[00:32] <daja77> re
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[01:00] <esden> huhu daja77 
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[08:06] <blindcoder> moin
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[12:09] <[raphael]> hi all
[12:10] <[raphael]> just FYI, my Epson Perfection 3170 PHOTO scanner works now under Crystal ROCK
[12:11] <[raphael]> that frees up the second partition that had SuSE on it (which was the only distribution that got my scanner to work so far)
[12:11] <daja77> :D
[12:11] Action: [raphael] is very glad that the scanner works on a "sane" Linux distribution at last
[12:16] <blindcoder> nice :0
[12:16] <blindcoder> how much work was it to get it working?
[12:17] <[raphael]> blindcoder: well, the last attempt started yesterday evening
[12:17] <[raphael]> the bad thing is that YOU don't include my network driver by default
[12:18] <[raphael]> so I have to recompile the kernel every time I install that particular machine (doesn't happen that often anyway, but with this scanner now I had to do it two or three times)
[12:18] <[raphael]> by the way: the 2.6 kernel panics on boot
[12:18] <[raphael]> so I had to install a 2.4 kernel, did the customization this morning
[12:18] <[raphael]> installed base/rpm and two other packages
[12:19] <[raphael]> installed the iscan (= the driver) rpm
[12:19] <blindcoder> yeah, the kernel autoconfig is a bit broken...
[12:19] <[raphael]> made the scanner module recognize vendor/product id's
[12:19] <[raphael]> so that sane-find-scanner finds the scanner
[12:19] <blindcoder> heh, gonna send a patch upstream? :)
[12:20] <[raphael]> and copied (!!) libstdc++.so.5 from my suse partition (iscan rpm was linked against that)
[12:20] <[raphael]> current ROCK only includes libstdc++.so.6 - which doesn't work
[12:20] <[raphael]> blindcoder: a patch for... ?
[12:20] <blindcoder> well, you could install gcc33 to get libstdc++.so.5
[12:20] <[raphael]> blindcoder: I can send you a patch for including my network card by default :)
[12:20] <blindcoder> but when you then recompile mplayer, it breaks
[12:20] <blindcoder> [raphael]: for the scanner product id/vendor id
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[12:21] <[raphael]> blindcoder: ah, yes,... uhm... hopefully. I can give you the id's right away, that would be faster
[12:21] <blindcoder> kernel patch?
[12:22] <[raphael]> blindcoder: yep, will send you one
[12:22] <blindcoder> just send it directly to lkml ;0
[12:22] <blindcoder> :)
[12:22] <[raphael]> hehe
[12:23] <[raphael]> do they recognize the mail (I'm not registered there)
[12:23] <[raphael]> subscribed that is
[12:23] <[raphael]> for linux 2.4 the usb id's are: vendor=0x4b8 product=0x116
[12:24] <[raphael]> that's for the scanner module
[12:24] <[raphael]> linux 2.6 does not have a scanner module anymore
[12:24] <blindcoder> look into MAINTAINERS who's responsible for that module and send the patch to him
[12:24] <[raphael]> blindcoder: ok, will do that
[12:25] <[raphael]> yeah, iscan works now, that's awesome
[12:25] <[raphael]> even on ROCK Linux
[12:26] <blindcoder> I take it iscan is not free (as in FSF) software?
[12:29] <[raphael]> blindcoder: no, it has a binary-only part
[12:30] <[raphael]> blindcoder: although they provide sourcecode for most of the stuff as well
[12:30] <[raphael]> blindcoder: if it was completely free I wouldn't have bothered with Linux
[12:30] <[raphael]> I would have set it up on my BSD right away
[12:32] <[raphael]> blindcoder: I just have my HOWTO ready - for setting up iscan on ROCK
[12:41] <blindcoder> [raphael]: doc.rocklinux.org/wiki :)
[12:41] <blindcoder> [raphael]: create a howto section and be the first to fill it with content ;)
[12:41] <blindcoder> or send it over and I'll insert it for you
[12:41] <[raphael]> blindcoder: that's a very good idea, I was already wondering where to put it
[12:45] <[raphael]> blindcoder: do you want the HOWTOs to be a separate chapter?
[12:48] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:48] <blindcoder> let's see
[12:48] <daja77> howto replace suse with rock ...
[12:49] <blindcoder> [raphael]: I added a HowTo section
[12:49] <blindcoder> [raphael]: please place yours below that
[12:50] <[raphael]> daja77: that would be my second howto then :)
[12:50] <blindcoder> daja77: mkfs :)
[12:50] <daja77> blindcoder: cool that works for windows too
[12:50] <[raphael]> but in fact I USED SuSE to install ROCK since I wasn't able to boot the CD - although I could just mount it and access all the pkgs
[12:50] <[raphael]> daja77: so... that would be how to replace any operating system with ROCIK
[12:51] <[raphael]> ROCK
[12:51] <blindcoder> daja77: I'm done creating the slides for the talk. want to have a look and tell me where I messed up?
[12:52] <daja77> yes ...
[12:52] <blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/ROCK_praesentation_LITDD.sxi
[12:52] <daja77> sxi?
[12:52] <blindcoder> I copied a lot of stuff from cliffords last slides and basically just translated them :)
[12:52] <blindcoder> OOo Impress
[12:54] <daja77> do not use a white background that might hurt
[12:54] <[raphael]> hmmm... blindcoder: am I able/allowed to create a new page? How?
[12:55] <blindcoder> [raphael]: create a WikiWord (like: HowToMakeScannerFooWork), save the page and click on the ? after that WikiWord
[12:55] <blindcoder> daja77: suggestion?
[12:56] <daja77> perhaps a light blue or sth#
[12:57] <blindcoder> baby blue :)
[12:57] <daja77> :)
[12:57] <daja77> have to go now, I'll tell you about other things asap
[12:58] <blindcoder> though I don't think white is bad
[12:58] <blindcoder> the wall will be hopefully white anyway
[13:31] <esden> hi ho everyone!!!
[13:31] <blindcoder> hi ho esden!one!
[13:32] <esden> hehe :)
[13:32] <esden> my room looks so empty now ... after I cleaned it up
[13:32] <esden> :(
[13:32] <esden> it is not so cosy anymore ;)
[13:33] <blindcoder> well, I'm sure it will again be in a few days
[13:38] <[raphael]> blindcoder: howto ready, feel free to change/improve the design if you think it's crippled
[13:38] <blindcoder> [raphael]: will do after lunch :)
[13:38] <[raphael]> Mahlzeit
[13:38] <blindcoder> I'm frying some "Reiberdatschi"
[13:39] <blindcoder> had mussels yesterday so I need some "normal" meal today
[13:39] <[raphael]> oh... I don't know that one ;)
[13:39] <blindcoder> even though mussels are damn easy to make
[13:39] <blindcoder> "Kartoffelpuffer"
[13:39] <[raphael]> ah, hehe
[13:40] <[raphael]> I'll be away now, too, so bye everybody!
[13:40] <blindcoder> okay, bye
[13:40] <blindcoder> have a nice day
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[13:44] <blindcoder> is recognizing "Nutbush City Limits" by the first 2 seconds a bad thing?
[14:03] <esden> humm ... my Practica excused itself
[14:03] <esden> I really have to find someone who repairs and maintains old photo cameras
[14:03] <blindcoder> damaged?
[14:03] <esden> this blocking and the problems with the light meter are going on my nerves
[14:04] <esden> no not damaged ... it works but from time to time the shutter gets stuck ... and the light mater too ... 
[14:04] <esden> light meter
[14:04] <blindcoder> I see
[14:05] <blindcoder> inconvenient
[14:05] <esden> the camera is from the 60tees ... so the grease is old or nearly unexistent
[14:05] <esden> yes ... but the images the praktica takes are _really_ nice
[14:06] <esden> sharp like a katana and colors are stunning
[14:06] <blindcoder> now you're talking my language :)
[14:06] <esden> I also love the aparature opening of 2.8f ... I love to take pictures with small field of sharpness
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[14:07] <esden> hehe ... I scared owl off ;)
[14:07] <blindcoder> yeah, she obviously hates photos :)
[14:07] <esden> obviously
[15:18] <esden> humm ... I need a cardreader >_<
[15:21] <blindcoder> what for?
[15:27] <esden> I bought a 512mb card for my camera and it takes ages to download the images from the card using the camera usb1 interface.
[15:28] <blindcoder> eww
[15:28] <blindcoder> I feel with you
[15:33] <esden> humm ... #photogeeks seems to be a nice channel ... but it is a bit low traffic :/
[15:33] Action: esden still looking for a nice photography irc channel
[15:34] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:36] <esden> and also a good photography news site ... like slashdot
[15:39] <blindcoder> I'm sure there's something Out There(TM)
[15:42] <esden> sure ;)
[15:43] <daja77> if esden takes pics from nude girls there are a lot of sites with that interest in common ..
[15:45] <esden> daja77: no naked chicks here
[15:46] <blindcoder> esden: well, why not?
[15:46] <blindcoder> do snomething about it!
[15:47] <daja77> I even knew two cute ones from regensburg
[15:47] <esden> *cough*
[15:47] <blindcoder> esden: I've heard that chicks dig photographers ;)
[15:47] <blindcoder> oh, and send one or two my way :D
[15:48] <esden> tell them you have a good photographer that could make a act photo session for them ;)
[15:48] <daja77> huh? we should send chicks to you?
[15:48] <esden> daja77: the more the better ;)
[15:48] <daja77> ts
[15:49] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:49] <daja77> .oO (why waste them ...)
[15:49] Action: blindcoder ponders getting a camera
[15:49] Action: daja77 already got one
[15:49] <blindcoder> daja77: a good one :)
[15:49] <blindcoder> I expect a 2.5 k EUR "Lohnsteuerrueckzahlung"
[15:50] <esden> waaaahhhhhhh >_<
[15:50] <blindcoder> guess I could get some nice equipment with that :)
[15:50] <esden> blindcoder: I HATE YOU!
[15:50] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:50] <daja77> hehe
[15:50] <blindcoder> well, not that I have time or muse for photography
[15:50] Action: esden starting to cry badly
[15:50] <blindcoder> I'll have kendo training four times a week starting tomorrow
[15:50] <daja77> just concentrate on the chicks, forget about the camera
[15:51] <blindcoder> and sell the photos to finance the next cam :D
[15:51] <esden> and only to make me suffer you will buy yourself a 1.200Eur camera or so ;)
[15:51] <blindcoder> hardly
[15:51] <blindcoder> I don't really need/want a cam
[15:51] <blindcoder> besides, Matthias lends me his if I need one
[15:52] <blindcoder> he's got some nice Nikon equipment
[15:52] <esden> what nikon does he have?
[15:52] <blindcoder> no idea about the model
[15:52] <blindcoder> could tell you tomorrow
[15:52] <esden> :(
[15:52] <blindcoder> but it's heavy :)
[15:52] <esden> ahh good
[15:52] <esden> tell me!
[15:52] <esden> D100 or so ;)
[15:52] <blindcoder> will do :)
[15:52] <esden> or an F6 or so if it is film
[15:53] <esden> wow that are only twoletters beside the film
[15:53] <esden> looks funny
[15:53] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:54] <blindcoder> daja77: I'll leave the background white since I think it's safe to assume that the wall will be white, too
[15:54] <daja77> it hurts the eye ...
[15:54] <blindcoder> even on white wall?
[15:55] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:55] <daja77> try it out
[15:58] <blindcoder> okay, gray 20%
[15:58] <blindcoder> 15%
[15:58] <blindcoder> yeah, 15%
[16:06] <esden> Ok obligatory daily image uploaded
[16:07] <esden> daja77: you know my photoblog already? (I know I am asking that everyone ;) )
[16:07] <blindcoder> *clickety*
[16:07] <daja77> no
[16:07] <daja77> and I have to go now
[16:08] <esden> :(
[16:08] <esden> http://www.esden.net/photoblog
[16:08] <blindcoder> your dad has lost hair since I last met him
[16:08] <esden> nope ... he looks like that since years if you ask me
[16:08] <blindcoder> well
[16:08] <blindcoder> I don't see him as regularly as you do :)
[16:09] <esden> hehe ;)
[16:09] <blindcoder> but the photo looks cool
[16:09] <esden> thanks ... you may rate it at the bottom of the page
[16:09] <esden> ;)
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[16:20] <esden> lol
[16:21] <blindcoder> o_O
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[16:39] <esden> re blindy
[16:41] <blindcoder> re
[16:43] <blindcoder> hm
[16:43] <blindcoder> 5 hours until the last build is finished
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[17:27] <blindcoder> HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[17:28] <blindcoder> I need to reprint the posters for LIT DD
[17:28] <esden> o_O
[17:29] <esden> my ears!
[17:29] <blindcoder> they're written on with biros and one is halfway "eingerissen"
[17:33] <blindcoder> and they were fine when I sent them to him
[17:34] <esden> kill him ... kill him! ;)
[17:34] <blindcoder> I will... in DD
[17:49] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHAHA
[17:49] <blindcoder> I love reading job descriptions
[17:50] <blindcoder> here they're searching for a 1st and 2nd level tech support and require the applicant to be a member of management ("Mitglied der Geschäftsleitung oder Geschäftsführer")
[17:53] <cutio> "schlipsis"
[17:55] <blindcoder> Schlipstraeger, Kostuemierte, Keyluser
[17:55] <blindcoder> whatever :)
[17:56] <cutio> they're all the same.. brr
[17:57] <blindcoder> wow, finally, after three pages a 20 entries, the first sane job
[17:57] <blindcoder> "Junges, dynamischen Team"
[17:58] <blindcoder> ie: we haven't really started yet, but we're hiring and trying to get a contract with someone
[17:59] <blindcoder> jepp, domain registered 2 weeks ago
[18:01] <cutio> you're looking for a new job?
[18:01] <blindcoder> nah, just for fun
[18:01] <cutio> heisejobs?
[18:01] <blindcoder> my current contract has just been enhanced by another year
[18:01] <blindcoder> so my job is safe untir 30.09.2[[6
[18:01] <blindcoder> 2006
[18:01] <blindcoder> nah, monster
[18:02] <cutio> i'll have to get my self a ba(berufsakademie)-training until then
[18:03] <blindcoder> why's that?
[18:04] <cutio> cus i dont want to be unemployed *g*
[18:04] <cutio> leaving school then, 13years of pain and horror
[18:04] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:05] <blindcoder> true
[18:13] <esden> humm ... this year by year stuff sux ... you need a contract runnig for more years ... to have a stable situation ... I would go mad with something like that ...
[18:15] <blindcoder> well, I'm stable with my money-giver
[18:15] <blindcoder> it's his responsibility to get work for me
[18:17] <blindcoder> but in the long run I want to have enough money to be able to stop working anyway :)
[18:17] <blindcoder> not stop working, but being able to stop worrying about work
[18:23] <esden> hehe ... nice plan!
[18:29] <esden> waaaahhhhhhh OWL!!!
[18:29] Action: esden jumping around and waving with the hands
[18:30] <blindcoder> o_O
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[18:30] <esden> atal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 4679 bytes) in /var/www/sites/general/plog-1.0.2-beta/class/template/smarty/Smarty_Compiler.class.php on line 340 
[18:31] <esden> I get this message when trying to post a comment to her blog!
[18:31] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[18:31] <blindcoder> well, that's 8MB
[18:31] <blindcoder> should be plenty enough for a simple blog
[18:31] <esden> yes I know
[18:31] <esden> and for a simple comment too!
[18:32] <blindcoder> true 
[18:32] Action: blindcoder uploading LVP 0.5.0 source and precompiled versions
[18:34] <blindcoder> finally no more kernel patching necessary :)
[18:40] <blindcoder> NARF
[18:40] <blindcoder> I hate assholes
[18:40] <blindcoder> "I know you should not do it, but I want to do it anyway. Tell me how to log in to KDE 3.4 as root."
[18:40] <blindcoder> copied verbatim
[18:46] <esden> lol
[18:47] <blindcoder> my response: say "please"
[18:48] <th> it's easy
[18:48] <th> vi /etc/passwd and change the "0" to something > 0
[18:48] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[18:50] <blindcoder> http://www.odeo.com/foo
[18:50] <blindcoder> also MUAHAHAHAHA
[18:50] <cutio> th: thats evil
[18:54] <blindcoder> clifford: I hate you
[18:55] <blindcoder> the day i release a new lvp version you make an apply storm, making my fresh release totally outdated!
[19:40] <daja77> hehe
[20:02] <esden> re daja77!
[20:02] <daja77> re esden 
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[21:40] <blindcoder> hmm
[21:40] <blindcoder> why oh why is mplayer scheduled BEFORE ogg-vorbis?
[21:42] <mnemoc> to not let you hear .ogg files :)
[21:54] <blindcoder> okay, uploading the last 25MB
[22:13] <blindcoder> okay
[22:13] <blindcoder> good night
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