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[00:43] Dark-Star (i=Darkstar@p549CE2C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:44] <Dark-Star> Hi. Anyone know how to bootstrap Rock Linux on an UltraSPARC? Is there an ISO available somewhere? [00:48] Action: stf^rocklinux takes a look... [00:53] <stf^rocklinux> I can't find an ISO at iso.rocklinux.de but you can cross-compile a minimal build-bootstrap distribution for UltraSPARC e.g. on an x86 architecture. [00:53] <stf^rocklinux> With this distribution you should be able to compile everything else natively. [00:56] <stf^rocklinux> Dark-Star: replace "x86" with "any architecture Linux/GNU runs on" ... [00:57] <Dark-Star> do I need RockLinux on x86 to cross-compile it? I read somewhere on the docs that bootstrapping from other distros might have some problems... [00:58] <stf^rocklinux> The requirements are rather low, bash >= 2.05, mktemp, ... [00:59] <stf^rocklinux> basic Linux/GNU programs, and not too outdated, that's all [00:59] <Dark-Star> ah ok, then I'll try it tomorrow [00:59] <Dark-Star> thanks [01:05] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-204-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:05] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-199-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:07] <stf^rocklinux> - Architecture, CPU and Optimization ? ? ? ?<sparc> Generic SPARC Workstations ? ? [01:07] <stf^rocklinux> ? ?<64> Build 64 bit user-space SPARC (v9 - UltraSPARC) (EXPERIMENTA? ? [01:07] <stf^rocklinux> ? ?<v9> Optimised for UltraSPARC ? ? [01:07] <stf^rocklinux> ? ?<*> This is a cross-build between architectures [01:07] <stf^rocklinux> oops [01:08] <stf^rocklinux> well, that's how the top of the ./scripts/Config menu should look like when cross-compiling for UltraSPARC. [01:24] Dark-Star (i=Darkstar@p549CE2C3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "sleep" [01:43] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-099-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:52] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-100-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:31] <daja77> re [05:57] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:05] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:53] <blindcoder> moin [09:54] <owl> hi blindcoder [09:54] <owl> moin all [09:57] <blindcoder> moin owl [09:59] <blindcoder> owl: gonna buy a new laptop? [09:59] <blindcoder> test [09:59] <blindcoder> hmm [09:59] <blindcoder> 12 seconds lag [10:06] <owl> blindcoder: well. yeah, i will buy a ibm thinkpad... ;) [10:06] <owl> but not yet sure where and when ... inside-computer has to call me because of the price of a service-pack [10:07] <owl> https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/product_info.php/notebooks/ibm/r52reihe/ibm_thinkpad_r52_alviso_un364ge <- my "whish-laptop" [10:07] <blindcoder> owl: by a powerbook :) [10:07] <owl> blindcoder: nah, i need a ix86er-arch... [10:08] <blindcoder> sounds nice [10:08] <owl> yeah :) [10:09] <owl> especially the option "3 year service-pack at door" [10:10] <blindcoder> where? [10:10] <blindcoder> I only see 1 year bring-in [10:10] <owl> blindcoder: "zubehoer" - "garantieerweiterung: 3 jahre vor ort" [10:10] <owl> (bottom of page) [10:11] <blindcoder> 329 EUR [10:11] <owl> yeah. this is why i am waiting for the inside-computer-call... ;) [10:12] <blindcoder> I see [10:12] <owl> i saw (but this was for the r50-series-notebook=) a package with 276 EUR... [10:14] <blindcoder> expensive enough [10:14] <blindcoder> especially since my Acer is now almost three years old and the only thing that failed was the harddisk when the laptop fell to the floor once [10:15] <owl> yes. but - i've got the jamba-etc. -> enough money spent... (with a worse laptop - and with less garantuee etc.) [10:15] <blindcoder> I haven't spent a cent on this stuff :P [10:16] <owl> O_O my bf has a acer, too... grafik-chip: defect, keyboard: defect. laptop-apge: about 1,5 years [10:16] <blindcoder> you're all doing something wrong :P [10:17] <owl> blindcoder: /me spent... and it was good. buut now i don't want all the stress with manufactures, sellers and co. -> 3 years at door-service ;) [10:17] <owl> blindcoder: yeah, buying cheap notebooks [10:17] <blindcoder> probably :) [10:17] <owl> and: acer has not that good "ruf"... [10:18] <blindcoder> hmm [10:18] <blindcoder> If I had to buy a new laptop now it'd definately be an acer [10:18] <owl> i often heard "1,5 years or 2 years old " - and after that everything went bad :) [10:18] <owl> O_O one of those "backsteine" -> wxga-something? ;) [10:19] <blindcoder> wxga? [10:19] <blindcoder> Acer Travelmate 662LCi [10:19] <blindcoder> works like a charm [10:19] <owl> dunno this NB [10:19] <blindcoder> my biggest complaint is that after three years the battery is down to 75% of its original capacity [10:20] <owl> oerks. [10:20] <blindcoder> which is hardly a complaint at all [10:20] <owl> hmm. it is :) [10:22] <blindcoder> hardly [10:25] <owl> O_O [10:28] <blindcoder> losing 25% after three years is acceptable [10:28] <blindcoder> so it's now down from ~4h to ~3h runtime [10:30] <owl> hmm. [11:07] <blindcoder> esden: ping [11:07] <esden> blindcoder: pong [11:08] <blindcoder> esden: hid [11:08] <blindcoder> hi [11:09] <blindcoder> esden: I've made a ton of speed improvements to dragon [11:09] <blindcoder> esden: the webfrontend now renders in fractions of seconds instead of up to a minute :D [11:09] <esden> blindcoder: hehe well done [11:10] <blindcoder> esden: actually, I've "only" made a "cache" table which congregates the data by hour [11:10] <blindcoder> esden: and created an index on the timestamp [11:11] <esden> simmilar to what I have done for bingo [11:11] <esden> but monthly [11:11] <blindcoder> yeah :) [11:12] <blindcoder> uncached: 568,000 entries [11:12] <blindcoder> cached : 38,000 entries [11:12] Action: esden still missing a graph for the month [11:12] <esden> ;) [11:13] <blindcoder> :P [11:13] <blindcoder> no use making a graph if you can have lunch while waiting for it [11:13] <esden> sure [11:15] <blindcoder> I'm really afraid of the database size though [11:15] <blindcoder> it's running for nine days now [11:15] <blindcoder> and has half a million entries... [11:16] <esden> postgres should have no problem with that [11:16] <blindcoder> neither has mysql [11:16] <blindcoder> and I don't know anything about postgre [11:17] <blindcoder> not that I know much about mysql :) [11:17] <esden> blindcoder: try to learn something :P [11:17] <blindcoder> esden: I learned whacking someone over the head this week :P [11:17] <blindcoder> esden: at kendo, at least :) [11:18] Action: esden hiding and going [11:18] <blindcoder> hehehehehe [11:18] <blindcoder> RUN [11:18] Action: esden has a lot to do today [11:18] <esden> cu [11:18] <blindcoder> okay [11:18] <blindcoder> have fun [12:07] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997039.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:13] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:14] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:51] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.101) joined #rocklinux. [12:51] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.96) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:55] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [14:20] youngcoder (n=codemast@248M14.oasis.mediatti.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:18] <esden> bopp [16:19] <daja77> O_o [16:20] <blindcoder> re esden [16:20] <blindcoder> esden: I've added the graphs :) [16:20] <blindcoder> esden: have a look [16:39] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-133-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:39] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-044-032.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:39] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [16:42] <esden> ahhh very nice blindcoder [16:43] <esden> but is it possible to make a bargraph or linegraph like in bingo traffic or other traffic systems? [16:43] <esden> and it is pretty fast [16:46] <blindcoder> esden: sure it is possible [16:47] <blindcoder> yeah it is fast. and all the speedup is done in MySQL :) [16:47] <blindcoder> esden: could you have a look at the /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.9-rock/ config [16:48] <esden> config? why? [16:48] <blindcoder> esden: just to make sure :) [16:48] <esden> urgh ... you think I will see a mistake if there is one? ... [16:48] <esden> but I can try [16:49] <blindcoder> esden: checking the network card would be alright [16:49] <blindcoder> you know which is needed [16:49] <blindcoder> I will add a start script that checks for network existance and if there is none will restore the old /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot :) [16:51] <esden> blindcoder: you do not need that script [16:51] <blindcoder> no? [16:51] <esden> you can reboot to the rescue system if it does not work [16:51] <esden> and restore the old config [16:51] <blindcoder> esden: yes, but how do I shut pallas down? [16:51] <esden> erm ... yes right [16:51] <blindcoder> :) [16:54] <esden> I remove the Xircom cardbus support ;) [16:54] <blindcoder> hmm [16:54] <blindcoder> I have already compiled that kernel [16:55] <esden> ahh ok [16:55] <blindcoder> it is ready to be booted :) [16:55] <esden> ok it seems to be oook [16:55] <esden> if you are ready to reboot tell me [16:55] <blindcoder> okay [16:56] <esden> and make sure your script does not reboot in loop [16:56] <esden> take your time for it [16:58] <blindcoder> oh [16:58] <blindcoder> loop [16:58] <blindcoder> checked :) [17:00] <blindcoder> okay, guess I'm set [17:00] <esden> ooook [17:00] <esden> give me 5 mins to close everything [17:00] <blindcoder> sure [17:02] <esden> oook ... [17:02] <esden> only irssi missing [17:02] <blindcoder> can you log onto irc from elsewhere? [17:02] <esden> humm ... I can try [17:02] <esden> one moment [17:04] esdentem (n=esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [17:04] <blindcoder> shutdown -h now [17:04] <esdentem> ok here [17:04] <blindcoder> ehm, -r :) [17:04] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:04] <esdentem> ok do it! [17:04] <esdentem> but do reboot [17:05] <esdentem> not shutdown!!!!!! [17:05] <esdentem> waaahhhhh [17:05] <th> reboot was -h, hmm? [17:05] <blindcoder> heheeh :) [17:05] <blindcoder> nah [17:05] <blindcoder> shutdown -r now [17:05] <th> try -h first ;) [17:05] <blindcoder> :P [17:05] <esdentem> th :P [17:05] <th> might work as well ;) [17:06] <th> hehe [17:06] <blindcoder> root@th:/# rc network stop [17:06] <th> blindcoder: guess my right machine name first... [17:06] <blindcoder> too lazp [17:06] <blindcoder> y [17:07] <blindcoder> blindcoder@pallas:~$ uname -r [17:07] <blindcoder> 2.6.11.9-rock [17:07] <blindcoder> YAY [17:07] <esdentem> th: blindy is only stopping your human communication modules ;) [17:07] <th> hmm [17:07] <th> that's evil [17:08] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:08] <esden> bopp [17:09] <blindcoder> :) [17:10] esdentem (n=esdentem@apollo.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "leaving" [17:12] Action: esden eager to see the statistics for pallas ;) [17:12] <blindcoder> same here :) [17:12] Action: blindcoder packing up dragon-0.2 [17:13] <esden> humm ... tunneling does not work yet [17:13] <blindcoder> without the mysql root password this time [17:13] <blindcoder> root@pallas:~# /usr/local/sbin/enable_masquerading2 [17:13] <blindcoder> esden: should work now [17:14] <esden> ok works now [17:14] <esden> I also needed to do: [17:14] <esden> echo -n "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [17:14] <esden> and [17:15] <esden> echo -n "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/ppp0/forwarding [17:15] <blindcoder> ah [17:15] <esden> it should be added to start scripts too [17:15] <blindcoder> make it so :) [17:15] <esden> where? [17:16] <esden> test [17:16] <blindcoder> well [17:16] <blindcoder> I'd say /etc/rc.d/init.d :) [17:17] <esden> not network? [17:18] <blindcoder> hmm [17:18] <blindcoder> probably, yes [17:20] <esden> humm ... it should be possible to add it somehow to rocknet? [17:21] <esden> but I do not know how [17:22] <th> i always thought that rocknet is a myths [17:22] <blindcoder> th: no, it exists [17:22] <esden> humm ... the server here seems to use it [17:22] <blindcoder> /etc/network/rocknet [17:27] <blindcoder> esden: dragon is running :) [17:27] <esden> where? [17:27] <blindcoder> in my screen [17:27] <blindcoder> on pallas [17:34] <blindcoder> esden: the data is cached hourly [17:35] <esden> humm [17:36] <esden> blindcodeeeeeer .... [17:36] <esden> when all traffic is combined to an app like sshd ... then you will not see who produced the traffic [17:36] <esden> for example all my tunnel traffic will be shown as sshd and not pppd [17:36] <esden> somehow [17:38] <blindcoder> I will see who [17:38] <blindcoder> but sadly not what [17:39] <fake> hi [17:40] <esden> hi fake [17:40] <blindcoder> moin fake [17:40] Action: fake testing kde 3.4.3 [17:40] <blindcoder> it lives! [17:40] <fake> it stinks! its ugly! it must be fake! [17:40] <fake> ;-) [17:40] <blindcoder> that's what _you_ said [17:41] Action: fake proud of his manly smell [17:41] <esden> *sniff* ... humm I do not feel any ugly smell [17:41] <fake> esden: you need a smell-over-ip stack, you moron [17:42] <esden> ohh ... yes right .... damn ... I knew I forgot something [17:42] <esden> wait I look for a mac os x driver for that [17:42] <fake> cheapest way: smell your old socks you should have washed 3 weeks ago [17:42] <blindcoder> hmm [17:42] <fake> should be a pretty close hit ;) [17:42] <blindcoder> I washed them today [17:42] <fake> blindcoder: w h y ? [17:42] <esden> "Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefahr 87.900 fur smell over ip mac os x" [17:43] <fake> *rofl* [17:43] <blindcoder> fake: because I was out of socks [17:43] <blindcoder> both sides [17:43] <fake> just re-use the stiffy ones... [17:43] <fake> ;-)) [17:43] <blindcoder> d'oh [17:43] <blindcoder> next time [17:43] <esden> blindcoder: then you do not need boots anymore ;) [17:43] <blindcoder> YAY [17:44] <blindcoder> they are damn expensive anyway [17:44] <fake> blindcoder: don't worry, angie will fix it for you [17:44] <blindcoder> angie? [17:44] <fake> angie will fix it all. [17:44] <fake> she promised. [17:45] <blindcoder> ah, miss I-don't-need-preservatives-with-this-face [17:45] <fake> oh wait, the cdu has a history in not fulfilling promises... [17:45] <fake> and in doing illegal business [17:45] <blindcoder> I need it, I breath I need to show lifu [17:45] <fake> nah, too bad 23% of germany forgot that a few weeks ago [17:45] <blindcoder> I need it, I breath I need to show life [17:45] <blindcoder> I have it I got it I I don't have no life [17:46] <blindcoder> true [17:46] <fake> not that i care... muahaahah [17:46] <fake> beckstein will be head of the bavarian ministers [17:46] <fake> waaahaha [17:46] <fake> it's just too evil to be true [17:47] <esden> now I know why you are over there in vienna ... politic asylum ... or how it is called [17:47] <blindcoder> fake: O_O [17:47] <blindcoder> fake: good thing I'm in Berlin now [17:47] <fake> well, stoiber had a great loss in his election to ministerial president in bavaria - only 97% this time... [17:48] <fake> the king of bavaria will manager germanies money [17:48] <fake> *manage [17:48] <fake> i'll so laugh at you poor germans... [17:48] <blindcoder> fake: nope [17:48] <blindcoder> he's not minister of finance [17:48] <fake> not? [17:48] <fake> i thought he wanted to [17:48] <blindcoder> just of "wirtschaft" [17:48] <blindcoder> well [17:48] <blindcoder> I want a few million euros :) [17:48] <blindcoder> and I don't get them [17:49] <fake> thats because you don't say 'aeh' and 'sicherlich' all the time. [17:49] <fake> we can all learn a lot from our king... [17:50] <blindcoder> und als ich dachte dass ich dachte dachte ich dass ich dachte dass ich ans denken dachte. Haeh? Sachte. [17:50] <blindcoder> mUAHAHAHA [17:51] <blindcoder> damn, I need to get some alcohol [17:51] <blindcoder> this must be three times as funny if not sober [17:57] <daja77> hi fake! [18:01] Action: esden needs alcohol too [18:01] <esden> I need to calm down [18:04] <fake> hi daja77 ! [18:04] <daja77> nice to see you here [18:05] <fake> thanks ;) [18:08] <esden> humm another "get your degree without exams" spam ... I start thinking about it seriously ... exams suck @_@ [18:10] <blindcoder> Seht ich probierte die heilige Saeure. Hoert wie ich mich langsam ins Irrenhaus steure. [18:11] <blindcoder> Ich erzaehl euch vom Fraktal, dem Ding im Ding, hab vergessen wer ich bin. [18:13] <fake> holy acid? [18:15] <fake> never underestimate the power of a schnitzelsemmel... [18:16] Action: daja77 now has all his exams [18:18] <blindcoder> schnitzelsemmel? [18:18] <daja77> cu [18:19] <fake> bye daja77 ! [18:20] <fake> schn1tzl0rs3mm3l 0ph d34th! [18:22] <blindcoder> o_O [18:34] <esden> a schnitzelsemmel lying around for a week can surely be used as a chemical and biological wepon ... and mostly because it develops self conciousness ;) [18:40] <blindcoder> a self-conscious schnitzelsemmel [18:40] Action: blindcoder eats it in a hurry [18:40] <blindcoder> *burps* [18:40] <blindcoder> it might have taken over the world [18:40] <esden> humm ... poor schnitzelsemmel ... I have to grow another one now :( [18:40] <esden> it was my pet! :( [18:41] <esden> you mourderer! [18:41] <blindcoder> eww, that gives a -3 alignment penalty and loss of divine protection [18:41] <fake> <- schnitzelsemmel graveyard [18:43] <esden> blindcoder: muahaha! [18:43] Action: esden attacks blindcoder because he is weeker now! [18:43] <esden> ok ... I take a shower [18:44] <blindcoder> still got AC;-58 :P [18:44] <blindcoder> your wimpy totally corroded -2 orcish dagger can't hurt me :P [18:57] Action: esden taking out his sword of blindcoder decapitation +3, +20 on decapitating blindcoders [18:57] <blindcoder> o_O [18:57] <blindcoder> WAAAH [18:57] Action: blindcoder shoots esden with a piece of nerd foam [18:58] <esden> muahaha my alignmend is ubergeek ... this does not hurt me I am not a "schlipstraeger" you should use something else to 5t0pp0r m333!!! [18:59] Action: blindcoder uses a code generator, mindmap, deadline combo against esden [19:01] <fake> bingo! [19:01] <esden> waaahhhh ... I am melting!!! [19:01] Action: esden puts on a metal antihack helmet [19:01] <esden> woahh that one was good [19:01] <esden> but not good enough [19:01] Action: blindcoder converts esden into AJAX [19:02] <esden> zirrrp zirrrp segfault [19:02] Action: esden dropping core on blindcoder [19:02] <blindcoder> ewww [19:02] <esden> erm machine state [19:02] Action: esden dropping machine state on blindcoder [19:03] <esden> connecting javascript references to blindcoder [19:03] <blindcoder> sorry, I'm using w3m [19:03] <blindcoder> I have no javascript support :P [19:03] <fake> wtf? [19:03] Action: esden applying "kill it" dtd to blindcoder's XML config file [19:04] Action: blindcoder dies [19:04] <esden> I am the w1nn000r! [19:04] Action: blindcoder watches Full Metal Panic [19:05] Action: esden jumping around as an AJAX trying to look usefull [19:25] <cutio> blindcoder: tsr? [19:25] <blindcoder> cutio: yeah [19:25] <blindcoder> cutio: 12 [19:25] <blindcoder> second to last [19:26] <cutio> yeh, im downloading ep12 right now [19:26] <blindcoder> it freaks me out, to be true [19:26] <cutio> hehe, everything has to end;) [19:27] <blindcoder> not the second to last [19:27] <blindcoder> but the content [19:27] <cutio> ah [19:27] <blindcoder> not that the whole series didn't suck as it was already [19:27] <cutio> tell nothing [19:28] <blindcoder> sure :) [19:28] <cutio> btw there are some new promising animes coming this season [19:28] <cutio> black cat seems good [19:29] <blindcoder> no idea, I don't really keep up with it. just get recommended to one or another every now and then [19:29] <cutio> do you know monster? [19:30] <blindcoder> I've been told about it [19:30] <blindcoder> but couldn't dl it because their tracker always rejects me [19:30] <cutio> try changing your client [19:30] <cutio> azureus should do fine [19:31] <blindcoder> I'm content with btlaunchmanycurses [19:31] <cutio> yep i used to use it too [19:32] <cutio> its nice if you've a rootserver with enough traffic and screen installed [19:32] <blindcoder> I've got a machine on a DSL line running 24/7 [19:32] <blindcoder> that's plenty enough [19:35] <cutio> eta 3min then done [19:35] <blindcoder> hehe [19:36] <blindcoder> this is the first ep of tsr that actually ROCKS [19:36] <blindcoder> so be sure to watch it [19:36] <blindcoder> ASAP [19:37] <cutio> brb [19:51] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:07] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:21] <fake> daja77: pingeling [22:21] <blindcoder> o_O [22:21] <blindcoder> sounds like pinkeln [22:21] <blindcoder> so piss off :) [22:22] <blindcoder> fake: wtf happned to yoU? did they (whoever They may be) put something into your coffee? [22:22] <fake> y? [22:23] <blindcoder> I don't remember you this... funny [22:23] <fake> blindcoder: i have a great time atm [22:23] <blindcoder> I see [22:23] <blindcoder> what happened? [22:24] <fake> blindcoder: i get to hack symbian, which is quite... challenging, and i have sex ;-) [22:24] <blindcoder> bah [22:24] <blindcoder> ass [22:24] <blindcoder> I hate you [22:25] Action: blindcoder hasn't had sex since alexa [22:25] <cutio> lol [22:25] <fake> blindcoder: what about your i/o ? [22:25] <blindcoder> fake: dumped her a week ago [22:25] <fake> oh my... [22:26] <blindcoder> she said she didn't want contact for a few days, needs to concentrate on stuff, I shouldn't be angry, she'd call me [22:26] <fake> wtf, why is qt missing in the minimal-desktop pkgsel ? [22:26] <blindcoder> I told her that she needn't call me again _ever_ [22:26] <fake> blindcoder: why?? [22:26] <fake> blindcoder: what if she was just honest? [22:27] <blindcoder> fake: then there was the thing that she said: We'll split up again anyway [22:27] <blindcoder> and then: I'd never move in with a guy [22:27] <blindcoder> and: I still meet my ex, btw, but I won't introduce you [22:28] <blindcoder> besides: she'll probably have FIVE MINUTES for a phone call every few days, no? [22:29] <fake> not neccesarily? [22:29] <owl> hi fake [22:29] <blindcoder> o_O [22:29] <blindcoder> fake: -v please [22:30] <fake> blindcoder: maybe she just didn't like it that she _needed_ to have 5 minutes every day? [22:30] <fake> blindcoder: that can be quite a pressure for someone who has own hobbies & interests.. [22:30] <blindcoder> noones talking about every day [22:31] <fake> blindcoder: oh, right, sorry, i misread [22:31] <fake> blindcoder: the point is, the more you insist, the more pressure and 'obligation' builds up [22:31] <blindcoder> but if my gf lives 250 km away and I only meet her every other weekend, I'd really like to at least hear her voice every now and then [22:31] <fake> yeah, that sucks... [22:31] <fake> owl: ellas, owlita! [22:32] <blindcoder> wel [22:32] <blindcoder> weak-end relationship [22:32] <blindcoder> the break-up with uli and alexa was a lot harder for me [22:32] <fake> HXGlobalPtr::Get() : getting GlobalPTR from HXGlobalManager [22:33] <fake> ha! [22:33] <fake> got it! [22:33] <fake> that bloody bastard [22:33] <owl> well. then it's no problem for you anymore? [22:33] <blindcoder> hardly [22:33] <fake> blindcoder: but it prove that you aren't incompatible ;-) [22:33] <blindcoder> I'm much more interested in this bottle of rum that's running out of content [22:34] <blindcoder> fake: hoeh? [22:34] Action: blindcoder looks funny at fake [22:34] <blindcoder> who? [22:34] <blindcoder> a~re? da~re? [22:34] <owl> blindcoder: tsssssssssssssss. and this is "no problmes" [22:34] <fake> blindcoder: it proved that there are women for you out there. and some aren't even worth it ;-)) [22:35] <blindcoder> owl: the problem is that esden's got a date today and I don't :P [22:35] <fake> esden? with whom?? [22:35] <fake> *gg* [22:35] <blindcoder> fake: sure are. but for now, I'm going to concentrate on kendo [22:35] <blindcoder> fake: no idea, some dancemouse I've heard [22:35] <fake> how the fsck is it possible that there is NO qt in misc/pkgsel/* ?? [22:35] <fake> from IN ? [22:35] <owl> blindcoder: you shouldn't care about that sooo much ;) enjoy being free ;) [22:36] <blindcoder> fake: rosenheim I think [22:36] <fake> ah [22:36] <blindcoder> owl: bah, 4x kendo a week [22:36] <blindcoder> nuff said [22:36] <owl> blindcoder: nah, free as in "having nobody to take care about" ;) [22:37] <fake> now i totally lost it. [22:37] <blindcoder> owl: whatever [22:37] <fake> i finished a livecd build 3 days ago [22:37] <blindcoder> YAY! fake has gone insane! [22:37] <fake> i tested it, kde works, etc. [22:37] <fake> but there is NO qt in the pkgsel! [22:37] <fake> arrrr! [22:37] <fake> arrrrriba! [22:38] Action: fake calling clifford [22:38] <blindcoder> arrriba arriba andale andale [22:38] <owl> blindcoder: hmm. you should really see the positive site of being alone ;) [22:38] <owl> O_O [22:38] <fake> it was supposed to sound more pirate-ish [22:38] <fake> arrrrrrw! [22:38] <blindcoder> fake: talk like a pirate day is over, you know [22:39] <blindcoder> we arrrr closed [22:39] Action: blindcoder drinks to that [22:39] <blindcoder> cheers [22:39] <fake> aite, so ive eard [22:39] <owl> blindcoder: cheers. *taking the sprite-zero bottle* [22:41] <blindcoder> owl: sprite-zero? [22:41] <blindcoder> sounds like an empty bottle [22:41] <blindcoder> which would suck [22:41] <fake> arrr, found it, aye! [22:41] <owl> blindcoder: nah. this is the sprite -dring with 1 kal/100 ml [22:42] <owl> but: yes, the bottle was empty, too... but replaced now ;) [22:42] <blindcoder> owl: nad no taste to it? [22:42] <fake> i enable kde/* [22:42] <owl> blindcoder: pardon? [22:42] <fake> but qt is now in x11 [22:43] <blindcoder> owl: 1 kal/100ml sounds like tap water [22:43] <blindcoder> fake: for a long time I believe [22:43] <blindcoder> fake: where have you been? living under a rock? [22:43] <blindcoder> (pun not intended) [22:43] <owl> blindcoder: nah, not really... not as candy as sprite/normal, but better than pure water [22:43] <blindcoder> plain tap water is delicious [22:43] <blindcoder> just not in paderborn [22:44] <blindcoder> it tastes like blood there [22:44] <owl> blindcoder: nope. not really... i am hating the "no taste"-feeling... [22:44] <blindcoder> hmm [22:44] <owl> blindcoder: woerks. [22:44] <blindcoder> try taking tap water from berlin to ingolstadt [22:44] <blindcoder> and comparing them [22:45] <blindcoder> quite different tastes [22:45] <fake> blindcoder: working like mad [22:46] <blindcoder> I see [22:46] <blindcoder> well, currently I even get to actually work at work [22:46] <owl> blindcoder: O_O i normally know different tastes of water just, if there is a "entsalzungsanlage von meereswasser".... [22:46] <blindcoder> not write shellscripts, rock patches and play nethack [22:46] <blindcoder> but I can't say I'm overworked [22:46] <owl> *g* blindy [22:47] <blindcoder> owl: well, it tastes differently [22:47] <daja77> fake: ? [22:47] <blindcoder> but I wouldn't take paderborn water for brushing my teeth [22:47] <fake> daja77: nevermind [22:47] <owl> blindcoder: why? because of the dead rats taking their swimming-lessons there? [22:47] <daja77> k [22:48] <blindcoder> becaue it tastes like blood [22:48] <owl> blindcoder: yeah, i said "dead rats taking ..." ;) [22:48] <owl> btw, what tastes "great", is thos fscking "amoxicilin"... you even smell it... [22:49] <blindcoder> owl: nah, just too much iron in the water [22:49] <blindcoder> amo wdat? [22:49] <blindcoder> sounds like a love potion [22:49] <owl> blindcoder: what a pitty. i thougt your meat will be served free... [22:49] <owl> blindcoder: amoxicillin... antibiotika. [22:49] <blindcoder> ah [22:50] <owl> gnarf. i am hating it, if my dad takes everything from the desk and thwors it into my rucksack or bag [22:51] <blindcoder> backpack [22:51] <blindcoder> that's the joy of living alone! [22:51] <blindcoder> noone there to throw your stuff around [22:51] <blindcoder> and happily encrypting my dirty socks using my three-day-used underwear as key :D [22:51] <owl> blindcoder: nah, the joy of having a notebook... that would ber enough... then i gcould sit either in living room or in my office. [22:52] <owl> igitt. [22:52] Action: blindcoder hugs his acer [22:52] <owl> *lol* i will do so with my thinkpad, too,, after it's delivery [22:53] <blindcoder> can't you think for yourself? *hides* [22:53] <owl> blindcoder: nah. not really. what do you think i have all of my birds and hamsters and laptops for? ;) [22:54] <blindcoder> let's see [22:54] <blindcoder> the hampster for electricity [22:54] <blindcoder> the birds for distraction [22:54] <blindcoder> the laptops for contacting your lawyer :P [22:54] <blindcoder> admit it [22:54] <blindcoder> you have a crush on your lawyer! [22:55] <owl> bwahahahahahahahahahaha. nah, really not. he's a "bit" too old. [22:55] <owl> and: i just had one "date" with him... and no further will follow as it seems ;) [22:55] <blindcoder> well [22:55] <blindcoder> good luck [22:56] <owl> thx. well... at least i got the money back and so... [22:56] <blindcoder> true [22:56] <blindcoder> how much did the lawyer cost? [22:57] <owl> dunno. normally it will be paid by "amtsgericht" (because of the "beratungskostenbeihilfe"... -> one contact. not that much... (the last lawyer (i was there 2 or 3 times)) cost was 42 euro... so this time it should be less [22:57] <blindcoder> I see [22:57] <owl> (he wrote one letter ("wir bitten um stellungnahme bis soundso") - and one chat) [22:58] <blindcoder> I see [23:00] <owl> well... i will go and have a chat with my bed's "floehe". [23:00] <owl> gn8 ;) [23:00] <blindcoder> nighty [23:00] <fake> n8 [23:00] <fake> omg, 23 already... [23:01] <fake> i need longer days [23:01] <owl> hehe. better time-management *hides* [23:01] <owl> bye ;) [23:01] <fake> owl: less work ;) [23:01] <blindcoder> owl: 23 is for pussies [23:02] <blindcoder> there goes my last shot of rum [23:02] <blindcoder> cheers [23:02] <fake> cheerio.. [23:02] Action: fake up for more coffee [23:02] <blindcoder> damn [23:02] <blindcoder> another empty bottle of rum [23:03] <blindcoder> fsck these longitudes [23:03] <blindcoder> liquids evaporate too fast here [23:05] <blindcoder> oh fuck me [23:05] <blindcoder> I've just spilled half of the peanut crusts NEXT to the trash [23:07] <fake> i want this to work... [23:07] <blindcoder> no, you don't [23:08] <blindcoder> a) because it's mine :P [23:08] <blindcoder> b) sometimes you have to do Windows XP [23:08] <blindcoder> and c) sometimes there's NOTHING to do for week- [23:08] <blindcoder> s [23:08] <blindcoder> and you don't know whether you'll be fired next month or not [23:08] <blindcoder> it sucks [23:08] <blindcoder> but it pays the rent [23:08] <fake> i am working on windows xp atm [23:09] <blindcoder> yeah, I had to install it and put the license stickers on the side of the machines [23:09] <blindcoder> those poor machines... [23:10] <fake> sucky os [23:10] <blindcoder> true dat [23:10] <blindcoder> 6 page checklist [23:10] <blindcoder> 2.5 pages deal with making it usable [23:10] <blindcoder> deactivating "blending" effects for menus [23:11] <blindcoder> unfolding control panel in start menu [23:11] <blindcoder> this kind of stuff [23:11] <fake> i don't mind the eye candy, if the rest works stable [23:11] <blindcoder> I must deactivate it [23:12] <blindcoder> everything else isn't "freigegeben" [23:22] <fake> ha! morons! [23:22] <blindcoder> hm? [23:22] <blindcoder> YAY [23:22] <blindcoder> All-You-Can-Eat-BBQ [23:22] <fake> the helix client example top-level client code is wrong [23:23] <fake> it doesn't install a GlobalManager (sounds cool, huh) [23:23] <blindcoder> ehm [23:23] <blindcoder> so? [23:24] <fake> so the application 'cores' (or, in symbian terms, leaves) [23:24] <fake> not the best example [23:24] <blindcoder> leaves? [23:24] <blindcoder> so a shit and run, huh? [23:25] <fake> the strange term 'leave' is what throwing an exception means in nowadays c++ code [23:25] <blindcoder> o_O [23:25] <blindcoder> shit and run, alright [23:25] <fake> but back in the days where EPOC designed the roots of symbian, exceptions were not part of the C++ standard ;) [23:26] <fake> so they have their own exception handlind [23:26] <blindcoder> so frist it core dumps (shits) and then leaves (runs() [23:26] <fake> practically, it runs into a TRAP [23:26] <fake> ;-) [23:26] <blindcoder> that would suck :) [23:26] <blindcoder> being TRAPped on the run :) [23:27] <fake> if you don't trap it, it will run away with all the prescious embedded and highly constrained memory ;-)) [23:27] <blindcoder> yay, data theft! [23:27] <blindcoder> it stole my memory! [23:28] <blindcoder> with all my precious girls-contacts in it [23:28] <blindcoder> all zero of them [23:28] <fake> so, you lost null pointers [23:28] <blindcoder> eww [23:28] <blindcoder> null pointers [23:28] <blindcoder> got some of them in recent linux kernels [23:28] <blindcoder> and fisheye java crap^H^H^Hode of course [23:29] <blindcoder> hmm [23:29] <blindcoder> fisheye [23:29] <blindcoder> oops(); [23:29] <blindcoder> started it again [23:31] <blindcoder> well, counting together all the male contacts I have in berlin would still amount to zero :P [23:32] <fake> you should try to socialise, you know [23:32] <blindcoder> fuck if I tried [23:32] <blindcoder> none of the girls want to meet me again [23:32] <fake> ? [23:32] <fake> not neccesarily girls [23:32] <fake> just... people [23:32] <fake> you don't even need to like them [23:32] <fake> just know them [23:32] <blindcoder> well, where? [23:33] <blindcoder> it's not like ingolstadt's city center where there's one bar next to the other [23:33] <blindcoder> you gotta drive a few km between the good bars [23:33] <blindcoder> you even gotta drive between the bad ones [23:33] <fake> social contact means just doing stuff with other people, without outruleing the possibility to get to know the people you are with [23:33] <blindcoder> well, I know a good number of people from kend [23:33] <fake> like, kendo ;) [23:33] <daja77> blindcoder: what about your girlfriend? [23:33] <blindcoder> NAAAAAAAAAAAAARF [23:34] <blindcoder> daja77: I dumped her a week ago [23:34] <fake> jinx ;) [23:34] <blindcoder> true [23:34] <daja77> blindcoder: d'oh [23:34] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, maybe I'll hang out with Erik [23:34] <blindcoder> fake: he'll have his first kendo exam on wednesday [23:34] <blindcoder> fake: and also just recently moved to berlin [23:34] <daja77> fake as a socializer that rocks [23:35] <blindcoder> true :) [23:35] <fake> daja77: i have to say, just knowing people makes one feel at home much faster [23:35] Action: blindcoder feels transported into an alternate universe [23:35] <fake> in bonn, i knew nobody [23:35] <fake> i never felt at home [23:35] <blindcoder> I do know a few peolpe from BeLUG [23:35] <blindcoder> but it just has terrible meeting dates [23:36] <blindcoder> wednesday, 18:00 [23:36] <blindcoder> just when kendo training started [23:36] <blindcoder> and next week it will even start at 20:00 [23:39] <SMP> just why am I getting sick when for the first time in months I get into a good flow at coding again ... [23:39] <SMP> I code like shit when I'm sick [23:40] <daja77> :) [23:40] <fake> hi SMP ;) [23:40] <fake> whaddayagot? [23:41] <blindcoder> I usually just sleep when I'm sick [23:41] <SMP> guess it's just a flu [23:41] <fake> bird flu, muahaha [23:41] <SMP> nah [23:42] <fake> i tend to read when i'm sick [23:42] <fake> just until my head hurts, then i watch crappy tv shows ;) [23:43] <blindcoder> bah [23:43] <blindcoder> I have no TV [23:43] <esden> re hi all [23:43] <blindcoder> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee [23:43] <blindcoder> it's date-date-esden! [23:43] <fake> re hi esden, how was your date? [23:43] <blindcoder> so, since you're back [23:43] <esden> hehe ;) [23:43] <blindcoder> the date was crap I see [23:43] <esden> I am still alive yes [23:43] <fake> blindcoder: jinx, again [23:44] <esden> blindcoder: no it was marvelous [23:44] <blindcoder> esden: so why are you here? [23:44] <blindcoder> ooooh [23:44] <blindcoder> I see [23:44] <esden> the party was over [23:44] <blindcoder> agood boy is in bed at 20:00 so he's home at 23:00 [23:44] <esden> and I had adds ... [23:44] <esden> (people who wanted to go dancing too >_< ) [23:45] <esden> I had to drive them home [23:45] <blindcoder> poor guy [23:45] <blindcoder> have a drink [23:45] <esden> yes I am! [23:45] <blindcoder> ... I'd say but it's all gone [23:45] Action: esden writing an sms [23:45] Action: fake 's company still has ~10 bottles of vodka staffed ;) [23:45] Action: daja77 has still one over from the bday party [23:45] <esden> gimme one I need it ;) [23:46] <fake> and white wine, yummy [23:46] <blindcoder> hell, I still have wodka, brown rum, 80% rum, cherry liqueur, tequila, beer, coffee liqueur, absinth and and and [23:46] <fake> urks, absinth [23:47] <blindcoder> fsck [23:48] <fake> i need to replace mozilla on the livecd... [23:48] <blindcoder> I just emptied the whole content of my ashtray filled with peanut peels next to the trashcan [23:48] <fake> ashtray? [23:48] <fake> why do you have an ashtray? [23:48] <daja77> fake: just do it ;) [23:49] <blindcoder> fake: for visitors [23:49] <fake> daja77: i will [23:49] <blindcoder> fake: also for my shisha when I'm too lazy to dump the burnt tobacco somewhere else [23:51] <fake> hm, shisha, nice [23:51] <blindcoder> true :) [23:51] <blindcoder> the only stuff I can actually smoke [23:51] <esden> ahh shisha rules ... ;) [23:51] <esden> ok ... I have to go [23:51] <esden> cu guys [23:52] <esden> have a nice night ;) [23:52] <esden> you two *GG* [23:52] <esden> or three [23:52] <esden> or so [23:52] <blindcoder> nighty [23:52] <fake> n8 esden! [00:00] --- Sun Oct 16 2005