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[00:24] Brian_L (n=brian@pcp09188441pcs.towson01.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:35] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) joined #rocklinux. [01:47] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-110-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:54] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:54] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:57] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.15) joined #rocklinux. [04:57] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.85) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:00] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [06:48] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-050-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) got netsplit. [06:49] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-050-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) returned to #rocklinux. [07:31] <blindcoder> moin [08:07] <cutio> olla [08:08] <blindcoder> /usr/include/features.h:295:25: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory [08:08] <blindcoder> should that worry me? [08:09] <blindcoder> indeed it should [08:10] <cutio> brr i just found an old hd with an even older rocklinux on it and the first thing was: bad superblock *sigh* [08:13] <blindcoder> heh [08:13] <blindcoder> those old things are better left buried *amen* [08:14] <cutio> well its an 40gb maxtor with heaqdcrash some month ago but miraculously works again [08:16] <blindcoder> o_O [08:16] <blindcoder> I wish my headcrashes would just miraculously work again... [08:18] <cutio> try voodoo [08:24] <blindcoder> my last voodoo3 card is also bust [08:25] <cutio> i only had a voodoo banshee =( [08:33] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [08:45] <[raphael]> clifford: I just burned the image to cd this morning, but couldn't boot it: "Disk Error" while loading vmlinuz, my md5sum of the iso image is: c4289e1ab779a815b239219efeffe96c ... is this correct? [10:26] <clifford> [raphael]: yes, that's the same md5sum [10:26] <clifford> but the error message more looks like an I/O error. maybe the cdrom or the cd is broken? [10:26] <[raphael]> uhm... duh, yes, might be [10:26] <clifford> btw, you are lucky that you can reach me. [10:27] <[raphael]> clifford: I guess it to be the CD then, the drive works with other cds [10:27] <[raphael]> good luck then :) [10:27] <[raphael]> clifford: are you not available today? [10:27] <clifford> I'm just in the office because I forgott my AC/DC adapter for my laptop here. [10:27] <blindcoder> heh [10:27] <[raphael]> oh... yeah, no ac/dc adapter is too bad for the weekend [10:28] <[raphael]> clifford: well, thanks for confirming the md5 sum, I'll burn the cd again (when I get home - in probably 8 hours) [10:28] <blindcoder> clifford: why not just connect the dynamo of a bicycle to your laptop ;) [10:30] <clifford> https://www.lrlug.org/ [10:30] <clifford> .. what is that?!?!?! [10:31] <daja77> hi clifford [10:31] <blindcoder> what the... [10:31] <clifford> hi daja77 [10:32] <blindcoder> clifford: we have our own LUG! HOORAY! \o/ [10:32] Brian_L (n=brian@pcp09188441pcs.towson01.md.comcast.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:36] <blindcoder> although I think that I've heard "little rock" earlier [10:37] <daja77> clifford: you pinged me? [10:37] <clifford> that was long time ago.. ;-) [10:38] <daja77> yes :) [10:38] <clifford> how long are you going to be online now? [10:38] Action: clifford is further improving the SPL optimizer.. [10:38] <daja77> max. 20min [10:40] Action: daja77 is going to meet a nuclear physicist @ dresden today [10:40] <blindcoder> I guess I should get the Rock presentation done this weekend [10:40] <blindcoder> or I'll never do it [10:40] <blindcoder> daja77: we got the slot for sure, btw.. [10:40] <blindcoder> don'n know if you got the mail, too [10:41] <clifford> daja77: I just wanted to know if the KDE shared files conflict is the same you did talk about some days ago and if you found out something about it. [10:43] <daja77> yes it was the qt33_pluginrc thing, i haven't looked into it, because I needed the build to be finished to install my laptop ... [10:43] <clifford> ok. thanks anyways. [10:44] <clifford> did you read my SPL update mail and the other one about the optimizer yesterday? [10:45] <daja77> yes :) [10:45] <daja77> does it also means the scripts run faster? [10:45] <clifford> depends on the scripts. ;-) [10:45] <daja77> *gg* [10:46] <clifford> if you do something like "myvar[1][2][3][4]++;" in an inner loop - yes. [10:46] <blindcoder> btw, loop-aes will vanish from ROCK maybe as soon as next week :D [10:47] <clifford> but most scripts spend most of their time in the c libraries they are based on. ;-) [10:47] <daja77> who does that? ^^ [10:47] <daja77> blindcoder: why? [10:47] <clifford> just an example. most of the constructs optimized by the new optimizer are static array indices. [10:48] <blindcoder> daja77: because it's really only used in lvp which I switch to dmcrypt [10:48] <blindcoder> daja77: and after that I have no more interest in maintaining loop-aes [10:48] <clifford> instead on 1+3*n (where n is the dimension of the data structure) operations its just one operation afterwards. [10:48] <daja77> clifford: reminds me of some fortran optimizations I read about [10:59] <blindcoder> clifford: I'm heavily borrowing from your last slides. Hope you don't mind :) [11:05] <clifford> blindcoder: no problem. [11:07] <daja77> so three of us will be there [11:08] <blindcoder> you, cutio and me? [11:08] <blindcoder> hannes wants to be there, too [11:08] <daja77> 4 [11:09] <daja77> ^^ [11:09] <blindcoder> I'll probably already arrive friday evening and stay until sunday evening [11:09] <daja77> where do you stay? [11:10] <blindcoder> hannes will stay with a friend and I'll invite mysely there :) [11:11] <blindcoder> hehe, paniq is great music to work to :) [11:11] <daja77> ah ok, so you could see the weihe of the frauenkirche on sunday :P [11:13] <blindcoder> sounds interesting, even though I'm not into religious stuff [11:13] <blindcoder> will there be food? [11:13] <daja77> me neither [11:13] <daja77> no idera [11:13] <blindcoder> well, go get some intelligence on it! :) [11:13] <daja77> #have you seen my dresden pics? [11:14] <blindcoder> no [11:16] <daja77> https://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~jahre/dresden-2005-08-26/ [11:16] <blindcoder> *clickety* [11:16] <blindcoder> a oachkatzal! [11:17] <daja77> *gg* [11:17] <daja77> 2 of them but you can't see that on the pics [11:18] <[raphael]> daja77: what software are you using for the picture gallery? [11:19] <daja77> iimage a shell script ^^ [11:19] <[raphael]> oh, great, so it generates a html page out of a directory with pictures? or how does it work? [11:20] <blindcoder> https://shellscripts.org/project/gallery [11:20] <daja77> incl. creating thumbnails an d stuff [11:20] <blindcoder> *whistles* [11:21] <blindcoder> not that one, but another one in bash and imagemagick :) [11:22] <[raphael]> oh, what a great project owner ;) [11:23] <blindcoder> well, as of now all projects on shellscripts.org are mine *shrug* [11:23] <[raphael]> copyright 2005 - 2107, oh what fun [11:23] <blindcoder> :) [11:23] <daja77> 70 years after his death ... [11:24] <[raphael]> hehe [11:24] <blindcoder> I could also do 2005 - `date +%Y` [11:24] <blindcoder> but that wastes precious PIDs :) [11:28] <daja77> <- off now [11:28] <[raphael]> bye daja77 [11:30] <[raphael]> blindcoder: does it work in other shells as well (or even sh)? [11:32] <blindcoder> [raphael]: `date +%Y`? [11:34] <[raphael]> blindcoder: heh, no, the gallery [11:35] <blindcoder> hmm [11:35] <blindcoder> good question [11:35] <blindcoder> in other shells, hardly [11:35] <blindcoder> perl code doesn't run with python, too [11:36] <blindcoder> no, it won't [11:36] <blindcoder> it makes use of some bash-exclusive stuff [11:37] <[raphael]> ok, thx [11:40] <blindcoder> but that should matter only if you don't have bash installed, which is quite uncommon [11:41] <[raphael]> blindcoder: I just checked my server, bash is installed [11:41] <[raphael]> (but I don't usually don't use it) [11:43] <blindcoder> that's another story :) [11:44] <[raphael]> blindcoder: the other problem is that I have a very low upload limit / month, so I hardly can put pictures up on the server (it's my computer at home). But still I'm thinking of an image gallery at some time [11:44] <blindcoder> [raphael]: I have images > 1MB here which thumbnails are only 60 kB in size [11:45] <blindcoder> the downscaled 640x480 images which are displayed by default when you click on a thumbnail is around 177kB then [11:45] <owl> moin [11:45] <[raphael]> ah... that's good, so you don't get the full picture right away [11:46] <[raphael]> saves a lot of bandwidth.. [11:46] <[raphael]> moin owl [11:47] <blindcoder> moin owl [11:47] <owl> hi [raphael] , blindcoder [11:47] <blindcoder> [raphael]: you can still get it, but not by default [11:47] <blindcoder> [raphael]: try https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/ for an example [11:48] <blindcoder> running on my DSL line :) [11:49] <[raphael]> yeah, nice [11:49] <[raphael]> blindcoder: what upload speed do you have? [11:49] <blindcoder> 384 kBit/sec [11:50] <[raphael]> I have 128 kbit/s, but I think that would still be ok [11:50] <[raphael]> your's is pretty fast [11:53] <blindcoder> Could get more up/down but I don't need it, really [11:53] <owl> "angeber" [11:53] <esden> moin [11:54] <owl> hi esden [11:54] <esden> moin owl [11:55] <owl> breakfast ;) [11:57] <esden> blindcoder: where is the rss feed for your blog? [11:58] <blindcoder> esden: /rss.php [11:58] <blindcoder> esden: firefox should display a rss icon in the lower left [11:58] <esden> ahere it is [11:59] <blindcoder> ehm [11:59] <esden> maan ... I am blind [11:59] <blindcoder> lower right [11:59] <esden> *grr* [11:59] <esden> sorry [11:59] <blindcoder> :) [11:59] <esden> I was on the wrong site [11:59] <esden> at first ;) [11:59] <blindcoder> o_O [11:59] <blindcoder> whatever :) [11:59] <blindcoder> I'm drafting ane ntry, but I need to get the ROCK presentation done first [12:00] <esden> o_O? [12:01] <blindcoder> esden: I'll hold a ROCK presentation at Linux Info Tage Dresdes [12:01] <blindcoder> Dresden [12:07] <esden> blindcoder: the link to your blog on your main site (https://www.crash-override.net) is missing a 't' at the end of the url ;) [12:07] <esden> ok ... then have fun in dresden ;) [12:09] <blindcoder> oops [12:10] <blindcoder> will be fixed in 49 minutes [12:10] <esden> woohaaaa .... [12:11] <blindcoder> that's when the typo3 pages will be wget'ed into static html pages again :) [12:11] <esden> I thing I killed your blog system :) https://blog.crash-override.net/index.php?id=18 <- look at my comment ;) [12:11] <blindcoder> o_O [12:12] <esden> I wrote <a href="https://www.esden.net">Piotr Esden-Tempski</a> as my name ;) [12:12] <blindcoder> as usual you forgot the </a> [12:12] <esden> because there is no field where I can add my site name [12:12] <esden> nooo ... not really [12:13] <blindcoder> hmm [12:13] <blindcoder> oh [12:13] <blindcoder> the name field is limited to 50 characters in the DB but not in the html form [12:13] <esden> ROFL!!! [12:13] <esden> I love good software!!! [12:14] <blindcoder> yeah [12:14] <blindcoder> me, too [12:14] <blindcoder> I just have to find one yet :) [12:14] <esden> tex <- that is good software [12:15] <blindcoder> fixed [12:15] <blindcoder> both in the DB (increased to 100 chars) and added a maxlength=100 attribute [12:15] <esden> good [12:16] <esden> one thing that also is missing is that when you add a comment with new lines you do not need to add <br /> at the end of every line to have breaks [12:16] <SMP_> size-limited fields in a database are so '80s ... [12:17] <blindcoder> SMP_: I'm from '81, so it's fine :) [12:17] <esden> it should be passed through that strange new line to break function of php [12:17] <blindcoder> true [12:17] <blindcoder> nl2br [12:18] <esden> may be ... dunno [12:18] Nick change: SMP_ -> SMP [12:18] <blindcoder> done [12:19] <blindcoder> design decisions... hmm... I started coding and this is the result :) [12:19] <esden> SMP: when I see current web software then flat files is the current state of the art ;) [12:19] Action: blindcoder looks at shellscripts.org and its backend [12:19] Action: blindcoder nods heavily [12:20] Action: esden sees blindcoder's head popp of his neck and roll across the room [12:20] <esden> you must not nod so heavily [12:20] Action: blindcoder puts his head back on his shoulders [12:20] <blindcoder> sorry >_< [12:23] <blindcoder> WAH, someone keeps drinking my coffee! [12:23] <blindcoder> I've got myself 4 cups now and everytime I want to take a sip the cup is empty! [12:24] <blindcoder> ARGH, who scheduled blindcoder/libgli _after_ blindcoder/lvp [12:50] <blindcoder> 30 pages [12:50] <blindcoder> should be enough [12:51] <blindcoder> still lacking a layout :( [13:02] <blindcoder> okay, time to cook these mussels [13:22] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54994CD3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:24] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [14:16] <blindcoder> re [14:19] Action: esden waiting for his pizza [14:20] <blindcoder> these mussels were yummy ^^ [14:21] <blindcoder> although I don't know where this guy has his "Pfefferoni" and "Chilis" from [14:21] <blindcoder> I used less than a third the amount he suggested [14:21] <blindcoder> and I _still_ couldn't say if it was hot (temperature) or hot (spicy) [14:26] <esden> hehe ... probably they were lying around a long time ... the ones the guy used [14:26] <esden> they loose their spice with time [14:27] <esden> PIZZA!!! [14:29] <blindcoder> hehe [14:29] <blindcoder> well, my chilis are a year old now, dried [14:29] <blindcoder> and they are still hot enough to burn holes into anything but glass [14:29] <blindcoder> just as this hungarian pepperoni [14:29] <blindcoder> three years old [14:30] <blindcoder> I extracted the seeds from it and planted them. that's where I got my current pepperonis from [14:30] <blindcoder> out of curiosity I tasted a tiny bit of that three year old thing [14:30] <blindcoder> needless to say, I needed a LOT of water until my eyes stopped watering [14:33] <esden> rofl [14:33] <esden> well done blindy ;) [14:33] <esden> one should try such things in meal not separate [14:34] <blindcoder> so true >_< [14:34] <clifford> so. the SPL optimizer is finished. [14:34] <clifford> .. for now .. ;-) [14:35] <clifford> svn.clifford.at/spl/trunk/examples/example57.spl [14:35] <clifford> .. this is entirely optimized away to a 4-bytes program. [14:41] <blindcoder> nice :) [14:58] <owl> re. [15:00] <blindcoder> wb owl [15:01] <clifford> did anyone record my radio show (nerds on air) yesterday? [15:01] <owl> thx :) [15:02] <clifford> the cronjob failed. and so I have no record of it.. [15:07] <blindcoder> no, but I can ask on the local LUG since it went over the mailing list there [15:09] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:11] Brian_L (n=brian@pcp09188441pcs.towson01.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:26] Action: esden iTunes: Daft Punk - Television Rules the Nation @ 128kbps [Time: 0.16//4:47] [15:29] <blindcoder> heh [15:30] Action: esden iTunes: Daft Punk - Television Rules the Nation @ 128kbps [Time: 0.16//4:47] [15:31] <clifford> I will get the MP3 within the next days from the radio station archive. [15:31] <clifford> *phew* [15:39] <esden> oha ... earthquakes? [15:39] <esden> good to know [15:39] <esden> I love rss [15:40] <blindcoder> clifford: :) [15:41] <owl> hi esden [15:41] <blindcoder> esden: earthquake? where? [15:41] <blindcoder> should I seek shelter? [15:45] <esden> no not in europe ;) [15:46] <blindcoder> pff [15:46] <blindcoder> why should I care then :) [15:48] <esden> dunno [15:49] <blindcoder> unable to open initial console [15:50] <blindcoder> argh! [15:50] <esden> https://www.micom.net/oops/HeloTowJob.wmv [15:50] <blindcoder> argh *bangs head on table [15:50] <blindcoder> I read that as blowjob >_< [15:51] <blindcoder> ouch [15:53] <blindcoder> 10 xbox-360 prototypes stolen [15:53] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA [15:53] <mnemoc> to much pr0n [15:54] <blindcoder> mnemoc: or lack thereof [15:54] <mnemoc> *G* [16:06] <clifford> me doesn't like C++. [16:06] Action: clifford doesn't like C++. [16:06] <clifford> oops. ;-) [16:07] <blindcoder> what have you messed up now? :) [16:07] <clifford> nothing. I'm trying to fix qt. [16:09] <clifford> argwl! [16:09] <clifford> the most important member of the class QSettings is called 'd'. [16:09] <clifford> try to grep for that! [16:10] <mnemoc> that's not C++ fault :) [16:10] <esden> that is not C++ fault [16:10] <mnemoc> *g* [16:10] <esden> *GG* [16:11] <clifford> no. but I C it would eighter be passed as parameter - then I would know the type - or be a global variable - then noone would name it 'd'. [16:11] <clifford> but now I can manually search the whole class derivation path for this crappy thing! [16:11] <esden> clifford: never say something like "noone" you will always find some idiot that will do it [16:12] <clifford> yes. [16:12] <clifford> but the good thing about global vairables is: you just need to find anyother idiot the the problem will solve itself. [16:12] <esden> noone calls non method local variables d or x ... or anything close to that ... but still you found someone that did it [16:34] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-053-222.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:34] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-050-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:35] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [17:05] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:06] <[raphael]> clifford: it's indeed the DVD drive that is screwed up, the CD is fine! [17:07] <[raphael]> I never thought that a Toshiba device would break down [17:08] <[raphael]> but... the kernel is screwed up, too [17:08] <blindcoder> given enough thrust even pigs can fly :) [17:08] <[raphael]> booting on another computer works, but the kernel gets a nice panic [17:09] <clifford> aha. it didn't do that here. [17:09] <clifford> what is the panic message? [17:09] <[raphael]> clifford: well, it starts somewhere at "Ooops: 0000 [#1]" [17:09] <[raphael]> PREEMPT [17:10] <clifford> what cpu is that? [17:10] <[raphael]> clifford: it might be the hardware, it's really old [17:10] <blindcoder> YAY! [17:10] <[raphael]> and AMD K6-II with 500 MHz [17:10] <blindcoder> LVP 0.5 is finished :D [17:10] <[raphael]> ASUS P5A-B [17:11] <blindcoder> sweet, I have one of those lying around [17:11] <blindcoder> I throw it across the room regularly :) [17:11] <[raphael]> blindcoder: heh, they are sometimes useful for something [17:11] <[raphael]> clifford: it panics right after hdd detection [17:12] <[raphael]> (which is a Samsung with 40 GB) [17:12] <[raphael]> blindcoder: the whole case is quite "zusammengeflickt" [17:12] <clifford> hmm.. the build is unoptimized. so it shouldn't be an overoptimization bug. [17:12] <clifford> other linux kernels boot fine on the device? [17:13] <[raphael]> clifford: well, it had a rock linux on it one or two years ago, that worked [17:13] <[raphael]> it didn't have linux for a while, so ... I don't even know if it ever ran a 2.6 kernel [17:13] <clifford> have you been using 2.6.something linux kernels on the machine before installin rock now? [17:13] <clifford> ok. [17:13] <[raphael]> clifford: by the way: IT DOES NOT MATTER [17:14] <[raphael]> since that's not the machine I want to setup ;) [17:14] <clifford> ok.ok.ok. ;-) [17:14] <[raphael]> but the DVD drive works there, hehe [17:14] <[raphael]> uhm... screwed up [17:15] <clifford> looks like you are having a hard time until you get far enought to see the error which is expected with that ISO image. ;-) [17:15] <[raphael]> hehe, indeed ;) [17:15] <[raphael]> clifford: but... back in the old days when I started to use ROCK Linux that really made me know the system and learn a lot [17:15] <[raphael]> so... I'm used to that [17:16] <clifford> thats good. [17:16] <[raphael]> (the system += linux in general) [17:16] <clifford> may I ask you a Qt question? [17:16] <[raphael]> clifford: go ahead [17:16] <clifford> is there any api to create a class tree directly from the *.ui files? [17:17] <clifford> (like libglade can do with the glade .xml files) [17:17] Action: [raphael] has a second linux on the machine raphael wants to set up and will use this one to mine -i -R the other partition [17:17] <[raphael]> clifford: what do you exactly mean by a class tree (I don't know glade well enough) [17:18] <clifford> s/class/object/ [17:18] <[raphael]> ah, ok [17:18] <[raphael]> AFAIK ... no [17:18] Action: clifford is doing to much SPL. in SPL classes and object are the same thing. [17:18] <[raphael]> I see :) [17:18] <clifford> hmm.. that is bad. [17:19] <clifford> do you know any other c/c++ widget toolkit which can do that? [17:19] <[raphael]> well, the thing is, you would need to "compile" the thing and dynamically load it into your app before you can instantiate it [17:19] <[raphael]> which... is even possible [17:20] <clifford> I had a look at libglade+gtk but gtk/glib is too ugly imo. [17:20] <[raphael]> but that's definitely not as easy to do as in ... say... Java or SPL [17:20] <[raphael]> clifford: there might be existing solutions to that [17:20] <clifford> no. i don't want to hackthat on my own but would like to use an existing API. [17:20] <[raphael]> since, practically you only need to compile it into a .so and dlopen it [17:21] <clifford> well - that would be easy. but it is to hackish. [17:21] <[raphael]> although... you need some kind of factory as well, since you can't directly instantiate unknown classes [17:21] <[raphael]> clifford: it is [17:22] <[raphael]> if I come across sth I'll let you know [17:23] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005100817223724925 [17:23] <[raphael]> clifford: what do you exactly need? [17:23] <clifford> I am looking for gui bindings for SPL. [17:23] <[raphael]> I guess it's not about the .ui file itself, is it? [17:24] <clifford> And for that I need something which doesn't use a codegenerator. [17:24] <[raphael]> I see [17:25] <clifford> libglade looked pretty good on the first glimpse [17:26] <[raphael]> clifford: I think KDE has something... [17:26] <[raphael]> I'm checking that right now [17:26] <clifford> but the wanna-be glib objects are pretty ugly and gtk doesn't free it's memory, which is imo just broken. [17:26] <clifford> thanks. [17:30] <[raphael]> clifford: why do you need to compile your own .ui files just for the bindings? Do you want to provide complex widgets out of the box? [17:36] <clifford> I want the SPL programmer to be able to use the qtdesigner to create their dialogs, etc. [17:38] <[raphael]> clifford: if I get fascinated enough, I might even write a small piece of software that does exactly this [17:39] <clifford> doesn't have kde a little VB clone? [17:39] Action: clifford doesn't remember the name of the package. [17:39] <[raphael]> clifford: there is lot's of stuff, I think there wasen even some VB like announcement on the dot or sth like that [17:42] <clifford> oh! the packages.db is 7.0 MB big. that's why rocket update is so slow.. [17:42] <[raphael]> https://dot.kde.org/970242383/ [17:42] <[raphael]> clifford: oh... sorry, that is about 5 years old, hehe ;) [17:43] <blindcoder> kbasic.de looks weird in 1400x1050 :) [17:43] Action: [raphael] continues to install ROCK [17:45] <[raphael]> oh... the project still exists, hehe [17:45] <[raphael]> maybe its useful, ... [17:47] <[raphael]> clifford: are there any conflicting packages on the image, or can I just mine -i * ?? [17:47] <[raphael]> like, are linux24-headers and linux26-headers conflicting? [17:48] <clifford> it is save to simply install avarything. [17:49] <[raphael]> yeh, thx, just checked with mine -l to see the file list [17:50] <[raphael]> suse should include "mine" by default, makes it easier to install all your wonderful packages [17:57] <clifford> "kregexpeditor" ... this is pervert! does anyone really use this thing? [17:57] <blindcoder> what is it? [17:58] <blindcoder> something like txt2regex? [17:59] <blindcoder> sweet [18:01] <SMP> clifford: gambas [18:02] <blindcoder> bah, it can't even parse the regex I use for parsing iptables -vnxL output :P [18:04] <blindcoder> okay it, it just can't handle perls .*? [18:05] <clifford> SMP: thx! [18:08] <clifford> [raphael]: https://developer.kde.org/language-bindings/smoke/index.html .. can you tell me anything about that? [18:08] <[raphael]> clifford: I know it exists, but never used it... I can take a quick look (will get back to you in a while) [18:09] <clifford> great. [18:15] <clifford> https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebindings/qtruby/README?rev=419273&view=markup [18:15] <clifford> .. they can load .ui files! [18:18] <esden> waaaaaaahhh how cool finally safari knows what the middle button has to do! namely opening a link in a new tab! [18:18] <[raphael]> clifford: I actually want to get into qtruby [18:18] <clifford> https://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qformbuilder.html [18:18] <clifford> here we go. [18:18] <[raphael]> oh, nice... damn, I'm lacking behind technology [18:19] <[raphael]> (we haven't ported the g system to qt 4 yet, so that's why I don't know much about it) [18:19] <clifford> (QWidgetFactory in Qt3) [18:19] <[raphael]> oh, yeah, I'm really lacking behind technology [18:19] <clifford> https://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qwidgetfactory.html [18:19] <clifford> so - how is this smoke thing? [18:19] <[raphael]> but thanks for pointing that out to me [18:21] <blindcoder> esden: sweet :D [18:21] <th> clifford: yea and i tested that already... crafted a small ui in designer and loaded it in qtruby... [18:23] <clifford> cool. I want to do that with qtspl soon. *g* [18:24] <[raphael]> clifford: I honestly don't know much about smoke either, but from the little introduction on developer.kde.org it sounds really usable for your purpose [18:24] <th> i forgot what smoke was... what was it? [18:24] <clifford> which introduction? I'm trying to get a clue from reading the heard file right now.. [18:25] <clifford> https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebindings/smoke/smoke.h?rev=416098&view=markup [18:25] <clifford> ;-) [18:25] <th> btw - does qtruby finally work on win32/ [18:26] <clifford> [raphael]: where is that introduction? or do you mean the wtwo paragraphs thing that refers to the subversion repository? [18:27] <[raphael]> clifford: https://developer.kde.org/language-bindings/smoke/index.html [18:28] <clifford> ok. so there is no real introduction to how to use the lib. [18:29] <[raphael]> clifford: right... uh, the iso has NO lilo on it, that hurts [18:29] <[raphael]> (for some reason grub doesn't work on that machine) [18:32] <clifford> ok. i'm going home now. [18:33] <clifford> I'll have a look at this SMOKE library when I am back from hamburg (linuxkongress) [18:34] <[raphael]> clifford: enjoy [18:34] <blindcoder> HOORAY! I'm single again! [18:38] <clifford> [raphael]: well, I still don't have my slides ready. [18:39] <[raphael]> clifford: oh, I know that situation ;) [18:39] <clifford> And I spent most of my time today with improving the optimizer of the SPL compiler: [18:39] <[raphael]> clifford: do you remember that day in Vienna, where we met? I finished my slides THERE [18:39] <clifford> svn.clifford.at/spl/trunk/examples/example57.spl [18:39] <clifford> yes. but you can't compare that with linuxkongress. [18:40] <[raphael]> hah, there you go, SuSE is able to build packages in a chroot environment [18:40] <[raphael]> (chrooted into a rock installation) [18:41] <clifford> bye. [18:43] <[raphael]> clifford: bye [19:02] <[raphael]> setting up a rock from suse is really a bad idea [21:22] <esden> cool ... darpa grand chellenge running [21:22] <esden> that is exciting! [21:22] <blindcoder> hehe [21:22] <blindcoder> that driverless car racing? [21:22] <esden> blindcoder: ahh you are back? [21:23] <esden> yes the robot racing [21:23] <blindcoder> I've never been gone [21:23] Action: esden is all sweaty because of excitement [21:23] <blindcoder> o_O [21:23] <blindcoder> where do you watch it?{ [21:23] <esden> blindcoder: I thought you wanted to drink something? [21:24] <esden> https://www.grandchallenge.org/ <- there is a map with the current possitions of the cars [21:24] <esden> very up to date blog: https://www.tgdaily.com/2005/10/08/darpagrandchallenge2005/ [21:24] <blindcoder> you _do_ know how much booze I have at home? [21:24] <esden> ooook ... [21:24] <esden> no comment [21:24] <esden> I have no booze >_< [21:25] <esden> hehe ... stanford passed highlander [21:25] <esden> they had to pouse stanford several times so that it does not drive in the back of highlander [21:25] <blindcoder> wow [21:25] <blindcoder> heh [21:25] <blindcoder> sweet [21:26] <esden> the comments on slashdot are also usefull .. to get some information about the teams and what happened last year [21:27] <blindcoder> I don't really follow it, to be honest [21:36] <blindcoder> looks like they'll make it this year, no? [21:40] <esden> waahhhh amazing, bottlepass still ahead [21:40] <esden> blindcoder: who knows if they will manage to pass the bottlepass ... it is the most chellenging obstacle [21:40] <esden> the organisators say that their human drivers dislike driving through there [21:41] <blindcoder> eww [21:41] <blindcoder> well, I dislike driving through tunnels, too :P [21:41] <esden> a little mistake and you fall 100feet down a canyon wall [21:41] <blindcoder> ouch [21:41] <blindcoder> sounds like when I was in "kroatien" [21:42] <esden> ack [21:42] <blindcoder> a street about 1.5 times as broad (if at all!) as one lane on the autobahn [21:42] <blindcoder> and my seat ibiza AND a huge tourist bus had to drive there in opposite direction [21:42] <blindcoder> right: 90 degree upwarcd: SOLID ROCK [21:42] <blindcoder> left: 90 degree downward: nothing... [21:44] <esden> more and more vehicles are being disabled [21:44] <esden> blindcoder: you really had fun there ;) [21:44] <blindcoder> well, the top three are still there [21:44] <esden> yes [21:44] <blindcoder> where's this bottlesomethingorother? [21:44] <blindcoder> K? [21:45] <esden> but the two behind them got disabled [21:45] <esden> the fastest does not mean here the best ;) [21:45] <blindcoder> true [21:45] <esden> marked on the card with 'K' [21:45] <blindcoder> BEER BOTTLE PASS! [21:45] <blindcoder> CHEERS! [21:46] <esden> cheers ;) [21:46] <esden> I also want a beer! [21:46] <esden> >_< [21:46] <blindcoder> come here [21:46] <blindcoder> I've got enough for a few people [21:46] <esden> haha [21:46] <esden> scotty?... [21:46] <blindcoder> no, no scotch I'm afraid [21:46] <esden> *sigh* [21:47] Action: esden ate a pizza and still hungry >_< [21:47] <esden> that sux [21:47] <blindcoder> I'm still satiated from the mussles today [21:47] <blindcoder> well, and the two garlic breads [21:48] <esden> humm ... ok ... [21:48] <esden> I think about putting another pizza into the oven ... [21:48] <esden> but I take my time for that [21:48] <blindcoder> I don't even have pizza here [21:49] <owl> *eating chips* [21:49] <esden> ahh right I have chips! [21:49] <owl> *g* [21:49] <esden> thanks owl [21:50] <owl> de nada [21:51] <esden> "Axion Racing is disabled, the bot is in the dirt spinning its wheels." <- chains would be nice here ;) [21:51] <blindcoder> true [21:51] <blindcoder> axion is which one? [21:52] <blindcoder> ah, that one [21:52] <esden> it was the 5th one [21:52] <blindcoder> too bad, 65+ miles [21:52] <esden> yes they came far [21:52] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:03] <blindcoder> Hey, Mint! You call this a road? [22:03] <blindcoder> I didn't say it was a road. I said it was a route! [22:10] <esden> I really ask myself how it will be when all trucks on german highways are controlled by computers and not humans [22:10] <blindcoder> scary [22:11] <blindcoder> you know, I just don't trust computers :P [22:21] <blindcoder> yay, stanley is almost there, no? [22:23] <blindcoder> damn, I'm too drunk to type my passwordhs :( [22:29] <esden> hehe [22:29] <esden> stanlay is in the pass now [22:30] <esden> he seems to advance without problems [22:30] <blindcoder> nice [22:36] <esden> he is through the pass ... stanlay did it ;) [22:36] <esden> humm .. I found Kinderbons here [22:36] <esden> they taste old ... [22:36] <th> Teenbons then. [22:37] <esden> hehe [22:38] <owl> lol :) [22:39] <esden> humm ... /me eating teens ... YUMMY [22:39] <blindcoder> smells like teen spirit [22:40] <esden> ohh ... right I have it here somewhere [22:40] <esden> let's see [22:40] <esden> at least the song .. not the deodorant [22:41] <blindcoder> hehe [22:41] <esden> dadadadada [22:43] <esden> they should cast coverage of the race in tv [22:43] <esden> it is much better then most sports you see in tv [22:43] <blindcoder> hehe [22:43] <esden> like F1 or soccer [22:45] <esden> H1ghlander is also at the end of the pass [22:45] <esden> amazing! [22:45] <blindcoder> esden: seems like stanley will make it first :) [22:46] <esden> nothing can stop him now! [22:46] <esden> or nearly nothing ;) [22:46] <blindcoder> HERE I AM! [22:46] <blindcoder> ROCK YOU LIKE A HURRICANE!~ [22:46] <blindcoder> I wonder if that song is played on US radio these days [22:47] <esden> hehe ... dunno ... I do not hear US radio ;) [22:47] <blindcoder> well, they didn't play it's raining men after they lost their twin towers [22:47] <blindcoder> and here in germany they didn't play "die perfekte welle" after the tsunami last christmas [22:51] <esden> weeehooo he is home! [22:51] <blindcoder> YAY [22:51] <esden> that rules!!! [22:51] <esden> amazing! [22:51] <blindcoder> HOORAY FOR BOOBIES! [22:51] <blindcoder> ehm STANLEY! [22:51] <esden> erm .... hello zoidberg ;) [22:52] <blindcoder> ;) [22:52] <esden> since when have you overtaken blindcoder's body? [22:53] <blindcoder> since I learned that he eats regularly [22:53] <blindcoder> I just had some problems with these strange finger things he has instead of high quality crab claws [22:53] <blindcoder> but that was easily fixed with the aid of a high quality knife [22:54] <blindcoder> which I - as a doctor - always carry around with me [22:54] <blindcoder> see this coat? It makes me a doctor! [22:56] <esden> hehe [22:56] <esden> well done zoidberg ... you see I pay you attention ;) [22:58] <esden> rape meeeee rape meeeeeee my friiiend .... rape meeeee rape meeeee agaiiiiiiin [22:58] <esden> *sing* [22:59] Action: blindcoder rapes esden [23:04] <owl> .oO( those guys are on drugs ) [23:04] <blindcoder> well, I know _I_ am [23:04] <blindcoder> ethanol _is_ a drug after all [23:05] <owl> *g* [23:05] <blindcoder> anyway, bedtime [23:05] <blindcoder> good night [23:06] <owl> gn8 blindcoder [00:00] --- Sun Oct 9 2005