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[01:20] <demian> hi
[01:48] <madtux> Demian?!
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[02:04] <demian> bye
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[04:53] <madtux> re
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[06:34] <netrunner> moin
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[07:31] <blindcoder> daja77: I've just made the registration
[07:32] <blindcoder> daja77: I've been generous and registered 10 seats
[07:32] <blindcoder> daja77: we'll see if we get the space...
[07:38] <esden> moin
[07:40] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[07:40] Action: blindcoder is getting more and more frustrated with 22C3
[07:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: why?
[07:46] <blindcoder> netrunner: hackcenter only half the size of last year
[07:48] <blindcoder> netrunner: add to this the doubled entry fee and the one-day-longer and this year totally sucks
[07:48] <blindcoder> I'll have to shell out the money for a four-day ticket but will only stay 3
[07:49] <blindcoder> if my employer wouldn't pay 22c3 I wouldn't even be there
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[07:51] <blindcoder> anyway, time to head to work
[07:51] <blindcoder> bye
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[08:56] <netrunner> *ff1.5download*
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[09:59] Action: [raphael] is back
[09:59] <[raphael]> moin moin
[10:03] <daja77> hi [raphael] could you perhaps disable the public away messages
[10:09] <th> that would be nice
[10:10] <[raphael]> ok, so... I better should sign off at that time?
[10:14] <th> no
[10:15] <th> just dont announce your away status with messages
[10:15] <th> whoever is interested in that information can read your away status, which you can set with /away
[10:18] <[raphael]> th .... ok, just found that option in KSirc, I turned it off
[10:18] <th> cool
[11:08] <blindcoder> re
[11:16] <netrunner> argl. ff1.5 fails in some gnomevfs subsystem.
[11:19] <blindcoder> hooray for gnome *waves a foot*
[11:21] <blindcoder> anyway, lunch
[11:21] <netrunner> oh, found possible solution.
[11:28] <daja77> blindcoder: I just updated gnome to 2.12.1 need a patch?
[11:37] <owl> moin
[11:38] <owl> sigh. sigh. sigh. *sitting at customers place*
[11:48] <netrunner> daja77: submit :)
[11:48] Action: netrunner has read somewhere that kde has no future ...
[11:49] <daja77> i even downloaded kde 3.5 yesterday
[11:49] <daja77> i currently running build tests with both updates
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[11:50] <netrunner> cool. I started with updating qt, but had no time any more ...
[11:50] <daja77> netrunner: I thought testing would be quite good, already had to tweak some gnome packages, as ususal
[11:50] <daja77> hm new qt?
[11:51] <netrunner> 4.0.1, which you will need for kde 3.5 ...
[11:52] <daja77> sure?
[11:53] <daja77> Qt >= 3.3.2 is required
[11:54] <netrunner> hmok. but 4.0.1 is out and now gpl.
[11:54] <daja77> so i guess 3.3.5 is better atm
[11:54] <netrunner> so our since ever wrong L tag would be correct :)
[11:54] <daja77> l tag?
[11:54] <netrunner> license tag of qt. we have gpl there which is not true.
[11:55] <netrunner> it is true with 4.x :)
[11:55] <daja77> ah ok
[11:55] <daja77> 3.3.x was gpl too
[11:56] <netrunner> I do not thin so. they still have the qpl, which forbids selling of products linked to qt. which is not gpl compatible.
[11:57] Action: daja77 shrugs
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[12:06] <blindcoder> IIRC it was dual licensed for linux
[12:09] <netrunner> dual license is "build something for free and opensource" or "buy our license and sell what you programmed"
[12:09] <netrunner> bbl
[12:11] <blindcoder> yeah
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[15:53] Action: owl prepares breakfast *aetz*
[15:53] <blindcoder> re
[15:53] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[15:54] <blindcoder> moin owl
[15:54] <owl> hi blindcoder . lalalalalala. i got another "auftraege" :))))
[15:55] <owl> and now - breakfast in some minutes- hopefully my "fruehlingsrollen", chicken are not black... and hopefully the soup will be ok
[15:55] <owl> (if not, i will die)
[15:56] <blindcoder> heh
[15:56] <owl> not funny. 
[15:56] <owl> *sniff*
[15:58] <blindcoder> awww
[15:58] <blindcoder> it'll be fine ;)
[15:59] <owl> i hope so
[16:00] <owl> ARGH. it _CANT_ be black. it was still not inserted into the pfanne
[16:01] <owl> sigh. i am a coder, not a cook. why is there no roboter cooking for me?
[16:03] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:03] <blindcoder> cooking is easy
[16:03] <blindcoder> you just have to devote to it like you would to coding
[16:09] <owl> pffff. it's hard. normally i am forgetting to turn of the "herd" - and my food turns into black-something....
[16:11] <blindcoder> that's why you stay in the kitchen while cooking
[16:11] <blindcoder> you don't walk away from your keyboard while you're tying, either
[16:12] <mnemoc> *G*
[16:12] <owl> hehe. keyboard != cooking. 
[16:12] <clifford> blindcoder: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005113016115210360
[16:12] <clifford> ... did you actually TEST your bootdisk changes?
[16:12] <owl> i am too bored about seeing how my food turnes into something "looking eatble"
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[16:14] <treo> hallo
[16:14] <blindcoder> clifford: yes, I did, and I found them working
[16:15] <daja77> yeah I built firefox 1.5 on rock
[16:16] <clifford> blindcoder: do do now and it doesn't work here. at least not without some fixes..  ;-)
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[16:17] <owl> gnarf. black chicken i have
[16:17] <blindcoder> clifford: yeah I've seen it, and it's strange to me.
[16:18] <clifford> how did you test?
[16:18] <blindcoder> built bootdisk and a generic-minimal, booted in vmware and started the 2nd stage
[16:18] <blindcoder> so, until the "partition your disks" prompt, I think
[16:19] <clifford> ok. the 2nd bug is something you havent seen then.
[16:19] <clifford> did it really boot without any prompts into stone?
[16:20] <blindcoder> yes
[16:21] <clifford> funny. this is not possible with the scripts as I have them here..
[16:21] <daja77> it did for me too
[16:23] <blindcoder> also, I fail to see how load_ramdisk_file cdroms 1 would work...
[16:23] <blindcoder> it would try to load from FLOPPF
[16:23] <blindcoder> it would try to load from FLOPPY
[16:23] <clifford> blindcoder: is it possible that you are looking at another source than I do?
[16:23] <blindcoder> let me svn up
[16:24] <blindcoder> hmm, yes
[16:24] <blindcoder> it was modified since I submitted it
[16:24] <blindcoder> seems "someone" forgot to change the rest, too
[16:26] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005111411170514130
[16:26] <clifford> fake screwed it up! gotya!
[16:26] <blindcoder> yeah ;)
[16:26] <blindcoder> http://fisheye.rocklinux.org/viewrep/ROCKLinux/trunk/target/bootdisk/linuxrc.sh?r=6536
[16:26] <blindcoder> that's the version I submitted
[16:27] <blindcoder> anyway, gotta head to my ROCK Linux / LVP talk now
[16:27] <blindcoder> bbl
[16:27] <clifford> cu
[16:28] <daja77> clifford: I am testing gnome and kde updates with gcc4 atm, if you'll start a new reference build I could upload them also now
[16:29] <clifford> daja77: I still have a ref buil running.
[16:29] <clifford> >>> 3096 builds total, 2703 completed fine, 9 with errors.
[16:29] <clifford> .. looks like you have got some time until I start the next one.  ;-)
[16:29] <daja77> i had over 70 errors with the old gnome/gtk and gcc4
[16:30] <daja77> good ;)
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[17:04] <demian> hi
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[18:06] <demian> a nice web based tool to browse subversion logs and revisions? it would be cool it could show the code syntax coloured.
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[18:15] <madtux> hello
[18:15] <owl> hi madtux 
[18:15] <daja77> hi miguel
[18:15] <madtux> owlita... Danny Boy :)
[18:16] <demian> hi madtux 
[18:17] <madtux> d3bian!
[18:17] <madtux> :)
[18:17] <daja77> hrhr
[18:17] <demian> still continuing with that... :-/
[18:17] <madtux> 2 days in a row... its nice to see u around my friend
[18:18] <madtux> demian: come on... u know i only do it to tease you... besides it kinda makes me hard to forget
[18:18] <th> .oO( makes him hard... )
[18:20] <madtux> th: i am doing quite good thanks for asking.. how about urself?
[18:20] <madtux> ;-)
[18:20] <owl> gnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarf. what exactly is not understandable in "this project is non-commercial and we're not willed to have advertisment on our site"? 
[18:23] <madtux> owl: maybe u want to add something like "however you can send us $100 EU along with a filled copy of our form for 'reconsiderations' and will indeed reconsider it and get back to you within 4 business days, please note that the money is not refundable, it is ment to cover the administrative charges"
[18:25] <owl> madtux: nah. it's a real person not sending spam, and contacted me because i am owning a horse-portal (www.pferdesportfreunde.de)
[18:26] <madtux> no mind... do that... either they go away or pay you for bugging
[18:26] <madtux> ask th 
[18:26] <th> hmm?
[18:27] <owl> huh? O_O
[18:27] <th> y?
[18:27] <madtux> :)
[18:30] <madtux> just kidding guys
[18:30] <madtux> i am a bit bored today i need to findmyself some entertainment
[18:31] <daja77> hehe
[18:32] <madtux> daja77: do u have some ideas? :)
[18:32] <daja77> drink some beer
[18:32] <madtux> i know u are evil enough to come up with something
[18:32] <madtux> come on u can do better than that..
[18:32] <daja77> poke esden
[18:32] <madtux> besides i got to be at the office in 2 hours...
[18:33] Action: madtux pokes esden's eye with a stick
[18:33] <daja77> good boy
[18:33] <madtux> ;-)
[18:33] <demian> i do drink beer most of time.
[18:34] <daja77> this is not healthy
[18:34] <demian> it puts my head right ahead to start coding well.
[18:34] <madtux> demian: you don't have to meet with the board directors in 2 hours..
[18:34] <demian> i cant imagine me working hard without drinking beer. that gives me a lot of power.
[18:35] <daja77> hm
[18:35] <madtux> i settle to jolt. beer and pizza (optional) are to be used when i meet with friends.. specially at congresses :)
[18:35] <demian> once i drank, and then started coding.. after seeing the results.. my performance coding improved.
[18:36] Action: daja77 acks madtux 
[18:36] <demian> and therefore.. when things get difficult.. beers appear and rescues me.
[18:36] <daja77> you are screwed
[18:37] <madtux> yeah u are so fscked.
[18:37] <madtux> i need nothing but music to keep me focused and productive
[18:38] <demian> dunt think so. though i never got drunk, just necessary, and only in cases when my body is tired and cant produce anymore.
[18:41] <madtux> just a moment ago u said "11:49 < demian> i do drink beer most of time."
[18:41] <madtux> don't cover urself now.. we got u logged
[18:41] <madtux> :)
[18:43] <demian> jaja. well. i must admit last days i drank every day. i was doing final uni works and pressed with some projects and the work.. my body cries blood when this used to happen.
[18:44] <madtux> hehe
[18:44] <madtux> well let me tell ya.. i do consider u my friend.. o let me know anytime u are in town and we will meet to go for some beers and pizza (optional)
[18:45] <demian> ja. ok. but i am very busy atm. maybe on january. i have lots of comprimises.. i dunt see my family since 4 months ago.
[18:45] <demian> and i used to travel every week.
[18:46] <madtux> i remember
[18:47] <madtux> well.. i am busy ... but word of advice... do not let your job consume u
[18:47] <madtux> :)
[18:47] <madtux> not healthy for you.
[18:47] <daja77> madtux has some experience on this i guess
[18:48] <madtux> daja77: more than i would actually like. but this is not happening any more :)
[18:48] <madtux> i have learned my lesson
[18:49] <demian> madtux: the job.. it is fine, they "me chinean".. it's the uni and external projects i am considering.
[18:49] <madtux> external projects should be left behind ... ur priorities should be your healt, uni and work.
[18:49] <madtux> sides jobs will be there whn u graduate :)
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[18:52] <demian> but need money! the important thing!
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[20:01] <blindcoder> re
[20:03] <esden> bopp
[20:06] <demian> blindy, esden.
[20:12] Action: blindcoder is HUNGRY
[20:19] Action: esden is also hungry
[20:19] Action: esden making a pizza ...
[20:19] <daja77> laready had one
[20:24] <blindcoder> I'm waiting for certain people to et going 
[20:24] <blindcoder> oh it, seems, they're done
[20:24] <blindcoder> bbl
[20:24] <esden> cu
[20:33] <owl> ARGH:          <td class="smallText" ><?php echo SHOPBETREIBER . '&nbsp;*' . SHOPSTRASSE . '&nbsp;*' . SHOPSTADT ; ?></td>
[20:33] Action: owl shots herself seeing and modifing this """code"""
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[21:01] <madtux> re
[21:01] <owl> wb madtux 
[21:01] <madtux> thx Sandrita
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