[00:13] <rolla> re
[00:19] <owl> hi rolla 
[00:24] <rolla> hallo owl
[00:26] <rolla> hmm it seems I havet register my nick :(
[00:29] <rolla> clear
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[02:01] <owl> gn8
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[08:15] <esden> morning everyone
[08:19] <daja77> moin esden 
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[08:27] <esden> moin daja77 
[08:33] <blindcoder> moin
[08:33] <esden> moin blindcoder!!!
[08:33] <esden> *hug*
[08:35] <blindcoder> *rehug*
[08:38] <blindcoder> UWAAAH
[08:38] <blindcoder> DHR
[08:38] <blindcoder> anyway, brb
[08:46] <blindcoder> GRAAH
[08:46] <blindcoder> I so hate big companies
[08:50] <esden> blindcoder: hehe ... ;) may the fear be with you ;)
[08:50] <blindcoder> no, the anger
[08:50] <blindcoder> no fear
[08:50] <esden> and what has DHR to do with big companies?
[08:50] <blindcoder> nothing :)
[08:50] <esden> good
[08:50] <esden> and what is the problem with "big" companies?
[08:50] <blindcoder> it's just that the projekt manager (sic) asks my boss where I am instead of talking to me directly
[08:50] <esden> and which company do you mean?
[08:51] <blindcoder> "a certain benjamin schieder sholud have been at blablabla this week"
[08:51] <esden> blindcoder: that is normal ... he is somewhere else in the chieranchy ...
[08:51] <blindcoder> HELLLLLL-O?
[08:51] <blindcoder> no, actually, he isn't
[08:51] <esden> are they standing beside you? ... and talking?
[08:52] <blindcoder> nope
[08:52] <blindcoder> they are just sitting a few rooms further down the hall
[08:52] <esden> and you hear them?
[08:52] <blindcoder> no, but I got the mail history from my boss with the request of a statement
[08:52] <blindcoder> I'm about to shit on their desks as a statement
[08:53] <esden> and where should you have been last week?
[08:53] <esden> blindcoder: rofl ... do that ... but let someone film that!
[08:53] <blindcoder> it was said that claudia (the technician from the windows machines) would call me if they need another pair of hands
[08:53] <blindcoder> so I have been where I'm supposed to be: at my desk working with solaris machines
[08:55] <blindcoder> machtkaempfe, grabenkaempfe or whatever
[08:55] <blindcoder> good that I've got a free day tomorrow
[08:55] <blindcoder> or I'd probably scream
[08:55] <blindcoder> brb
[09:01] <esden> blindcoder: screaming is ok.. as long as you do not get insane
[09:03] <blindcoder> re
[09:04] <esden> bopp
[09:04] <blindcoder> esden: I've had to leave sanity with the werkschutz 
[09:04] <blindcoder> so, 5 minutes of talking and everything is sorted out
[09:04] <esden> blindcoder: good
[09:06] <blindcoder> did I mentioned I hate big bureucracys cloaked as companies?
[09:10] <esden> blindcoder: loool ... you are in germany .... that is normal ;)
[09:11] <blindcoder> don't remind me...
[09:11] <esden> blindcoder: what about your shiny new cam?
[09:11] <blindcoder> the 50-years-of-war-in-germany celebration yesterday already got on my nerves
[09:11] <blindcoder> matthias isn't here yet
[09:12] <esden> blindcoder: you hate celebrations in the whole ... but in this case I really can understand you if I understood the title correctly
[09:12] <blindcoder> you don't by any chance speak .cz, do you?
[09:12] <blindcoder> esden: "50 Jahre Bundeswehr"
[09:13] <esden> blindcoder: lol .. perfect 
[09:13] <esden> blindcoder: I really can understand you ... 
[09:14] <esden> blindcoder: no I understand most of it because it is very similar to polish (not like russian that is much more far away) but I do not speek it
[09:14] <blindcoder> yeah, and because of that stupid thing it took me three times as long to get to BeLUG than usual
[09:14] <esden> why are you asking?
[09:14] <blindcoder> U. jsem vid.l mnoho program., které m..ily datový tok. Ale UTA Dragon (0.2) m. opravdu p.ekvapil. Jednak má minimální po.adavky, vy.aduje pouze iptables (na druhou stranu je t.eba je opatchovat), jednak poskytuje opravdu komfortní statistiky. Klasické souhrné podle .asu, ale i souhrny podle programu nebo u.ivatele. Tak.e pokud pou.ijete tento program, tak ji. není problém zjistit, který u.ivatel a jakou .inností zp.sobil v.
[09:14] <blindcoder> no, doesn't work with putty
[09:14] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:15] <blindcoder> http://www.root.cz/clanky/nova-softwarova-sklizen-19-10-2005/
[09:15] <blindcoder> I'd really like to know what that site writes about UTA Dragon :)
[09:17] <esden> puhh ... ok ... he writes about it ... that it makes statistics and you have to patch the kernel for it ... but I do not understend the details
[09:18] <blindcoder> too bad
[09:18] <esden> babelfish? ;)
[09:18] <blindcoder> doesn't do it
[09:19] <esden> damn
[09:19] <esden> google is also too stupid for it :(
[09:20] <blindcoder> yeah :(
[09:22] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:22] <blindcoder> I need to write a mail to hetzner
[09:24] <esden> blindcoder: why?
[09:29] <blindcoder> I need to know the IP addresses that are "free"
[09:29] <blindcoder> IE: traffic to and from there doesn't cost anything
[09:29] <blindcoder> because at home dragon gives correct data
[09:30] <blindcoder> while at pallas, the dragon data and the hetzner accounting data don't match by a few hundred MB a dya
[09:32] <esden> ok ... bbl ... have to change room
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[10:06] <owl> moin
[10:07] <esden> moin moin owl 
[10:08] <owl> hi esden ;)
[10:16] <owl> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65430
[10:33] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[10:35] <owl> bwahahahahaha. they fear me. i get a new device/photodatabase
[10:35] <blindcoder> o_O
[10:35] <owl> after about 10 days "reparatur"
[10:35] <blindcoder> esden: he forgot the cam :(
[10:39] <esden> blindcoder: please ask him about the model at least!
[10:39] <esden> I want to know what you will have ;)
[10:39] <esden> please ;)
[10:39] <daja77> blindcoder: can you put the athlonxp build on the dvd?
[10:40] <esden> bopp blindcoder 
[10:42] <blindcoder> daja77: I'll try to extract it
[10:42] <blindcoder> esden: mom
[10:43] <daja77> blindcoder: the tar aborts on the normal athlon build and extracted the other one completely here
[10:44] <blindcoder> daja77: extract running
[10:44] <daja77> thx
[10:45] <blindcoder> esden: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_s602-review/
[10:45] <esden> ahh ok a fuji
[10:45] <esden> thanks blindcoder 
[10:58] <esden> humm ... interesting camera
[10:58] <esden> for 150eur ... that is very good ... what do you get with the camera?
[10:58] <esden> blindcoder: battery? memory? bag? lenses?
[11:02] <blindcoder> esden: just what comes with it
[11:02] <blindcoder> esden: sans the battery, maybe
[11:02] <esden> ook ... because: http://cgi.ebay.de/Fuji-FinePix-S602-Powerpack-256-MB-Tasche_W0QQitemZ7556816211QQcategoryZ30975QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[11:03] <blindcoder> jepp
[11:04] <blindcoder> but I can't afford the 150 EUR in one bunch right now
[11:04] <blindcoder> so I'm paying matthias in two months 75 euro each
[11:04] <esden> blindcoder: well well ...
[11:05] <esden> and I have the feeling that my parents are thinking about financing me the D50 :D
[11:05] <esden> wooot woot! ;)
[11:05] <blindcoder> YAY
[11:05] <esden> but xmas is coming ... and I will ask everyone to give me money instead of stuff!
[11:06] <blindcoder> that's how my family handles this stuff for years :P
[11:06] <esden> blindcoder: that depends on the needs
[11:06] <esden> but I really love it when they manage it between them ... and then unexpectadly under the tree there is the thing that I whished the most
[11:07] <esden> it can be one thing from the whole family I do not care ... but when it is something like that ... WOOOOT
[11:07] <esden> that is how happy I was about my first digital ... the "Trust" thing ;)
[11:09] <blindcoder> true :)
[11:16] <daja77> http://www.shopblogger.de/blog/archives/2148-Mensa-Ideen.html
[11:18] <esden> ROFL ... /me dying
[11:18] <blindcoder> daja77: MUAHAHAHA
[11:18] <daja77> ;)
[11:19] <blindcoder> daja77: okay, the athlonxp extraction looks good
[11:19] <daja77> fine
[11:19] <daja77> at least one thing
[11:19] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[11:19] <daja77> I aplogize for the inconvience
[11:20] <blindcoder> at least we have an athlon build, so all those -O1248 guys can now STFU :)
[11:21] <netrunner> good morning.
[11:21] <blindcoder> moin netrunner 
[11:21] <netrunner> wonderful. first snow here, and I am ill
[11:21] <daja77> have you made pics?
[11:21] <netrunner> at least I found the correct APN to use cheaper (but crippled) internet.
[11:22] <netrunner> daja77: will upload now.
[11:22] <daja77> ah :)
[11:22] <netrunner> daja77: but only one out of my window  so far.
[11:22] <blindcoder> how crippled?
[11:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: no ssh, no nothing. only browsing over transparent proxy.
[11:22] <blindcoder> anyway, lunchtime
[11:22] <blindcoder> bbl
[11:22] <blindcoder> urgs
[11:22] <daja77> .
[11:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: I have an ssh on port 443 if that helps
[11:23] <blindcoder> transconnect-wise ;)
[11:23] <netrunner> blindcoder: I have too, but without knowing the proxy name 't know how to setup transconnect.
[11:24] <blindcoder> true :(
[11:24] <blindcoder> well, gotta go, bbl
[11:48] <netrunner> first pic of first snow in blog.
[11:50] <daja77> erh you have a blog?
[11:50] <netrunner> daja77: about my trip to russia, yes :)
[11:50] <daja77> where
[11:51] <netrunner> it is listed in the "developer's blog" site :)
[11:51] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/blog/blosxom.cgi
[11:54] <daja77> nice
[11:54] <daja77> hehe the vietnamese day pics are funny
[11:56] <blindcoder> back
[11:58] <blindcoder> daja77: can you send me the litdd-athlonxp configuration? I can't extract that, either :(
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[12:08] <daja77> hi fake 
[12:08] <owl> hi fake 
[12:09] <blindcoder> netrunner: hehe, the mystery of the missing socks :)
[12:10] <blindcoder> daja77: why do you have glut in your build o_O
[12:10] <th> it's hot
[12:11] <blindcoder> :P
[12:11] <daja77> because one package needed it ...
[12:11] <blindcoder> strange
[12:11] <blindcoder> no such problem here
[12:12] <daja77> blindcoder: this was one of the strangest build I ever had, related to the fs screw up
[12:12] <blindcoder> yeah
[12:33] <blindcoder> YAY!
[12:33] <blindcoder> I'll get the cam this evening and can take it with me to DD
[12:34] <esden> *sigh*
[12:34] <blindcoder> hm?
[12:34] <esden> nothing :(
[12:34] <blindcoder> :P
[12:39] <owl> blindcoder: i guess it's because you have a cam :p
[12:41] <blindcoder> owl: yeah, until I take the first picture of myself and break it
[12:41] <owl> *g*
[12:44] <owl> god. my budgies are real clowns :)
[12:45] <blindcoder> they have red noses and lots of makeup?
[12:46] <clifford> daja77: ping!
[12:51] <owl> blindcoder: nah, but they're quite strange in different ways ;)
[12:52] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:54] <stf^rocklinux> hi all
[12:55] <clifford> fg
[12:55] <owl> e.g. gandalf is eating merlin's toes...
[12:55] <clifford> ooups. ;-)
[12:55] <owl> yeah :)
[12:57] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux 
[12:58] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder
[12:58] <daja77> clifford: pong
[12:58] <stf^rocklinux> clifford: do you mind if I add this article (http://linux.oreillynet.com/lpt/a//linux/2001/04/27/rock.html) to RockDoc? 
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[12:59] <daja77> clifford: I have built it now, just forgot to mail about it yesterday
[12:59] <clifford> did you type "make string" ??
[12:59] <stf^rocklinux> ... The ROCK Linux Philosophy by Clifford Wolf?
[13:00] <clifford> stf^rocklinux: oh god! that was a long time ago...  ;-)
[13:01] <stf^rocklinux> I could update it of course, I think it's still a very good explanation of ROCK.
[13:01] <daja77> clifford: no, the reason was that I had old 4.0.x version of mysql installed which lead to an error that only shows up once, after that that string thing shows up, by installing 4.1.x it vanished, perhaps the mysql check shouldn't just check the header presence
[13:01] <clifford> stf^rocklinux: it's ok. but the article comes from a time where ROCK inux was more a distribution than a distribution build kit.
[13:02] <clifford> daja77: but where does the 'string' thing come from?
[13:02] <stf^rocklinux> fine, so I'll add the original version to RockDoc, then edit it. :)
[13:02] <clifford> stf^rocklinux: ok.
[13:03] <daja77> perhaps because that one module is missing
[13:03] <daja77> the -o string was confusing as hell
[13:03] <clifford> hmmm???
[13:05] <daja77> in the command line of gcc the one option was -o string, but string.o was already built
[13:05] <clifford> make wanted to link string.o into a string executeable. why? how can that be related to the mysql module?
[13:05] <clifford> just type "make string"
[13:06] <clifford> that's what make tried when it produced the output you have quoted in your mail
[13:06] <daja77> yes
[13:06] <daja77> I can reproduce this by typing make string
[13:06] <clifford> (the target "string" depends on "string.o" - so this doesn't collidate with the fact that string.o was already built)
[13:07] <daja77> yes sure, but string is no wanted target
[13:07] <clifford> I know what the problem is. you did a "make clean" ??
[13:08] <daja77> yes
[13:09] <clifford> this added "string" as dependency for the qt module to Makefile.deps
[13:09] <clifford> .. I don't know why - but I have seen that already.
[13:10] <daja77> ah, ok I guessed that make clean is broken, because I never got that mysql related error again, only after recheckout
[13:11] <clifford> stupid gcc
[13:11] <daja77> gcc does it?
[13:12] <clifford> gcc --std=gnu99 does not imply c++ system includes - like #include <string>
[13:12] <clifford> that's why it ends up in the dependency list.
[13:13] <daja77> interesting
[13:13] <th> that's what -isystem is for when using -MM
[13:14] <daja77> btw yesterday I built spl on a debian sarge, no big deal so far, but pcre did not build its cpp part there ;)
[13:15] <clifford> th: the c++ system include path depends on the gcc version and build time options.
[13:15] <clifford> .. so I can't add them manually to the "make deps" target.
[13:16] <th> that's true. that's why i wrote a wrapper to add everything in $INCLUDE to -isystem
[13:16] <th> you still need a correct $INCLUDE
[13:17] <th> it sucks - but it's more consistent
[13:17] <th> the reason is propably that not all angle brackets should mark included files as system includes
[13:36] <clifford> daja77: fixed in rev 651.
[13:37] <daja77> ah the make-deps.sh
[13:38] <daja77> ok make clean and make worked now here
[14:08] <netrunner> re
[14:18] Action: netrunner killing a svn checkout that hangs since last week
[14:20] <owl> O_o
[14:25] <clifford> daja77: how did you test the qt update?
[14:26] <daja77> hm
[14:26] <daja77> guess I haven't like the rest of the kde update, i just forgot to upload it when I made it ... so it came some days later, when I found it on the laptop ...
[14:27] <clifford> did you test the qt update without the kde update also?
[14:27] <daja77> no
[14:27] <clifford> hmm.. ok.
[14:27] <clifford> fyi: it does not work.  ;-)
[14:28] <daja77> normally I didn't posting updates untested but in this case I did
[14:28] <daja77> oh what's wrong?
[14:28] <daja77> i guessed it somehow from your question ...
[14:28] <clifford> the new ui seams to cause some troubles in kdebase..
[14:28] <clifford> (uic)
[14:29] <daja77> with 3.4.2?
[14:29] <stf^rocklinux> qt and kde updates together work, otoh (built with gcc40)
[14:31] <clifford> .oO( this crystal build is a pretty patchwork now )
[14:32] <daja77> crystal (complete build) is unfortunately not that bug free as the reference build
[14:33] <clifford> daja77: usually I get 1 error for crystal builds: scilab
[14:33] <clifford> .. and that's because of a compiler bug.
[14:34] <daja77> some of the gnome stuff was freaking out, but I forgot which
[14:35] <daja77> I should wipe out that build dir anyway, there is the worm in it
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[14:41] <clifford> nope. I have 23 errors here right now - most of them because kdebase failed..
[14:44] <cutio> 23 o_O
[14:47] <daja77> well the name base in kdebase somehow makes sense ;)
[14:49] <netrunner> wine released version 0.9
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[14:49] <daja77> now his mirc closed ^^
[14:49] <stf^rocklinux> ^^
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[15:08] <daja77> netrunner: 2005102613350116596 ;)
[15:56] <rolla> re
[15:57] <blindcoder> moin rolla 
[15:57] <rolla> afternoon blindcoder 
[15:57] <rolla> ok why is this damn nickserv ignoring me
[15:58] <blindcoder> because you're not identified :)
[15:59] <rolla> I have tried that
[16:00] <rolla> but it never it ignores me
[16:00] <daja77> nice spl syntax hilighting finally works
[16:02] <rolla> clear
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[16:02] <daja77> hi rolla
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[16:06] <rolla314> this nickserv thing is the biggest pile
[16:07] Nick change: rolla314 -> rolla
[16:07] <daja77> yes that sucks
[16:07] <rolla> yeah I just contacted a freenode staff person
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[18:27] <esden> re hi all
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[20:03] <owl> re
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[21:24] <blindcoder> re
[21:26] <owl> wb blindcoder 
[21:26] <blindcoder> thx
[21:27] Action: blindcoder feels his every bone
[21:30] <owl> haeh?
[21:30] <blindcoder> from kendo training
[21:30] <owl> ah. ok. :)
[21:30] <blindcoder> mitsu has intensified the training
[21:31] <owl> in what way? 
[21:31] <blindcoder> lots of technic training which is eeeevil
[21:32] <owl> hehehe :) 
[21:33] <blindcoder> goes directly o the leg bones...
[21:33] <owl> *g* enjoy it
[21:33] <blindcoder> heh, I do
[21:33] <owl> <- still has problems with left arm ("grippeschutzimpfung"-nebenwirkung)
[21:34] <blindcoder> because you can see progress that way
[21:34] <blindcoder> hmm
[21:34] <blindcoder> haven't had it yet
[21:34] <blindcoder> haven't had it in years
[21:34] <owl> grippe or the impfung? ;)
[21:34] <blindcoder> either
[21:36] <owl> tsss :p i had grippe the last years. for some month/grippe-session... now the first time i've got a grippeschutzimpfung
[21:37] <owl> the next 4 weeks i will do a "echinacea-kur", too... 
[21:38] <blindcoder> echinawhat?
[21:38] <rolla> re
[21:38] <owl> echinacea :)
[21:38] <blindcoder> re rolla 
[21:38] <blindcoder> owl: -v please?
[21:38] <owl> blindcoder: http://www.medizinfo.de/immunsystem/selbst/echinacea.htm 
[21:38] <owl> immunsystem-staerkung
[21:39] <blindcoder> gime the short version
[21:39] <blindcoder> ah
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[21:39] <owl> "pflanze, die bei kurzzeitiger anwendung das immunsystem staerkt und erkaeltungskrankheiten vorbeugt"... blah
[21:40] <owl> tastes horrible, but normally helps ...
[21:40] <blindcoder> heh
[21:40] <owl> hm? :)
[21:41] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: sorry, it seems the blacklist is a bit... greedy
[21:41] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: it the "anal" in "analyze" that it doesn't like
[21:42] <stf^rocklinux> ^^
[21:43] <stf^rocklinux> I was just about to ask you what it has with these error messages
[21:43] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: I removed it from the blacklist
[21:43] <blindcoder> well, there was that time where there were a _lot_ of wikispams
[21:43] <blindcoder> and I implemented a pre-commit based blacklist
[21:44] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: if there are more problems, just ask me. I get mails informing me of "spams "including which rule triggered it
[21:44] <stf^rocklinux> fine, thanks :)
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