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[01:21] <esden> damn ... the film was so damn bad ... I hate hiphop
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[07:29] <blindcoder> moin
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[08:24] <esden> moin blindcoder 
[08:25] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[08:26] <blindcoder> greetings from my bed
[08:40] <esden> huh ... are you ill?
[08:42] <owl> moin
[08:43] <blindcoder> esden: yeah :(
[08:43] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[08:43] <owl> blindcoder: want migraene && zahnschmerzen and date with dentist? 
[08:43] Action: blindcoder coughs some bazillus into #rocklinux 
[08:43] <blindcoder> owl: nope, I'll stay with headache, coughing and sneezing
[08:43] Action: owl offers blindcoder a bottle of echinacea ;)
[08:44] <owl> blindcoder: sigh :( what a pitty.
[08:44] <blindcoder> still need to go shopping
[08:44] <blindcoder> need some food stuff
[08:44] <owl> *grumble*
[08:45] <owl> <- would like to eat something, too... but "joghurt" is too cold, soup too warm... bread to heavy... :(
[08:45] <blindcoder> pff
[08:46] <owl> hm? more verbose? ;)
[08:46] <blindcoder> it's not a problem of eating
[08:46] <blindcoder> it's a problem of getting out of bed, washing, putting clothes on and stepping out into the cold
[08:46] <owl> yeah. at your side :) i have the food, but problem with eating, you have no food, but no problem with eating. grmpf
[08:47] <blindcoder> and I still don't know what to make for lunch
[08:47] <blindcoder> currently I think about pancakes
[08:47] <owl> pancakes? at 0900 ?! O_O
[08:48] <blindcoder> for lunch
[08:48] <blindcoder> around 12:00
[08:49] <owl> ouch. iam blind
[08:49] <blindcoder> hehe
[08:51] <owl> :(
[08:52] <owl> *killing dentist* date resheduled *cries*
[08:53] <blindcoder> until when?
[08:53] <owl> 1200.
[08:54] <owl> this means: one hour later i will be able to eat (hopefully) again
[08:54] <blindcoder> hehe
[08:55] <esden> I need time!!!
[08:55] <owl> not funny, blindcoder . esden what for?
[08:55] <esden> life
[08:56] <blindcoder> esden: so what do you waste your time on+?
[08:58] <esden> blindcoder: do you have your mplayer patch for one frame advancing and backword?
[08:59] <blindcoder> hmm
[08:59] <blindcoder> I never made a patch like that
[08:59] <blindcoder> I changed it to 1 second from 10 seconds
[08:59] <esden> ahh ok ...
[08:59] <blindcoder> but try
[08:59] <blindcoder> mplayer -vo png
[08:59] <blindcoder> :)
[08:59] <esden> I thought it was frame by frame
[08:59] <blindcoder> then you'll have one png per frame
[08:59] <esden> rofl
[09:00] <esden> blindcoder: the key "." scrolls one frame forward ...
[09:00] <blindcoder> oh, nice
[09:12] <blindcoder> okay, I'm off shopping
[09:13] <owl> blindcoder: bye, enjoy it
[09:16] <esden> have fun blindcoder 
[09:34] <netrunner> moin
[09:36] <netrunner> problem of submaster is that patches may be aged.
[10:00] <th> aging is not a submaster-specific problem.
[10:09] <netrunner> direct commit would tell me that it is unneeded or conflicts with current trunk.
[10:19] <blindcoder> netrunner: please, please, _please_ complain to the person responsible for that
[10:19] <esden> wuargh ... where is my money
[10:19] <esden> re hi blindcoder 
[10:19] <blindcoder> esden: my thoughts exactly :)
[10:21] <blindcoder> netrunner: personally, I'd vote for such a system: after they proved their reliability, people get write access to their personal repositories. two or three "uber" reliable people get global write access and commit privileges.
[10:22] <blindcoder> but maybe I'm just stupid *shrug*
[10:24] <th> i do second the opinion that a more open policy would help us.
[10:25] <th> i think that the massive regression-tests in _trunk_ are too strict.
[10:25] <blindcoder> we should put this up for discussion at CCC
[10:25] <blindcoder> I think they make sense, but a build every weekend would probably suffice
[10:25] <netrunner> th: I don't think so. I see t2 every week has problems because their trunk fell into a broken state
[10:26] <th> i'm afraid i cannot attend c3 this year :-/
[10:26] <blindcoder> :(
[10:26] <blindcoder> th: but I'm afraid this topic might get too heated for discussing it non-personal
[10:27] <netrunner> th: I think there should be a semi-public branch, that is then merged and tested, and at success merged into main trunk
[10:27] <th> to make things clear: i DO like the regression tests
[10:27] <th> it's just that i dont like them as strict requirement for commits in trunk
[10:27] <netrunner> th: it keeps trunk usable.
[10:28] <th> netrunner: it keeps it "clean"
[10:28] <blindcoder> *cough* noone noticed some packages being unusable, still *cough*
[10:28] <th> netrunner: "usable" for trunk would mean that it can be used as _trunk_
[10:28] <netrunner> blindcoder: it keeps it buildable. and if you notice problems, mention them to others.
[10:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: yeah
[10:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: and I'm not talking about just anyone being able to update glibc and binutils
[10:29] <th> netrunner: and i would call this "semi-public" branch "trunk" and name the current "trunk" differently
[10:29] <netrunner> blindcoder: we have a way to small userbase to keep track of all our packages. there are merely no bugreports.
[10:29] <netrunner> th: 'stable'? ;)
[10:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: but about such packages as wesnoth and "personal" packages that nothing/not much depends on
[10:31] <netrunner> blindcoder: since when is wesnoth unusable?
[10:31] <blindcoder> netrunner: just a momnet
[10:32] <th> netrunner: no ;)
[10:32] <blindcoder> netrunner: what I meant was that the regression tests should still be done without exceptions for important packages (glibc, kernel, binutils and stuff like that)
[10:32] <blindcoder> netrunner: but that it's hardly necessary for packages like wesnoth
[10:32] <th> but i think that we are to "small" to keep three trees maintained.
[10:32] <th> so this would not work
[10:33] <th> the alternative could be to open trunk up a bit - and do tagging for every regression build
[10:33] <th> that way we can provide a "buildable" / "clean" tree in form of tags
[10:33] <th> we could distribute tar-balls of these tags
[10:33] <blindcoder> YAY, tarballs! :)
[10:33] <blindcoder> finally again ):
[10:33] <blindcoder> :)
[10:34] <netrunner> th: tags can be downloaded by everybody, why tarballs?
[10:34] <th> netrunner: how would one without svn download a tag?
[10:34] <th> netrunner: or one who does not want to learn svn?
[10:34] <th> or ANY revision control system?
[10:35] <blindcoder> *cough*fisheye*cough*
[10:35] <netrunner> th: the target group of ROCK Linux can be supposed to know svn.
[10:35] <esden> Microsoft Calendar (C), where every day is a release day.
[10:35] <netrunner> th: they have to know much more :)
[10:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: but it poses another entry barrier
[10:35] <th> netrunner: perhaps we should think again about what our "target group" is and should be. as it is now - it is TO SMALL
[10:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: suppose someone wants to use ROCK
[10:36] <blindcoder> browses the website and sees: please do svn blah
[10:36] <th> exactly
[10:36] <blindcoder> instead of simply clicking on a link
[10:36] <blindcoder> it is a step more that should not be necessary
[10:36] <th> i would have no problem if that link points to a CGI-style thing which creates the tarball on the fly
[10:36] <blindcoder> fisheye :)
[10:36] <th> yea
[10:36] <th> but it should be EASY as in "one-click"
[10:37] <th> so fisheye COULD be the backend only
[10:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: well, using a webdav enabled browser you just need to pull the link to your desktop :)=
[10:37] <esden> th: currently the target group seems to be also the developer group of rock ...
[10:37] <th> esden: yea
[10:37] <th> esden: and that's a problem.
[10:37] <blindcoder> netrunner: on icewm?
[10:37] <blindcoder> netrunner: on a terminal?
[10:37] <th> esden: some folks would perhaps become developers if they could start as users.
[10:37] <esden> I know one or in the best case two people that are not involved in rocklinux development and are using rock
[10:38] <blindcoder> esden: you know such people o_O
[10:38] <blindcoder> :)
[10:38] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you use icewm you know svn.
[10:38] <blindcoder> netrunner: really?
[10:38] <esden> th: sure ... you have to have developer knowlege of rockliunx to use it
[10:38] <netrunner> blindcoder: alternative desktop is sign of deeper understanding.
[10:38] <th> see USING rock as the gateway-drug to the rock-dev-drug
[10:38] <blindcoder> netrunner: I used icewm from the beginning of my linux days
[10:38] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you know svn?
[10:38] <blindcoder> netrunner: and I had _no_ clue what a version control system would be
[10:38] <th> esden: are you mixing "developer" with "rock-developer"?
[10:39] <th> 10:39:26 < esden> I know one or in the best case two people that are not involved in rocklinux development and are using rock
[10:39] <th> same here
[10:39] <esden> th: yes in this context I meand developer=rock-developer
[10:39] <blindcoder> netrunner: I can do ci co and write a hook or two
[10:39] Action: netrunner is currently rolling out rocklinux in russia :)
[10:40] <blindcoder> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/viewrep/~tarball=zip/ROCKLinux/trunk/trunk.zip
[10:40] <blindcoder> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/viewrep/~tarball=tgz/ROCKLinux/trunk/trunk.tgz
[10:40] <blindcoder> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/viewrep/~tarball=tbz2/ROCKLinux/trunk/trunk.tbz2
[10:40] <blindcoder> :)
[10:41] <netrunner> th: as long as we don't do marketing we must rely on the targetgroup be similar to the rock-developer community.
[10:41] <netrunner> maybe we should think about subsystems of rock and assign them to developers.
[10:42] <blindcoder> okay, maybe we shouldn't use fisheye as a direct backend for that
[10:42] <th> netrunner: it's not "as long as we don't do marketing" it's "as long as we dont want users"
[10:43] <th> blindcoder: hehehe
[10:43] <blindcoder> at least not until there have been more speed improvements
[10:45] <netrunner> btw, I notice we have a lot of repositories of people whom I have never seen or heard of ... michiel, daniel ...
[10:47] <blindcoder> daniel is nookie
[10:48] <blindcoder> michiel I don't remember right now
[10:53] Action: netrunner installing new kdebase
[10:53] <netrunner> let's see if that really works that cool.
[10:54] <blindcoder> http://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/TopicsCCC2005
[10:55] <th> blindcoder: thanks!
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[10:59] <blindcoder> you're welcome :)
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[11:03] <netrunner> interesting. now I have media:/
[11:08] <blindcoder> I always had it
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[11:23] <blindcoder> humm
[11:23] <blindcoder> how to remove wax stains from a glass plate?
[11:23] <owl> blindcoder: erhitzen...
[11:23] <owl> is it (glass plate) removable?
[11:23] <blindcoder> yes
[11:24] <blindcoder> but large and heavy
[11:24] <owl> well. hot water (very hot!)
[11:24] <blindcoder> humm
[11:24] <owl> hrm. desk?
[11:24] <blindcoder> good idea
[11:24] <blindcoder> yeah
[11:24] <blindcoder> "tischplatte"
[11:25] <owl> hrm. desk. desk is a bit problematic :) hrm. what about a large lightener? and then - if it's hot enough: kuechenrolle, wachs aufsaugen... -> longer process, but should work
[11:27] <blindcoder> lightener?
[11:27] <blindcoder> feuerzeug?
[11:28] <owl> yeah. or something larger.
[11:28] <blindcoder> don't have something larger
[11:29] <owl> tsssss. bad. hrm. 
[11:31] <owl> anyway. have to go to the dentis now. *cries* 
[11:31] <owl> +t
[11:31] <owl> bye
[11:31] <blindcoder> bye
[11:48] <netrunner> blindcoder: it looks weird quoting yourself in your sig.
[11:49] <blindcoder> I can't help it, I like what I say
[11:50] <daja77> hehe
[11:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: disabled that sig
[11:51] <netrunner> *rofl* http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,384052,00.html
[11:53] <blindcoder> HAH
[11:53] <blindcoder> finally!
[11:54] <blindcoder> it's finally proven that it's women who make us poor men have sex with them!
[11:55] <th> they pay quite ok for it.
[11:56] <blindcoder> o_O
[11:56] <daja77> that could have been the best dream you'll ever have ...
[11:59] <blindcoder> hehe
[11:59] <blindcoder> I've had enough strange dreams recently...
[12:01] Action: netrunner doesn't want to know details
[12:01] <th> how can bash produce a range of ints?
[12:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: I wouldn't have told you
[12:02] <blindcoder> th: seq
[12:02] <th> blindcoder: thanks
[12:02] <blindcoder> for x in `seq 1 10`
[12:02] <th> jo
[12:13] <netrunner> daja77: I looked at kdebase.log and have not seen anything related to firewire. what was the issue you've seen there?
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[13:12] <madtux> hello
[13:15] <daja77> hi miguel
[13:15] <blindcoder> moin madtux 
[13:17] <madtux> how are u guys?
[13:17] <blindcoder> ill :(
[13:17] <daja77> fine, I am off for lunch in some minutes
[13:19] <madtux> lunch?! its 6am 
[13:19] <daja77> after 1pm here ;)
[13:19] <madtux> :P
[13:20] <madtux> blindcoder, whats wrong? "sexual overflow" ?
[13:21] <blindcoder> pff, hardly
[13:21] <blindcoder> nah, got the flu or something
[13:21] <madtux> uff sucks
[13:21] <blindcoder> coughing, sneezing, headache
[13:21] <blindcoder> slight temperature
[13:21] <blindcoder> the whole fscking program :(
[13:27] <esden> I will not survive this weekend!
[13:28] <esden> blindcoder: get well soon!
[13:28] <esden> or I will visit you and take care of you ;)
[13:29] <blindcoder> esden: urgs
[13:29] <blindcoder> esden: I'll get well, I promise!
[13:29] <blindcoder> esden: what's up this weekend?
[13:30] <blindcoder> and: I need a place where I can make good setups for pictures :(
[13:30] <blindcoder> esden: http://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/2005-11-10_Swords/size/640x480_swords01.png.jpg
[13:37] <madtux> blindcoder, there are several good places for that in .cr
[13:38] <madtux> esden, go visit blindy and take him some chicken soup
[13:38] <madtux> ;)
[13:41] <esden> wooot nice picuter!!
[13:41] <esden> picture even
[13:41] <esden> blindcoder: one thing ... be carefull with teh background
[13:41] <blindcoder> madtux: 700+ Euro for the flight
[13:41] <blindcoder> esden: yeah, but I can't move the table nor the couch
[13:42] <esden> it would help in this case if you would hang black material in the background
[13:42] <blindcoder> hmm
[13:42] <blindcoder> I'll think of something
[13:42] <esden> I will not survive this weekend if I do not get my cam tomorrow!
[13:43] <blindcoder> maybe a stand made of wood and colored black to get a solid black background
[13:43] <esden> yes that would help
[13:43] <blindcoder> esden: hehe, the D50?
[13:43] <esden> blindcoder: yes
[13:43] <blindcoder> esden: when should you have gotten it?
[13:43] <esden> it should be there tomorrow or saturday ... or monday ... >_<
[13:44] <blindcoder> hehe
[13:44] <blindcoder> I'll probably get the spare parts for my coffee machine tomorrow
[13:44] <madtux> just put ur megatokyo blanket in the back
[13:44] <blindcoder> finally I can have good coffee again!
[13:44] <esden> and I also should get the money for it on my account so I can pay the rest of the price
[13:44] <blindcoder> madtux: problem: it's blue/white and I can't hang it up
[13:45] <madtux> get some girls to strip and stand in the back then...
[13:45] <blindcoder> I'll get some wood plates next week and build something from them and paint them black
[13:45] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA
[13:45] <esden> blindcoder: you can also paint it white ... white background is also nice
[13:45] <esden> then you see the swords better
[13:45] <blindcoder> esden: wood has two sides :)
[13:45] <esden> also a fill light is helpfull
[13:45] <madtux> gimp can fix the background for u
[13:46] <blindcoder> so I can just get black and white spray color
[13:46] <esden> to get the objects lighted correctly
[13:46] <blindcoder> madtux: what about the reflection on the table?
[13:46] <esden> blindcoder: good idea
[13:46] <madtux> gimp can fix that for u
[13:46] <esden> you also can shoot a picture from more above and then you have the whole flower reflection in the frame
[13:46] <esden> is also an idea
[13:46] <esden> I like the reflection
[13:46] <madtux> :)
[13:48] <blindcoder> hmm, yeah
[13:48] <blindcoder> I'll try that later
[13:48] <blindcoder> problem is that I need a 1/4 sec exposure and I'm too shaky to hold the cam still that long
[13:51] <esden> you need a tripod for that
[13:51] <esden> but you can also use a table with a "kopfkissen" to point your camera
[13:51] <blindcoder> yeah
[13:51] <blindcoder> how much are tripods?
[13:52] <esden> 18Eur 20Eur?
[13:52] <esden> but I can check ... one moment
[13:56] <esden> urgh there are tripods for 200 eur 
[13:56] <esden> that is insane
[13:56] <blindcoder> ouch
[13:58] <esden> http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002W6E56/wwwmentasyde-21/ref%3Dnosim/302-2304973-8708062
[13:58] <esden> 13eur from hama
[13:58] <esden> you really do not need a mannfoto tripod
[13:58] <esden> you get the hama tripods at saturn
[14:00] <blindcoder> ah, nice
[14:01] <netrunner> mine is very inefficient.
[14:01] <blindcoder> how so?
[14:01] <netrunner> I accidently run mine -r as normal user. after one minute I still had no error message.
[14:02] <blindcoder> uh
[14:02] <netrunner> means it was still busy reading in some files.
[14:02] <netrunner> now while removing 2 packages it is eating about 20m of memory
[14:02] <netrunner> oh, still growing :)
[14:04] <netrunner> 43m
[14:04] <netrunner> so let's say minimum requirement for rock is a system with >64MB :)
[14:05] <blindcoder> mhm
[14:12] <th> do you think 64MB is enough to extract 43MB to a tmpfs?
[14:12] <netrunner> let's be future safe and require 1GB
[14:13] <th> agreed
[14:13] <netrunner> our vncserver is unusable. it dumps core.
[14:15] <blindcoder> ups
[14:19] <blindcoder> hm
[14:19] <blindcoder> guess I'll get myself that tripo
[14:19] <blindcoder> d
[14:19] <blindcoder> because next week there's "Kendo Einzelmeisterschaft" here in Berlin
[14:19] <blindcoder> and I want to take pics there
[14:49] <esden> blindcoder: you have comments ;)
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[14:49] <blindcoder> ooh my gawd
[14:50] Action: blindcoder swallows esden whole to flush him through his stomach
[14:50] <esden> urgh!
[14:52] <esden> damn eggdrop ... how do I controle that biatch
[14:53] <nookie__> lol esden 
[14:57] <esden> ahh here it is
[14:59] <esden> cool ... biotr revived ;)
[14:59] <blindcoder> you don't
[14:59] <blindcoder> it controls you
[14:59] <esden> urgh ... it does?
[15:00] <blindcoder> it's why it's banned from every good irc network
[15:03] <nookie__> what is kendo, blindcoder?
[15:04] <blindcoder> nookie__: hard to say, but it looks a lot like swordfighting
[15:05] <nookie__> ah
[15:05] <nookie__> cool
[15:05] <blindcoder> yeah, and I hate it that I can't attend training today
[15:05] <blindcoder> because I have the nekt kendo exam coming up
[15:06] <nookie___> why can't you attend training?
[15:07] <blindcoder> because I'm sick in bed :(
[15:07] <nookie___> ohh
[15:07] <nookie___> gute Besserung :)
[15:08] <blindcoder> danke :)
[15:08] <daja77> http://www.xcrew.de/images/frankreich.jpg
[15:08] <nookie___> lol
[15:09] <nookie___> http://home.online.no/~janbagg/IntroToPlDirectorsCut.wmv :D
[15:09] <nookie___> funny video
[15:10] <nookie___> or well
[15:10] <nookie___> not funny
[15:10] <nookie___> but the differences are funny
[15:12] <blindcoder> daja77: o_O
[15:15] <blindcoder> break a leg!
[15:15] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[15:32] <owl> sigh. 
[15:32] <owl> re
[15:33] <madtux> SED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:33] <owl> hi madtux 
[15:33] Action: madtux gives a bear hug to owlita
[15:34] <daja77>  /bin/sed ?
[15:34] <madtux> daja77, sed also stands for Sandra Eule Dismar
[15:34] <daja77> and for sozialistische einheitspartei deutschlands
[15:34] Action: daja77 hides
[15:35] <netrunner> owl /ist/sed :)
[15:35] <madtux> *g*
[15:35] <madtux> hello netty
[15:35] <netrunner> lowlita? :)
[15:35] <owl> madtux: thx. :/ how are you?
[15:35] <netrunner> hi maddy
[15:35] <madtux> owl, doing great thanks.. u?
[15:36] <owl> madtux: feeling horrible. my fscking teeth are aching
[15:36] <owl> i even can't open my mouth completely O_O
[15:37] <owl> shit. have to go again. fscking stressing day
[15:41] <madtux> why don;t u just take them all out... that way they will never "Ach" again
[15:41] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:44] <madtux> makes sence right blindy
[15:44] <madtux> ?
[15:45] <blindcoder> sure, what isn't there can't hurt
[15:46] <madtux> yeah... do that... blindy and i will buy a delicious stake afterwards to celebrate the aching is gone
[15:46] <madtux> obviously u will get the biggest stake
[15:46] <madtux> :)
[15:47] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:48] <madtux> oh we are so nice people... aren;t we ?
[15:50] <blindcoder> of course
[15:50] <blindcoder> it's because we're great :)
[15:50] <madtux> :)
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[17:03] <owl> well. i have already some "dead" teeth... 
[17:03] <owl> but now: awaya again.
[17:03] <madtux> owl, just take them all out
[17:03] <blindcoder> same here
[17:04] <owl> madtux: *kick*
[17:04] <madtux> MWAHAHHA
[17:04] <owl> so. bye
[17:04] <madtux> owl, ... i do primisse ur teeth won't hurt again
[17:05] <madtux> oh come.. just teasing
[17:18] <netrunner> can I give a reference to a method in c++? 
[18:52] <esden> *yawn* ... woot I slept well ;)
[18:52] <esden> good morning everyone ;)
[18:53] <blindcoder> moin moin
[18:55] <esden> madtux: one should take owl all her teeth out ... this way she can not bite anymore ... and she is speaking funny ;)
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[18:56] <blindcoder> MUAHAHA
[18:56] <blindcoder> esden: she'd get a fake set of teeth made from diamond
[18:56] <blindcoder> she'd just bite right through your hand
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[19:01] <madtux> esden, like if u didn't like it when she bites you or speaks funny close to ur ear
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[21:21] <blindcoder> http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
[21:21] <blindcoder> oh, damn :(
[21:21] <blindcoder> what am I now gonna do with my tinfoil hat collection for every occasion?
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[22:17] <owl> re
[22:23] <nookie_> hmm
[22:33] Action: esden has been stopped by police while making photographs ... they wanted to know what I am doing ... :)
[22:34] Action: daja77 had a nice chat with the police today
[22:35] <esden> daja77: about?
[22:35] <daja77> about a woman that blocked my parking lot ;)
[22:36] <esden> aha? ... did she get away?
[22:36] <daja77> after some discussion she left ;)
[22:36] <owl> esden: which pics did you shoot? 
[22:37] <esden> owl: some pics of an entrance of a industry complex near by
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[22:40] <owl> re
[22:40] <esden> re
[22:40] <esden> owl: did you get my answer?
[22:40] <owl> esden: nope. sorry. 
[22:41] <esden> owl: some pics of an entrance of a industry complex near by
[22:41] <owl> esden: ah. i c. the red tree? ;)
[22:43] <esden> owl: that is an old one ... the story with police was some minutes ago ... I have to download the images from the camera 
[22:43] <esden> owl: that is an old one ... the story with police was some minutes ago ... I still have to download the images from the camera 
[22:43] <esden> I should have shot an image of the police car
[22:43] <esden> >_<
[22:44] <owl> esden: nah, i mean the industry complex... 
[22:44] <owl> hehe. 
[22:45] <esden> owl: yes the red tree is in front of gabor ... yes ... I shot some more images in front of that
[22:45] <esden> but not of the tree
[22:45] <owl> ;p that i meant
[22:46] <owl> sigh. even yawning aches... 
[22:48] <owl> btw, got my fotos of my old "analog-spiegelreflex" today
[22:48] <esden> ohh cool do you have scans online?
[22:51] <owl> nah, not yet. will make some scans tomorrow - if my dentist doesn't feel the need to bother me..
[22:54] <esden> owl: I hope to see them!
[22:55] <owl> esden: yeah, sure - it's just a question of time
[22:55] <esden> owl: good! ;)
[22:55] <esden> god ... #photoblogs.org is so damn high traffic!
[22:56] <netrunner> ha, finally network in dorms. 
[22:56] <owl> hrm. a problem for you? :)
[22:58] <owl> hrm. i hear my bed whispering "you want to sleep, human-being"... i guess i will follow those voices. gn8
[23:05] <esden> n8 owl 
[23:07] <netrunner> where goes the back-traffic trough iptables when masqueraded? FORWARD?
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