoder> if packages aren't used by someone then it will probably not be updated
[14:37] <blindcoder> other reasons for packages being not up to the most recent release might be because that one is not marked stable
[14:38] <blindcoder> personally I don't like having an release candidate somewhere
[14:39] <daja77> you are welcome to send update patches
[14:39] <recyclebin> Where is the default locate of rebuilt packages?
[14:39] <blindcoder> recyclebin: default locate? what do you mean?
[14:39] <recyclebin> directory
[14:40] <blindcoder> recyclebin: /
[14:40] <recyclebin> O.o
[14:40] <blindcoder> they are installed into the running system
[14:40] <daja77> $root
[14:40] <daja77> ;)
[14:40] <blindcoder> using a default prefix of /usr
[14:40] <recyclebin> o.O
[14:40] <recyclebin> dead...
[14:41] <blindcoder> why dead?
[14:41] <recyclebin> I don't want that.
[14:41] <blindcoder> then you can specify an alternative prefix
[14:42] <blindcoder> either in the packages' .conf file
[14:42] <blindcoder> or as parameter to scripts/Build-Pkg
[14:42] <recyclebin> I see.
[14:43] <recyclebin> make sense.
[14:43] <blindcoder> if you want some good-night lecture you can browse http://doc.rocklinux.rgo/
[14:43] <blindcoder> if you want some good-night lecture you can browse http://doc.rocklinux.org/
[14:44] <recyclebin> I did... hehe
[14:44] <daja77> hah I got one complaint because one guy wanted to print the wiki as night lecture ...
[14:45] <blindcoder> daja77: I could of course create a script that makes a one-page version of the wiki...
[14:45] <recyclebin> ?
[14:45] <daja77> yes that might be a good idea
[14:45] <blindcoder> as soon as my laptop has everything I want it have again :)
[14:46] <daja77> :)
[14:46] <blindcoder> icewm, dosemu, wine, java, OOo... and so on
[14:46] <daja77> finally sm is syncing
[14:47] Action: recyclebin is jealous and he want to brun them...
[14:48] Action: recyclebin :)
[14:48] <recyclebin> sm?
[14:49] <blindcoder> submaster
[14:49] <recyclebin> s/brun/burn/g
[14:49] <daja77> whoa not a single conflict
[14:49] <owl> gaaaaarh. 
[14:50] <owl> suicidial hamter - jumping from couch
[14:50] <daja77> a new born lemming
[14:50] <owl> huh?
[14:50] <daja77> reborn
[14:50] <daja77> whatever
[14:51] <recyclebin> ?
[14:53] <owl> http://www.a-adv.de/pub/ds/asus-a3e.pdf <- what do you think?
[14:53] <recyclebin> let me check...
[14:54] <recyclebin> I think this is the clone of my laptop :)
[14:54] <owl> *g* you own one?
[14:55] <recyclebin> Acer 803Lci with 15.1' LCD
[14:55] <owl> huh? 
[14:55] <owl> acer != asus... 
[14:56] <recyclebin> I know
[14:56] <owl> but ....?
[14:56] <recyclebin> dispaly is too bad
[14:57] <recyclebin> intel 915GM?
[14:57] <owl> dunno. 
[14:57] <owl> why is the display bad?
[14:57] <blindcoder> can't be tuned by 855resolution and i810switch
[14:58] <recyclebin> my laptop is ati chip inside
[14:58] <owl> ??? wtf is 855resulution and i810switch?
[14:59] <recyclebin> much better in dx and opengl
[14:59] <blindcoder> owl: two packages I submitted to rock recently
[15:00] <blindcoder> owl: 855resolution lets you tune the gfx  chip in centrino laptops to get the full 1400x1050 resolution
[15:00] <recyclebin> no cut-off the memory of system
[15:00] <owl> well. i am just using it as development-pc and so... so - no need for opengl and so :)
[15:00] <blindcoder> owl: and i810switch lets you enable/disable the lcd and vga out
[15:00] <owl> ah. ok. 
[15:00] <blindcoder> quite handy tools :)
[15:01] <owl> so - what resolution will i get without using 855resolution?
[15:01] <recyclebin> you are wrong... when you start a game... hehe
[15:01] <owl> ust with xorg? snhouldnt it work?
[15:01] <owl> recyclebin: start a game? who? *looks arround*
[15:01] <recyclebin> windows game -_-
[15:02] <owl> hahaha :) 
[15:02] <owl> <- plays games only in RL: "catch the hamster" 
[15:03] <owl> so - the only thing is the vga/and/sxga-resolution-thing...
[15:03] <recyclebin> how much? 1299 EUR = ? USD
[15:04] <blindcoder> around 1650
[15:04] <owl> thx blindy ;)
[15:04] <blindcoder> 1 USD ~= 0.8 EUR
[15:05] <recyclebin> 825 USD <- I think it should be
[15:06] <blindcoder> no
[15:06] <blindcoder> or was it...
[15:06] <blindcoder> wait
[15:06] <blindcoder> no
[15:06] <blindcoder> it must be more
[15:07] <recyclebin> It is not better than my laptop and delay more three years...
[15:08] <owl> hmm. 
[15:08] <recyclebin> the first year: 1650 -> the second: 825 -> 3th year: 412
[15:09] <recyclebin> so It should be $412 USD now. :)
[15:09] <recyclebin> hehe
[15:09] <recyclebin> like a car
[15:12] Action: recyclebin stand up and make some good-smell coffee
[15:12] <owl> http://com2blue.21stmall.de/shop/ibm/produktdetails.asp?IDArtikel=53530061 <- this one?
[15:16] <owl> hrm. does. acer.de work?
[15:18] <blindcoder> no
[15:19] <owl> well. thx :)
[15:20] <owl> http://www.toughbook-europe.com/DEU/notebook_cf-29.aspx <- haha. my next notebook *g*
[15:21] <recyclebin> go to www.acer.com.   you can buy 'ferrari' now (amd inside)
[15:22] <owl> ferrari? this ugly red notebook? *shivers*
[15:22] <owl> btw. just parts of the site are loading
[15:22] <recyclebin> so am I
[15:23] <recyclebin> the red color is good for...
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[15:24] <owl> good for?
[15:24] <recyclebin> http://images.google.com.tw/imgres?imgurl=http://www.portcom.ru/image/catalog/acer/803LCi.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.portcom.ru/catalog/model/3132&h=200&w=220&sz=7&tbnid=nH4Cj1KwgIAJ:&tbnh=92&tbnw=102&hl=zh-TW&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dacer%2B803lci%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dzh-TW%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
[15:24] <recyclebin> O.O so long
[15:25] <recyclebin> my laptop ^_^
[15:26] <owl> russian- oaehrgs. :)
[15:27] <recyclebin> It is still worth now ^_^b
[15:28] <recyclebin> intel inside, centrino, ati display...
[15:29] <recyclebin> owl, your 'toolboks' laptop is cool :)
[15:30] <owl> toolboks?
[15:31] <recyclebin> owl, hehe. like a toolbox. where to buy?
[15:32] <owl> *confused*
[15:32] <recyclebin> owl, ?
[15:33] <recyclebin> owl, as you said: 'haha. my next notebook'
[15:34] Action: recyclebin thanks you all for help
[15:34] <owl> aaaaah. this one you mean :) 
[15:34] <owl> at panasonic.de or so?
[15:34] <recyclebin> owl, Is it out?
[15:38] <recyclebin> I like this... GPS & GPRS function
[15:39] <recyclebin> the fbi can track you at anytime
[15:39] <owl> out?
[15:40] <recyclebin> hit the street/bed <- in other words
[15:40] <blindcoder> okay, now waiting for an hour or two until mozilla is compiled
[15:41] <recyclebin> why you do that?
[15:41] <owl> ah. ok .)
[15:41] <owl> he is a way self-destrucivte
[15:41] <owl> destructive :)
[15:42] <recyclebin> :S
[15:42] <blindcoder> because it just works
[15:43] <blindcoder> right now I was unable to easily install enigmail into thunderbird
[15:43] <blindcoder> with mozilla I click on the .xpi and it works
[15:43] <recyclebin> hehe
[15:44] <recyclebin> You may do a quick 'hacking' with a big hammer.
[15:45] Action: recyclebin said a cold joke :(
[15:46] <owl> http://www.haesler.at/fun/cpp-boy.jpg <- lol
[15:47] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:47] <owl> or this : http://www.haesler.at/fun/DasRechtdesStarkeren.jpg
[15:47] <recyclebin> ha ha ha. nice program. I give him 100.
[15:50] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:50] <blindcoder> I get a nice idea here
[15:50] <blindcoder> while the laptop is building mozilla
[15:50] <recyclebin> join #IRC?
[15:50] <blindcoder> I can use the source tree I used to build the now-installed distribution to build dosemu on another machine
[15:50] Action: blindcoder is a genius
[15:51] Action: recyclebin rools his eyes. so complex.
[15:51] <recyclebin> s/rools/rolls/
[15:51] <recyclebin> @@
[15:54] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[15:54] <blindcoder> noone said creating a distribution was an easy task :)
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[16:00] <treo> hi :D
[16:00] <blindcoder> moin treo
[16:00] <recyclebin> download a distro -> modidy -> it's mine
[16:00] <recyclebin> (like some companies)
[16:01] Action: recyclebin thinks he is glad to making wheel from scratch
[16:07] <blindcoder> o_O
[16:07] <blindcoder> well
[16:07] <blindcoder> it's just that the modify step is a bit tedious
[16:10] <recyclebin> indeed
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[16:56] <recyclebin> udev... time will slove anything
[16:57] <blindcoder> hm?
[17:00] <blindcoder> hmm
[17:00] <blindcoder> wow
[17:01] <blindcoder> slowly I get used to KDE \o/
[17:03] <recyclebin> kde/qt and gnome/gtk...
[17:04] <blindcoder> well, I've been using icewm so far
[17:04] <blindcoder> for... ehm... 4 years
[17:04] <daja77> I got used to kde too
[17:05] <blindcoder> even though kaffeeine could be a bit more tolerant
[17:05] <blindcoder> there are different buttons for "open music file" and "open playlist"
[17:05] <blindcoder> well, at least I already got Ctrl-Alt-T bound to xterm :)
[17:05] <daja77> hm I have to check if I can set a cache for kaffeine to work around the crappy ide usb drivers
[17:06] <recyclebin> daja77, this sounds good
[17:06] <daja77> what?
[17:06] <recyclebin> daja77, you said
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[17:25] <blindcoder> okay, where in kde can I set keyboard shortcuts?
[17:25] <blindcoder> like ctrl-alt-space == maximize
[17:25] <daja77> kde controlcenter
[17:28] <blindcoder> oh
[17:28] <blindcoder> under "regional"
[17:28] <blindcoder> hrmpf
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[17:38] <blindcoder> finally!
[17:38] <blindcoder> per-window keyboard layout!
[17:39] <daja77> ;)
[17:39] <blindcoder> finally being able to play nethack without suddenly having layout everywhere
[17:40] <blindcoder> now if only konsole would also work
[17:43] <daja77> ;)
[17:43] <blindcoder> konsole just shows a cursor
[17:44] <daja77> hm strange
[17:57] Action: treo is away: AFK
[18:05] <blindcoder> hmm
[18:05] <blindcoder> kaffeeine eats my whole system o_O
[18:14] <daja77> have you upgraded to 0.7?
[18:15] <blindcoder> 0.7 kde 3.4.2
[18:15] <blindcoder> it's been the audio visualisation that's eaten up the machine
[18:16] <daja77> ah ok
[18:17] <daja77> just because versions lower 0.7 are much worse in memory management
[18:18] <daja77> hm lost in space heute
[18:18] <daja77> d'oh
[18:19] <blindcoder> even _worse_ o_O
[18:19] <daja77> yeah much worse
[18:25] <blindcoder> eww
[18:25] Action: mnemoc happy with mplayer :p
[18:25] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:25] <blindcoder> well, if I try to use ALSA with xmms the sound is totally garbled
[18:27] <cutio> no matter how loud?
[18:27] <blindcoder> no matter how loud
[18:31] <daja77> mplayer is nice too but it can't handle playlists
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[18:35] <blindcoder> ARGH
[18:35] <blindcoder> subversion is so fscking stupid
[18:35] <blindcoder> root@fuzzy:/usr/src/rock-2.1-clifford# svn cleanup
[18:35] <blindcoder> svn: Your .svn/tmp directory may be missing or corrupt; run 'svn cleanup' and try again
[18:36] <daja77> well if fsfs is fscked up you have lost
[18:37] <blindcoder> it's a svn co
[18:38] <daja77> hm
[18:38] <blindcoder> well, gotta check out again
[18:39] <daja77> btw is the lq forum now online?
[18:39] <blindcoder> I have sent the information to jeremy but didn't get a reply yet
[18:39] <blindcoder> maybe he took some days off
[18:40] <daja77> ah ok
[18:41] <blindcoder> wow
[18:41] <blindcoder> a diff between my personal and cliffords tree is 256 kb
[18:41] <daja77> hehe
[18:41] <mnemoc> why clifford has a branch of 2.1?
[18:42] <blindcoder> mnemoc: the official trunk
[18:42] <daja77> he hasn't
[18:42] <mnemoc> blindcoder's dir name confused me :p
[18:42] <daja77> :)
[18:42] Action: mnemoc kicks blindcoder 
[18:43] <blindcoder> ouch >_<
[18:43] <blindcoder> btw, any idea why my touchpad doesn't behave the way it did before the reinstall?
[18:43] <blindcoder> before I was able to simute a middle-click by tapping with two fingers on the touchpad
[18:43] <daja77> no idea
[18:44] <mnemoc> xorg config changed?
[18:47] <blindcoder> mnemoc: I was using xfree before
[18:48] <blindcoder> and copied the touchpad section verbatim
[18:49] <blindcoder> also, the damn thing has become much more sensitive >_<
[18:49] <mnemoc> :)
[18:50] <blindcoder> that's not funny >_<
[18:52] <mnemoc> :)
[18:53] <blindcoder> there's not even a manpage for the synaptics driver >_<
[18:56] Action: mnemoc trying hard to not smile again
[19:03] <blindcoder> ah
[19:03] <blindcoder> synaptics is not CORE
[19:03] <blindcoder> grmpf
[19:03] <blindcoder> 
[19:13] <blindcoder> and it's back :D
[19:15] <mnemoc> :)
[19:18] <blindcoder> ouch
[19:18] <blindcoder> that esr gets job offer from MS is funny :)
[19:19] <mnemoc> /.?
[19:20] <blindcoder> yeah
[21:13] <daja77> blindcoder: have you talked to hannes?
[21:38] <blindcoder> daja77: yeah
[21:42] <daja77> good
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