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[07:59] <blindcoder> moin
[09:15] <th> ok fluxbox-0.9.14 is out.
[09:18] <blindcoder> nice
[09:18] <blindcoder> moin th, btw :)
[09:18] <th> yo moin
[09:26] <blindcoder> okay, fisheye is ready
[09:33] <blindcoder> th: can you please have a look at http://pallas.crash-override.net:800/ and tell me what you think of it?
[09:39] <th> is that a svn browser?
[09:39] <blindcoder> svn and cvs, actually
[09:39] <th> cool
[09:39] <th> there is a broken image
[09:39] <th> http://pallas.crash-override.net:800/viewrep/rockdoc/?linegraph
[09:39] <blindcoder> including rss views on any directory you want
[09:39] <blindcoder> yes, it's broken
[09:39] <blindcoder> probably missing libraries
[09:40] <th> oh it's commercial?
[09:40] <th> takes a long time to browse rock
[09:40] <blindcoder> you can get a free license for open source projects
[09:40] <blindcoder> give me some java optimising options :)
[09:40] <blindcoder> that whole beast is written in java
[09:41] <th> tons of 500
[09:41] <th> (internal error)
[09:41] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:41] <blindcoder> where?
[09:42] <th> http://pallas.crash-override.net:800/viewrep/rockdoc/trunk/pages/RockSubstitions
[09:42] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:44] <th> anywhere
[09:44] <blindcoder> guess that qualifies as Bad
[09:44] <th> anywhen
[09:44] <th> on any fil
[09:44] <th> on any file
[09:45] <th> on history and download as well
[09:45] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[09:45] <th> _not_ on diffs
[09:45] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:47] <blindcoder> okay, image creation works on ceres, but not on pallas
[10:00] <netrunne1> moin
[10:00] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner
[10:00] <blindcoder> moin netrunner 
[10:06] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:06] <blindcoder> on ceres everything works fine
[10:06] <blindcoder> th: http://scavenger.homeip.net:800/
[10:14] <blindcoder> ARGH
[10:14] Action: blindcoder curses java
[10:15] <blindcoder> it needs libXp which is - you guessed it - part of an xserver
[10:15] Action: blindcoder emerges xorg
[10:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: there is an option to run java "headless" ..
[10:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: problem is that: /opt/j2sdk1.4.2_09/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:24] <netrunner> maybe with -Djava.awt.headless=true
[10:26] Action: blindcoder tries
[10:26] <blindcoder> nope, same problem
[10:27] <netrunner> ah, that was for running java without x11 display.
[10:27] <netrunner> blindcoder: I solved that by copying the few necessary libs.
[10:28] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes, but Pallas is an AMD system while Ceres is a Pentium3 system
[10:28] <netrunner> blindcoder: that was one of the times where I requested splitting out those basic libs into an exttra .gem
[10:28] <blindcoder> each optimised for its respective arch
[10:28] <netrunner> blindcoder: you compare carrots with fruits. compare carrots with apples or vegetable with fruits please.
[10:28] <blindcoder> until then you can have a look at fisheye here: http://scavenger.homeip.net:800/ :)
[10:29] <blindcoder> I do?
[10:29] <blindcoder> ah, yes
[10:29] <blindcoder> I see
[10:29] <netrunner> AMD-Intel, or AMD K6/2- Intel P3
[10:29] <netrunner> (e.g.)
[10:29] <blindcoder> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ - Intel Pentium 3
[10:29] <netrunner> so I say that athlon can run pentium 3 optimized binaries.
[10:30] <blindcoder> oh
[10:30] <blindcoder> if it doesn't I just lost 10 minutes compile time because of you :P
[10:31] <netrunner> blindcoder: p3 is used by redhat/suse as common base for build optimization (upgraded from p-mmx some years ago)
[10:31] <netrunner> suits most of current computers.
[10:31] <blindcoder> I see
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[10:40] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:41] <blindcoder> a 130MB upload or a 1h compile
[10:41] <blindcoder> might not be that much difference
[10:41] <netrunner> blindcoder: you do not need the whole package if you just want to run java. just those 2 libs.
[10:42] <netrunner> ok, maybe a few. but not much.
[10:42] <blindcoder> two libs?
[10:42] <blindcoder> libXp and?
[10:42] <netrunner> maybe a few more, but should be hand-countable.
[10:42] <netrunner> try it :)
[10:43] <blindcoder> okay
[10:43] <netrunner>         libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x403b2000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x403b9000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x403fa000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40403000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40417000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libXtst.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libXtst.so.6 (0x40422000)
[10:43] <netrunner>         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40427000)
[10:43] <netrunner> that should be it. 
[10:44] Action: blindcoder tries
[10:50] <blindcoder> YAY
[10:50] Action: blindcoder hugs netrunner 
[11:56] <daja77> hm lq mail, does that mean that we have our forum now?
[12:21] <blindcoder> daja77: I haven't got one yet :(
[12:21] <blindcoder> daja77: what's it say?
[12:24] <blindcoder> http://pallas.crash-override.net:800/
[12:24] <blindcoder> working fine now
[13:43] <daja77> blindcoder: just a general mail about updates and a conference they are attending
[13:43] <blindcoder> ah
[13:44] <blindcoder> guess I didn't subscribe to the newsletter then :)
[13:44] <daja77> :)
[13:44] <blindcoder> guess I'll write jeremy about the status
[14:24] Action: clifford is curious if the e17 update is tested.
[14:26] <blindcoder> never used e17 so far
[14:26] <daja77> wow the second sm sync without a single conflict
[14:26] <clifford> I am already happy if it builds..
[14:28] <blindcoder> heh
[14:29] <clifford> the snapshot we have in trunk now is the cause for > 50% of our build errors.
[14:29] <clifford> I tried an update multiple times but never found a snapshot which built with less errors..
[14:31] <blindcoder> so it is "stable"
[14:31] <blindcoder> it doesn't rot further :)
[14:39] <clifford> and the fscking e17 CVS sever is always resetting my connections... *grml*
[14:40] <blindcoder> heh
[14:44] <netrunner> re
[14:45] Action: netrunner now uses fixed network. hope that reduces the 7 secs delay in voip
[14:45] <blindcoder> 7 secs is okay :P
[14:46] <netrunner> someone knows an xml like standard for representing diagrams?
[14:46] <blindcoder> no, but you could define one :)
[14:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: well, that task I just got, but thought why reinvent the weel?
[14:47] <blindcoder> heh, okay
[14:47] <blindcoder> sorry, can't help you there
[14:49] <daja77> dia files 
[14:49] Action: daja77 hides
[14:50] <blindcoder> dia files?
[14:50] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:51] <daja77> yes native format of dia diagramm drawing tool, uses xml ...
[14:52] <blindcoder> ah
[14:52] <netrunner> daja77: have you had a look at it?
[14:52] <daja77> not really
[14:53] <daja77> just used dia for drawing and had a glance at the xml once
[14:53] <daja77> just a thought there might be others as well
[14:54] <daja77> or perhaps use svg that's xml based iirc
[15:08] <clifford> OT: any chemistry expert here?
[15:09] <ija> what do you want to know?
[15:09] <blindcoder> heh :)
[15:09] Action: daja77 grins
[15:10] Action: clifford want to know how a OH- molem molecule is different from O- ...
[15:10] <ija> --> query
[15:12] Action: netrunner would say there's a H more :)
[15:13] <daja77> hehe
[15:19] Action: clifford now understands it..
[15:20] <ija> fine
[15:20] <blindcoder> about time *hides*
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[15:28] <treo> hi
[16:31] <netrunner> hm, is it a good idea to put an lvm over multiple dm-crypt blockdevices to overcome fat32 filesize restrictions? *wonder*
[16:32] <blindcoder> hoeh?
[16:34] <netrunner> our kde installation lacks samba support.
[16:35] <blindcoder> sucks
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[17:07] <clifford> the e17 update is obviously compleatly untestet..  *grml*
[17:07] <daja77> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/map24_logo_test.html
[17:09] <clifford> daja77: thanks. my konqueror crashed with a SIGSEGV.
[17:09] <blindcoder> cute :)
[17:09] <daja77> O_o
[17:09] <daja77> this service is at no extra price ;)
[17:18] <daja77> perhaps because of the java stuff
[17:18] <daja77> tried in firefox
[17:35] <th> works in firefox
[17:37] <daja77> :)
[17:49] <th> and looks nice ;)
[17:50] <daja77> ^^
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[23:27] <treo> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/treo/brain | bye
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[23:46] <blindcoder> moin
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