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[09:24] <netrunner> moin
[11:51] <esden> moin netrunner!
[11:52] <netrunner> hey esden. read my autoaal question?
[12:20] <esden> netrunner: yes ... and I do not know the answer
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[12:20] <esden> netrunner: you should ask uwe
[12:20] <esden> perhups he knows the answer
[12:23] <blindcoder> moin
[12:28] <netrunner> esden: you are listed as author :)
[12:59] <esden> netrunner: :P
[12:59] <esden> I would have to look
[13:02] <netrunner> it just doesn't create configure.ac or configure.in.
[13:02] <netrunner> which is asked for by autoreconf -i
[13:02] <netrunner> which in turn is listed as to be called after autoaal in the readme
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[13:04] <daja77> damn he's gone
[13:07] <owl> moin
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[13:42] <netrunner> lol. /me reading commit messages of svn newbie: "please work", "Die!", "stupid program"
[13:42] <daja77> hehehe
[14:04] <esden> netrunner: you need the configure.aal afaik 
[14:04] <esden> from that configure.ac gets generated
[14:05] <esden> look in diagnostics for example
[14:06] <netrunner> http://www.hetemeel.com/einsteinform.php
[14:52] <owl> *yaaaaaaaaawn* hi
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[14:56] <blindcoder> moin
[14:57] <netrunner> is there any advantage for _me_ when downloading something as torrent?
[14:57] <daja77> it might be faster
[14:57] <blindcoder> possible faster download speed
[14:57] <netrunner> really? *trying*
[14:57] <netrunner> at least it is a reason I can tell when someone asks about the p2p traffic I cause :)
[14:58] <blindcoder> bittorrent relies on the same kind of good-faith as free software does
[14:58] <mnemoc> trackless does, but using a tracker only who gives, recieves
[15:01] <netrunner> blindcoder: bittorrent is not free software?
[15:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: as in relies on the users not cheating
[15:06] Action: netrunner finds interesting that firefox stays running if you close it.
[15:07] <daja77> until it eats so much memory the kernel kills it ...
[15:25] <mnemoc> to speedup next start
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[15:51] <owl> shalalalala. my 3-year-at-side license for my notebook is here :)
[15:52] <mnemoc> owl: throw it
[15:56] <owl> mnemoc: why? :)
[15:56] <mnemoc> owl: to test it's quality
[15:57] <owl> mnemoc: *kick* nah :)
[15:57] <mnemoc> it may be also 'defective'
[15:59] <owl> thx a lot :)
[15:59] <mnemoc> *g*
[15:59] <owl> gah. has OOo-base a functionality like "xxxxx"-nr-generation at primary-key?
[16:21] Action: daja77 wants stf back
[16:31] <esden> sooo
[16:34] <owl> bwuah. i am hating those glasses. *being blind*
[16:35] <esden> humm ... /me just had a lot of fun with javascript (without irony here it was real fun)
[16:48] <netrunner> oh, a girl with phone number in icq :)
[16:48] <netrunner> they are afraid of nothing :)
[16:49] <daja77> argh why is mysql including kernel headers anyway
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[16:54] <pilot> hi all
[16:54] Action: pilot has managed to migrate /etc/net to SVN
[16:55] <netrunner> hi pilot
[17:08] <esden> hi pilot 
[17:08] <esden> netrunner: call her!!!
[17:10] <blindcoder> moin
[17:10] <blindcoder> pilot: /etc/net?
[17:10] <esden> huhu blindcoder 
[17:11] <esden> blindcoder: you came back to life?
[17:11] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[17:11] <blindcoder> esden: I'm always alive
[17:11] <blindcoder> esden: sometimes more, sometimes less :)
[17:11] <esden> blindcoder: but now more I hope
[17:12] <esden> blindcoder: look at this if it works in your browser: http://www.esden.net/~esdentem/lapave
[17:12] <esden> you should be able to open every entry in the table
[17:12] <esden> change the settings of every entry
[17:12] <esden> and add new entries
[17:13] <blindcoder> AAARRGGHH
[17:13] Action: blindcoder scratches out his eyes
[17:13] <esden> hurgh?
[17:14] <blindcoder> too...much...fps crap...
[17:14] Action: blindcoder dies
[17:14] <blindcoder> well
[17:14] <blindcoder> it hardly works
[17:14] <esden> o_O?
[17:14] <blindcoder> I can add tournaments and change existing ones
[17:14] <blindcoder> I can't delete them and none of the links to the left work
[17:14] <esden> yes that is ok
[17:14] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[17:14] <esden> that is everything that works for now
[17:14] <esden> thanks
[17:15] <esden> ahh ... javascript can be fun at the end ... when you take care
[17:15] Action: netrunner gets a lot of zero-sized reply's on that page.
[17:16] <netrunner> I can flip open three "Tournier" entries, but there is only "Loading".
[17:16] <esden> netrunner: humm ...
[17:16] <esden> ahh ok ... you have opera
[17:16] <esden> humm ... will have to check the support for opera
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[17:21] <blindcoder> esden: why don't you just use working-everywhere-even-on-netbsd-on-my-toaster-with-w3m-server-side-php?
[17:21] <blindcoder> or my personal favorite: cgi and bash
[17:23] <esden> traffic and flexibility of the interface .. also no reloading ... 
[17:23] <esden> the interface feels this way more instand ... nearly as if it would be running on your machine
[17:23] <blindcoder> not flexible enough for w3m
[17:23] <esden> and also fun ... I wanted to test that approach
[17:24] <esden> blindcoder: who uses w3m on daily basis
[17:24] <esden> that is only an application for managing LAN-Parties
[17:24] <esden> who will be forced to use w3m for doing that?
[17:25] <blindcoder> esden: I do
[17:26] <esden> blindcoder: yes sure
[17:26] <blindcoder> well, as long as you have fun doing it :)
[17:27] <blindcoder> still, a possibility to use it without javascript would be nice for the console users and paranoids among us would be nice
[17:28] <esden> blindcoder: you will never use that ;)
[17:28] <esden> blindcoder: you do not go to lan parties ;)
[17:29] <blindcoder> of course not
[17:29] <esden> and in the last time I start to hate people with insane comprehansion of paranoia >_<
[17:29] <blindcoder> because they only play crap games there
[17:29] <esden> that is slowing down the evolution ;)
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[17:38] <blindcoder> esden: yeah, and next we know we have plain-text passwords for everything again. WOOHOOOOO!
[17:39] <esden> blindcoder: erm ... you are shifting it now to the other extreme
[17:39] Action: blindcoder paints his house black and white :)
[17:40] <esden> blindcoder: that fits you ;)
[17:40] <blindcoder> esden: btw, do you know something like that imagingsecrets but as text instead of podcast?
[17:40] <daja77> ah the lan party software ^^
[17:40] <blindcoder> esden: I can't get myself to listen for half an hour there...
[17:41] <esden> blindcoder: hehe ;)
[17:41] <esden> erm ... no ... have not found something like that yet
[17:41] <esden> I was also not really searching for it
[17:42] <blindcoder> damn :)
[17:43] <blindcoder> :)
[17:43] <blindcoder> :(
[17:43] <blindcoder> I can't type
[17:43] <blindcoder> must be the hunger
[17:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: I wonder since 4 hours if it could be hunger that my fingers are so cold.
[17:55] <blindcoder> netrunner: hmm
[17:55] <blindcoder> netrunner: well, at least I have some liquid bread here
[17:56] <blindcoder> come to think of it, that might be the only nutrition I have here...
[18:02] <blindcoder> jupp
[18:02] <blindcoder> it is
[18:02] <blindcoder> and it's only the beginning of the month :(
[18:04] <netrunner> oh, eclipse has improved since I last used it
[18:05] Action: netrunner going through the maybe-ide's-are-not-that-bad phase
[18:05] Action: blindcoder whacks netrunner with a bat-of-know-it-all that says: they are!
[18:08] <daja77> depends on the type of programs you are writing
[18:22] <netrunner> c++
[18:56] <blindcoder> daja77: shouldn't that be #ifdef __KERNEL__ || __MODULE__?
[18:58] <esden> wee ... I have food at home ... I will not starve at least the next few days ;)
[18:58] <blindcoder> esden: ass
[18:59] Action: netrunner was just called by a friend and invited for dinner :)
[18:59] <netrunner> (as fallback because his neighbours didn't show up)
[18:59] <esden> netrunner: have fun ;)
[18:59] <blindcoder> pff
[18:59] <esden> blindcoder: ?? ... what is your problem? o_O
[18:59] Action: blindcoder has a beer or two for fighting hunger
[19:00] <blindcoder> esden: being almost broke :P
[19:00] <esden> blindcoder: ups ... that is hard
[19:00] <blindcoder> esden: for reasons I don't understand because I can't find them
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[19:01] <esden> I know the feeling .. the last week I was starving almost all the time ... from time to time someone of my friends here gave me a peace of bread so that I do not die ;)
[19:01] <blindcoder> esden: yeah, and I just got paid...
[19:01] <blindcoder> heh
[19:02] <esden> I am really starving so that I can buy myself a camera :)
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[19:02] <blindcoder> the d50?
[19:03] <esden> blindcoder: ack!
[19:03] <blindcoder> hehe
[19:03] <esden> this month will be even harder then the last ... because I have no additional money like last month
[19:04] <esden> had money left from vacation last month
[19:04] <blindcoder> eww:(
[19:04] <blindcoder> I see
[19:04] <esden> this month there have to be 200eur left on my account .. so that I stick with my plan of saving 100 a month
[19:05] <blindcoder> well, I won't be able to come to ingolstadt for a week this month as I had planned
[19:05] <blindcoder> too much work with windows machines :(
[19:26] <blindcoder> okay, the beer and with it the dinner are gone
[19:28] <owl> re
[19:28] <blindcoder> moin owl
[19:28] <owl> hi blindcoder 
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[19:36] <daja77> blindcoder: don't think so
[19:37] <blindcoder> hmm
[19:37] <blindcoder> whatever
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[19:52] <blindcoder> owl: ping
[19:53] <owl> blindcoder: pong
[19:53] <blindcoder> hehe
[19:53] Action: blindcoder playing ping-pong
[19:54] Action: daja77 wants to kick some ass
[19:54] Action: mnemoc hides
[19:54] <blindcoder> daja77: ?
[19:55] <daja77> some blind cop gave me a ticket for using a disabled parking lot
[19:55] <blindcoder> o_O
[19:55] <blindcoder> I'm the only one allowed to use the blind prefix!
[19:55] <blindcoder> show me that blindCop bastard and I'll sue his pants off in public!
[19:56] <daja77> ^^
[19:56] <owl> O_o he/she/it must be really blind 
[19:58] <mnemoc> can you make money from this stupidity?
[19:59] <blindcoder> mnemoc: if that would work, my blog would have already made me a millionaire :)
[19:59] <daja77> no but i have to write a letter on my costs to defend myself
[19:59] <blindcoder> just stop by the next police dept
[19:59] <mnemoc> :\
[20:00] <owl> daja77: defend for what? might you should just visit the next police-station?
[20:01] <daja77> you'll get a payment request and you may reply to tell your version of the story
[20:02] <daja77> I've already won twice ...
[20:02] <blindcoder> :)
[20:02] <blindcoder> go daja!
[20:02] <daja77> ;)
[20:04] <daja77> ok time for pizza now
[20:05] <owl> daja77: guten hunger
[20:05] <mnemoc> :)
[20:05] <blindcoder> daja77: an guadn
[20:06] Action: mnemoc must be sick, ... i saw 'rootdn' :(
[20:06] <blindcoder> rootdn o_O
[20:06] <blindcoder> wassat?
[20:06] <mnemoc> ldap crap
[20:07] <blindcoder> eww
[20:27] <owl> sigh. i am hating oo sometimes
[20:27] <blindcoder> why?
[20:28] <owl> because the DB is not able to generate a fscking random nr using date or something and doing "autovalue"-stuff correctly
[20:29] <blindcoder> hmm
[20:29] <owl> do you know a possibility?
[20:29] <blindcoder> no
[20:29] <owl> or another way of getting a fscking random-nr
[20:30] <blindcoder> all I use OOo for is writing a letter :)
[20:30] <owl> siiiiiiiigh. :(
[21:01] <esden> soo film vorbei
[21:02] <esden> ups wrong window ;)
[21:04] <owl> ill crap sick odbc-crap! *wuff*
[21:05] <mnemoc> #define odbc crap
[21:06] <owl> mnemoc: mysql with-something-ill to be able to use the mysql-data with openoffice...
[21:18] <th> how to get the last N characters of a variable in bash?
[21:18] <daja77> tail sth?
[21:19] <th> i need something like ${FOO:0:3}
[21:19] <th> but for the last chars - not the first
[21:20] <stf^rocklinux> ${FOO:-3:3}
[21:20] <stf^rocklinux> negative offset counts from the end of the string
[21:20] <daja77> stf is back ^^
[21:20] <blindcoder> YAY
[21:20] <stf^rocklinux> Na, it's just an illusion ^^
[21:21] <th> stf^rocklinux: that does not work in my bash
[21:21] <daja77> wanted to ask you sth earlier but worked it out in the meantime
[21:21] <stf^rocklinux> hmm
[21:22] <daja77> i first thought the mysql problem was gcc4 related but the problem were the new kernel headers
[21:22] <th> stf^rocklinux: the manpage mentions this feature
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux> yes, read the bash manpage too, but it does not work here either. Bug?
[21:23] <th> hmm
[21:23] <daja77> perhaps we should use bash3 soon ...
[21:24] <mnemoc> /join #bash
[21:26] <stf^rocklinux> doesn't work with bash3 either
[21:27] <daja77> ;)
[21:34] <stf^rocklinux> got it at #bash :)
[21:34] <stf^rocklinux> (21:35:29) TheBonsai:  stf^rocklinux: it collides with ":-" syntax.
[21:34] <stf^rocklinux> (21:35:35) TheBonsai:  stf^rocklinux: just prepend a space
[21:34] <stf^rocklinux> (21:35:46) TheBonsai:  stf^rocklinux: or use ((-1)) or so
[21:35] <stf^rocklinux> ${FOO: -3:3}
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[21:36] <th> ahhhh
[21:36] <th> thanks stf
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