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[00:09] SteffenP (i=steffen@p5499350D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [00:19] <esden> ping ... is anyone here? [00:20] Action: SMP is [00:20] <esden> ahh good SMP [00:20] <esden> can you explain to me the term "vertical question"? [00:20] <SMP> give me some context [00:21] <esden> I stated a question ... and someone said that it was the most vertical question posted in that channel ... I am not sure if it is positive or not [00:22] <esden> the question was: "probably noone has this information here but asking does not cost, right? ... Does anyone have access to the blueprints of a Praktica super TL? ;)" [00:24] <SMP> it means that your question was focussed on a very specific topic [00:25] <esden> humm ... ok ... thanks SMP [00:25] <SMP> maybe you know the terms "vertical market" vs. "horizontal market" (or "software" instead of "market") [00:27] <esden> yes, I think that helps me [00:28] <owl> *closing eyes* .oO( bwp... help) hi SMP ;p [00:30] <esden> and so btw ... how are you SMP, long time no see [01:15] <cutio> esden: *way offtopic* [01:16] <esden> cutio: as always ;) [01:16] <cutio> i mean, vertical question=way offtopic question [01:16] <esden> cutio: ahhh .... oook ... o_O [01:16] <esden> urgh [01:16] <esden> ok ... [01:16] <esden> never mind [01:17] <cutio> hm? [01:17] <cutio> woah you asked an hour ago [01:17] <esden> if that is an offtopic question in a channel named #photogeeks ... then I really do not know ... [01:17] <cutio> what did you ask? [01:17] <cutio> ah [01:17] <esden> "Does anyone have access to the blueprints of a Praktica super TL?" [01:18] <esden> it is an SLR Camera [01:18] <cutio> hehe yeah, its like asking a musician to build a guitar [01:19] <esden> that are geeks dammit! :) [01:19] <esden> a geek guitar musician also knows how to build himself a guitar! [01:19] <esden> ;) [01:20] <esden> you can ask a computer scientist how to build a computer ... not? [01:20] <esden> even if he is only coding [01:22] <owl> not everyone ;) [01:22] <cutio> i dont know many coders who're able to *loeten* (whats the english expression?) [01:23] <esden> humm .. right ... but there are ones that can soldier [01:23] <esden> I can soldier! dammit! :) [01:23] <esden> I am not the best in it ... but I know who to ask at least ... and where to look [01:24] <owl> hehe [01:25] <esden> but yes ... I admit that the channel is called #photogeeks ... and not #camerageeks ... [01:25] <esden> that is a big difference ... but #camerageeks does not exist [01:25] <owl> found it ;) [01:25] <esden> huh? [01:26] <owl> gruenden [01:26] <owl> found it? dunno. guess it is [01:26] <esden> ok ... I created one :) [01:27] <owl> hehe ;p [01:27] <esden> I am sure to be alone there for ages [01:27] <owl> *g* maybe ;) [01:29] <owl> somehow my eyes hurt... [01:29] <esden> ok .. I take my aspirin ... and other stuff [01:29] <owl> other stuff? AB? [01:29] <owl> went to the doc? [01:29] <esden> I went there ... but he had closed already [01:29] <esden> have to go there tomorrow at 8:30 >_< [01:30] <owl> hehe. when did you arrive at doc? ;) [01:30] <esden> 17:05 >_< [01:31] <esden> they close at 17:00 >_< [01:31] <owl> ouch. what a sick time [01:31] <cutio> lol [01:31] <cutio> nice pun;) [01:35] <esden> ooook ... I go to bed [01:35] <esden> good night folks [01:36] <stf^rocklinux> good night [01:37] <owl> gn8 esden [01:57] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-109-144.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:05] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-115-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:05] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:20] maisenhe (i=maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:20] <maisenhe> re [04:20] Nick change: maisenhe -> rolla [04:34] <rolla> anyone alive in here? [04:34] <stf^rocklinux> hi rolla [04:35] Action: stf^rocklinux is fixing gcc40-related bugs. [04:35] <rolla> so what is new in the rocklinux world? [04:35] <rolla> fun fun [04:35] <rolla> I am watching a bad american movie [04:35] <rolla> euro-trip [04:35] <stf^rocklinux> I'm watching "Srgt. Bilko" with Steve Martin... [04:35] <rolla> :) [04:35] <rolla> cool [04:37] <stf^rocklinux> only one package with gcc40 errors left in the Crystal target ;) [04:37] <rolla> sweet [04:38] <stf^rocklinux> avifile. I'm currently trying to fix it. It's pretty outdated... [04:41] <rolla> that is no good [04:42] <stf^rocklinux> the latest avifile version available is about 2 years old, and it comes with an own (outdated) copy of ffmpeg [04:43] <mnemoc> stf^rocklinux: it's fixed on t2 if you want to take the patch [04:43] <stf^rocklinux> I'll take a look [04:43] <stf^rocklinux> I'm almost done so I can compare ^^ [04:43] <mnemoc> :) [04:43] <stf^rocklinux> btw. hi mnemoc [04:44] <mnemoc> 'inspiration' is also royalty free ;) [04:44] <mnemoc> hi :) [04:45] <rolla> re mnemoc [04:45] <mnemoc> hi rolla [06:51] Nick change: mmc -> mmc_dtch [07:51] <daja77> hi rolla [08:27] <blindcoder> moin [08:37] <blindcoder> oioioi [08:37] <blindcoder> so much stress just for driving to dresden [08:57] <blindcoder> eww [08:58] <blindcoder> still a bug in bootdisk [09:00] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder [09:01] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux [09:02] <stf^rocklinux> finally all CORE and bootdisk packages build with gcc40 :) [09:03] <blindcoder> sweet [09:03] <blindcoder> how many patches? [09:04] <blindcoder> hmm [09:04] <blindcoder> how can I tell gcc _explicitly_ where to look for libraries? [09:04] <blindcoder> it tries to use /lib where it finds incompatible libs [09:05] <stf^rocklinux> 12 for bootdisk, 41 for Crystal [09:05] <blindcoder> I want it to _not_ look in /lib [09:06] <stf^rocklinux> -Ldir? [09:06] <blindcoder> I tried [09:06] <blindcoder> doesn't help [09:09] <blindcoder> nevermind, found another solution [09:09] <stf^rocklinux> which one? [09:10] <blindcoder> copying the misc/isomd5sum dir to build/foo, chrooting there, compiling there [09:10] <blindcoder> long live the wuergarounds :) [09:11] <stf^rocklinux> yeah [09:48] ija (i=[2jAOupm@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:56] Action: [raphael] is back [09:58] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] [10:07] <[raphael]> moin blindcoder [10:11] <esden> lmao!! Last episode of Tiki bar rulez! [10:11] <esden> *rofl* [10:17] <blindcoder> tiki bar? [10:20] <owl> moin [10:20] <blindcoder> moin owl [10:20] <blindcoder> HAH [10:20] <owl> hi blindcoder [10:20] <blindcoder> finally found the missing data! [10:21] <blindcoder> note to self: there is more to ip than tcp and udp [10:22] <blindcoder> esden: wrt our discussion about ajax/ror: https://blog.crash-override.net/index.php?id=28 :) [10:24] <blindcoder> and, and everyone in germany: HAPPY FIFTY YEARS OF WAR! [10:24] <esden> blindcoder: yes I read that [10:25] <esden> blindcoder: what did you do to my routing [10:25] <esden> it is not working anymore!!! [10:25] <blindcoder> esden: ehm... nothing? [10:25] <daja77> hm I should link blindy's blog from mine [10:25] <blindcoder> esden: sorry [10:25] <blindcoder> esden: seems I messed up ceres and pallas somewhere [10:26] <esden> blindcoder: thanks ;) [10:26] <blindcoder> esden: restored [10:26] <esden> o_O? [10:26] <blindcoder> esden: screen-in-screen [10:26] <esden> rofl [10:26] <esden> classical mistake [10:26] <blindcoder> root@<whatever>: iptables -F [10:27] <esden> urgh [10:27] <esden> but the chains list is ... VERY big [10:28] <esden> NP: Mercy Machine - Damascus [10:28] <esden> that is something for fake and the alike ;) [10:28] <esden> but that song rulez! [10:30] <esden> https://www.podcastingnews.com/details/feeds.feedburner.com/tikibartv/view.htm <- tiki bar tv [10:30] <esden> that is something for blindy ... it is about coctails ;) [10:30] <esden> and it is _really_ funny ;) [10:30] <blindcoder> heh [10:32] <esden> ok ... I have to leave [10:32] <esden> cu l8er [10:32] <blindcoder> bye [10:41] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.10.3 : https://kopete.kde.org"). [10:49] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:57] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.10.3 : https://kopete.kde.org"). [11:10] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:43] Action: daja77 dancing around [11:44] Action: mnemoc looks daja77 dancing around [11:45] <daja77> I found out why spl didn't build yesterday [11:45] <mnemoc> :) [12:03] <blindcoder> daja77: why? [12:03] <blindcoder> esden: ping [12:04] <daja77> I had a mysql 4.0.x on the machine, 4.1.x is required but the check is only looking if a mysql header is present, not if the version is ok [12:05] <blindcoder> hmpf [12:05] Action: blindcoder blames clifford :) [12:05] <daja77> exactly ;) [12:06] <daja77> well the syscheck.sh is easier to read than autoconf though? [12:08] <blindcoder> hard to believe considering the author [12:14] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:14] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:49] <daja77> no really ;) [13:05] <esden> re hi all [13:05] <owl> wb esden [13:05] <esden> woot ... /me made some images with the D50 today ;) [13:05] <esden> I will soon post one of them in my blog ;) [13:06] <owl> esden: your D50? or just lent somewhere? [13:06] <blindcoder> re esden [13:07] <esden> owl: I went to the photoshop I was yesterday with my own CF card ;) [13:07] <esden> and made something about 30 pictures ;) [13:07] <owl> esden: *g* ok. [13:08] <blindcoder> esden: I talked to a friend of mine who's into photographing a lot [13:08] <blindcoder> esden: and he meant that when you're used to the practica you won't be happy with the d50 [13:08] <owl> apropos: have some new fotos, too... ;) [13:08] <esden> blindcoder: why? [13:09] <blindcoder> esden: qualitywise [13:09] <esden> blindcoder: humm ... I do not expect any digital SLR to compete with the quality of a film camera [13:10] <esden> and I have not the money to buy a camera that may compete with it [13:10] <esden> a canon 5D is bit too expensive ;) [13:11] <blindcoder> heh [13:11] <blindcoder> isn't the light meter repairable? [13:11] <blindcoder> oh, and I will get a camera myself soon :) [13:11] <esden> 2.769,00 euro for only the body is not in my ligue [13:12] <esden> blindcoder: not with the tools and knowlege I have here [13:12] <blindcoder> esden: yes, but at a shop? [13:26] <owl> esden: https://gallery.karnaya.de/v/tiere/hamster/esperanza/ [13:27] <blindcoder> HOORAY, server-admin is responsible for DDoS against his server by law [13:27] Action: blindcoder slams head against wall [13:28] <daja77> huh? [13:28] <blindcoder> https://slashem.crash-override.net/dump/Zered/Zered.lastgame.txt [13:28] <blindcoder> oops [13:28] <blindcoder> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65398 [13:28] <blindcoder> damn windows [13:28] <blindcoder> always have to press ctrl-c for copying [13:30] <daja77> ah yes that sucks [13:32] <esden> blindcoder: what camera will you buy? [13:32] <esden> blindcoder: or is that not decided yet? [13:32] <blindcoder> esden: can't give you the exact model number [13:32] <blindcoder> esden: can tell you tomorrow [13:32] <blindcoder> esden: it's matthias' old one, he got himself a new cam [13:32] <esden> erm ... what old camera? [13:32] <esden> an SLR? [13:32] <esden> or SLR like? [13:33] <esden> or a point and shoot thingy? [13:34] <blindcoder> as I said, I can tell you tomorrow [13:35] <blindcoder> 4 megapixel IIRC [13:35] <daja77> blindcoder: have you tried the tarball? [13:35] <blindcoder> daja77: I will when I'm home today [13:35] <daja77> k. [13:36] <blindcoder> esden: https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/2005-01-30_me/dscf0110.jpg [13:36] <blindcoder> esden: that's a pic from that cam [13:37] <blindcoder> esden: as well as these: https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/cgi-bin/thumbs.sh?id=2005-01-28_Kueche [13:38] <blindcoder> I'll get it for 150 EUR [13:38] <blindcoder> and you can mount different "objektive" on it [13:38] <blindcoder> actually, that cam is probably wasted on me :P [13:39] <esden> ok ... then it is an SLR [13:39] <blindcoder> daja77: tar tfj doesn't mention any errors so far [13:39] <esden> *sigh* [13:39] <blindcoder> what does SLR mean? [13:39] <esden> Spiegelreflex [13:39] <blindcoder> You know, I'm a photography idiot ;P [13:39] <daja77> damn i should have said that blindy made the pics esden was complaining about [13:40] <blindcoder> hehehe [13:40] <esden> lol [13:40] <blindcoder> hehe, finally version numbers for wine :P [13:42] <blindcoder> esden: https://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/?p=216 [13:42] <daja77> blindcoder: yep ;) [13:42] <esden> blindcoder: yes daja77 showed me that already ;) [13:44] <blindcoder> esden: you should read fefes blog for that :) [13:44] <esden> blindcoder: heh ;) [13:45] <esden> blindcoder: and yes ... that camera is wasted on you :P ... but who knows ... perhups you fall in love with photography and then it is not wasted [13:45] <blindcoder> we'll see [13:46] <blindcoder> maybe I get it as soon as tomorrow [13:46] <daja77> he takes a berlin skyline pic where you can look into everybody's home [13:46] <esden> lucker :( [13:46] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA [13:46] <blindcoder> daja77: that would make for some very bad pr0n [13:46] <esden> blindcoder: I would hide in your place [13:46] Action: blindcoder hides from esden [13:46] <daja77> blindcoder: even bad pr0n sells [13:47] <esden> and close the curtains [13:47] <blindcoder> daja77: true [13:48] <esden> blindcoder: get naked ... daja77 wants to make you a star! :) [13:48] <blindcoder> o_O [13:48] <blindcoder> there's a limit on how bad pr0n can be and _still_ sell [13:48] <blindcoder> but we can try... [13:48] Action: blindcoder greases his shinai [13:48] <blindcoder> here, esden, come here... [13:49] <esden> urgh ... I am not photogenic ... sorry :P [13:49] <blindcoder> doesn't matter, only your ass will be seen anyway :P [13:51] <blindcoder> anyway, have a meeting with my boss now [13:51] <blindcoder> with the mental image of a greased shinai [13:52] <esden> urgh [13:52] <esden> have fun [14:25] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:26] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:28] <blindcoder> daja77: I got us an USB DVD Writer for Dresden [14:29] <daja77> cool [14:30] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-187-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] <[raphael]> [raphael] [14:35] <daja77> O_o [14:36] BoS_ (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-209-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:53] <blindcoder> daja77: sponsored by Siemens COM :) [14:53] <blindcoder> ARGH [14:54] <blindcoder> bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. [14:54] <blindcoder> Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) [14:56] <blindcoder> daja77: the tarball is bronke :( [15:04] <esden> ok .. two new images online [15:04] <esden> I love the exif data ... I really miss them in the Praktica :( [15:04] <blindcoder> exif? [15:05] <esden> yes that are metadata stored in the Raw or jpeg image that contain information like camera type, lens type, zoom, shutter speed, f speed and so on [15:06] <blindcoder> ah [15:06] <blindcoder> and exif is the program to read them? [15:08] <esden> exifer is the program called [15:08] <esden> at least it is what pixelpost thinks [15:08] <esden> but I do not find the executable :/ [15:09] <blindcoder> hmm [15:09] <esden> ahh ok ... in this case it seems to be a php thingy [15:09] <esden> but there are console based things for that [15:10] <blindcoder> there are a lot of exif stuff on freshmeat [15:10] <esden> https://freshmeat.net/search/?q=exif§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 [15:10] <blindcoder> from php to libraries [15:10] <esden> yes [15:23] <esden> nice ... I have an ok from DHR to post his image tomorrow ;) [15:23] <esden> well well well ;) [15:25] Nick change: mmc_dtch -> mmc [15:25] mmc (i=mmc@83-103-88-29.ip.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] <blindcoder> esden: a pic of dhr? AAAAH *flees in terror [15:31] mmc (i=mmc@83-103-88-29.ip.fastwebnet.it) joined #rocklinux. [15:39] <esden> blindcoder: ROFL! [15:39] <esden> the day of doom will be tomorrow ;) [16:00] <daja77> blindcoder: huh? [16:01] <blindcoder> daja77: the tarball is damaged :( [16:02] <daja77> *testing* [16:03] <daja77> can you tell me the md5sum it has at your place? [16:03] <blindcoder> if you give me some minutes [16:04] <daja77> sure [16:04] <daja77> I am testing if I can unpack it here [16:04] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.42) joined #rocklinux. [16:05] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.23) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:06] <blindcoder> d1c059914aeed6fe15f673d614dbcb6c athlonbuilds.tar.bz2 [16:07] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [16:07] <daja77> looks ok [16:08] <blindcoder> brb [16:11] <blindcoder> back [16:31] <blindcoder> daja77: can you repackage? I'm off for today [16:31] <daja77> it is still unpacking [16:31] <daja77> I'd be happier exchanging it on litdd and create the image there, I can't blast that amount here every day [16:37] <daja77> blindcoder: well yes it is broken, but as far as I can see it you can use the athlonxp build, should be enough, athlon is not much different than p3 [16:48] reinaldo__ (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:17] <daja77> where is the personal clifford when you need one ;) [17:20] <esden> daja77: you have to pay to have a PC ;) [17:22] <daja77> everything is ok now :) [17:28] <th> i need to change a variable with a while loop. but the while-list seems to be a subshell, thus there is no way to pass date out of the while list. any ideas? [17:33] <th> uh [17:33] <th> it sint [17:33] <th> isnt [17:33] <th> strange things going on [17:35] Action: daja77 wondering if th is working on my machine ;) [17:35] <th> you really dont wanna know that [17:36] <daja77> agreed [17:58] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "Kopete 0.10.3 : https://kopete.kde.org" [18:01] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-032-16.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [19:24] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:25] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:11] SteffenP (i=steffen@p549961FE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:16] reinaldo__ (n=reinaldo@pc-14-24-104-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] <owl> re *shiffers* god, is it cold! *bibber* [20:29] <cutio> pff, 5°C here, kinda hot [20:30] <owl> hot? O_O [20:48] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-004-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:49] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-132-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:49] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [20:49] echolon (n=echolon@81-223-219-48.static.home.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [20:51] echolon (n=echolon@81-223-219-48.static.home.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Client Quit [21:25] <blindcoder> daja77: ping [21:28] <daja77> pong [21:31] <blindcoder> daja77: how long will you be up at friday? [21:31] <blindcoder> daja77: hannes and my place of sleep just busted [21:31] <blindcoder> daja77: and he'll only arrive at DD at Saturday night 00:03 AM [21:32] <daja77> blindcoder: yeah I heard of it, he'll come to my place at friday [21:33] <blindcoder> hm, he just mentioned that we might be able to stay at CCC Dresden [21:33] hannes_ (n=hannes@port-212-202-55-34.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #rocklinux. [21:33] <hannes_> hi [21:33] <owl> hi hannes_ [21:34] <daja77> hi hannes [21:34] <daja77> :) [21:34] <hannes_> hi owl, hi daja77 [21:35] <hannes_> daja: i still hope, that we'll get sleeping room in c3d2 [21:35] <daja77> yes me too [21:35] <hannes_> daja: because a train ticket to chemnitz would be more expensive than to dd [21:35] <hannes_> fukami said, it should be no problem [21:35] <daja77> I can imagine that [21:36] <cutio> you can sleep well in the dresdner bank too.. i did so 2 times already ;) [21:36] <hannes_> hmmmm [21:37] <hannes_> no ;) [21:37] <daja77> cutio: any other ideas? [21:37] <blindcoder> hannes_: great! [21:37] <blindcoder> hannes_: how many people? :) [21:37] <hannes_> i don't know the new clubrooms of c3d2 [21:38] <hannes_> but there should be enough place for 3 people [21:38] <hannes_> but they don't have stable internet :< [21:38] <cutio> daja77: hmm.. well i think someone of the c3d2 could help you [21:38] <cutio> ccc/dd [21:38] <blindcoder> okaaaaay, so if push comes to shove I'll bring someone else, too [21:38] <cutio> like u said [21:38] <blindcoder> fsck internet, I need a place to sleep :P [21:39] <owl> blindcoder: hotel? [21:39] <hannes_> blindcoder: should be no problem [21:39] <hannes_> owl: money? [21:40] <hannes_> ;) [21:40] <owl> if there is money for driving to dresden..... ? ;) [21:40] <hannes_> owl: yeah, but that's it then [21:40] <daja77> well if you want to stay here for a night or two please tell me [21:41] <hannes_> owl: for me they are my last money for this month [21:41] <owl> O_O [21:41] <hannes_> daja77: otherwise i'll sleep at the hbf [21:41] <daja77> hm [21:42] <blindcoder> owl: driving to DD and back: 40 EUR [21:42] <hannes_> daja: it should be no problem to get into the club ;) [21:42] <daja77> ok [21:42] <owl> blindcoder: car? [21:42] <blindcoder> bahnhofsmission? :) [21:42] <blindcoder> owl: ack [21:43] <hannes_> daja: karlsruhe -> dresden: IC, ICE, NZ, RE, CX, BUS [21:43] <owl> why not sleeping in the car, then? :) [21:43] <hannes_> daja: what the hell? [21:43] <daja77> hannes_: ? [21:43] <hannes_> daja: that would be a trainconnection from karlsruhe to chemnitz [21:44] <cutio> hannes_: the dresdner bank or postbank are warmer than the hbf.. ive experiance, trust me:) [21:44] <cutio> *experience [21:44] <daja77> hannes_: I somehow don't get to which statement of me you are replying [21:45] <blindcoder> owl: washing in the morning? [21:45] <blindcoder> jumping into the next river? [21:45] <hannes_> daja: not to a statement of you [21:46] <hannes_> daja: to the train-connection between these two cities [21:46] <cutio> blindcoder: the elbe is clean:) [21:46] <owl> blindcoder: hmmm. ok. toilets? [21:47] <blindcoder> :P [21:47] <daja77> you are confusing me [21:47] <blindcoder> I'm NOT washing myself in the elbe [21:48] <daja77> good to know [21:48] <hannes_> daja: there is a train-connection between karlsruhe and chemnitz with 5 times changing the bus and the last trip would be by bus [21:48] <daja77> ah ok [21:48] <esden> puhh ... finally finished creating that damn graphs for SE2 >_< [21:48] <hannes_> s/bus\ /train\ / [21:48] <daja77> well perhaps driving is easier [21:49] <daja77> so should I fetch you? [21:49] <hannes_> daja: i'll tell you tomorrow [21:49] <hannes_> daja: i would sleep in dd if it's possible. and the chances are really good [21:49] <hannes_> so there should be no need to [21:49] <hannes_> esden: hi :} [21:49] <esden> hi hannes_ [21:51] <daja77> hannes_: ok [21:59] <blindcoder> esden: se2? [22:18] <esden> blindcoder: software engeneering 2 [22:18] <esden> it is a real life simulation [22:18] <esden> where you have to develop a software product using all the "usefull" things you have learned in se1 ;) [22:19] <daja77> congrats [22:19] <daja77> what sw you are using for the simulation? [22:20] <esden> our group has to develop a "LAN-Party management software" [22:20] <esden> very interesting *sigh* [22:21] <daja77> wtf? [22:21] <esden> daja77: yes that is the same I am thinking all the time too [22:21] <daja77> :D [22:22] <esden> but we can not really choose what we want to do [22:22] <esden> and sadly this was the most interesting project ... that was not so big that one would break under it [22:26] <daja77> i better don't ask what other projects were available [00:00] --- Thu Oct 27 2005