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[01:56] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-102-017.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:04] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-096-063.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:04] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [03:21] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:54] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:27] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.115) joined #rocklinux. [05:27] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.73) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:29] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [08:42] <blindcoder> moin [08:49] <cutio> already awake? [08:51] <blindcoder> already? I totally overslept [08:52] <cutio> woops - i know your prob, i oversleep kinda often too but hey, ive holidays now [08:53] <blindcoder> :P [08:53] <blindcoder> well, I really wanted to be at work sooner than 8 AM for a change :( [08:53] <blindcoder> haven't managed that in a month or so [08:54] <cutio> 8am.. hmm.. good luck [08:54] <cutio> normally ive to get up at 6am. [08:57] <cutio> ive aq good method to wake up: i start through sleep n; mplayer .. a metallica song (often blitzkrieg) that helps [08:58] <blindcoder> hehe [09:14] <esden> moin [09:15] <owl> moin [09:18] <blindcoder> moin esden, owl [09:43] <blindcoder> esden: which IP address do you use when connecting to pallas? [09:46] <esden> eeerm .... [09:46] <esden> you mean from which address my tunnel orginates from? [09:46] <esden> or the internal adresses of the tunnel?= [09:47] <blindcoder> esden: the address on pallas [09:47] <esden> my god ... my head is exploding [09:47] <esden> I stay at home today >_< [09:47] Action: blindcoder hands esden an aspirin [09:47] <esden> thanks blindcoder [10:04] <owl> hi blindcoder [10:04] <owl> esden: what did you do? O_o grippe? [10:10] <daja77> argh [10:11] <owl> hi daja77 :) [10:12] <daja77> hi [10:12] <blindcoder> moin daja77 [10:14] <daja77> the tar that should pack the build dirs is in sate D now >_< [10:15] <blindcoder> O_O [10:21] <blindcoder> urgsurgsurgs [10:23] <blindcoder> I have never seen so many ugly bugs in one place [10:24] <daja77> it is my place >_< [10:25] <blindcoder> daja77: no, I mean my code I'm fixing here [10:26] <daja77> ah ok :D [10:26] <blindcoder> iptables -A where it should be -D [10:26] <blindcoder> -p tcp where it should be -p udg [10:26] <blindcoder> -p tcp where it should be -p udp [10:27] <blindcoder> --sport 0 which will never match [10:27] <blindcoder> -s 0.0.0.0 which will never match [10:28] <blindcoder> :( [10:56] <esden> owl: ack [10:57] <esden> the address on pallas is 10.0.0.1 ... and my client has 10.0.0.2 [10:57] <blindcoder> esden: okay, thanks [10:57] <esden> @ blindcoder [10:57] <esden> blindcoder: de nada [10:58] <blindcoder> still busy reworking the packet counting code [10:58] <blindcoder> it's kinda fucked up [11:08] <esden> ROFL .... /me dying -> https://www.soufoaklin.com/tattooartist.html [11:09] <esden> how stupid one can be ... to let write something on ones skin ... not knowing how it should look like ... >_< [11:09] <daja77> LOL [11:09] <esden> that is pure stupidity [11:10] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [11:10] <esden> blindcoder: ack ... FULL ack :) [11:10] <blindcoder> that's why I'm never ever getting a tattoo :D [11:10] <esden> blindcoder: no ... that is not the reason ... you should _KNOW_ what you want [11:10] <blindcoder> true : [11:10] <blindcoder> true :) [11:11] <esden> KNOW =? KWON ? [11:11] <esden> looks very similar [11:11] <blindcoder> ? [11:12] <esden> your kendo stuff ... is made by which firm? [11:12] <esden> is there nothing made by KWON? [11:12] <blindcoder> my bag is made by KWON [11:12] <esden> see ... [11:12] <esden> that means ... that the name is derivated from KNOW [11:12] <blindcoder> as well as the armor [11:12] <esden> that means that the guys have a clue [11:13] <blindcoder> hakama, keiko-gi and shinai aren't [11:13] <esden> ahh ... ok ... [11:13] <esden> I had some of my belts made by KWON [11:13] <esden> but my gi was from some other manufacturer [11:15] <owl> esden: argh. shit. get on well soon [11:16] <esden> O_O .. what? ... do not scream so hard .. my head is aking [11:16] <owl> esden: because of your "grippe" ;) [11:16] <owl> do you have "husten", too? [11:16] <esden> ack ... very hard [11:17] <esden> and nose is dripping and so on [11:17] <owl> went to a doc already? if not, go to one... currently there's a virus going round with "lungenentzuendung", fever and so... [11:18] <owl> esden: sinupret forte :P if not you will have a sinnusitis too. :p [11:18] <esden> owl ... today I will move no milimeter out of house [11:19] <owl> esden: hrm. bad. do you have antibiotika at home? maybe amoxicilin - high dose...? [11:20] <esden> nope ... I believe in my inner powers ... I barly get ill ... once in 5 years hard ... (a little cold from time to time but that is "vernachlaessigbar") [11:20] <esden> I do not think that I get really ill ... tomorrow should be better [11:20] <esden> when I stay home today [11:21] <owl> hrm. not this... it takes some weeks to get to "normal state" again... as said: it's a virus-infect... almost everybody has it... /me already had it [11:23] <esden> hrm ... when it does not get better till tomorrow I will go to a doctor [11:23] <esden> for sure [11:23] <owl> yeah, good choice. and belive me: it won't get better :) [11:24] <owl> btw, you feel a bit dehydrated (especially the throat), too? [11:24] <esden> humm ... yesterday ... but today no more [11:25] <esden> but it was based on the hard cough I had [11:25] <owl> lucky man ;) [11:25] <owl> sure? ;) [11:25] <esden> sure! [11:25] <owl> i hope so for you ;) [11:27] <blindcoder> lunchtime [11:27] <owl> blindcoder: guten hunger [11:46] <owl> esden: https://gallery.karnaya.de/v/tiere/wellensittiche/merlin_und_gandalf/pic_0014.jpg.html this is my bird with original-color btw ;) [12:10] <blindcoder> thx [12:16] <owl> well. /me off for "reklamation" now. bbl [12:19] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA [12:19] <blindcoder> owl: your laptop? :D [13:10] <esden> very interesting ... Stanley Kubrick's life is very interesting [13:11] <esden> that man was not bored ;) [13:11] <esden> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick <- see here if you are interested [13:12] <esden> owl: very nice ... this blue is beautyfull! [13:23] <blindcoder> *click* [13:23] <blindcoder> /whois stanley_kubrick [13:25] <blindcoder> 504 Gateway Timeout [13:25] <blindcoder> :( [14:35] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-209-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-211-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:39] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* nah, the dockingstation [15:42] <blindcoder> owl: hehe [15:42] <blindcoder> owl: sorry, I just *had* to ask [15:45] <th> owl: docking for the thinkpad? [15:58] <owl> blindcoder: *kick* [15:58] <owl> th: nah. a docking-station connected via usb... gave it a trial... ;) [16:00] <th> sounds crappy [16:00] <owl> yeah ;) it was [16:00] <th> and i'd call it "port-replicator" [16:00] <owl> the ps/2-stuff worked... [16:00] <daja77> usb the sound of crap ... [16:00] <owl> hmmm more or less. yeah [16:00] <owl> at least i have my money back now ;) [16:26] <esden> re hi all [16:27] <blindcoder> moin esden [16:27] <blindcoder> and bbl [16:27] Action: esden slept veeery well ;) [16:44] <esden> ok ... I am hungry [17:41] <owl> re [17:54] <esden> moin owl [17:55] <owl> hi esden . how's your head? [17:59] <esden> owl: much beter ... [17:59] <owl> good :) [17:59] <esden> sleep helped a lot [18:00] Action: esden sipping aronia tea [18:00] <blindcoder> re [18:01] <esden> re blindcoder [18:01] <daja77> blindcoder: how long would it take to uploag 2.9gb to your place? [18:02] <blindcoder> daja77: around 2.5 hours [18:02] <daja77> ah ok [18:02] <blindcoder> so go ahead :) [18:02] <daja77> have tar'ed and bzipped the two builds [18:02] <blindcoder> esden: *hug* [18:02] <daja77> they are still at home [18:02] <blindcoder> okay [18:03] <daja77> but tomorrow it could happen, if I get them away from there somehow [18:03] <blindcoder> so no more fsckups with D state? [18:03] <daja77> well I it was d+ but I ignored it and just waited a few hours and it somehow worked [18:04] <blindcoder> heh [18:04] <blindcoder> damn I/O bottleneck [18:04] <daja77> ack [18:17] <owl> wb blindcoder [18:19] <blindcoder> thx [18:20] <blindcoder> esden: bah, I only had 8/10 right :( [18:41] <netrunner> hi [18:42] <blindcoder> moin netrunner [18:42] <blindcoder> how's russia? [18:42] <netrunner> big. [18:42] <netrunner> cold. [18:42] <blindcoder> hehe [19:13] <netrunner> oh, mysql 5.0 [19:15] demian (n=jvargas@adslnat-rai-cartago-132.ice.co.cr) joined #rocklinux. [19:15] <demian> hi [19:16] <owl> hi demian [19:16] <demian> miss. ;-) [19:17] <blindcoder> moin demian [19:17] <demian> anyone knows about a PPP server using a USB modem? [19:18] <owl> <- not [19:18] <demian> i am not 100% sure if i will have conflicts if using an USB modem instead of a serial one, teorically i think it should work, but the best knowledge is the empiric one. [19:20] <blindcoder> demian: if it's good, it uses a usb-to-serial protocol [19:20] <blindcoder> so then you can use /dev/tts/USB0 or something [19:22] <demian> usb-to-serial protocol is embedded in the modem or is it forced via software ? [19:25] <demian> like an emulation.. umm.. there are USB to serial adapters too. [19:27] <blindcoder> in the modem [19:27] <blindcoder> if it's in software, it's a proprietary protocol and must be avoided [19:31] <esden> blindcoder: lol ... you looooser ... go back to school! :) [19:31] <esden> *cough* *atshi* [19:32] <blindcoder> :P [19:32] <blindcoder> esden: I made that mistake with the translation [19:32] <blindcoder> esden: and then another which I'm not able to track down [19:33] <esden> perhups with the array of numbers [19:33] <esden> 2 is a meridian [19:33] <blindcoder> got that right [19:33] <blindcoder> good guess, but right :) [19:33] <esden> strange [19:33] <esden> that was one I had my problems with [19:33] <blindcoder> well, I'll have a look later [19:34] <esden> I was not 100% sure about that [19:34] <esden> blindcoder: kk [19:34] <blindcoder> I chose "whole number" since I thought "unsigned integer" :P [19:34] <esden> yes ... common mistake [19:36] Action: netrunner going home [19:36] <blindcoder> hehe [19:36] <blindcoder> sven is bashing emacs again :) [19:37] <esden> ohh ... where ... wanna read!!! [19:37] <esden> I love emacs bashing ;) [19:37] <blindcoder> email [19:37] <esden> :( [19:38] <esden> I hoped it is a blog [19:38] <blindcoder> I don't think he's got one [19:38] <esden> amazing how the "new" technology took me in ... blogs, podcasts, photoblogs ... amazing [19:39] <esden> I really ask myself what comes next [19:39] <blindcoder> I don't really want to know ;( [19:39] <esden> why? [19:40] <blindcoder> don't know [19:40] <blindcoder> I just don't want to know [19:40] <esden> ok ... I missed vlogs ... [19:40] <blindcoder> there's too many buzzwords flying around right now [19:40] <esden> but I watch only tiki bar [19:40] <blindcoder> AJAX and Ruby on Rails being the most recent ones I know [19:40] <esden> yuck ... ruby on rails sucks [19:41] <blindcoder> no idea [19:41] <blindcoder> I haven't had a look at it [19:41] <blindcoder> I prefer stuff that gets the job done :P [19:41] <esden> I am happy to know someone who developed something _much_ better [19:41] <esden> sadly it is commercial [19:41] <esden> but it will get released open source as soon as the next version comes out [19:41] <blindcoder> clifford && SPL? :) [19:41] <esden> that will kill ruby on rails [19:41] <esden> blindcoder: nope :P [19:42] <blindcoder> I don't know [19:42] <blindcoder> what's ruby on rails supposed to be good at? [19:42] <blindcoder> train simulation? [19:43] Action: blindcoder casting himself into his bed, brb [19:44] <esden> blindcoder: nope ... it is a database abstraction middleware ... [19:44] <blindcoder> back [19:44] <blindcoder> middleware... [19:44] <esden> intended for web development [19:44] <blindcoder> when did THAT term come up, anyway? [19:44] <blindcoder> and what's it supposed to be? [19:44] <blindcoder> I have a frontend and a backend [19:44] <blindcoder> where's the middleware supposed to be? [19:45] <esden> it is a library in most cases ... that sits between two things [19:45] <esden> in this case between database and web application [19:45] <blindcoder> so it's an abstraction layer? [19:45] <esden> can be an abstraction ... but it can also add some functionality [19:46] <blindcoder> then it's a toolkit [19:46] <esden> or improve the ease of use of an interface [19:46] <blindcoder> remind me to rant about buzzwords [19:46] <esden> no a toolkit does not have a defined backend [19:46] <esden> it does not need something beind it nesseserely [19:47] <esden> but a toolkit can in most cases also be defined as a middleware [19:47] <esden> but it is combined with gui workings in the most cases [19:47] <blindcoder> /dev/random is my backend! [19:47] <blindcoder> ROCK is a toolkit, but not a GUI working [19:48] <esden> and your soul is the middleware ... and your freaky face is the frontend ... yes right :D [19:48] <blindcoder> soul is the invention of religions. I'm not into religions :P [19:48] <esden> yes right ... but rock does not have a hard defined backend ... [19:48] <esden> and shell is not a backend it is an environment [19:48] <blindcoder> it does: .desc files :P [19:48] <esden> nope blindcoder ... :P [19:49] <blindcoder> sure [19:49] <blindcoder> so the backend is the filesystem [19:49] <esden> no ... it is the working environment [19:49] <esden> if rock would be made for managing files and directories ... then you may call it a middleware [19:49] <esden> a middleware for managing files and directories [19:49] <blindcoder> so what is the subversion fsfs backend? [19:50] <blindcoder> hmm [19:50] <demian> bdb ? [19:50] <blindcoder> so the Linux VFS would be that strange middleware thingie? [19:50] <blindcoder> demian: you don't want to use bdb [19:50] <blindcoder> noone does [19:50] <esden> blindcoder: yes you want to use bdb when you are serving svn over webdav ... [19:50] <demian> svn doesnt not uses dbd for their repositories ? [19:51] <blindcoder> esden: I serve svn over webdav with fsfs backend [19:51] <blindcoder> demian: hell, NO! It's too slow and too incompatible between versions [19:51] <esden> it is faster then fsfs ... but not suitable when many concurrent users over the svn, file and svn+ssh protocol [19:51] <demian> i use it for svn servers under windows too, so i could easily sincronize it with other svns under linux also using bdb. [19:51] <blindcoder> esden: I remember a ROCK checkout with bdb being slow as hell [19:52] <blindcoder> demian: use svm for that [19:52] <demian> svm ? google-ing.. [19:52] <esden> blindcoder: there were arguments for bdb ... but please do not ask my now where ... in the most cases it is correct ... you want to use fsfs [19:52] Action: blindcoder is having some wasabi coated green peas *shares with #rocklinux* [19:52] <esden> but there are situations like the webdav access were bdb is better ... IIRC [19:53] <esden> blindcoder: I just ate the last pea in my box [19:53] <blindcoder> esden: I just made svn run as group www, so everithing is fine here :) [19:53] <blindcoder> esden: o_O [19:53] <esden> I have to get anotherone from ingolstadt to rosenheim :( [19:53] <blindcoder> esden: you still HAD some today? [19:53] <esden> I still have 7 boxes or so in ingolstadt :P [19:53] <blindcoder> O_O [19:54] <esden> it is not my main meal [19:54] <blindcoder> you really save them [19:54] <blindcoder> oh,okay :) [19:54] <blindcoder> I sometimes have a box for dinner [19:54] <esden> I think I would puke if I had one full box on one time [19:55] <blindcoder> no [19:55] <blindcoder> You'd just have a "veraetzung" on your tongue [19:55] <esden> damn my tea is empty [19:55] Action: esden making another mug [19:55] <blindcoder> and everything would taste like metal for a few days [19:55] <esden> urgh [19:57] <demian> nice to know about svm. [19:57] <blindcoder> demian: [19:57] <blindcoder> demian: I use it for mirroring the rock-linux and mine repositories to fisheye.rocklinux.org [19:58] <demian> btw i foudn a pdf doc at clifford.at about submaster and distributed software development [19:58] <blindcoder> yeah, he's done a bit abotu that [20:07] <demian> bah, i hate when a product manufacturer doesnt show more technical info about a product: https://www.digiconcepts.com/cnet_modems_03.htm [20:07] <demian> and more when it is a Cnet one! [20:07] <blindcoder> isn't that normal these days? [20:08] <demian> sure, i will be forced to buy that one only because i have no enough info about this and another modems. :s .. i just hope it will work. [20:08] <blindcoder> try looking up some forums before [20:12] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.115) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.115) joined #rocklinux. [20:16] <blindcoder> esden: are you leeching again? :P [20:17] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHHA [20:18] <blindcoder> www.crash-override.net has been accessed from a symbian OS!1! [20:21] <demian> "Note that for USB modems, the correct port to use is not the serial port ttyS? series but probably the /dev/usb/acm/? series of ports, where ? is a usb number. I have never used a usb modem, so can provide no guidance on setting them up correctly." [20:21] <demian> ok, i will try on those device nodes. [20:22] <demian> have a nice day guys. [20:22] demian (n=jvargas@adslnat-rai-cartago-132.ice.co.cr) left #rocklinux. [20:24] <blindcoder> https://www.bbspot.com/News/2004/10/top_11_geek_kitchen.html [20:24] <blindcoder> MVAHAHAHAHAHA [20:24] <blindcoder> I love in jokes :D [20:24] <blindcoder> see #5 [20:42] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-131-173.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:43] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-006-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:43] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [20:43] <esden> blindcoder: nope ... [20:43] <esden> not really [20:44] <esden> but I am thinking about starting to leach [20:44] <esden> I need something badly :/ [20:44] <blindcoder> 252 MB between 18:00 and 19:00 [20:44] <esden> but first I have to find it [20:44] <esden> huh? [20:44] <blindcoder> maybe I'm just too sensitive :) [20:45] <esden> oook .. that may be the new podcast I downloaded [20:45] <blindcoder> hehe [20:46] <esden> ahh ... ok ... and the accoona crawler is sucking up my whole site [20:47] <esden> currently getting crazy about my gallery ;) [20:47] <owl> [x] people = shit. [20:48] <owl> why getting crazy about your gallery? [20:48] <blindcoder> esden: it crawled fisheye yesterday... [20:48] <blindcoder> esden: boy, did that make LOAD [21:20] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:35] <esden> blindcoder: now I am leaching ;) [21:36] <blindcoder> esden: have fun :) [21:36] <esden> but 154mb by 12kb/s is not very fast *sigh* [21:37] <esden> eta 210min [21:37] <blindcoder> 12 kB/sec ? [21:37] <blindcoder> why so few? [21:37] <esden> the server hangs on a dsl line [21:37] <esden> a slow dsl line [21:37] <blindcoder> eww [22:08] <esden> I will kill the one who invented viruses and bacteria !!! >_< [22:08] <esden> damn microorganisms! [22:44] reinaldo (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] --- Tue Oct 25 2005