[00:08] <clifford> http://www.rocklinux.net/checkver/
[00:08] <clifford> .. I just sent a mail to the ML about it.
[00:09] <clifford> and now I need to catch the last subway..
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[00:13] <daja77> cu
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[00:25] <daja77> argl
[00:25] <daja77> the tar contains no subdir
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[00:38] <netrunner> http://www.oper.ru/flash/view.php?flash_id=12
[00:38] <netrunner> I cannot listen to the sound, but the graphics are cool :)
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[13:12] <madtux> hi
[13:12] <daja77> moin miguel
[13:13] <madtux> hi danny
[13:15] <blindcoder> moin madtux
[13:15] <blindcoder> madtux: btw, I now know what you mean by hot costarican women :D
[13:17] <daja77> you touched some?
[13:21] <blindcoder> hehe
[13:21] <blindcoder> no, but I met one
[13:22] <daja77> ah :)
[13:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: btw, how was your turnament?
[13:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: http://blog.crash-override.net/index.php/50
[13:24] <blindcoder> daja77: she's doing Kendo at the same dojo as I do :D
[13:27] <madtux> blindcoder, hehehe.
[13:27] <madtux> blindy pic?
[13:27] <blindcoder> let's see, maybe
[13:29] <clifford> blindcoder: Error: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js: TypeError: Undefined value
[13:29] <blindcoder> no good one
[13:29] <clifford> .. that's the JS Error I'm getting for http://blog.crash-override.net/index.php/50 ..
[13:29] <blindcoder> humm
[13:29] <blindcoder> oh
[13:31] <blindcoder> madtux: no good pic
[13:31] <madtux> blindcoder, Hint: next time she ask you "how are you?" just say "Pura Vida" she will have a possitive reaction
[13:33] <blindcoder> madtux: meaning what?
[13:34] <netrunner> "f*ck me here and now"
[13:34] <netrunner> :)
[13:34] <blindcoder> clifford: can you try again? I think I found and fixed the error
[13:34] <blindcoder> netrunner: probably :)
[13:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: dmmount.sh always mounts my ext2 as ext3
[13:35] <madtux> blindcoder, its just the very original way of greetings we use here
[13:36] <madtux> she will get much more interested in u with that as it will be totally unexpected
[13:36] <madtux> then again.. thats IF you want to get her attention
[13:36] <blindcoder> netrunner: it mounts it as what mount detects
[13:36] <madtux> netrunner, don't make those proposals to blindcoder in public... unless u really want to be blogged
[13:37] <madtux> *VBEG*
[13:37] <netrunner> madtux: I guess "vida" is something about life, and "pura" is good, clear ?
[13:37] <madtux> netrunner, u could translate it to "Pure Life" but it doesn't really have any sence.... trust me.. only here it would any real meaning
[13:38] <blindcoder> here's one pic of her, but it's not that good http://blog.crash-override.net/kendo/cgi-bin/index.sh?id=2005-12-02_Kokugikan_Weihnachtsfeier;range=00;view=dscf0014.jpg
[13:38] <netrunner> madtux: see, I am truly polyglott :)
[13:38] <netrunner> madtux: it sounds similar to "live long and prosper" :)
[13:38] <madtux> netrunner, could be yeah
[13:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: which of the 2,5?
[13:39] <netrunner> :)
[13:39] <madtux> netrunner, it will be fun to see u interpretting things when u come over.
[13:40] <netrunner> madtux: currently counting money. I'll wayt what christmas does to my balance.
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[16:50] <demian> hi
[16:51] <blindcoder> moin demian 
[17:21] <clifford> netrunner: have you tried the checkver thing again? does it work now flawlessly?
[17:23] <blindcoder> clifford: does there really need to be so much javascript?
[17:23] <blindcoder> I know ajax is all the hype right now, but I still don't think it's justified
[17:25] <clifford> blindcoder: who came up with this "AJAX" thing? I've done this already before there was this name for it..
[17:25] <blindcoder> clifford: and I've been doing wikis back in '99 :P
[17:25] <clifford> .. btw: I'm doing raw http queries. so technically it is not ajax. *g*
[17:26] <blindcoder> I haven't really looked into what constitutes "AJAX" other than cleaning powder
[17:26] <blindcoder> because I think the very idea is dangerous on multiple levels
[17:27] <daja77> aaargh why does gnome depend on crap software like openjade
[17:27] <blindcoder> *cough* KDE *cough* Linus *cough*
[17:27] <clifford> and I did not use javascript because there is a hype about it but because I think that it is easy to implement and fast to use this way.
[17:28] <daja77> blindcoder: that does not helpme atm ;)
[17:28] <blindcoder> clifford: yeah, and I need to open a gui browser for it :P
[17:29] <clifford> no. you can download the .tar.gz and run it on your local machine.
[17:29] <clifford> then you don't need any frontend..
[17:29] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[17:30] <clifford> and I'm thinking about extracting the package list from the html file and putting it in a seperate file which is loaded by the javascript part.
[17:30] <daja77> clifford: it works for packages that put their updates in the same directory, right?
[17:30] <blindcoder> well, I probably won't use it much (like submaster) but it's nice to know it's there ;)
[17:30] <clifford> that way you could even write a native commandline client.
[17:30] <clifford> daja77: it works out of the box for such packages.
[17:31] <clifford> other need some help (e.g. bind or gcc, which do have a directory per release)
[17:31] <clifford> I wanted to write the descriptions for at least some base packages today, but I've lost the connection to murphy (my development host)
[17:32] <daja77> the gnome scheme is worse, they use the first two parts of the version as directory index
[17:32] <clifford> I think they turned off the power in my old flat where the server is still standing around.
[17:32] <clifford> daja77: mom..
[17:34] <clifford> yea. gnome is a difficult example.
[17:34] <clifford> some packages have a nice 'download' section on theyr webpage with direct links to the source files. then checkver can use this page. but gnome does not seam to have such a thing.
[17:35] <daja77> sort of
[17:35] <daja77> they have three download pages, one for platform source and so on, the problem is that these pages are not complete
[17:35] <daja77> but i had another idea
[17:41] <blindcoder> don't you just love conflicting information...
[17:42] <blindcoder> "I want mirroring and backup. Oh, and please order _one_ SCSI Controller"
[17:42] <blindcoder> AARRGGHH! That's one... bus... SHORT!
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[18:32] <clifford> ok. I think the CheckVersion frontend is more or less finished now.
[18:32] <clifford> so I've added a link to the www.rocklinux.net titlebar.
[18:32] <blindcoder> it's getting crowded up there
[18:33] <blindcoder> btw, does anyone actually use flyspray?
[18:33] <blindcoder> from rocklinux?
[18:33] <daja77> could you add my repo?
[18:35] <daja77> I filed a bug in june
[18:36] <blindcoder> last time I checked there were bugs that were around two years and 3 glibc versions old
[18:37] <daja77> they are still in
[18:37] <blindcoder> my point exactly
[18:46] <clifford> daja77: your repository is already in checkver
[18:46] <clifford> .. but your packages are all up to date so I acknowledged everything.
[18:48] <blindcoder> I'm quite sure wesnoth is out of date
[18:49] <clifford> blindcoder: you repository is not is checkver yet.
[18:49] <clifford> should I add it?
[18:49] <blindcoder> sure
[18:50] <blindcoder> I fail to see a reason not to use it for all our packages
[18:51] <clifford> I don't want to add all repositories now to keep the amount of packages waiting for acknowledgements low.
[18:52] <clifford> .. otherwise it would be too frustrating. ;-)
[18:52] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:58] Action: netrunner playing with scons
[18:59] <netrunner> clifford: checkver works for me now in konqueror
[19:18] <clifford> *phew*
[19:19] <clifford> ok. I've now acknowled everything which doesn't need any hands-on now.
[19:20] <clifford> so everything in checkver is eighter outdated or needs additional CV- tags so checkver works with the package.
[19:20] <clifford> total number of packages in checkver: 575
[19:20] <clifford> still open: 282
[19:21] <clifford> with errors (such as "no candidates found): 90
[19:58] Action: clifford is going home now.. cu tomorrow.
[19:59] <blindcoder> bye
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[20:51] <[raphael]> hey there :)
[20:51] <blindcoder> moin
[20:52] <[raphael]> does anyone have a recent build (either generic or desktop)?
[20:52] <[raphael]> does trunk currently compile fine?
[20:52] <blindcoder> sure does :)
[20:52] <blindcoder> clifford makes sure it does
[20:53] <[raphael]> good...
[20:53] <blindcoder> the most recent published build is the CLT one I think
[20:53] <[raphael]> is it on iso.rocklinux.de ?
[20:53] <blindcoder> [raphael]: in fact, there's a proposal to drop the 'stable' and 'unstable' nomenclature
[20:53] <blindcoder> [raphael]: yes
[20:53] <[raphael]> blindcoder: heh :) I can imagine that, since you're using submaster
[20:54] <blindcoder> [raphael]: simply because 'trunk' is usually if not always usable
[20:54] <[raphael]> so there is a "test the changes" phase anyway
[20:54] <blindcoder> well, it's not submaster by itself but how it's being used
[20:54] <blindcoder> indeed :)
[20:54] <[raphael]> ic
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[21:04] <[raphael]> by the way, are system updates already possible with rocklinux?
[21:04] <blindcoder> [raphael]: clifford has already been doing some
[21:04] <blindcoder> [raphael]: but I have no first-hand experience
[21:05] <[raphael]> ok
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[23:19] <daja77> re
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