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[07:40] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.86) joined #rocklinux. [07:40] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.91) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:44] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [09:09] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-040-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:09] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-035-254.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:09] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [09:35] Pilot (n=pilot@corenet-node5.iph.ras.ru) joined #rocklinux. [09:35] <Pilot> hi [10:16] <blindcoder> moin [10:17] clifford (n=clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:42] <th> clifford: hi there [10:42] <th> clifford: please contribute to https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/RockPhilosophy [10:44] <th> clifford: i just copied some scratch from an very early oreilly article [10:47] <blindcoder> th: I've added a link to TextFormatingRules above the textarea in .add and .edit [10:49] <clifford> on 2005-05-02 on this channel: [10:49] <clifford> [17:16] <clifford> SMP: Its using FileSystemEventHandler from System.IO. for recursively monitoring a directory tree. Is that API available with mono/linux ? [10:49] <clifford> [17:18] <SMP> clifford: you mean System.IO.FileSystemWatcher -- yes, there are even two implementation ;-) [10:49] <clifford> .. but they can't do effective recursive monitoring!! [10:49] <clifford> *grml* [10:50] <blindcoder> o_O [10:50] <blindcoder> ?? context [10:50] <blindcoder> rockbot: Sorry, I don't know about context. [10:50] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/rocklinux.log.20050502.html [10:50] <clifford> ;-) [10:51] <blindcoder> you know, I'm on songle ISDN here... [10:51] <blindcoder> single [10:51] <clifford> so you can't download a 20k file? [10:52] <clifford> ISDN isn't that slow.. ;-) [10:52] <blindcoder> oh, I thought it was one of them colored logs [10:52] <blindcoder> too much #nethack-offtopic recently [10:54] <clifford> no. I have just added this html log because it looks like google doesn't like the ascii files.. [10:56] <th> blindcoder: yea cool - thanks [10:56] <blindcoder> ah, I see [10:56] <blindcoder> clifford: well, strange enough, most people come to rockdoc by searching for "debian" "debian network" or "grub grub grub grub" [10:59] Pilot (n=pilot@corenet-node5.iph.ras.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [11:03] ija (i=[KhFZj95@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:04] daja77 (i=[8f65Yh5@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:06] <netrunner> moin [11:07] <blindcoder> moin moin [11:25] <clifford> hmm... https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk/Documentation/Developers/POLICY is pretty outdated.. [11:54] <blindcoder> hmm [11:54] <blindcoder> whenever I see my phone number I think I forgot something... [11:55] <owl> hi [11:55] <owl> haeh? [11:55] <blindcoder> it ends in 404 [11:55] <blindcoder> moin owl :) [11:59] <owl> lol :) [11:59] <owl> hi blindy [12:14] <blindcoder> /usr/src/rock-2.1-clifford/download/mirror/c/cpan_packages_20041221.txt.bz2 [12:14] <blindcoder> hmm [12:14] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 2: /usr/src/rock-2.1-clifford/download/mirror/c/cpan_packages_20041221.txt.bz2: No such file or directory [12:28] Action: netrunner thinks submaster will now not be accessible by siemens users. [12:43] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:43] <[raphael]> Hi clifford :) [12:43] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] [12:43] <[raphael]> was the build you started a while ago successfull ? [12:43] <blindcoder> I'm not clifford, but still :) [12:43] <[raphael]> hi blindcoper :) [12:44] <[raphael]> you have an up-to-date crystal build? [12:44] <[raphael]> s/p/d (sorry) [12:44] <[raphael]> I'll be back in a second [12:44] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: Client Quit [12:50] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:51] <blindcoder> [raphael]: cliffords build should be finishged today [12:55] <[raphael]> blindcoder: ah great, did it take so many days? [13:01] <netrunner> ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0804beb0 [13:01] <netrunner> anyone knows how to fight this? [13:04] Action: netrunner *kick [13:04] <netrunner> *s the makefile [13:07] <clifford> hi, [raphael] [13:16] <[raphael]> hi clifford! [13:16] <clifford> yes. the build finished but it had a showstopper bug in he installer. [13:17] <[raphael]> oh, bad [13:17] <clifford> do you want to use it and fiddle with the installer or wait until my current build finishes? [13:17] <[raphael]> well, does a manual build with mine -i work? [13:17] <clifford> yes. [13:17] <[raphael]> I do not need the "graphical" one [13:18] <clifford> even the "grafical" install works - but you need to change some stuff before running cron.run: [13:18] <[raphael]> ok, that sounds ok to me, anything else wrong with it? [13:18] <[raphael]> aha, so some kind of postinstall to do? What is exactly broken? [13:18] <clifford> you need to remove /etc/postinstall/sysfiles-postinstall.sh [13:19] <clifford> and you need to mkdir /var/adm/postinstall [13:19] <[raphael]> alright, and do I need to run sth manually then? (probably ldconfig, updatedb, ...) [13:19] <clifford> (the /etc/postinstall/sysfiles-postinstall.sh is a copy of /usr/sbin/postinstall, so the postinstall script is sourcing itself in an endless loop...) [13:20] <clifford> no. just remove the file and create the directory richt after the packages have been extracted. [13:20] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54996635.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:20] <[raphael]> alright, how large is it? a full CD? [13:21] <clifford> Its a 553M iso image. [13:21] <[raphael]> did you already upload it somewhere? Otherwise I would even prefer postal delivery (Postgebühr zahlt Empfänger) [13:22] <clifford> It's on my home computer - I tell you the URL in a query (so it's not in the IRC log). [13:23] <[raphael]> ok, I can download it as well.. [13:24] <netrunner> hm, are there now any usable filesharing networks left? [13:24] <clifford> I will upload another build which has a working installer, when it is finished. [13:24] <[raphael]> How long do you think will that take? [13:25] <clifford> current state: [13:26] <clifford> 1526 builds total, 825 completed fine, 0 with errors. [13:26] <clifford> then ~10 hours to download it to my workstation in the office and test it. [13:27] <clifford> and the time to upload it to iso.rocklinux.de [13:27] <[raphael]> so, do you think you have that before the weekend? [13:27] <clifford> I think so. [13:27] <[raphael]> I think that would be soon enough [13:27] <clifford> but no guarantee that this one will be error-free. [13:27] <[raphael]> heh ;) [13:29] <[raphael]> how fast is your uplink clifford? [13:29] <[raphael]> (for the currently broken iso?) [13:31] <clifford> it took me ~10 hours to download it from my home pc to the office. [13:32] <clifford> https://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/purity/ [13:32] <clifford> *rotfl* [13:32] <[raphael]> clifford, alright, that's too long to do where I'm now, and at home I'm already a bit close to the dl limits, so I'll wait for the next version of your image [13:32] <[raphael]> clifford: do you have any upload limit? [13:32] <clifford> no. [13:35] <[raphael]> does your new build only contain the postinstall fix or also other improvements? [13:35] <[raphael]> (like new versions of pkgs,...) [13:40] <[raphael]> clifford: I'll use the new build if it is also based on a newer svn version, if you just fixed the install-bug then I'll download your current iso [13:45] <clifford> the new build will be based on a new svn rev. [13:48] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/clifford/results/current/journal.txt [13:48] <clifford> plus the postinstall fix (which is already in svn trunk) and a hotfix for the qt patch. [13:54] <[raphael]> clifford: thanks, I'll wait for this newer build [13:54] <[raphael]> great you keep that journal :) [14:07] <[raphael]> bye all [14:07] <clifford> cu [14:08] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [14:12] <clifford> https://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200510/df20051003.jpg *lol* [14:12] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA [14:16] <esden> bopp! [14:16] <esden> blindcoder: who altered my iptables configuration!!! [14:16] <blindcoder> esden: bad software did, I'm afraid [14:16] <owl> hi esden [14:17] <blindcoder> esden: I was trying a traffic accounting tool which promptly took over the iptables configuration [14:17] <esden> waahhh! [14:17] <esden> ok [14:18] <esden> so when you mess around with it ... and want to change something in iptables please think about that I need masquerading between ppp0 and eth0 ;) [14:18] <esden> thank you ;) [14:18] <blindcoder> can give me the command? [14:19] <esden> /usr/local/sbin/enable_masquerading2 [14:19] <blindcoder> sooo [14:19] <blindcoder> $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE [14:19] <blindcoder> because that script alos clears the itpables [14:20] <esden> erm ... it also does some other things ... do not ask me which but they are also needed ... (security issues iirc) [14:21] <esden> and sbtw the camera I showed you yesterday is real fun to shoot. /me went out today to take some pictures of the surroundings [14:21] Action: esden brb [14:22] <blindcoder> esden: I've added the four rules to the init.pm script [14:26] <esden> ok my connection still works [14:27] <esden> thanks [14:27] <blindcoder> :) [14:27] <blindcoder> I'll rewrite the program to create its own tables [14:27] <esden> kk [14:27] <esden> where can I view the stats? [14:27] <blindcoder> I even had to scmash two bugs before I was usable :( [14:27] <blindcoder> see query [14:28] <esden> what crappy stuff are you using? [14:28] <blindcoder> the best I could find [14:28] <blindcoder> but at least I now have an exucse to roll my own :P [14:29] <esden> humm the https apache is not running on 10.0.0.1 [14:29] <blindcoder> then make him :) [14:29] <blindcoder> already fixed /etc/nsswitch.conf? [14:29] <esden> I would have to alter the certificate for that ... or not? [14:30] <blindcoder> the cert runs on the dns name [14:30] <blindcoder> not the ip [14:31] <esden> kk [14:31] <esden> right [14:34] <esden> ok I was wrong it works on 10.0.0.1 [14:34] <blindcoder> :P [14:35] <owl> sigh. i belive my bird is dead. now. :( [14:35] Action: blindcoder hugs ow [14:35] <blindcoder> l [14:35] <esden> huhu owl [14:35] daja77 (i=[TT8v0rP@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:35] <owl> no. not yet. it still has "todeskraempfe"? but i dont see him breathing [14:35] <owl> hi esden :/ [14:35] ija (i=[ROx6eet@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:35] <esden> ahh ... sbtw i have a photoblog now: https://www.esden.net/photoblog [14:36] <esden> comments are appreciated as always ;) [14:37] <owl> esden: might i link you, please? [14:37] <esden> owl: where? [14:37] <esden> and of course! [14:38] <owl> esden: weblog.karnaya.de -> there [14:38] <owl> thx. [14:38] <esden> ahh you have a weblog too [14:38] <esden> nice [14:39] Action: esden adding owls weblog to his bookmarks [14:39] <owl> thx [14:39] <esden> may I link you on my page too? [14:39] <owl> yes. sure. [14:41] <esden> nice entries [14:41] Action: esden stunned [14:42] <owl> why stunned? [14:42] <esden> owl: the image on the left side of your blog can not be loaded somehow [14:42] Action: owl doesnt see esden photo-log-entries clear because eyes full of tears [14:43] <owl> esden: yes, i know. have to fix it asap. but have no though left for this now. but latter... [14:43] <esden> owl: autsch [14:44] <owl> yes. but bird still alive - shomehow. [14:44] <esden> humm ... [14:44] <owl> for some minutes? :( [14:45] <esden> so take your time to say au revoire in the next life ... [14:45] <owl> hrm. my dad "bohrt loecher in die wand" - with this "laerm" the bird came back or so O_O [14:45] <owl> yes... [14:45] <owl> boah, i guess i have to puke [14:46] Action: esden reaches over a bucket [14:46] <owl> thx :/ [14:46] <esden> I think I go to take some more pictures [14:46] <esden> cu l8er [14:47] <owl> bye esden [15:04] <owl> esden: welblog/images are working again [15:07] <netrunner> damn, I am about to be able to use nx under linux, and am called to lecture by a prof ;) [15:08] <blindcoder> heh [15:09] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [15:09] <blindcoder> *sigh* [15:10] <blindcoder> why does so much free software suck so much :( [15:10] <blindcoder> ~ [15:37] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-082-083-052-111.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:43] <esden> re hi [15:43] <esden> 20 images made ... that should be enough for today ;) [15:43] <blindcoder> heh [15:43] <blindcoder> yeah [15:44] <blindcoder> and I've started writing my own traffic accounting tool [15:45] <blindcoder> esden: could you sketch me the layout for the leds we talked about yesterday? [15:45] <owl> why the fsck does this fscking notebook roast me!?! [15:45] <esden> blindcoder: there are very good ones in the internet [15:46] <blindcoder> tesla edition? *hide* [15:46] <blindcoder> esden: free ones, too? [15:46] <esden> blindcoder: I think so [15:46] <aneredes> re [15:46] <aneredes> hi [15:46] <blindcoder> esden: then they hide from my view [15:46] <esden> netcrow had something running on apollo in the past [15:47] <esden> hi aneredes [15:47] <blindcoder> esden: something that can tell me which appliction run by which user made what traffic? [15:47] <esden> humm ... no ... such one I do not know [15:47] <blindcoder> :) [15:47] <esden> only one that is telling you which port produced how much traffic [15:48] <blindcoder> yeah, I have one like this. You knwo what it did to our itables [15:48] <esden> humm ... most of such apps do so [15:48] <blindcoder> but there's no reason to! [15:48] <blindcoder> absolutely none! [15:48] <esden> yes there is ... they use the iptables counters [15:49] <esden> to get the traffic data [15:49] <blindcoder> no! [15:49] <esden> o_O? [15:49] <blindcoder> you can define custom tables and work in these [15:49] <blindcoder> even that eDonkey monitoring program donitor does it this way [15:49] <esden> yes right that is the other thing [15:49] <[raphael]> clifford: ping [15:50] <blindcoder> esden: so there is no valid reason to flush the iptables rules [15:51] <[raphael]> clifford: never mind, (will contact you later) [15:51] <[raphael]> gotta leave now, bye all, thanks for all your work on ROCK !! [15:51] <blindcoder> [raphael]: bye [15:52] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-082-083-052-099.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:52] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [15:53] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [15:54] <esden> blindcoder: ack [16:06] <esden> ok ... pixelpost is now also integrated into my blog. yepeee [16:12] <blindcoder> phew [16:12] <blindcoder> reading source like netstat's makes your head spin [16:13] <blindcoder> it's great, but to really get what they're doing is not easy [16:13] <blindcoder> brb, coffee [16:25] BoS___ (n=bodo@dslb-084-059-233-129.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:29] <blindcoder> back [16:40] BoS__ (n=bodo@dslc-082-082-070-100.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:22] demian (n=demian@adslnat-rai-cartago-133.ice.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [18:22] <demian> hi [18:23] <mnemoc> wow [18:23] <mnemoc> wb demian [18:24] <demian> mr. mnemoc [18:24] <demian> how have u been? [18:24] <mnemoc> quite good, and you? [18:25] <demian> pretty good too. :D [18:25] <mnemoc> good :) [18:25] <demian> i have some time without taking a look @ rock. how are things going around? [18:26] <owl> hi demian [18:26] <demian> current versions? [18:26] <demian> hi owl ! :) [18:28] <mnemoc> 2.0.3 is the last stable, and crystal is the official 1-CD ROCK-based distribution [19:17] <demian> cu later [19:17] demian (n=demian@adslnat-rai-cartago-133.ice.co.cr) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [19:37] <owl> nice. duracell-owl. this notebook-case has - with no high-load - over 1 volt energy/voltage... [19:41] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:51] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:24] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [20:24] <fake> re hi [20:24] <owl> hi fake [20:40] aneredes (i=hannes@siff.bl0rg.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:07] <fake> hi owlita [21:08] <owl> fake: do you need something to laugh about? [21:08] <fake> bring it on [21:09] <owl> fake: https://weblog.karnaya.de/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=19&blogId=1 [21:10] <fake> why did you blind out 'saturn' ? [21:11] <owl> because those pack has lawyers... [21:11] <owl> (which often send "abmahungen" etc. to people with negative thoughts) [21:13] <fake> owl: that's not true. they can't stop you, as long as you limit it to your case and your opinion. [21:14] <fake> they can't gag you, you have the right to speak ;) [21:17] <owl> fake: hrm. i dunno. don4t want to prove it ;) [21:22] <esden> bopp [21:22] <owl> hi esden [21:22] <esden> huhu [21:22] <esden> my photoblog now has nice links ;) [21:22] <esden> I love mod_rewrite [21:24] <owl> *g* [22:14] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:21] <blindcoder> hi [22:21] <blindcoder> anyone got a phone number of hannes? [22:21] <owl> blindcoder: no. [22:22] <blindcoder> damn [22:22] <blindcoder> he wantded to be there at 21:45 [22:22] <blindcoder> my flight was delayed, now I've been there at 22:10 [22:22] <blindcoder> and he was nowhere in sight [22:23] <owl> blindcoder: hrm. he travvels by train? [22:23] <blindcoder> not to mention that my gf is bitchy because I haven't called her since Saturday [22:23] <blindcoder> ARGH [22:23] <blindcoder> what a great day [22:23] <blindcoder> yes, he does [22:24] <owl> blindcoder: then don't mind. his train will be delayed till midnight [22:25] <blindcoder> o_O [22:25] <owl> hm? [22:25] <blindcoder> why's that/ [22:25] <blindcoder> ? [22:25] <owl> because it's normal bussiness at DB? [22:26] <blindcoder> hrpmf [22:26] <blindcoder> I thought something special [22:26] <owl> no. or better: dunno [22:27] <blindcoder> okay [22:27] <owl> well... he will "sich ruehren" i guess? [22:28] <blindcoder> he said he'll get going at 20:45 in a query [22:28] <owl> well. did he? [22:29] <blindcoder> I think so or he wouldn't have said it [22:30] <blindcoder> 20:42 <aneredes> uich mach dann jett bald mal richting spandau auf [22:30] <owl> hrm. ok. [22:55] <blindcoder> daja77: *hug* [22:56] <owl> blindcoder: still no hannes? [22:56] <blindcoder> he's here now [22:56] <owl> hehe, where he was? delayed DB? ;P greetings to him, please [22:56] <blindcoder> got on the wrong train [22:57] <owl> hehe [22:57] <owl> where did he arrive? [23:06] <blindcoder> wrong way simlpy [23:06] <blindcoder> anyway, bedtime [23:06] <blindcoder> bye [23:06] <daja77> blindcoder: ? [23:09] <owl> gn8 blindcoder [00:00] --- Tue Oct 4 2005