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[07:50] <owl> moin
[07:56] <netrunner> moin, 2
[07:57] <owl> hi netrunner 
[07:58] Action: netrunner becomes a warmshowerer at -27 C :)
[07:59] <owl> *brrrrr* 
[08:01] Action: owl thinking about killinjg the person who developed oscommerce's "product-sets-contribution"
[08:01] <owl> is it somehow possible to debug php?
[08:02] <owl> (not with echo $var)
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[09:03] <blindcoder> moin
[09:03] <Pilot> hi all
[09:13] <owl> hi blindcoder , Pilot 
[09:19] <[raphael]> hi *
[09:23] <owl> hi [raphael] 
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[14:45] <owl> daja77: he's currently just temp. available or so
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[14:47] <owl> why?!!! why?!! why are customers always as dumb as bread and even are not able to call an inte-provider's hotline?!
[14:49] <daja77> if they could manage everything on their own, they wouldn't need you
[14:50] <owl> if they would manage that by their own, then they could save money
[14:50] <owl> now i have to drive to customer
[14:50] <owl> *puke* bbl
[15:00] <blindcoder> daja77: pong
[15:01] <daja77> blindcoder: your rss is broken when [tags] are used
[15:02] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:02] <blindcoder> akregator reads it
[15:02] <daja77> firefox shows just one [ and spaces instead of the title
[15:03] <blindcoder> cool
[15:03] <blindcoder> just a moment
[15:04] <blindcoder> fixed
[15:09] <blindcoder> uwaaah
[15:09] <blindcoder> killer onion of doom
[15:11] <daja77> huh?
[15:11] <daja77> you farted or sth?
[15:15] <blindcoder> nah
[15:15] <blindcoder> I cut an onion
[15:15] <daja77> ah ok
[15:16] <blindcoder> making lunch right now
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[15:18] <daja77> :)
[15:18] <daja77> cutting onions is really annoying
[15:18] <[raphael]> hi *
[15:19] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] 
[15:19] <blindcoder> daja77: yes, and now I have to fry them...
[15:21] <daja77> enjoy ;)
[16:04] <demian> hi
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[16:43] Action: netrunner likes -f option of mine, makes everything much faster.
[16:44] <daja77> hi freezerunner
[16:44] <netrunner> hi
[16:44] Action: netrunner found source of problem with digicam
[16:44] <daja77> which?
[16:44] <netrunner> kernels >2.6.13 have change in usb interface
[16:44] <netrunner> daja77: well, does not work :)
[16:44] <netrunner> digikam crashes, gtkam reports an error as well as gphoto2
[16:45] <daja77> ah ok, i don't run linux > 2.6.13 so I haven't noticed
[16:45] <netrunner> now gphoto 2.1.99 should include a fix ...
[16:45] <daja77> send a patch ..
[16:46] <daja77> Finished building package kdelibs, yeah
[16:47] <netrunner> which version?
[16:48] <netrunner> sent
[16:48] <netrunner> well, digikam still does not work. I could fix it, but they seem to prepare a release so I save my time for sth else :)
[16:49] <daja77> netrunner: 3.5, added security patches today
[16:50] <daja77> netrunner: see 2006012016492025499
[16:51] <daja77> hah suse just sends mail, that they fixed it too
[17:39] <netrunner> gngngngn hyperintelligent software.
[17:40] Action: netrunner feels desire to file apache bug
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[19:20] <demian> bye
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[19:39] <[raphael]> hi all
[19:39] <stf^rocklinux> hi raphael
[19:40] <[raphael]> hi stefan :)
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[19:44] <stf^rocklinux> creating gem files from all packages of the generic target took almost 3 hours on my Athlon XP 2000+ o_O
[19:45] <stf^rocklinux> and the build including the rebuild stage more than a week...
[19:47] <[raphael]> oho :)
[20:00] <th> to few ram?
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> 512 MB, plus 1 GB swap for building on tmpfs, which makes the build access the disk less often.
[20:02] <th> swap is not ram?
[20:03] <th> so 512MB?
[20:03] <stf^rocklinux> not physical ram
[20:03] <th> yea so this would not reduce disk-access.
[20:03] <th> more ram would help a lot i think
[20:03] <stf^rocklinux> it does, as my experience shows
[20:04] <stf^rocklinux> at least with my hardware
[20:11] <stf^rocklinux> it's more like an impression I got building with and without tmpfs, I mainly noticed a difference because the hard disk seems to be quieter with tmpfs.
[20:12] Action: netrunner has disabled tmpfs builds because 800M tempfs is not enough for recent kernels and mozilla
[20:12] <stf^rocklinux> openoffice needs 4 GB ;)
[20:12] Action: netrunner does not build openoffice himself
[20:13] <netrunner> our floor was without power for one hour :) -26 C makes many people use electrical heating :)
[20:13] <netrunner> I only wonderd why everything around my notebook was suddenly dark and irc didn't respond :)
[20:17] <th> a power outage can take your irc down?
[20:17] <th> that's a design flaw
[20:21] <netrunner> th: my connection to the screen where the irc client is running, yes :)
[20:24] <th> that's a design flaw
[20:25] <th> why does it die?
[20:25] <th> or was the whole city down?
[20:29] <netrunner> th: it is cold. central heating has its problems keeping everything warm over such a long time. so people start using electrical heating.
[20:29] <netrunner> like the one blowing warm wind at me :)
[20:30] <netrunner> th: the basic thought here is 'energy is for free'. u
[20:32] <th> netrunner: so why are there vital network components not being on UPS?
[20:33] <netrunner> th: I'd like to post a picture of our cabeling here, but there would be a playboy calendar visible and it would render #rl X-rated :)
[20:34] <netrunner> th: our vital network component interestingly decides to power down when I unplug an unrelated device from the power distribution point :)
[20:36] <th> oh - cool
[20:36] <th> that's the design flaw i mentioned earlier ;-)
[20:37] <netrunner> I am not sure if it is this distribution point, which I especially bought to prevent damage from fluctuations, or the power supply ...
[20:38] <th> ok
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[21:45] <esden> my god ... that is a dream: http://flickr.com/photos/visualseed/86410009/in/pool-tuawrigs/
[21:45] <owl> hi esden 
[21:46] <esden> hi owl 
[21:46] <owl> sigh. want to tease  me? :(
[21:49] <esden> hehe
[21:49] <owl> and still no cam :(
[21:51] <esden> why?
[21:51] <esden> have you at least decided which to buy?
[21:53] <owl> first have to save a bit of money... and will take a deeper look tomorrow and following days/weeks. might the canon eos 350d with 18-55/55-200 + battery"griff" will do *thinking*
[21:54] <esden> canon? ... yuck!
[21:54] <esden> :P
[21:54] <owl> need to talk to people how long guarantee is and so... but i guess it would be nice
[21:54] <owl> why "yuck"? ;)
[21:54] <owl> i am a bit insane, right? ;)
[21:54] <esden> canon has a very small grip ... it is too small
[21:54] <esden> and does not lye in the hand well
[21:55] <esden> and the body feels so ... plastic 
[21:55] <owl> well. imho it was ok. but a bit "gewoehnungsbeduerftig"
[21:55] <esden> and the sound of the shutter is so ... klack ... like a plastic toy
[21:55] <esden> but the lenses are fine
[21:55] <esden> the grip is a nice thing too
[21:56] <netrunner> esden: I am sure owl has ... tinier hands than you :)
[21:56] <esden> some day I will also have a grip and a longer lens
[21:56] <esden> netrunner: ok .. perhups
[21:56] <owl> dunno. not shot... need to aks a mediamarkt (guess i will try the one in augsburg somewhen *cough*) and ask for shooting... or maybe our local "digitalfotostudio" - guess they sell HW, too
[21:56] Action: netrunner now watching garry potter
[21:56] <esden> netrunner: garry potter?
[21:57] Action: netrunner 's gf always wanted to have a camera for making artistic fotos ... but wanted an ixus. now I gave her an ixus and she understood it's not the thing you can make artistic pics with :)
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[21:57] <netrunner> esden: russians replace h with g :) sounds funny ... 
[21:57] <owl> esden: hehe. yeah. well... 800 EUR would be the cam (with lense-kit afaik) and saturn-person mumbled something about "150 EUR for sigma tele"... but the set (incl. grip) original-canon would be about 1049
[21:57] <owl> *thinkÜ
[21:57] <owl> pardon. wrong eky O_O
[21:57] <owl> argh. forget my typing :)
[21:57] <esden> netrunner: aha ... strange
[21:58] <owl> garry. O_O help 
[21:58] <netrunner> I am now here in Peterhof, but russians say petergof :)
[21:59] <esden> wow it is -16 in warsaw!
[21:59] <owl> .oO( russians who speak german without any touch of russian accent are very strange to me *think*)
[21:59] <owl> waeh. a bit col. 
[21:59] <owl> d
[21:59] <esden> owl: 1k EUR sounds ok to me
[22:00] <owl> esden: yep. i think so, too... but still have to check some things out... but i saw it on - 17.? (when i gve my dynax 5d back) - and liked it...
[22:00] <netrunner> esden: I bet -24 :) and 0 in room as I feel :)
[22:01] <esden> netrunner: you are sitting there with gloves and jacket?
[22:01] <netrunner> esden: well, 4 layers shirt and sweater, 2 layers throusers and socks ... heating fan blowing to me ...
[22:02] <netrunner> central heating here is unable to keep the temperature
[22:06] <owl> brrrrrr. 
[22:07] Action: owl even becomes frozen reading netrunner 's lines
[22:09] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder
[22:09] <blindcoder> moin
[22:09] <owl> hi blindcoder 
[22:10] <blindcoder> re owl 
[22:10] <blindcoder> hi esden 
[22:21] <esden> argh ... super geil
[22:21] <esden> egal wo ich hingehe ist Patrik Lenz .. >_<
[22:21] <esden> aka scoop
[22:21] <owl> hm?
[22:21] <th> esden: ELANG?
[22:22] <th> esden: EWRONGCHANNEL?
[22:22] <esden> th: sorry
[22:22] <esden> translation: wherever I go there is Patrick Lenz
[22:22] <esden> I had a little dispute with that guy some time ago :/
[22:22] <th> esden: no need to worry - i just wanted to make sure you're not announcing your most private secrets in public by accident
[22:23] <esden> th: lol ;)
[22:23] <esden> thanks th 
[22:24] Action: esden is asking himself if and where is an open source application that is really good documented ...
[22:24] <esden> I think if I add the constrain that it should be a web application I arrive at 0%
[22:32] <netrunner> durak.
[22:33] <netrunner> switched off his pc while I was downloading the movie :(
[22:43] <esden> netrunner: yes you are a durak for sure ... :P
[22:43] <netrunner> esden: oh, similar in polish? :)
[22:44] <netrunner> bad words are very useful here in every day language.
[22:45] <esden> in polish it is "duren" with a dash over the 'n' ... but I knew the russian word too
[22:45] <netrunner> hehe :)
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