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[03:00] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:27] <owl> moin
[10:16] <blindcoder> moin
[10:19] <esden> moin
[10:19] <owl> hi blindcoder , esden 
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[14:47] <esden> owl: did you make your hamster trip too? ;)
[14:47] <esden> two times at the same day?
[14:52] <owl> esden: hm? i've edited someething
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[14:56] <esden> if you are so similar with your hamster ... then his problem with his leg should also be from tripping ... 
[15:07] <owl> pff. 
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[18:26] <blindcoder> narf, these blog spammers are more persistant than the email ones
[18:26] <blindcoder> and just as stupid
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[18:54] <blindcoder> damn
[18:54] <blindcoder> I swear I just saw some frozen parts in my beer bottle
[18:55] <netrunner> blindcoder: fast, drink them away, or they will freeze everything of it
[18:55] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:55] <blindcoder> -11 C here
[18:56] <blindcoder> that's what's left over from russia after they took most of the coldness away :)
[18:56] <netrunner> -20 here, gave some away :)
[18:57] <blindcoder> it fucking _hurt_ to touch that bottle (it's standing on the balcony)
[19:34] <blindcoder> hmm
[19:34] <blindcoder> have another beer or not?
[19:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: take revenge for the pain by killing them all
[19:53] <blindcoder> hehe
[19:53] <blindcoder> nen halben kasten?
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[19:59] <blindcoder> heh
[19:59] <blindcoder> you'd think those spammers would use new entries...
[19:59] <blindcoder> but they all go to one and the same entry o_O
[20:00] <blindcoder> which is five weeks in tho past, no less
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[20:27] <owl> blindcoder: ???
[20:29] <netrunner> blindcoder: for hotplugging to compeltely work, should I add hotplug to the initrd?
[20:38] <netrunner> hm. who needs hotplug on a initrd :)
[20:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: please do
[20:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: I _will_ need it soon
[20:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: for encryption keys on USB
[20:50] <stf^rocklinux> hi all
[20:50] <blindcoder> ah, I get about a dozen spam attempts dailf on a single entry in my blog (number 52, the announcement of a kendo image gallery)
[20:50] <blindcoder> I've created a nice blacklist entry that keeps them away for good
[20:50] <blindcoder> <a.*<a.*<a.*<a.*<a
[20:50] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux 
[20:50] <blindcoder> but they try harder than ever before o_O
[20:52] <stf^rocklinux> has someone managed to get hald running? Here it always bails out with a message like "dbus timed out" when it should run as a daemon...
[20:53] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: it runs here :)
[20:53] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: have you started dbus?
[20:54] <stf^rocklinux> yes, the dbus system manager and I also tried with a second per-login dbus session manager.
[20:54] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I only have one dbus running. 
[20:55] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: are you _sure_ dbus is running? :)
[20:55] <stf^rocklinux> I'm sure it was running when I tried yesterday
[20:55] <stf^rocklinux> I could even run dbus-monitor and dbus-view
[20:55] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: those tools I never tried :)
[20:56] <netrunner> dbus-monitor --system works here
[20:57] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: have you installed hal/dbus together with a new build?
[20:58] <stf^rocklinux> yes, I tried my latest generic build yesterday
[20:59] <stf^rocklinux> but there seems to be some bugs in that build, e.g. artsd would permanently crash...
[21:01] <stf^rocklinux> I think I'll just do a new build and try again...
[21:02] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: what does hald say if you run it in foreground and with debug?
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> when run as root on a konsole:
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> bash-2.05b# hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes --retain-privileges
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> 21:05:12.383 [I] hald.c:494: hal 0.5.4
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> 21:05:12.403 [I] hald.c:496: Will daemonize
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> 21:05:12.403 [I] hald.c:506: Becoming a daemon
[21:04] <stf^rocklinux> it does some probing on my floppy-drive but 'ps -A | grep hald' shows that hald is not running
[21:09] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: aha.
[21:09] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I remember.
[21:09] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: there are some offending values in the fdi's.
[21:10] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: look in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-storage-policy.fdi
[21:11] <netrunner> iirc the pamconsole and another one were not accepted.
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[21:26] <netrunner> re. had power outage here.
[21:26] <daja77> re
[21:27] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: pamconsole needs to be set to false, managed_keyword.primary to user (that's what I have here)
[21:28] <netrunner> what is better, install -v or cp -vf ?
[21:28] <blindcoder> I'd prefer install
[21:39] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: cool, now hald really runs as a daemon. thx! :)
[21:42] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: you're welcome. I just have to keep it in mind and submit a patch for it :)
[22:44] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I submitted something that should help.
[22:47] <stf^rocklinux> the last line of your patch should probably be
[22:47] <stf^rocklinux>    hook_add postmake 3 "install -v $confdir/*fdi /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/"
[22:47] <stf^rocklinux> not
[22:47] <stf^rocklinux>    hook_add postmake 3 "install -v $confdir/*init /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/"
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[23:03] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: there's a typo in your patch
[23:14] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I am sorry & drunk :)
[23:14] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I can redo them tomorrow.
[23:14] <stf^rocklinux> np :)
[23:14] <netrunner> n8
[23:14] <stf^rocklinux> gn8
[23:14] <netrunner> please vote contra so I won't forget.
[23:14] <stf^rocklinux> ok
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