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[08:21] <blindcoder> esden: hmm, that's bad then
[09:03] <esden> yes I know ... but I did not even had a possibility to create traffic ... I was not online since over two weeks ...
[09:04] Action: esden off to ingolstadt
[09:04] <esden> blindcoder: we will see eachother hopefully
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[09:11] <netrunner> moin
[09:11] <blindcoder> moin moin
[09:12] <blindcoder> netrunner: got a link for http://www.rocklinux.org/devblogs.html ?
[09:16] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you want... http://andreas.anvame.net/blog/blosxom.cgi
[09:17] <netrunner> but nothing technical there :) ... almost.
[09:18] <daja77> doesn't matter
[09:19] <blindcoder> indeed :)
[09:20] <blindcoder> netrunner: Maier or Meier? I can't seem to remember that ever
[09:22] <daja77> the latter
[09:22] <blindcoder> okay
[09:23] <blindcoder> will be on on next cycle
[09:31] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:32] <blindcoder> APR error 210002
[09:32] <blindcoder> whatever that may be
[09:43] <blindcoder> clifford: since it seems I'm killing off your subversion server with fisheye, I've disabled it for now. I'll check if it's some kind of incompatibility. Could you please check if subversion dying might be a problem on your end, too?
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[09:54] <blindcoder> bbl
[10:59] Action: netrunner checking his prog with valgrind and gets memory leaks in glibc
[11:00] <clifford> blindcoder: why don't you make a local mirror of the repository?
[11:01] <clifford> netrunner: are you sure? I'm using valgrind for most of my stuff and never have seen such a thing..
[11:02] <netrunner> clifford: no I am not. I use valgrind for the first time.
[11:03] <netrunner> maybe I am interpreting that wrong.
[11:03] <th> clifford: what's the subversion version on phoenix?
[11:03] <th> for the server
[11:05] <netrunner> clifford: just read it's a feature of glibc :)
[11:05] <netrunner> but now I know that the application I am writing a plugin for doesn't delete me, which makes valgrind blame leaks to me :(
[11:05] <clifford> th: "Powered by Subversion version 1.1.3 (r12730)."
[11:06] <clifford> .. copied from the http/https directory indexes.
[11:09] <blindcoder> clifford: if you can tell me how to set it up :)
[11:09] <clifford> svm help
[11:09] <clifford> ;-)
[11:09] <blindcoder> okay
[11:09] <blindcoder> -su: svm: command not found
[11:10] <blindcoder> :(
[11:10] <clifford> svm is pretty simple to use..
[11:10] <clifford> .. are you using submaster?
[11:10] <blindcoder> ehm, no?
[11:10] <clifford> aha.
[11:10] <clifford> (sm needs svm)
[11:10] <th> what IS svm?
[11:10] <blindcoder> where should svm be in?
[11:11] <clifford> cpan-svn-mirror
[11:12] <blindcoder> UARGH!
[11:12] <blindcoder> all cpan* is now being downloaded...
[11:13] <clifford> what did you do?
[11:14] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg cpan-svn-mirror
[11:17] <clifford> hmm.. "Build-Pkg -download" would also have this bug...
[11:17] <th> blindcoder: btw - is our udev package now posix-compatible and providing /dev/{ide,scsi,discs}?
[11:17] <blindcoder> th: no, not yet :(
[11:17] <blindcoder> th: I lost our query window
[11:19] <blindcoder> hmm
[11:19] <blindcoder> svm sync barfs
[11:19] <clifford> bad svm! sit! sit!
[11:19] <daja77> hehe
[11:19] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# svm sync /home/svn/rock-linux/
[11:19] <blindcoder> Syncing svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux
[11:19] <blindcoder> Retrieving log information from 1 to 6407
[11:20] <blindcoder> Usage: svn_ra_get_log(session,paths,start,end,limit,discover_changed_paths,strict_node_history,receiver,receiver_baton,pool); at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/SVN/Mirror/Ra.pm line 597.
[11:20] <daja77> you need cpan-uri and cpan-svn-simple as well
[11:21] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[11:21] <blindcoder> why doesn't it say so *grumble*
[11:21] <daja77> btw why isn't submaster in core?
[11:21] <clifford> daja77: do you really think it should be?
[11:22] <daja77> yes it is one thing that makes rock special ;)
[11:22] <th> blindcoder: use the log?
[11:25] <blindcoder> th: of a query window?
[11:25] <blindcoder> svm still doesn't work :(
[11:25] <daja77> clifford: have you tried a crystal install with postinstall scripts lately?
[11:26] <th> blindcoder: yes
[11:26] <th> blindcoder: does your IRC client log?
[11:26] <clifford> daja77: I'm going to do that today.
[11:26] <clifford> why?
[11:27] <blindcoder> th: no
[11:27] <th> blindcoder: that's a bad thing
[11:27] <blindcoder> th: only when I'm away it logs the highlight messages
[11:27] <th> blindcoder: irssi?
[11:27] <blindcoder> th: yes
[11:27] <th> blindcoder: why dont you turn logging on?
[11:27] <daja77> after stone finished with grub I had two scripts that were called in an endless loop at least it looked like that to me
[11:27] <blindcoder> th: why would I?
[11:28] <th> blindcoder: cause it feels good to be sure to have any information stored that was once in your irc client
[11:28] <th> blindcoder: shall i send you my log of our query?
[11:28] <netrunner> th: #rocklinux is archived at rl.net
[11:28] <th> netrunner: queries aren't
[11:29] <blindcoder> th: would just waste my harddisk, I'm in some quite busy channels.
[11:29] <netrunner> oh queries :)
[11:29] <blindcoder> th: please do
[11:29] <th> rcpt?
[11:30] <blindcoder> any ideawhy this svm won't do?
[11:31] <clifford> th: queries are loged in a secret area where only I have access..  *g*
[11:31] <th> clifford: heh ;)
[11:32] <blindcoder> clifford: do you also store my private mail just in case I accidentally delete $HOME again?
[11:33] <clifford> blindcoder: what is the error message now?
[11:34] <daja77> .oO (so clifford knows about my dirty talks with blindy)
[11:34] <blindcoder> clifford: the same as above
[11:35] <blindcoder> daja77: guess we need to change networks for that in the future
[11:35] <daja77> :D
[11:36] <clifford> and svm init worked fine?
[11:36] <blindcoder> yes
[11:37] <clifford> huch: /home/svn/.. ?
[11:37] <blindcoder> I just tried with sm create
[11:37] <clifford> that command line doesn't make sense.
[11:37] <clifford> and? does it work?
[11:37] <blindcoder> no
[11:37] <blindcoder> I also tried:
[11:37] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# SVMREPOS=/home/svn/rock-linux svm sync mirror/rock-linux
[11:37] <clifford> hmm..
[11:38] <blindcoder> same with svm init mirror/rock-linux svn://blah/
[11:38] <blindcoder> Usage: svn_ra_get_log(session,paths,start,end,limit,discover_changed_paths,strict_node_history,receiver,receiver_baton,pool); at /usr/bin/svm line 102.
[11:38] <blindcoder> that's what I get with sm create
[11:38] <clifford> I don'[t understand you. would you mind to order your thoughts before posting them?
[11:38] <blindcoder> okay, I'll send you what I got with sm create:
[11:39] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# sm create svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk foo
[11:39] <blindcoder> Creating local repository ...
[11:39] <blindcoder> Committed revision 1.
[11:39] <blindcoder> Initial sync with master (may take some time) ...
[11:39] <blindcoder> Usage: svn_ra_get_log(session,paths,start,end,limit,discover_changed_paths,strict_node_history,receiver,receiver_baton,pool); at /usr/bin/svm line 102.
[11:39] <blindcoder> Creating local working copy ...
[11:39] <blindcoder> Setting up submaster metadata ...
[11:39] <blindcoder> Can't get current revision number for file:///root/foo.sm/SVN/MASTER.
[11:41] <clifford> what it the md5sum of your /usr/bin/svm ?
[11:42] <clifford> what version of svm are you using? (mine -q cpan-svn-mirror)
[11:42] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# mine -q cpan-svn-mirror
[11:42] <blindcoder> cpan-svn-mirror 0.51 0
[11:42] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# md5sum /usr/bin/svm
[11:42] <blindcoder> ce852be2791f00d85b6a60dda22359fe  /usr/bin/svm
[11:43] <clifford> this is far to old.
[11:43] <blindcoder> oh
[11:43] <clifford> in trunk we are using svm 0.64
[11:44] Action: blindcoder running svn up
[11:46] <clifford> we updated to that version on 2005-07-27
[11:46] <blindcoder> I haven't run svn up on pallas for some time...
[11:47] <blindcoder> besides, that's only two months :P
[11:47] <blindcoder> yay, works :)
[11:48] <clifford> congrats!
[11:49] <blindcoder> okay, so I'll run svm sync every once in a while and update fisheye from there
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[13:11] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[13:11] <blindcoder> svm doesn't mirror properties
[13:11] <netrunner> http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,68962,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
[13:12] <blindcoder> http://spi.iichan.net/fb/src/1127519685872.gif
[13:12] <blindcoder> btw :)
[13:23] <blindcoder> ouch, 80MB fisheye debug log...
[13:28] <blindcoder> clifford: okay, works with local copy now. do you have any logfile entries indicating why svnserve would have crashed?
[13:32] <clifford> did you use svnserve or webdav ?
[13:32] <clifford> ep 30 09:28:46 phoenix inetd[285]: svn/tcp server failing (looping or being flooded), service terminated for 10 min
[13:32] <clifford> how many sessions did you open?
[13:35] <blindcoder> clifford: svnserve
[13:35] <blindcoder> clifford: one
[13:36] <blindcoder> clifford: but it probably opened a connection for each revision
[13:37] <blindcoder> I'll forward this to cenqua
[13:37] <clifford> the default inetd behavior is to shut down a service when more than 40 connections per minute are opened.
[13:38] <clifford> then it prints the log message I have quoted above.
[13:38] <blindcoder> I see
[13:39] <blindcoder> well, it works with the local mirror so I guess we keep it that way
[13:39] <clifford> ok. thats fine with me.
[13:40] <blindcoder> yeah, I run svnserve directly and not through inetd, that's why I didn't get that error :)
[14:46] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[14:46] <blindcoder> gotta reindex rock-linux once moreo
[14:46] <blindcoder> because I misunderstood how svm init mirror/rock-linux svn://blah/ works
[14:49] <blindcoder> okay, this'll take another 5000 seconds
[14:51] <blindcoder> bbl
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[15:47] <blindcoder> back
[15:47] <daja77> wb
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[15:56] <clifford> daja77: I can confirm the install problem now.
[15:56] <clifford> .. and I know what it is.
[15:57] <daja77> good :)
[15:58] <blindcoder> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/
[15:58] <blindcoder> finally up and running :D
[15:59] <daja77> :)
[16:00] <blindcoder> syncing mine every 15 minutes and rock-linux every 15+2 minutes
[16:01] <clifford> daja77: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005093016000513460
[16:01] <th> blindcoder: it took one minute and 15 seconds to respond to my request by clicking the "browse" button
[16:02] <netrunner> blindcoder: still waiting
[16:02] <blindcoder> th: give me more raw processing power or dive into the repository
[16:02] <blindcoder> both speeds up displaying :)
[16:03] <th> D'oh 500
[16:03] <th> FishEye was unable to process your request.
[16:03] <th> it's been 4 clicks or so
[16:03] <blindcoder> where did you click?
[16:03] <th> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/viewrep/ROCKLinux/branches/2.0-stable/scripts
[16:03] <th> that was the last click
[16:04] <th> i just browsed there
[16:05] <blindcoder> I'll make a feature request to make displaying the lines graph optional
[16:05] <blindcoder> because that's what takes so much time...
[16:05] <blindcoder> at least according to the debug log
[16:06] <clifford> anyone against or for applying [2005093016000513460] now? it's a showstopper imo..
[16:06] <blindcoder> java.lang.NullPointerException
[16:06] <blindcoder> WEE
[16:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: dont tell me that this fisheye is java
[16:07] <esden> ping blindcoder 
[16:07] <blindcoder> esden: pond
[16:07] <blindcoder> netrunner: it is
[16:08] <blindcoder> clifford: you just renamed the file?
[16:08] <esden> blindcoder: where are you?
[16:08] <clifford> blindcoder: yes.
[16:08] <blindcoder> clifford: I fail to see why it's a showstopper, still, no complaints here
[16:08] <daja77> clifford: no objection
[16:09] <daja77> blindcoder: /me complained
[16:09] <blindcoder> esden: at home
[16:09] <clifford> this stops the logic in scripts/functions to install the usr/sbin/postinstall script as /etc/postintall.d/sysfiles-postinstall.sh
[16:09] <clifford> and so postinstall doesn't call itself in an endless loop anymore.
[16:09] <esden> blindcoder: you said something that you will be in ingolstadt this weekend?
[16:09] <blindcoder> aah, I see
[16:09] <blindcoder> esden: I will
[16:09] <blindcoder> esden: My plane goes tomorrow morning
[16:09] <daja77> is this the same reason why I don't have a directory for the postinstall scripts on this new crystal here?
[16:09] <blindcoder> esden: then I'll be at the Oktoberfest for half a hay
[16:09] <esden> nice .... will you find an hour or so for me?
[16:10] <blindcoder> esden: day. Then I'll go to Ingolstadt and back to Berlin at Monday evening
[16:10] <blindcoder> esden: sure :)
[16:10] <clifford> daja77: "a directory for the postinstall scripts" is which directory?
[16:11] <daja77> iirc i got complaints that /var/adm/postinstal does not exits, not sure about the name
[16:11] <clifford> (postinstall has three directories: /etc/postinstall, /etc/postinstall/postremove and /var/adm/postinstall
[16:11] <daja77> the latter
[16:11] <esden> blindcoder: good call me when you are in ingolstadt and know when you can spare time for me ;) ok?
[16:11] <blindcoder> esden: will do
[16:11] <esden> thanks :)
[16:12] <clifford> daja77: no. that's a different bug.
[16:12] Action: clifford looking into it now.
[16:12] <daja77> :)
[16:14] <blindcoder> th: seems it gets confused by the tag/branch/trunk configuration
[16:21] <clifford> daja77: [2005093016205529074]
[16:21] <clifford> .. but this one has to wait for the next test build.
[16:24] <daja77> ok
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[16:28] <blindcoder> th: I just saw on their board that a new version is announced for early next week
[16:28] <blindcoder> th: I'll try that and submit yetanotherbugreport if the problem persists
[16:28] <blindcoder> th: it's also strange that this only happens for some subdirectories
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[17:38] <blindcoder> kaffeine: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.3' not found (required by /usr/lib/gcc/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.so.6)
[17:38] <blindcoder> okay, what to make from this message?
[17:38] <th> .oO(get a real java?)
[17:38] <blindcoder> kaffeine the media player
[17:39] <blindcoder> not kaffee the java replacement
[17:41] <blindcoder>         libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++.so.5 (0x410ea000)
[17:41] <blindcoder>         libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/gcc/i686-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++.so.6 (0x411b8000)
[17:41] <blindcoder> okay, why is it linked against both o_O
[17:41] <th> ahh mixed that up
[17:43] Action: blindcoder removes /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5* and rebuilds kaffeine
[17:47] <blindcoder> O_O
[17:47] <blindcoder> still linked against both
[17:50] <daja77> O_o
[17:52] <blindcoder> mine -r -s gcc32
[17:53] <daja77> yes that will help ...
[17:55] <blindcoder> I only installed it to try to build OOo anyway
[17:56] <daja77> ic
[18:05] <blindcoder> YAY, works :D
[18:05] <blindcoder> and no more CPU hogging, too :D
[18:05] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[18:05] <blindcoder> forget it
[18:05] <blindcoder> still 100% cpu
[18:18] <clifford> ok. the patch for var/adm/postinstall seams to work fine..
[18:18] <clifford> .. the build will hopefully be finished on monday. so I can download the ISOs and check them on tue.
[18:23] <blindcoder> heh
[18:23] <blindcoder> set -o vi
[18:23] <blindcoder> that's nice :)
[18:23] <clifford> didn't know that?
[18:23] <clifford> .. have a look at "vimdiff" then. *g*
[18:24] <clifford> so. afk 'till monday.
[18:24] <daja77> bummer, the ide bus for the hd disk got reset just in the moment the build was finishing
[18:24] <daja77> cu clifford 
[18:27] <blindcoder> bye clifford 
[18:27] <blindcoder> sure knew it, just didn't use it so far
[18:28] <daja77> I hate hardware
[18:29] <blindcoder> yeah, we should replace it completely by middleware
[18:30] <daja77> hehe
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[23:02] <th> firefox in stable is not a "fully supported browser" for gmail
[23:03] <th> is that different in trunk?
[23:03] <th> ne1 knows what the problem is?
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