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[09:57] <netrunner> http://koeln.ccc.de/prozesse/running/fnordlicht/artikel.xml
[10:01] <daja77> hi netrunner 
[10:36] <blindcoder> moein
[10:36] <blindcoder> moin
[10:58] <netrunner> is there a kdebase build log online somewhere?
[10:59] <daja77> you can have mine ...
[10:59] <netrunner> daja77: could you just grep if there is a check for hal?
[11:00] Action: netrunner now built dbus and hal (just fighting with pmount)
[11:00] <netrunner> but I fear I need to rebuild kdebase, and my build server is offline :(
[11:01] <daja77> grep hal shows nothing
[11:02] <netrunner> daja77: thx. sounds like more work then simple rebuild :)
[11:03] <daja77> :)
[11:03] <daja77> --enable-hal or sth?
[11:03] <netrunner> yes, maybe. the document I read says it 'detects' it.
[11:04] <daja77> hm
[11:04] <netrunner> maybe the output contains not 'hal' but something else.
[11:04] <daja77> maybe
[11:04] <netrunner> I'll download it and try.
[11:04] <daja77> i can read the configure output ...
[11:04] <netrunner> would be cool
[11:04] <netrunner> it will be a nice feature :) automatic device recognition and maybe even mounting.
[11:06] <daja77> checking for easter eggs... none found
[11:06] <netrunner> :)
[11:06] <daja77> interesting log ^^
[11:07] <daja77> oh I think we should tweak the kdebase build order when I look at this log
[11:08] <netrunner> what for?
[11:09] <daja77> a lot of things missing libusb support e.g.
[11:09] <daja77> there we are
[11:09] <daja77> checking for the HAL 0.4... searched but not found
[11:09] <daja77> checking for DBus... searched but not found
[11:09] <daja77> checking for DBus-Qt bindings... searched but not found
[11:09] <netrunner> cool.
[11:09] <daja77> checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... no
[11:10] <netrunner> should be ... is there a --enable for this?
[11:10] <netrunner> I'll do it and build it on my laptop.
[11:10] <daja77> erhm it is checking for it without any enable switch ..
[11:11] <netrunner> yes! http://mmc.drzeus.cx/wiki/Controllers/SDHCI
[11:11] <netrunner> a project that will support my sd controller
[11:11] <daja77> there might be better firewire support in kde as well if the priority is tweaked
[11:13] Action: netrunner so far needed no firewire support directly in kde
[11:13] <blindcoder> re
[11:14] <daja77> netrunner: that doesn't matter but when you rework the package anyway it could be done properly ;)
[11:19] <netrunner> daja77: well, the priorities are generated. so the priority generator needs to be fixed, if it is a priority problem.
[11:21] <daja77> that won't be easy since the package builds fine, just with a lot of stuff disabled
[11:22] <netrunner> but it checks for some headers. so why is that check not recognized ...
[11:22] <netrunner> damn, I wish my build server would react on wol as it should
[11:22] <daja77> hm no idea
[11:23] <netrunner> ah, but it does not find headers. but why doesn't it find the headers in stage 9 ...
[11:23] <netrunner> daja77: do you have the rebuild stage logs?
[11:24] <daja77> perhaps because of the stupid kde prefix we have
[11:24] <daja77> no
[11:30] <netrunner> well, let's remove it :)
[11:30] <netrunner> was there a reason for it?
[11:30] <daja77> dunno
[11:30] <netrunner> I also had the habit of placing big things to /opt. But what do we have package management for :)
[11:31] <daja77> iirc we already discussed it once to point it to /usr instead
[11:43] <netrunner> aha. maybe it is a good idea not to blow the wol packet for my build server out to the internet but to the lan :)
[11:44] Action: netrunner downloading kdebase
[11:44] <daja77> :)
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[12:55] <netrunner> Nov  8 14:56:45 ERROR[17493]: chan_alsa.c:589 alsa_write: You've got some big problems
[12:55] <daja77> hehe
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[13:03] <owl> moin
[13:03] <th> a WOL packet blown out to the internet might cause big voltage fluctuations - worldwide.
[13:04] <daja77> ^^
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[13:08] <netrunner> th: fortunately they are adressed.
[13:12] <netrunner> checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... yes
[13:13] <netrunner> let's see how long it takes on my notebook. and hope kdebase 3.4.3 is compatible to the rest in 3.4.2
[13:15] <daja77> think so, 3.4.3 was basically a bugfix release
[13:20] <netrunner> ts, building since 17 minutes and still configuring.
[13:21] <daja77> yeah I thought about a benchmark which package has the longest running configure
[13:21] <netrunner> f**k, I had removed the disgusting arts packages. now I cannot build kdebase :/
[13:22] <daja77> yes arts is required
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[14:20] <blindcoder> re
[14:25] <madtux> ra
[14:26] <blindcoder> so
[14:27] <blindcoder> Anyone interested in an filesystem encryption mechanism using USB sticks/cardreaders and gpg?
[14:27] <blindcoder> I'm thinking about writing one and enhancing the current rockinitrd/device-mapper plugin with it
[14:27] <blindcoder> just say yes or no :)
[14:32] <madtux> yes
[14:35] <blindcoder> okay :)
[14:35] <blindcoder> expect results by the weekend
[14:36] <madtux> Good.
[14:40] <blindcoder> Gotta meet with Sven Guckes and someone else for a screen(1) and device-mapper meeting toda
[14:40] <blindcoder> y
[14:41] <madtux> u are going to borrow ur car to him today too right?
[14:43] <blindcoder> ehm, no...
[14:44] <blindcoder> not after I saw how he tried to open the trunk last time
[14:44] <blindcoder> also, I've switched to public transportation
[14:44] <blindcoder> lately I'm going around in Berlin so much that it's cheaper by now
[14:45] Action: netrunner wonders if the cryptmounting will work with the new automounting infrastructure
[14:46] <blindcoder> automounting infrastructure?
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[14:46] <blindcoder> where? how? did I miss anything?
[14:47] <netrunner> hal/dbus/pmount
[14:47] <blindcoder> just don't add the cryptdevice to the automount
[14:47] <netrunner> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS
[14:47] <netrunner> the three packages are in submaster, I just cannot recompile my kdebase here :(
[14:48] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:48] <blindcoder> I doubt that support for that is already in KDE
[14:48] <netrunner> it is.
[14:48] <blindcoder> I suggest http://shellscripts.org/project/dmscripts
[14:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: for crypted devices
[14:50] <blindcoder> netrunner: did you register the user messagebus? I didn't see that in your patches
[14:50] <netrunner> safe_useradd dbus 28 28 "D-Bus" / /bin/false "*"
[14:50] <blindcoder> also in Documentation/Developers/REGISTER?
[14:50] <netrunner> oh, wrong username.
[14:50] <blindcoder> :)
[14:50] <netrunner> oh, users have to be registered in a file?
[14:50] Action: netrunner never did that :=)
[14:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: no, it's just a list of "reserved" usernames
[14:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: I grep /etc/passwd to gain that knowledge :)
[14:51] <netrunner> Found already existing user 'dbus'.
[14:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: please also adapt that file.
[14:51] <netrunner> I'll leave the user dbus
[14:51] <blindcoder> lines 89  and 11 I'd say
[14:52] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:52] <blindcoder> what about haldaemon?
[14:52] <netrunner> yes, and I also added a user nx some time ago :)
[14:52] <blindcoder> The messagebus user is required for correct D-BUS operation.
[14:53] <netrunner> oh, no, only locally. freenx setup does that.
[14:53] <blindcoder> quote from the KDE wiki
[14:53] <netrunner> blindcoder: well, I called him dbus, according to the package
[14:53] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:53] <blindcoder> okay
[14:53] <blindcoder> if it works it's fine :)
[14:53] <netrunner> I don't care. I don't know if it works as I cannot rebuild kdebase.
[14:53] <blindcoder> just please also adapt the Documentation/Developers/REGISTER file
[14:55] <netrunner> I'll rename him.
[14:59] <netrunner> done
[15:00] <netrunner> damn, I am stupid.
[15:02] <netrunner> so, now I have rotated all 4 patches once, they should be in shape now :)
[15:04] <blindcoder> :)
[15:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: have you received money from those google ads?
[15:08] <netrunner> blindcoder: does the patch apply against newer kernels?
[15:08] <blindcoder> netrunner: a) some, yes. b) no idea
[15:08] <blindcoder> still running 2.6.11.9 here
[15:17] <netrunner> unknown returncode: 126
[15:17] <netrunner> from scripts/Config ... then it died :)
[15:19] <blindcoder> O_O
[15:19] <netrunner> somewhere there is something wrong.
[15:19] <blindcoder> what did you do?
[15:19] <netrunner> enter the linux kernel submenu. already twice.
[15:19] <blindcoder> uhm
[15:19] <netrunner> oh, maybe it is because I copied my .config to config/default/linux.cfg?
[15:22] <blindcoder> shouldn't pose a problem
[15:22] <netrunner> bbl
[15:51] <blindcoder> esden: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65895
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[16:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, the linux.cfg was the problem
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[17:41] <netrunner> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510723,00.html
[17:42] <daja77> about the domains?
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[17:54] <netrunner> daja77: yes.
[17:59] <daja77> ;)
[18:01] <netrunner> http://www.bestrejectedadvertising.com/ban/D.html 
[18:02] <netrunner> russian ads have style :)
[18:03] <daja77> hehe
[18:03] <owl> rofl
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[20:02] <madtux> hallo blindy
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[23:31] <blindcoder> okay, this was officially freaky
[23:31] <blindcoder> you talk to someone about dmcrypt and then mention LVP and he immediately says: Ah, the Linux Video Player. I had a look at it some time ago when it still used loopaes.
[23:34] <madtux> hehe
[23:51] <nookie_> hey madtux :)
[23:51] <nookie_> hi blindcoder 
[23:53] <madtux> Danny boy!!
[23:53] <madtux> :)
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