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[08:29] <blindcoder> moin
[08:33] <blindcoder> YAY!
[08:34] <blindcoder> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/f65
[08:53] <daja77> nice a place to dump all my dumb questions to
[08:54] <th> like "who broke the kde build?"
[08:54] <daja77> yes
[08:54] <daja77> and what is rocklinux anyway
[08:54] <blindcoder> hehe
[08:54] <blindcoder> true :)
[08:54] <blindcoder> we still need a good entry in the WhatIsROCK wikipage
[08:55] <th> and "why is no-one sending tested patches?"
[08:55] <daja77> btw crystal build without paranoia checks finished ...
[08:55] <daja77> no-one?
[08:55] <blindcoder> th: clifford is testing patches isn't he? :)
[08:55] <th> i was talking of stable ;_
[08:55] <th> i was talking of stable ;)
[08:55] <blindcoder> ah
[08:56] <daja77> why is everybody too lazy to send 2.0 patches
[08:57] <th> we've just to few manpower.
[08:57] <th> s,to,too,
[08:57] <blindcoder> and compile power
[08:57] <daja77> yes
[08:57] <blindcoder> well, maybe I get some SGI workstations ad servers soon
[08:57] <th> i've idling machine.
[08:57] <th> s
[08:57] <th> ...machines.
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[09:01] <blindcod1r> the only idle machine here is my gaming machine
[09:01] <blindcod1r> which I'm hesitant to even move a centimeter from where it stands
[09:02] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[09:02] <th> you need to MOVE it to let it build?
[09:02] <blindcoder> no, but compiling produces heat on the cpu
[09:02] <blindcoder> which is... well...
[09:02] <th> it's cold outside
[09:02] <blindcoder> a pin broke recently
[09:03] <blindcoder> from the cpu
[09:03] <th> uh
[09:03] <blindcoder> so I took the soul of an old 10BaseT coax cable
[09:03] <th> so it's not really "idle"
[09:03] <blindcoder> a nailfile
[09:03] <blindcoder> and some pliers
[09:03] <blindcoder> shove the soul into the socket where the pin was missing
[09:03] <blindcoder> and forced the cpu back on
[09:03] <blindcoder> making contact between cpu and socket with that soul
[09:04] <blindcoder> no, it's turned off
[09:33] <blindcoder> daja77: I added the LTDD stuff into the newsbox under your name
[09:33] <daja77> ah ok
[09:33] <daja77> have to leave for a massage now
[09:34] <blindcoder> wee, nice :)
[09:34] <blindcoder> have fun :)
[09:34] <daja77> thx
[10:08] <netrunner> blindcoder: I built samba and kdebase last week with your patches, but kdebase didn't find samba.
[10:19] <blindcoder> netrunner: well, it did here...
[10:23] <netrunner> hm. pkg_samba_prefix should not contain a / on first position, as it is only prefix.
[10:23] <netrunner> kdebase.conf also contains a typo. but nothing related to my problem.
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[10:31] Action: netrunner building kdebase again to see config.log
[10:43] <netrunner> You're missing libsmbclient from samba 3.0
[10:44] <netrunner> oh, //opt/samba/lib/libsmbclient.so: undefined reference to `ldap_value_free'
[10:44] <netrunner> their definition of "miss" lacks accuracy
[10:45] Action: netrunner running ldconfig in build/buildid
[10:47] <blindcoder> hehe
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[10:58] <blindcoder> argh
[10:58] <blindcoder> can someone tell me how to find a 1 hz clock generator in that damn crap piece of shit called conrad.de?
[11:04] <netrunner> blindcoder: does your build contain openldap?
[11:05] <blindcoder> mine -q openldap says no
[11:06] <netrunner> blindcoder: see. I have a full build, and there libsmbclient is linked with liblber, and therefore also needs pkg_openldap_prefix/lib
[11:07] <blindcoder> yes, so?
[11:08] Action: netrunner adding some var_appends to kdebase.conf
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[11:12] <blindcoder> moin aneredes
[11:36] <clifford> moin
[11:41] <daja77> clifford: did you have a shared files conflict between qt and kdelibs in your build?
[11:42] <blindcoder> moin clifford 
[11:45] <blindcoder> narf
[11:45] <blindcoder> how difficult can it be to get a 1 hz clock generator?
[11:45] <clifford> daja77: no. do you have some?
[11:46] <daja77> yes both had $KD3_PREFIX/qt/qtplugin33rc hope the name was correct
[11:47] <clifford> hmmm...
[11:48] <daja77> I supposethat it tried to register sth and added something to that file, first thought because of the samba hack but that was in kdebase which is later
[12:03] <netrunner> ts, this gets annoying
[12:04] <daja77> hm?
[12:04] <blindcoder> tell me about it
[12:05] <blindcoder> I'm now at a point where I'm going to take a 32768 Hz quarz, wire it to a 15 bit counter and AND all outputs to get a 1 Hz signal
[12:05] <clifford> daja77: are you sure that the file really changed? (compare the md5 checksums of the both packages)
[12:05] <daja77> no actually I switched off paranoia check because I desperately need that system to install on my laptop ...
[12:06] <netrunner> how do I specify multiple dirs with --with-extra-libs?
[12:06] <netrunner> I tried --with-extra-libs='foo bar' but it removes 'bar' from option string.
[12:07] <netrunner> maybe the quotes get removed ...
[12:17] <daja77> =foo:bar does not work?
[12:19] <netrunner> I can try ...
[12:21] <netrunner> but iirc the configure goes through it with for i in $extralibs;
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[12:28] <netrunner> ok, the : brings it in. but it still doesn't find it :(
[12:28] <netrunner> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin
[12:28] <netrunner> ound (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
[12:28] <netrunner> hm, lost a line.
[12:28] <netrunner> /usr/lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin
[12:28] <netrunner> ound (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
[12:28] <netrunner> eh? 
[12:29] <netrunner> arg, the line starts with /, and irssi thinks its a command ;)
[12:29] <netrunner>  /ld: warning: libldap-2.2.so.7, needed by //opt/samba/lib/libsmbclient.so, not f
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[12:31] <netrunner> but the ld is now (thx daja77) called with -L/opt/openldap/lib, so why doesn't he find the lib?
[12:31] <daja77> no idea but such situations
[12:31] <blindcoder> LDFLAGS="-Lfoo -Lbar"
[12:33] <daja77> or exporting LD_LIBRARY_PATH worst solution
[12:36] <blindcoder> heh
[12:36] <blindcoder> so, anyone got a better idea than a 32768 quarz and a 15 bit adder?
[12:37] <daja77> no and if you take 5min time you might get the idea why you won't get a 1hz quarz
[12:38] <blindcoder> I know why I won't
[12:38] <daja77> good
[12:38] <blindcoder> because it would be a few meters in size
[12:38] <daja77> exactly
[12:38] <daja77> <- got that question in an exam ^^
[12:38] <blindcoder> heh
[12:39] <blindcoder> so, add two more binary adders to the shopping list
[12:43] <blindcoder> narf, damn conrad.de ate my shopping cart
[12:47] <netrunner> hehehe
[12:48] <blindcoder> The counter can be cascaded in the ripple mode by connecting Q4 to the enable input of the subsequent counter while the clock input of the latter is held low.
[12:48] <blindcoder> so that means that I can simulate the overflow bit this way?
[12:49] <netrunner> blindcoder: I already have -L/opt/openldap/lib in the ld call. But he does still not find the library at that place.
[12:50] <blindcoder> netrunner: maybe it is just as broken as samba? by installing in /opt/openldap/lib/openldap?
[12:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, the lib is there.
[12:54] <blindcoder> strange
[12:58] <clifford> whoha! I just got the first conflict on "sm sync" since we have switched to the new on-disk format.
[12:59] <clifford> (in was in scripts/dep_db.txt, btw)
[13:02] <daja77> hehe
[13:02] <daja77> my first time ...
[13:08] <daja77> hm is it a big probkem if termcap wasn't build in bootdisk?
[13:12] <netrunner> https://www.square.de/images/tittenpudding.jpg
[13:23] <netrunner> mc has a serious problem with our : in filenames.
[13:24] <netrunner> Can't locate hostname: doc-4.1.40-pre8-0.gem 
[13:24] <netrunner> (and dumps core)
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[14:49] <netrunner> hm, shouldn't use utf8 in blog entries when the server is not utf8 :)
[15:08] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:08] <blindcoder> this is interesting
[15:09] <blindcoder> "I want to reach more people with information about BeLUG stuff! So if you have an idea how to do it, post it to the mailinglist!"
[15:16] <daja77> ?
[15:21] <blindcoder> ? indeed :)
[15:22] <daja77> I don't get the message
[15:22] <daja77> ah now
[15:22] <daja77> start spamming ^^
[15:23] <blindcoder> nah, still busy with this binary clock thing
[15:24] <blindcoder> I still don't know how to get it onto a 100cmx50cm board
[15:24] <blindcoder> well, how to arrange the leds, that is
[15:25] <blindcoder> so that it doesn't look like the utter waste of space that it is
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[15:29] <owl> hi
[15:30] <blindcoder> moin moin
[15:30] <netrunner> hi owl
[15:31] <owl> hi blindcoder , netrunner 
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[16:00] <netrunner> configure:39866: checking for Java
[16:00] <netrunner> pfrt. kde going to get slower if it notices I have java somewhere? :)
[16:01] <netrunner> but setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH seems to help kdebase find samba
[16:01] <netrunner> with the linked ldap
[16:06] <blindcoder> well, that can't be a permanent solution, can it?
[16:08] <netrunner> why?
[16:08] <netrunner> other packages use it.
[16:08] <blindcoder> because LD_LIBRARY_PATH is ugly :(
[16:09] <netrunner> oh well :)
[16:17] Action: netrunner found the chair's video server. nice :)
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[22:44] <madtux> hello
[22:46] <ija> hi madtux 
[22:47] <madtux> hello ija 
[22:50] <owl> hi ija , madtux *g*
[23:01] <daja77> hello don miguel
[23:06] <madtux> Hello Mr. Casanova... i mean Mr Daniel.
[23:07] <daja77> :P
[23:09] <mnemoc> :)
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