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[09:07] <netrunner> moin
[09:08] <blindcoder> moin netrunner 
[09:23] <[raphael]> moin
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[10:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: I solved the authentication problem :)
[10:41] <netrunner> ah, damn, no :(
[10:44] <blindcoder> netrunner: huh?
[10:44] <netrunner> still fighting with authentication for my bash gallery
[10:44] <netrunner> I'll now use a guest account
[10:53] <owl> moin
[10:55] <blindcoder> ah
[10:55] <blindcoder> moin owl 
[10:55] Action: blindcoder just bought a new 80 GB HD
[10:55] <blindcoder> for windows XP
[10:56] Action: owl looks choked at blindcoder 
[10:56] <owl> everything ok with you, blindy?! O_O
[10:57] <esden> *cough* *cough* *cough* *cough* ... what? ... blindcoder?
[10:57] <owl> hi esden 
[10:57] <esden> hi owl  
[10:57] Action: esden still coughing
[10:57] Action: esden was eating breakfast
[10:57] <blindcoder> hey, I want to play some games :)
[10:58] <esden> blindcoder: games? ... games are for lamers :P
[10:58] <blindcoder> and they don't work with wine nor cedega
[10:58] <esden> do some leet coding ;)
[10:58] Action: owl gives esden a box of cough drops
[10:58] <esden> thanks owl 
[10:58] <blindcoder> esden: to calm you down, I'm currently downoading the imagingsecrets.com podcasts, too :)
[10:58] <esden> blindcoder: coool! :)
[10:59] <esden> they are really good
[10:59] <owl> blindcoder: *crossing fingers* and which ill game?
[10:59] <blindcoder> and I'll just use half the disk for windows
[10:59] <blindcoder> the other will be used for a fresh ROCK installation
[11:00] <blindcoder> owl: UFO: Aftershock
[11:00] <owl> half of the disk?! WAAAAAAH! 
[11:00] <owl> why half of the disk and not just 10 GB?
[11:00] <owl> sigh. i am hungry
[11:01] <blindcoder> owl: well, imagine, there are games needing more than 50 kB of disk space
[11:03] <blindcoder> oh, and MYST
[11:03] <blindcoder> I also have MYST here
[11:05] <owl> blindcoder: but not sooo much space
[11:06] <blindcoder> owl: 8 GB
[11:06] <blindcoder> myst needs 8 GB, UFO needs ~ 9GB
[11:07] <owl> pardon?! /me's eyes are blopping out of the head
[11:08] <blindcoder> ever heard of graphic and sound?
[11:08] <owl> yeah. but not so much. 
[11:09] <blindcoder> and a long storyline?
[11:09] <owl> and: even visual studio stuff, drivers, image processing sw etc. are less than 8 GB here... 
[11:09] <owl> nope. 
[11:09] <blindcoder> adventure(6) isn't exactly state of the art anymore
[11:09] <owl> it's a game. the only story it tells you is that you have to click somewhere on your screen...
[11:09] <owl> adventure?
[11:09] <blindcoder> huh?
[11:10] <blindcoder> you know, there are other people in the game who tell you stuff
[11:10] <blindcoder> in at least two languages
[11:10] <blindcoder> owl: forget it, you obviously don't want to get it, so I'm not inclined to waste my time here
[11:11] <owl> wonderful. and there is a programmer who makes the install-routines. language-dependent install routines are possible -> just copy the files you need. 
[11:11] <owl> and a game is nothing else like "pixels occouring and answering to your mouse gestures"
[11:11] <owl> yeah. playing is much more wonderful ^^
[11:12] <owl> sigh. i still have hunger (but eating) -> eul: ungeniessbar ;)
[11:31] <blindcoder> ah, the joys of windows activation :(
[11:37] <owl> hihi :p
[11:37] <owl> which win you own? 
[11:38] <blindcoder> xp
[11:38] <blindcoder> pro
[11:39] <owl> ah. ok. .de?
[11:40] <blindcoder> no
[11:40] <blindcoder> english version
[11:41] <owl> O_o
[11:43] <blindcoder> hm?
[11:43] <owl> nust suprised
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[11:44] <blindcoder> huh?
[11:44] <blindcoder> nust?
[11:46] <owl> just
[11:46] <owl> sigh. 
[11:48] <blindcoder> brb, need to buy 'waschmittel'
[11:52] <owl> ff
[12:44] <blindcoder> back
[12:51] <owl> wb
[12:51] <owl> bakc too ;)
[12:51] <blindcoder> http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/articles/gun+safety+tips
[12:51] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[12:56] <owl> pff...
[13:13] <daja77> http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/de/home/cfpro.html
[13:13] <daja77> ..
[13:16] <blindcoder> daja77: want to go there?
[13:16] <daja77> dunno
[14:28] <blindcoder> esden: ping
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[14:52] <esden> blindcoder: pong
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[17:34] <[raphael]> ping anyone who knows what startx is doing
[17:34] <[raphael]> hi *
[17:34] <[raphael]> if I startx with different environment variables, that doesn't fully work
[17:34] <[raphael]> is startx reinitializing some stuff somewhere?
[17:34] <blindcoder> startx is a shellscripts starting X
[17:35] <[raphael]> blindcoder: yes
[17:35] <[raphael]> but,
[17:35] <[raphael]> if I set some stuff in $HOME/.profile then ... sth gets messed up
[17:35] <blindcoder> I set a lot of stuff in .profile
[17:36] <blindcoder> and everything's fine
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[17:38] <[raphael]> blindcoder: but if I set $KDEDIR and try to execute sth from $KDEDIR/bin then it doesn't work
[17:38] <[raphael]> hi annma :)
[17:39] <[raphael]> blindcoder: is startx using the existing environment variables? is it overriding sth?
[17:39] <blindcoder> hmm
[17:39] <blindcoder> it shouldn't overwrite anything
[17:40] <[raphael]> blindcoder: well, at least if I run startx, it tells me that ....
[17:40] <blindcoder> at least here it doesn't
[17:40] <[raphael]> Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation
[17:40] <annma> [raphael]: i did not unsertand what is your exact setting
[17:40] <blindcoder> add set -x to the beginning of startx and check its output
[17:40] <[raphael]> I have compiled my own KDE into a separate directory, that is in /home/kdedev/local/kde35
[17:41] <annma> did you use kdedev for compiling it?
[17:42] <[raphael]> I use the user "raphael" to compile kde and install it into /home/kdedev/local/kde35
[17:42] <annma> so raphael is your kde3.5 user
[17:42] <[raphael]> startx has no meaningful output regarding paths
[17:42] <[raphael]> yes, but I want to run kde35 with the user "kdedev"
[17:43] <annma> then that's why
[17:43] <[raphael]> so owner and user is different (owner of kde35 and the one running kde35)
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[17:43] <annma> i am sure it's just only a permission problem
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[17:53] <[raphael]> what was the last message you got from me?
[17:54] <[raphael]> the last one I got was [17:45:07] <annma> then that's why
[17:54] <blindcoder>  17:45 < [raphael]> so owner and user is different (owner of kde35 and the one running kde35)
[17:54] <netrunner> hah, works :)
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[17:54] <blindcoder> 17:45 < annma> i am sure it's just only a permission problem
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[17:55] <[raphael]> oh... hmm... 
[17:59] <[raphael]> now, brute force, just moving that dir to /opt/kde3, replacing the original kde3
[17:59] <[raphael]> lets see if that works out
[18:00] <blindcoder> why not just update kde3 in rock and using there?
[18:02] <[raphael]> blindcoder: what do you mean by that?
[18:02] <blindcoder> [raphael]: updating the packages in package/kde and re-building that?
[18:02] <[raphael]> I'm using one stable version, KDE 3.5.0 (built with my distribution) and a development version, using the KDE 3.5 branch (including debugging symbols, etc. and all)
[18:03] <[raphael]> KDE 3.5.0 is the latest, I already have that
[18:03] <[raphael]> as stable /opt/kde3
[18:03] <blindcoder> so, I don't see the problem...
[18:03] <[raphael]> I need another development tree, which includes the latest development version and which I can use to do anything with
[18:04] <[raphael]> including -g
[18:04] <[raphael]> which is slower, sth I don't like in my production version
[18:05] <blindcoder> there is a variable to be defined as to where kde should be installed in
[18:06] <[raphael]> blindcoder: where is that?
[18:07] <[raphael]> now... there must be sth fundamentally broken
[18:07] <blindcoder> in scripts/Config
[18:08] <blindcoder> Expert options ==> KDE 3.x Package Options ==> Install prefix for KDE 3.x packages
[18:36] <[raphael]> blindcoder: so... I am thus far: I found out that the kde 3.5 that I built myself is crippled
[18:37] <[raphael]> although there shouldn't be a reason. But the build script I used was the one from FreeBSD, just a little modified, I'll write a script from scratch
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[20:35] <owl> re
[20:36] <blindcoder> wb
[20:37] <owl> thx
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[23:00] <netrunner> urks. Neu! Mit Google werden Ihre Suchergebnisse jetzt aufgrund Ihres Suchprotokolls personalisiert.
[23:00] <blindcoder> oh, cool
[23:01] <blindcoder> they admit creating personal profiles
[23:01] <blindcoder> Do <strike>no</strike> evil
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