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[04:29] Freak (n=freak@dslb-082-083-200-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:16] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:18] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:15] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [08:15] <[raphael]> morning all [08:16] <[raphael]> if anyone is interested, ROCK is now capable of running the Kolab2 groupware server [08:16] <[raphael]> ... reminds me, still have to submit another patch [08:19] <esden> moin [08:42] <blindcoder> moin [08:42] <blindcoder> [raphael]: kolab2? [08:54] <[raphael]> blindcoder: yep [08:54] <[raphael]> blindcoder: moin [08:54] <[raphael]> https://www.kolab.org [08:55] <[raphael]> basically THE groupware server [08:55] <[raphael]> I don't know any alternative [09:00] <blindcoder> we use what used to be SLOX [09:01] <[raphael]> used to be? oh, did novel stop that project? [09:01] <[raphael]> but SLOX only supports the outlook protocol, no? [09:02] <blindcoder> yes, now it's an own company [09:02] <blindcoder> well, I'm using imaps on it [09:02] <[raphael]> ok, so it's not really a good one [09:02] <blindcoder> huh? [09:03] <blindcoder> how is the support of imaps bad? [09:03] <[raphael]> no groupware with anything but outlook clients? [09:03] <[raphael]> that's not bearable in a company setting [09:03] <blindcoder> I really don't get your point right now [09:03] <[raphael]> kolab supports outlook, kontact and other clients (web,...) transparently including groupware (calendar, ...) support [09:04] <blindcoder> we're using slox with mozilla on linux, kmail on linux, outlook on windows [09:04] <[raphael]> that is you can do real groupware with kolab, with any client [09:04] <[raphael]> yes, but you don't get the groupware functionalities [09:04] <[raphael]> with calenders and all [09:04] <blindcoder> including calendar, todo list and all stuff [09:04] <[raphael]> ok, now I get to learn something new: how does that work? [09:05] <blindcoder> document management and whatnot [09:05] <blindcoder> no idea, I'm not responsible for it [09:05] <esden> I hate exams!!! WARGH! [09:05] <blindcoder> but I'm using it just fine [09:05] <blindcoder> esden: HA-HA [09:05] <esden> :P [09:05] <esden> I love you too blindcoder [09:05] <blindcoder> esden: start working you lazy student and you won't have exams in that amount anymore [09:06] <blindcoder> btw, I have kendo exam for go-kyu on Feb 8 [09:06] <esden> I have 9 exams in this and next week [09:06] <esden> that sucks >_< [09:06] <blindcoder> urg [09:06] <blindcoder> I'd rather play some more MYST than that :) [09:07] <esden> go working and earning money you _GAMER_ [09:07] <blindcoder> I _am_ at work :P [09:07] <blindcoder> oh, maybe I should do something for even more inflation in WoW :D [09:07] <esden> then do something productive! [09:07] <blindcoder> brb, need to fax something [09:08] <esden> go fax yourself ;) [09:08] <esden> then we have a serialized blindcoder [09:10] <blindcoder> back [09:12] <[raphael]> blindcoder: what would interest me: what client are you using on linux and is the calendar you use integrated in that client? [09:13] <blindcoder> [raphael]: kmail/kontact [09:13] <blindcoder> [raphael]: and yes [09:14] <blindcoder> okay, guess I gotta work now :) [09:14] <blindcoder> bbl [11:30] <netrunner> [raphael]: is there a webinterface for this kolab thing? [11:32] <netrunner> [raphael]: revised question: is the experimental webinterface usable? [11:37] <[raphael]> netrunner: what kind of web interface, administrative? [11:38] <[raphael]> administrative web interface is fully available [11:38] <[raphael]> webmail (if you mean that) is also available as third party (squirrelmail for example) [11:38] <[raphael]> netrunner: you CAN install horde with kolab2 support, but it's not officially supported [11:38] <[raphael]> or not yet, they're working on stabilizing it [11:48] <netrunner> [raphael]: ah, I understand, I just use any webmail that uses imap or so. [11:59] <[raphael]> netrunner: exactly [12:00] <[raphael]> netrunner: and you can even run any other web page on the same apache [12:00] <[raphael]> basically you have full access to all the components of kolab [12:00] <netrunner> [raphael]: hm. I think for me it is bloat :) I use cyrus/imap + iloahmail now. [12:00] <[raphael]> netrunner: heh, that's the exact same thing that I use for myself - cyrus imap and iloahmail [12:01] <blindcoder> dovecot for me [12:01] <[raphael]> but that doesn't do for a groupware setup of course [12:01] <netrunner> [raphael]: I have long been looking for a useful webmail. I had squirrelmail, then a self-customized version of openwebmail (added folder frame like in squirrel) [12:02] <[raphael]> (although for me it does, since kmail doesn't care whether it's the cyrus from kolab or not, it can store contact/calendar/... data on it nonetheless) [12:02] <netrunner> [raphael]: well, I have it for my girlfriend who is too lazy to use ssh/mutt like I do :) [12:02] <[raphael]> heh :) [12:33] Action: daja77 is too lazy for mutt too [12:53] Action: netrunner is too lazy to use a mouse for mailing. [12:53] <daja77> hm I use the keyboard for kmail ;) [12:54] <netrunner> blindcoder: is there a dovecot demo site? [12:58] <owl> moin [13:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: dovecot is an imap/pop server [13:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: the only one I found that reads mbox file [13:59] <netrunner> aah. [14:59] <daja77> I am working on a patch for vim 6.4, this would be lacking kde gui support, that gui was buggy s i wouldn't miss it and vim 7 will include kde gui again, any objections? [15:00] <daja77> i could add a package for that kde vim clone if you like as well [15:11] <netrunner> who said perl was worse than bash? ${files[$(expr $RANDOM % ${#files[@]})]} [15:33] <[raphael]> bye all, cu Wednesday [15:33] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [15:49] menomc (n=amery@200.75.27.92) joined #rocklinux. [15:49] mnemoc (n=amery@200.75.27.78) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:52] Nick change: menomc -> mnemoc [15:52] ubijtsa (n=ubijtsa@213.208.70.155) joined #rocklinux. [16:47] <owl> re [16:47] <owl> *hibbel* [16:47] <blindcoder> moin owl [16:47] <blindcoder> what's up?L [16:47] <owl> dunno. very, very anxious [16:48] <owl> (even after drivin gabout 200 km) [16:48] <owl> got my tft today :) [16:48] <owl> ordered it in the morning (ok, 10 o clock) and got it at 15:20 [16:48] <owl> ("abholung") [16:48] <blindcoder> nice [16:48] <owl> yep ;) [16:49] <owl> i didn't know that we have a nice hardware-shop near neuburg (about 50 km far away) [16:49] <blindcoder> I have a nice one round the corner :) [16:49] <owl> and: wonder: i have space on my desk now :))) [16:49] <owl> pah. [16:49] <owl> *sniff* [16:50] <owl> but my tux can't sit on the monitor *giggle* [16:50] <blindcoder> awww [16:50] <blindcoder> poor tux [16:50] <daja77> blindcoder: it seems you blog has rss, perhaps you should place a link to it somewhere [16:51] <blindcoder> daja77: that's waht the little icon in the lower right of firefox is for :) [16:52] <blindcoder> daja77: done [16:52] <owl> gnarf. it really would be nice if there was food [16:53] <daja77> blindcoder: ok so I'll add the rss link at my blog page ;) [16:53] <blindcoder> YAY :) [16:53] <daja77> perhaps we should put the rock dev blog links on the homepage [16:54] <daja77> blindcoder: btw, interesting to see how much *you* are blogging as the "i don't know what to write" guy ;) [16:55] <blindcoder> daja77: they used to be there... [16:55] <blindcoder> daja77: pff, it's a braindump :P [16:56] <daja77> sure always [17:04] Action: netrunner updated his blog yesterday :) [17:05] <blindcoder> daja77: can you create a page in the wiki for the blog collection? [17:05] <daja77> oh I have no link of yours [17:05] <daja77> blindcoder: a developer's gallery page? [17:05] <netrunner> hah, now my gallery has directory thumbnails :) [17:05] <blindcoder> daja77: heh, yeah :) [17:06] <daja77> blindcoder: thought about that anyway [17:06] <blindcoder> daja77: the typo3 login still works so you can still pull information from there [17:07] <netrunner> daja77: https://andreas.anvame.net/blog/blosxom.cgi [17:07] <daja77> blindcoder: copy and paste works without the login ;) [17:08] <blindcoder> ah, yeah, it's still accessible at .net/typo3 isn't it? [17:08] <daja77> yes [17:08] <daja77> hm perhaps we have to do sth about the pics [17:08] <daja77> I'll check out when I am home [17:36] <daja77> clifford: ? [18:11] <daja77> wah fedora 5 with gcc 4.1 [18:16] <esden> ROFL ... rene is stirring around again! [18:17] <esden> https://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=06/01/16/1052209 [18:22] <daja77> anonymous coward? [18:23] <esden> It was not me who posted that "Ist das sowas wie rocklinux?" [18:23] <daja77> no I mean the reply [18:23] <esden> It was not me either [18:24] <daja77> guessed that [18:24] <esden> daja77: my post would be not in english ... and it would be not so short ... and it would not be so nice ;) [18:24] <daja77> hehe [18:25] <daja77> well I have no reason to be unpolite [18:25] <esden> so I do not better post anything ... I have no nerve nor time for a flamewar [18:25] <daja77> :) [18:26] <esden> unpolite? who said that I would be unpolite [18:27] <daja77> flaming is not polite in most cases ;) [18:28] <esden> ohh ... you can start a flamewar providing meat to the ones that do get easily nerved ... and we know who would overreact here ... not me for sure ;) [18:28] <esden> and I do not need to be unpolite to start a flamewar [18:29] <daja77> true [18:37] misl (n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl) joined #rocklinux. [18:37] misl (n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl) left #rocklinux. [19:05] Action: esden burning his photo's ;) [19:05] <esden> -' [19:24] <netrunner> esden-impolite? no, he is so polite, they even call him the polish [19:48] <esden> hehe ;) [19:48] <esden> netrunner: and I know that you do not say it ironically because it is true ;) [20:12] <netrunner> bwaaah wuff wuff https://www.netzeitung.de/internet/376669.html [20:13] <daja77> *sigh* [22:04] <esden> boing [22:05] <esden> wie krank!!! [22:05] <esden> das funzt wirklich! [22:05] <esden> erm ... that works really [22:05] <netrunner> yeaaah :) [22:05] <esden> wrong language once more [22:06] <netrunner> another reason not to use php :) [22:06] <esden> I hate php too ... [22:06] <esden> I am writing my site in ruby on rails now ;) [22:06] <netrunner> yes. /me now bas bash gallery. [22:06] <netrunner> tomorrow comes bashwebmail [22:06] <netrunner> and then bashworld :) [22:10] <esden> hehe ;) [22:18] <netrunner> oh, temperature falling. already -7. projected for tomorrow: -20, day after tomorrow: -30 [22:20] <mnemoc> woh [22:20] <mnemoc> i have 36°C :) [22:20] <netrunner> mnemoc: wow, now it feels even colder here :) [22:21] <mnemoc> :D [22:22] <esden> wow ... we have 1 degree here in rosenheim ... [22:22] <esden> amazing [22:22] Action: mnemoc dcc some heat to esden and netrunner [22:23] <esden> mnemoc: thanks [22:23] <esden> *gnarf* [22:23] <netrunner> yeah, roast my floppy :) [22:23] <mnemoc> :) [22:23] <esden> my powerbook has enough heat ... ... my hands never get cold when I sit in front of it ;) [22:24] <mnemoc> i though apple machines were cold [22:24] <mnemoc> my dell notebook is always over 65°C :\ [22:24] <esden> waaaaargh ... blindcoder!!!!!!!!!!! *kill* *kill* *kill* [22:25] <mnemoc> .oO( what did i say? )o [22:25] <esden> damn presets for php in rock! >_< [22:25] <esden> TrueType support missing >_< [22:25] <esden> *GNAAARF* [22:26] <esden> who is responsable ... please stand up! [22:26] Action: stf^rocklinux ducks and covers [22:27] <esden> aaaaha ... stf ... tztztz [22:28] <stf^rocklinux> I didn't do a thing to php, pretty sure :S [22:29] <esden> then why are you covering? ... you have nothing to fear when you are innocent! [22:29] Action: esden waving his LART [22:29] <stf^rocklinux> it was a pure measure of precaution, trying to avoid collateral damage etc... ^^ [22:30] <esden> aha ... you say it now ... measure of precaution ... i see [22:30] <esden> should I invite mathilda? [22:30] <netrunner> esden: well, it is by default off, and rock says it builds packages in default config ... :) [22:31] <netrunner> esden: it also misses gettext. [22:32] <esden> netrunner: yes ... it does ... [22:32] <esden> *sigh* I have to recompile php once more ... [22:32] <esden> wahhh! [22:32] <esden> nooo ... I have no nerve for that [22:32] <esden> I can live with the comment spam untill my new system works [22:32] <esden> >_< [22:37] <netrunner> esden: is there a --disable-eggs? [22:37] <netrunner> esden: I could compile for you if you want... [22:38] <esden> netrunner: no no ... I can live with that ... I do not know what sideeffects the update will have [22:38] <esden> and I do not want my head ripped off by blindcoder [22:46] <stf^rocklinux> btw. how come there's no bootable iso for x86_64 yet? Isn't it possible to cross-build minimal bootstrap isos for all supported architectures e.g. on x86? [22:49] <stf^rocklinux> In other words, has someone tried to cross-build recently? Any success stories? [22:52] <daja77> stf! [22:52] <stf^rocklinux> daja! :) [22:52] <daja77> have to talk to you, but I'd prefer to do it tomorrow [22:54] <stf^rocklinux> fine, I'll be here from 6 p.m. CET [22:54] <stf^rocklinux> or earlier [22:54] <daja77> god [22:54] <daja77> good [22:54] <stf^rocklinux> good god! ^^ [22:54] <daja77> not in the mood now .. [23:52] Action: netrunner walked through kernel config and found some disabled options ... [23:53] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I guess noone tried cross builds. I e.g. have only x86/32 hardware, why should I cross build? :) [23:57] <stf^rocklinux> so to-be users can download bootstrap isos, for example ;) [23:59] <stf^rocklinux> that's really the reason I asked this question: to provide bootstrap isos for architectures for which we don't have full builds [00:00] --- Tue Jan 17 2006