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[07:14] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[07:21] <madtux> gutten morguen stf^rocklinux ... wie gehts?
[07:22] <stf^rocklinux> thanks, fine :)
[07:23] <stf^rocklinux> I've been writing on this script for 3 days and all night ...
[07:24] <stf^rocklinux> Of course I haven't been coding exclusively for the last 3 days, had some sleep too ^^
[07:25] <madtux> what have u been coding?
[07:26] <stf^rocklinux> a script that test-applies a set of patches against a directory tree
[07:26] <stf^rocklinux> it can detect all dependencies and conflicts between patches 
[07:27] <stf^rocklinux> it's supposed to be helpful when applying a large set of patches from submaster to a ROCK source tree
[07:30] <stf^rocklinux> applying 200 patches in the right order is not something you want to do manually ^^
[07:31] <stf^rocklinux> madtux: are you a native german speaker?
[07:32] <madtux> nein.. just know 1/2 bit. :)
[07:33] <madtux> i understand much more than i can actaully talk.
[07:33] <stf^rocklinux> ach so ^^
[07:34] <stf^rocklinux> I'm from Austria, btw. Where are you from?
[07:34] <madtux> Costa Rica... :)
[07:35] <madtux> AT sounds nice.. i've always wanted to go
[07:37] <stf^rocklinux> right now it's cold, icy and foggy here in Linz, and Costa Rica sounds to me like a nice place to be ^^
[07:38] <madtux> summer just started
[07:38] <madtux> :)
[07:42] <madtux> really nice to be here atm
[07:48] <stf^rocklinux> I like it here too, as long as I don't have to freeze ^^ 
[07:48] <stf^rocklinux> in winter everything looks different, but no less beautiful
[08:13] <blindcoder> moin
[08:14] <stf^rocklinux> moin moin
[08:28] Action: blindcoder off to work
[08:47] <esden> moin
[08:47] <stf^rocklinux> moin esden
[08:49] Action: daja77_ yawns
[08:52] <stf^rocklinux> moin daja ^^
[08:52] <daja77_> moin
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux> daja77_: crystal build finished:
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux> bash-2.05b# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg crystal-distro
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux> Error logs from crystal-distro-TRUNK-x86-athlon-xp-32-crystal-expert:
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux>  [5] base/ifplugd
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux> 327 builds total, 326 completed fine, 1 with errors.
[08:58] <stf^rocklinux> let's see what qemu has to say about it ;)
[08:59] <daja77_> gcc4?
[08:59] <daja77_> qemu doesn't build with gcc4
[08:59] <stf^rocklinux> not as default compiler
[08:59] <daja77_> oh you mean the test install
[08:59] <stf^rocklinux> yes
[09:00] <stf^rocklinux> it's a default crystal target
[09:02] <blindcoder> re
[09:04] <stf^rocklinux> wb blindcoder
[09:55] <netrunner> moin
[09:56] <stf^rocklinux> moin moin
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[11:33] <th> bitchin' we've just too few users. i cant update every package i need in a recent version on my own... 
[12:08] <blindcoder> th: well, then do something about it
[12:12] <th> what?
[12:12] <th> attending events? doing PR?
[12:12] <th> i'd really love to.
[12:14] <blindcoder> well, for a start, I still need a CD label design...
[12:15] <daja77_> th: do you come to chemnitz
[12:15] <th> daja77_: i doubt that. when was the date?
[12:16] <daja77_> march 4th and 5th
[12:16] <th> no way.
[12:16] <th> i'll be in the states on that time.
[12:17] <th> damn it
[12:17] <daja77_> oh
[12:19] <th> no wait. i mixed that up. i'll be in italy.
[12:19] <th> US is the week after
[12:19] <th> blindcoder: cs label design. i'm afraid i dont know any designers willing to set something up.
[12:19] <th> blindcoder: and my gimp-knowledge ends where you simply crop an iage.
[12:20] <daja77_> italy, the us, away is away :P
[12:21] <th> you got it
[12:21] <blindcoder> th: a simple ascii art representation of an _idea_ would already be fine
[12:21] <th> KISS
[12:22] <th> just all text that needs to be on the label.
[12:22] <th> that's it
[12:22] <th> perhaps a logo
[12:22] <th> we're no eye-candy DBK, are we?
[12:23] <daja77_> would it be bad to have eye candy cds?
[12:23] <th> if it's a lot of eye-candy: then yes.
[12:24] <th> that's only my opinion and - i'm not very strict to it.
[12:24] <th> "this is ROCKLinux. we're not focussed on our designs - but the content.
[12:24] <th> "
[12:26] <daja77_> put a playmate on it, sex sells
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[15:12] <blindcoder> re
[15:15] <daja77> wb
[15:37] <blindcoder> daja77: know any affordable playmates?
[15:38] <daja77> hm no
[15:38] <daja77> ask clifford ^^
[15:40] <blindcoder> heh
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[16:41] <daja77> blindcoder: I am missing the permalinks in your blog entries
[16:42] <blindcoder> daja77: click on "Comments", there it is
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[16:43] <daja77> oh ic
[16:43] <blindcoder> I never got the concept of "permalinks" anyway
[16:43] <blindcoder> either a link points to one resource or it doesn't
[16:44] <daja77> well I'd like to give away the link to that one entry not to the whole blog because the head entry might be another one already
[16:46] <blindcoder> daja77: yeah, that's what the 'comment' link is for, no?
[16:46] <blindcoder> daja77: I don't get the difference between the two
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[16:46] <daja77> i click on comment if i want to see the comments or if i want to comment myself
[16:48] <blindcoder> so the difference is that 'comments' shows the comments while 'permalink' doesn't?
[16:48] <daja77> yes
[16:48] <daja77> well no
[16:48] <daja77> it might show them too
[16:49] <blindcoder> I see
[16:49] Action: blindcoder will add a permalink option to his blog
[16:49] <daja77> thx
[16:49] <daja77> but nice entry ;)
[16:49] <blindcoder> thanks ;)
[16:53] <blindcoder> okay, 'Comments' is now a link to /index/<id>#comments and 'Permalink' goes just to /index/<id>
[16:53] <daja77> w00t ;)
[16:54] <blindcoder> damn, I feel a cold coming up :(
[16:54] <blindcoder> and I have kendo exam tomorrow
[16:55] <daja77> I hope this year won't be like last year where everybody had a cold
[16:55] Action: blindcoder will now buy dinner and then take a warm bath
[16:55] <blindcoder> bbl
[16:55] <blindcoder> daja77: heh, yeah :(
[16:56] <blindcoder> well, it _will_ be better
[16:56] <daja77> good :)
[16:56] <blindcoder> we will at least have decent hand-out CDs/DVDs
[16:56] <blindcoder> I think I can arrange as many as 50 labeled disks
[16:57] <daja77> nice
[17:00] <th> i've my cold already.
[17:01] <daja77> yeah illness posing ;)
[17:49] <daja77> rofl the google ads in blindy's blog rule
[17:51] <blindcoder> well, i must admit, by now they can be used more for amusement than anything else ;)
[17:51] <daja77> :)
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[18:44] <madtux> hi
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[21:07] <esden> bopp
[21:08] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[21:18] <esden> hi blindcoder 
[21:18] <markuman> is the Content Scrambling System a copy-protection or a play-back-protection?
[21:18] <esden> *sigh* .. my head is exploding and I did not drink anything
[21:19] <blindcoder> markuman: copy protection
[21:19] <blindcoder> esden: you just mentioned both the problem _and_ the solution
[21:19] <markuman> hm :-/
[21:19] <blindcoder> markuman: actually, both
[21:19] <blindcoder> markuman: but noone says that
[21:27] <th> is it illegal to break play-back-protections?
[21:28] <blindcoder> yes
[21:28] <blindcoder> it's encryption
[21:28] <blindcoder> and it's illegal to break encryption
[21:28] <stf^rocklinux> in the US it's illegal to circumvent copy-protection
[21:28] <blindcoder> or was that 'effective encryption'?
[21:28] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: okay, then I read too much /.
[21:40] <th> it's illegal to break encryption?
[21:40] <th> i thought it's only illegal to circumvent copy-protection
[21:40] <th> ok - we're not talking about france here of course.
[21:40] <blindcoder> forget what I've said, I'm not up to date
[21:41] <markuman> hm, were there some us guys who wants to find one pi number for css?
[21:41] <blindcoder> hoeh?
[21:42] <markuman> the german wikipedia said, it's only a play-back-protection......sry for badly english
[21:44] <blindcoder> so it protects the content from being played back?
[21:46] <markuman> i don't realy know :-/ thats what wikipedia said
[21:46] <stf^rocklinux> CSS per design controls which software can play DVDs
[21:47] <th> the play-protection is only a part of the copy-protection.
[21:47] <th> it's tried to prevent that copies are played.
[21:47] <stf^rocklinux> because the key codes for decryption are only given to "trusted" parties (which usually means they have to sign a contract and pay money)
[21:48] <stf^rocklinux> CSS tries to prevent that copies are made
[21:48] <th> and it's different keys. so one would know which key leaked.
[21:48] <stf^rocklinux> Once you decrypt a DVD with CSS, you can play it anyway you like
[21:49] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, but luckily CSS can be easy broken without having to know the keys ^^
[21:50] <blindcoder> I always wondered how that works
[21:51] <stf^rocklinux> afaik that's what libdvdcss does to play back CSS encrypted DVDs
[21:51] <blindcoder> yeah, but I don't get the mechanism behind it
[21:51] <blindcoder> not that I ever cared...
[21:52] <th> blindcoder: well. CSS is too weak. that's all.
[21:52] <blindcoder> ah
[21:53] <stf^rocklinux> remember the charge against the teenager who wrote the CSS decryption code?
[21:53] <th> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2635293.stm
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