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[09:21] mmc (n=nnnnnerc@83-103-88-29.ip.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:27] mmc (n=nnnnnner@83-103-88-29.ip.fastwebnet.it) joined #rocklinux. [09:57] <netrunner> https://koeln.ccc.de/prozesse/running/fnordlicht/artikel.xml [10:01] <daja77> hi netrunner [10:36] <blindcoder> moein [10:36] <blindcoder> moin [10:58] <netrunner> is there a kdebase build log online somewhere? [10:59] <daja77> you can have mine ... [10:59] <netrunner> daja77: could you just grep if there is a check for hal? [11:00] Action: netrunner now built dbus and hal (just fighting with pmount) [11:00] <netrunner> but I fear I need to rebuild kdebase, and my build server is offline :( [11:01] <daja77> grep hal shows nothing [11:02] <netrunner> daja77: thx. sounds like more work then simple rebuild :) [11:03] <daja77> :) [11:03] <daja77> --enable-hal or sth? [11:03] <netrunner> yes, maybe. the document I read says it 'detects' it. [11:04] <daja77> hm [11:04] <netrunner> maybe the output contains not 'hal' but something else. [11:04] <daja77> maybe [11:04] <netrunner> I'll download it and try. [11:04] <daja77> i can read the configure output ... [11:04] <netrunner> would be cool [11:04] <netrunner> it will be a nice feature :) automatic device recognition and maybe even mounting. [11:06] <daja77> checking for easter eggs... none found [11:06] <netrunner> :) [11:06] <daja77> interesting log ^^ [11:07] <daja77> oh I think we should tweak the kdebase build order when I look at this log [11:08] <netrunner> what for? [11:09] <daja77> a lot of things missing libusb support e.g. [11:09] <daja77> there we are [11:09] <daja77> checking for the HAL 0.4... searched but not found [11:09] <daja77> checking for DBus... searched but not found [11:09] <daja77> checking for DBus-Qt bindings... searched but not found [11:09] <netrunner> cool. [11:09] <daja77> checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... no [11:10] <netrunner> should be ... is there a --enable for this? [11:10] <netrunner> I'll do it and build it on my laptop. [11:10] <daja77> erhm it is checking for it without any enable switch .. [11:11] <netrunner> yes! https://mmc.drzeus.cx/wiki/Controllers/SDHCI [11:11] <netrunner> a project that will support my sd controller [11:11] <daja77> there might be better firewire support in kde as well if the priority is tweaked [11:13] Action: netrunner so far needed no firewire support directly in kde [11:13] <blindcoder> re [11:14] <daja77> netrunner: that doesn't matter but when you rework the package anyway it could be done properly ;) [11:19] <netrunner> daja77: well, the priorities are generated. so the priority generator needs to be fixed, if it is a priority problem. [11:21] <daja77> that won't be easy since the package builds fine, just with a lot of stuff disabled [11:22] <netrunner> but it checks for some headers. so why is that check not recognized ... [11:22] <netrunner> damn, I wish my build server would react on wol as it should [11:22] <daja77> hm no idea [11:23] <netrunner> ah, but it does not find headers. but why doesn't it find the headers in stage 9 ... [11:23] <netrunner> daja77: do you have the rebuild stage logs? [11:24] <daja77> perhaps because of the stupid kde prefix we have [11:24] <daja77> no [11:30] <netrunner> well, let's remove it :) [11:30] <netrunner> was there a reason for it? [11:30] <daja77> dunno [11:30] <netrunner> I also had the habit of placing big things to /opt. But what do we have package management for :) [11:31] <daja77> iirc we already discussed it once to point it to /usr instead [11:43] <netrunner> aha. maybe it is a good idea not to blow the wol packet for my build server out to the internet but to the lan :) [11:44] Action: netrunner downloading kdebase [11:44] <daja77> :) [12:49] [anders-mcafee] (n=assassin@213.208.70.155) left irc: "Mesen orrrf..." [12:55] <netrunner> Nov 8 14:56:45 ERROR[17493]: chan_alsa.c:589 alsa_write: You've got some big problems [12:55] <daja77> hehe [12:57] [anders-mcafee] (n=assassin@213.208.70.155) joined #rocklinux. [13:03] <owl> moin [13:03] <th> a WOL packet blown out to the internet might cause big voltage fluctuations - worldwide. [13:04] <daja77> ^^ [13:05] madtux (i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com) joined #rocklinux. [13:07] mmc (n=nnnnnner@83-103-88-29.ip.fastwebnet.it) left #rocklinux (" "). [13:08] <netrunner> th: fortunately they are adressed. [13:12] <netrunner> checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... yes [13:13] <netrunner> let's see how long it takes on my notebook. and hope kdebase 3.4.3 is compatible to the rest in 3.4.2 [13:15] <daja77> think so, 3.4.3 was basically a bugfix release [13:20] <netrunner> ts, building since 17 minutes and still configuring. [13:21] <daja77> yeah I thought about a benchmark which package has the longest running configure [13:21] <netrunner> f**k, I had removed the disgusting arts packages. now I cannot build kdebase :/ [13:22] <daja77> yes arts is required [13:23] Action: netrunner adding packages to submaster in case someone wants to try [13:36] _BoS_ (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-215-054.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] _BoS_ (n=BoS@dslb-084-059-211-234.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:18] madtux (i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com) got netsplit. [14:18] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) got netsplit. 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[14:27] <blindcoder> I'm thinking about writing one and enhancing the current rockinitrd/device-mapper plugin with it [14:27] <blindcoder> just say yes or no :) [14:32] <madtux> yes [14:35] <blindcoder> okay :) [14:35] <blindcoder> expect results by the weekend [14:36] <madtux> Good. [14:40] <blindcoder> Gotta meet with Sven Guckes and someone else for a screen(1) and device-mapper meeting toda [14:40] <blindcoder> y [14:41] <madtux> u are going to borrow ur car to him today too right? [14:43] <blindcoder> ehm, no... [14:44] <blindcoder> not after I saw how he tried to open the trunk last time [14:44] <blindcoder> also, I've switched to public transportation [14:44] <blindcoder> lately I'm going around in Berlin so much that it's cheaper by now [14:45] Action: netrunner wonders if the cryptmounting will work with the new automounting infrastructure [14:46] <blindcoder> automounting infrastructure? [14:46] markuman (n=supermar@p509265AD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:46] <blindcoder> where? how? did I miss anything? [14:47] <netrunner> hal/dbus/pmount [14:47] <blindcoder> just don't add the cryptdevice to the automount [14:47] <netrunner> https://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS [14:47] <netrunner> the three packages are in submaster, I just cannot recompile my kdebase here :( [14:48] <blindcoder> hmm [14:48] <blindcoder> I doubt that support for that is already in KDE [14:48] <netrunner> it is. [14:48] <blindcoder> I suggest https://shellscripts.org/project/dmscripts [14:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: for crypted devices [14:50] <blindcoder> netrunner: did you register the user messagebus? I didn't see that in your patches [14:50] <netrunner> safe_useradd dbus 28 28 "D-Bus" / /bin/false "*" [14:50] <blindcoder> also in Documentation/Developers/REGISTER? [14:50] <netrunner> oh, wrong username. [14:50] <blindcoder> :) [14:50] <netrunner> oh, users have to be registered in a file? [14:50] Action: netrunner never did that :=) [14:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: no, it's just a list of "reserved" usernames [14:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: I grep /etc/passwd to gain that knowledge :) [14:51] <netrunner> Found already existing user 'dbus'. [14:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: please also adapt that file. [14:51] <netrunner> I'll leave the user dbus [14:51] <blindcoder> lines 89 and 11 I'd say [14:52] <blindcoder> hmm [14:52] <blindcoder> what about haldaemon? [14:52] <netrunner> yes, and I also added a user nx some time ago :) [14:52] <blindcoder> The messagebus user is required for correct D-BUS operation. [14:53] <netrunner> oh, no, only locally. freenx setup does that. [14:53] <blindcoder> quote from the KDE wiki [14:53] <netrunner> blindcoder: well, I called him dbus, according to the package [14:53] <blindcoder> hmm [14:53] <blindcoder> okay [14:53] <blindcoder> if it works it's fine :) [14:53] <netrunner> I don't care. I don't know if it works as I cannot rebuild kdebase. [14:53] <blindcoder> just please also adapt the Documentation/Developers/REGISTER file [14:55] <netrunner> I'll rename him. [14:59] <netrunner> done [15:00] <netrunner> damn, I am stupid. [15:02] <netrunner> so, now I have rotated all 4 patches once, they should be in shape now :) [15:04] <blindcoder> :) [15:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: have you received money from those google ads? [15:08] <netrunner> blindcoder: does the patch apply against newer kernels? [15:08] <blindcoder> netrunner: a) some, yes. b) no idea [15:08] <blindcoder> still running 2.6.11.9 here [15:17] <netrunner> unknown returncode: 126 [15:17] <netrunner> from scripts/Config ... then it died :) [15:19] <blindcoder> O_O [15:19] <netrunner> somewhere there is something wrong. [15:19] <blindcoder> what did you do? [15:19] <netrunner> enter the linux kernel submenu. already twice. [15:19] <blindcoder> uhm [15:19] <netrunner> oh, maybe it is because I copied my .config to config/default/linux.cfg? [15:22] <blindcoder> shouldn't pose a problem [15:22] <netrunner> bbl [15:51] <blindcoder> esden: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65895 [16:29] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995EAF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes, the linux.cfg was the problem [17:22] nookie (n=nookie@M238P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:30] nookie (n=nookie@M238P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:31] nookie (n=nookie@M373P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:41] <netrunner> https://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510723,00.html [17:42] <daja77> about the domains? [17:46] nookie_ (n=nookie@M259P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:46] nookie__ (n=nookie@M259P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:50] nookie (n=nookie@M373P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] <netrunner> daja77: yes. [17:59] <daja77> ;) [18:01] <netrunner> https://www.bestrejectedadvertising.com/ban/D.html [18:02] <netrunner> russian ads have style :) [18:03] <daja77> hehe [18:03] <owl> rofl [19:53] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-138-012.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:53] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-084-059-012-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:53] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [20:02] <madtux> hallo blindy [20:19] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:20] Action: [raphael] is away: dinner time, yay; I'm hungry already [21:07] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] [raphael] (n=raphael@host-84-235-196-162.satlynx.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[23:34] <madtux> hehe [23:51] <nookie_> hey madtux :) [23:51] <nookie_> hi blindcoder [23:53] <madtux> Danny boy!! [23:53] <madtux> :) [00:00] --- Wed Nov 9 2005