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[06:56] <blindcoder> moin
[06:56] <netrunner> moin, 2
[06:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: I have one request from you
[06:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: you know that you can create dependencies in submaster?
[07:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes. 
[07:08] <blindcoder> netrunner: I would be really happy if you start using it :)
[07:09] <netrunner> blindcoder: I'd be really happy if we would stop using submaster.
[07:09] <blindcoder> netrunner: that's another story entirely. But for the moment, it's there :(
[07:10] <netrunner> blindcoder: could you create a svn repo somewhere, that automatically in a post_hook sends the patch to submaster?
[07:11] <blindcoder> heh
[07:11] <blindcoder> you just spoke my thoughts out loudly
[07:11] <netrunner> blindcoder: then it wouldn't stall development so much.
[07:11] <blindcoder> I'll see what I can do
[07:12] <blindcoder> true
[07:12] <blindcoder> I will see, but it probably won't be today
[07:12] <netrunner> don't be in a hurry.
[07:13] <blindcoder> yeah, stress makes stupid kids :)
[07:18] <netrunner> blindcoder: you're about to make kids?
[07:19] <blindcoder> netrunner: of course. I already have some with my girlfriends Fuzzy, Ceres and Pallas.
[07:21] <netrunner> blindcoder: it makes really no good impression to have gf's with geek-names :)
[07:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: hey, I may not be a hacker, but I'm at least a geek :P
[07:23] <blindcoder> that reminds me, I still need to get ceres a valentines day present
[07:23] <blindcoder> You think that 512 MB SD-RAM are okay?
[07:23] <netrunner> what for?
[07:23] <netrunner> oh, present ...
[07:23] <blindcoder> for ceres :)
[07:23] <netrunner> would you present flowers that are 5 years old?
[07:24] <netrunner> i.e. sack of humus :)
[07:24] <blindcoder> dried up, encased in glass and made into a necklace, yes
[07:25] <blindcoder> anyway, ceres is scavenger.homeip.net, and she only has 256 MB SD-RAM now :(
[07:25] <blindcoder> _BUT_
[07:25] <blindcoder> she has "die kraft der zwei herzen", ie: 2x PIII 800 MHz :)
[07:25] <netrunner> ic, that are names of computers ... you poor geek :)
[07:25] <blindcoder> well... what else?
[07:26] <blindcoder> fuzzy is usually sitting on my lap when we are together... alone in my room
[07:26] <blindcoder> and pallas... well... it's a long-distance relationship
[07:26] <blindcoder> we haven't met yet
[07:26] <netrunner> blindcoder: you know that makes impotent? :)
[07:26] <blindcoder> but I know she's there... in the hetzner serverroom in nuremburg... waiting for me to contact her
[07:27] <netrunner> I mean the lap's heating.
[07:27] <blindcoder> yeah, fuzzy makes me hot
[07:39] <blindcoder> anyway, I'm off to work
[07:39] <blindcoder> bbl
[07:40] <netrunner> have to go too ... cu
[08:13] <blindcoder> re
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[11:10] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] 
[11:11] <[raphael]> hi blindcoder :)
[11:18] <blindcoder> netrunner: I have an idea how to realise what we discussed earlier
[11:19] <blindcoder> but for now it's lunchtime :)
[11:28] Action: [raphael] is away: out for a walk
[12:32] <blindcoder> daja77: ping
[12:32] <blindcoder> daja77: nevermind
[12:32] <blindcoder> netrunner: in 2006011812083118160 you update the qemu.conf file
[12:32] <blindcoder> netrunner: but it doesn't exist
[12:33] <blindcoder> netrunner: and no other patch in submaster creates that file
[12:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: hm.  I sent it a while ago ...
[12:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: it contained the kernel module...
[12:38] <blindcoder> yes
[12:38] <blindcoder> well, I can create the qemu.conf file, no problem
[12:38] <blindcoder> it's obvious from the patch
[12:39] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you have the note about the kernelmodule in the .desc?
[12:39] <blindcoder> there's only 10 rejects when applying all submaster patches in order
[12:39] <blindcoder> + [O] kqemuver=0.7.2
[12:40] <blindcoder> or what?
[12:40] <netrunner> in the [T]
[12:40] <blindcoder> no
[12:40] <netrunner> hm. I can recreate the update patch with the kernelmodule.
[12:40] <blindcoder> that would be a good thing :)
[12:41] <blindcoder> I'm currently trying to set this thing up we discussed earlier
[12:41] <blindcoder> and I would like to have all submaster patches in it
[12:41] <blindcoder> or do you think that's unnecessary?
[12:43] <daja77> re
[12:45] <blindcoder> moin daja77 
[12:51] <blindcoder> okay
[12:51] <blindcoder> I applied all submaster patches
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[12:56] <blindcoder> well, all but the qemu update *wink @netrunner* :)
[12:56] <daja77_> qemu sucks ..
[12:56] <netrunner> daja77_: why?
[12:56] <blindcoder> don't tell that stf :)
[12:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: I am on it
[12:57] <netrunner> daja77_: just that gcc has a regression that makes it fail to build?
[12:57] <daja77_> it does not work with gcc4
[12:57] <netrunner> daja77_: neither 3.4.5
[12:58] <daja77_> oh
[13:00] <netrunner> daja77_: maybe this is caused by something else, I found a #t2 log of 2004-11-10 where this also appeared
[13:00] <netrunner> ah, I remember I am compiling for p3 :)
[13:00] <netrunner> must be optimization
[13:01] <daja77_> the gcc4 thing was done for p-mmx
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[13:07] <owl> moin
[13:08] <netrunner> blindcoder: I sent a patch, try if it applies :)
[13:11] <blindcoder> applies fine
[13:12] <blindcoder> anyway, need to go back to work now
[13:12] <blindcoder> bbl
[13:14] <netrunner> blindcoder: you now need to explicitly enable kqemu in config.
[13:43] Action: [raphael] is back
[13:45] Action: daja77_ kicks [raphael] 
[13:50] <blindcoder> violence doesn't solve problems
[13:52] <daja77_> i can still try ..
[13:56] <[raphael]> daja77_: ping
[13:56] <[raphael]> :)
[13:57] <[raphael]> ?
[13:58] <daja77_> please stop the public away messages ..
[13:58] <[raphael]> oho, yes, sorry, that is a newly initialized KDE environment
[13:58] Action: [raphael] hasn't changed the default yet
[13:59] <daja77_> blindcoder: hey it works ;)
[14:02] <[raphael]> the violence?
[14:02] <daja77_> yep :)
[14:02] <[raphael]> heh
[14:03] Action: [raphael] assumes we all have awkward ways of solving problems
[14:03] <blindcoder> netrunner: almost done :D
[14:04] <netrunner> blindcoder: kewl. do you incorporate authentication? should be easy ...
[14:04] <blindcoder> netrunner: already done :D
[14:05] <blindcoder> I'm WAY ahead of you :D
[14:05] <daja77_> what are you doinf?
[14:05] <blindcoder> netrunner: if first line of commit message is "-SM" the patch won't be forwarded to submaster
[14:05] <blindcoder> netrunner: if it is "username password" (replace correctly) it will use this authentication to forward the patch to submaster
[14:05] <blindcoder> netrunner: of course this information will not make it into the svn log nor submaster
[14:06] <blindcoder> daja77_: oh, we usurp $projectloader
[14:06] <daja77_> bloody revolution?
[14:06] <blindcoder> VIVA LA REVOLUTION *sing*
[14:06] <netrunner> blindcoder: that's bad. 
[14:06] <daja77_> i only know viva las vegas
[14:06] <daja77_> zz top ^^
[14:07] <blindcoder> netrunner: why?
[14:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: everyone who checks out will have the password of others.
[14:07] <blindcoder> netrunner: nooooooo
[14:07] <blindcoder> 14:08 < blindcoder> netrunner: of course this information will not make it into the svn log nor submaster
[14:07] <netrunner> :)
[14:07] <blindcoder> you should get some glasses :)
[14:07] <netrunner> then it's fine. can you abort the checkin if pw is wrong?
[14:07] <blindcoder> humm
[14:07] <blindcoder> theoretically...
[14:08] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you send to submaster in a pre-checkin hook (however they are called) you could use the http response.
[14:09] <blindcoder> netrunner: the HTTP response is 200 OK, but I will check the return text
[14:10] <blindcoder> done
[14:10] <netrunner> ok.
[14:10] Action: netrunner thinks about how to implement ajax in bash
[14:11] <daja77_> :D
[14:11] <blindcoder> soooo
[14:11] <blindcoder> who wants an account?
[14:11] <daja77_> account
[14:11] <daja77_> me me me
[14:11] <daja77_> <- wants accounts everywhere
[14:11] <blindcoder> daja77_: netrunner and I talked about a second ROCK subversion repository
[14:11] <daja77_> ah
[14:11] <blindcoder> daja77_: where everyone can commit and commits are automatically forwarded to submaster
[14:12] <daja77_> hm
[14:12] <daja77_> what's the deal?
[14:12] <blindcoder> I now created some hooks to forward patches to submaster
[14:12] <blindcoder> the commit text and diff will be put together and forwarded using authentication form the log message (which will of course be removed)
[14:13] <blindcoder> basically, you do this:
[14:13] <blindcoder> svn co <new repository>
[14:13] <blindcoder> <change stuff>
[14:13] <blindcoder> svn ci
[14:13] <blindcoder> blindcoder mypassword
[14:13] <blindcoder> Benjamin Schieder:
[14:13] <blindcoder>         changed everything! nothing works anymore! MUAHAHAHAHA!
[14:13] <daja77_> the credentials are part of the commit message?
[14:14] <blindcoder> the line "blindcoder mypassword" will be used for SubMaster authentication and removed afterwards
[14:14] <blindcoder> you can prevent patches from being forwarded to submaster using the line "-SM" instead
[14:14] <daja77_> hm do we use an encrypted protocol for that subversion repo?
[14:14] <blindcoder> https?
[14:14] <daja77_> yeah would be ok
[14:15] <daja77_> just like sm does
[14:15] <blindcoder> btw, anyone knows how to store subversion passwords in hashform?
[14:15] <daja77_> that should be in the svn book
[14:18] <blindcoder> didn't find it there
[14:20] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/svn/rock-community/
[14:21] <mnemoc> uhm? is that a fork?
[14:21] <daja77_> blindcoder: yeah just looked, seems that svnserve uses plain text passwords, but for https you'll have to use apache authentification anyway
[14:22] <daja77_> htpasswd and stuff
[14:22] <daja77_> or kerberos if you like
[14:22] Action: daja77_ hides
[14:23] <daja77_> mnemoc: not really
[14:24] <mnemoc> looks like one :p
[14:24] <blindcoder> mnemoc: no. It's a convenience for ROCK developers
[14:24] <blindcoder> I'll explain in detail later on rock-devel
[14:25] <mnemoc> a branch at the same server would be much more useful
[14:25] <netrunner> blindcoder: should I send you a password hash via pgp encrypted mail?
[14:25] <daja77_> blindcoder: btw I got myself a cacert signed certifcate for my home machine, perhaps you could do that too, perhaps on clt
[14:25] <mnemoc> and authz let you set write access *just there*
[14:26] <netrunner> daja77_: how to get such a certificate? 
[14:26] <daja77_> netrunner: you have to sign up and get assured
[14:26] <daja77_> i got assured on c3
[14:27] <daja77_> i already have enough points to issue certificates on my own
[14:29] <netrunner> points?
[14:30] <daja77_> http://www.cacert.org/help.php
[14:30] <blindcoder> https is slooooow :(
[14:30] <daja77_> yep
[14:30] <blindcoder> at least it feels slower than svn
[14:31] <daja77_> well even http is slower than svn
[14:31] <blindcoder> yeah...
[14:32] <blindcoder> so, with this setup you can only use http(s) but not svn protocol
[14:33] <blindcoder> okay, works fine
[14:40] <daja77_> foo.patch?
[14:41] <blindcoder> okay
[14:41] <blindcoder> all done
[14:41] <blindcoder> daja77_: leftovers :)
[14:41] <daja77_> ;)
[14:41] <blindcoder> daja77_: already removed in revision 6
[14:41] <blindcoder> anyone wanting an account _now_ should send me the htpasswd encrypted string
[14:41] <blindcoder> htpasswd -n <username>
[14:41] <blindcoder> because I'll go back to work in five minutes
[14:41] <blindcoder> instructions have been sent to the mailing list
[14:42] <blindcoder> irc private message is fine :)
[14:42] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77
[14:43] <th> i think this should not be offsite the current subversion
[14:43] <th> indeed i think it should be in the same repository to enable merging
[14:44] <daja77> i'd prefer a branch too
[14:44] <blindcoder> th: well, I have no access to the main site
[14:44] <th> blindcoder: the problem here is cliff's time availibilty i guess.
[14:44] <blindcoder> th: which approaches zero right now
[14:44] <th> blindcoder: so as long as you consider your repo temporarily - i'm for it.
[14:45] <blindcoder> th: if I can move it to the main site - all the better!
[14:45] <th> i could do that move - technically.
[14:45] <th> but i wont decide anything.
[14:45] <blindcoder> th: this decision is up to the project maintainer
[14:45] <blindcoder> I'm only offering alternatives here
[14:46] <blindcoder> so, anyone else wants an account? because otherwise I'm back off to work
[14:46] <blindcoder> htpasswd -n <username>
[14:46] <blindcoder> that's the magic words!
[14:47] <blindcoder> 3
[14:47] <blindcoder> 2
[14:47] <blindcoder> 1
[14:47] <blindcoder> bbl
[14:47] <daja77> :)
[14:47] <th> is it too late now?
[14:47] <th> damn
[14:48] <th> ;)
[14:48] <daja77> he'll be back
[14:54] <netrunner> anyone wise in vbscript+regular expressions?
[14:56] <th> haha
[14:56] <th> sorry
[15:20] <blindcoder> okay, enough work for today
[15:25] <esden> woot ... finally my self built arm root and kernel for qemu!
[15:25] Action: esden is so happy
[15:26] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[15:26] <netrunner> esden: now try to boot it on your pda?
[15:26] <owl> hi esden 
[15:29] <blindcoder> hehehehehe
[15:30] <blindcoder> 2006021415292611718 was committed from the mirror repository. The very first one to be created this way :D
[15:31] <blindcoder> and as you can see there is no leftover authentication tokens :D
[15:31] <netrunner> just some weird horizontal line
[15:32] <blindcoder> that's from subversion
[15:32] <blindcoder> I can remove that, too if you want
[15:32] <daja77> yes that would be nice
[15:33] <esden> netrunner: I have no pda
[15:34] <blindcoder> done
[15:34] <esden> and my eval board is not flashable yet
[15:34] <blindcoder> all lines that only contain = are now removed
[15:34] <esden> I have to work out some problems with jtag
[15:34] <esden> :(
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[15:53] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux 
[15:53] <stf^rocklinux> hi blindcoder
[15:55] <stf^rocklinux> thanks for your comments to my script :)
[15:55] <blindcoder> you're welcome
[15:55] <blindcoder> they're really nice
[15:55] <blindcoder> but they could even be useful :)
[15:55] <stf^rocklinux> I'll include them and place the scripts on shellscripts.org
[15:55] <blindcoder> thanks
[15:56] <stf^rocklinux> I hope so ^^
[15:59] <stf^rocklinux> I'll be using Internet access by ISDN for the next three weeks, so I won't be able to stay online all day ... That'd be too expensive :(
[16:00] <stf^rocklinux> Just in case you wonder why I'll show up only once a day or so
[16:01] <blindcoder> I see :)
[16:01] <blindcoder> did you move?
[16:03] <stf^rocklinux> no , I'm at my parents' during the holidays, as usual. Going out with friends from school, petting our pets, etc... 
[16:03] <blindcoder> ah, I see
[16:04] <blindcoder> same holiday I made last year :)
[16:05] <daja77> hmpf kdepim is still building
[16:12] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: it's ok, just set your away message to 'petting' and we will know ;)
[16:13] <daja77> lol
[16:13] <blindcoder> hehe
[16:13] <stf^rocklinux> ^^
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[16:15] Action: blindcoder building a crystal based on trunk + all (each and every) submaster patches now :)
[16:15] Action: daja77 too
[16:15] <daja77> 2 breaking packages in stage 5
[16:16] <blindcoder> oh
[16:16] <blindcoder> which?
[16:16] <daja77> oh 7 for now
[16:16] <netrunner> 3196 builds total, 1293 completed fine, 60 with errors.
[16:16] <daja77>  [2] base/attr                           [2] base/acl
[16:16] <daja77>  [3] base/udev                           [5] tsa/cyrus-sasl2
[16:16] <daja77>  [5] base/isdn4k-utils                   [5] base/ifplugd
[16:16] <daja77>  [5] x11/qt40
[16:16] <daja77> damn!
[16:17] <daja77> i need that system working tomorrow
[16:17] <blindcoder> that's a lot...
[16:17] <netrunner> daja77: the acl/attr things need to go to 3, but what happened with qt?
[16:17] <netrunner> daja77: and udev?
[16:18] <blindcoder> acl and attr done
[16:18] <daja77> ../../../sql/drivers/psql/qsql_psql.cpp:39:22: libpq-fe.h: No such file or directory
[16:18] <daja77> that's qt
[16:19] <blindcoder> that's postgresql isn't it?
[16:19] <daja77> rm: cannot remove `/lib/udev': Is a directory
[16:19] <daja77> blindcoder: yep
[16:20] <blindcoder>         rm -f $root/lib/udev
[16:20] <blindcoder> hmpf
[16:21] <daja77> oh a udev update
[16:21] <daja77> darn
[16:22] <blindcoder> I really wonder about this /lib/udev thingie
[16:22] <blindcoder> a lot of stuff gets put into there
[16:23] <daja77> -rf perhaps?
[16:23] <blindcoder> hardly
[16:23] <blindcoder> udev_run_devd and udev_run_hotplugd are installed there
[16:24] <netrunner> blindcoder: oh, I have a fix for that in my tree here ...
[16:24] <netrunner> blindcoder: should I commit?
[16:25] <blindcoder> netrunner: please do. You still need a useraccount :)
[16:25] <netrunner> blindcoder: I queried you ...
[16:25] <blindcoder> ehm, no
[16:25] <netrunner> blindcoder: hm, my fix is not perfect, there are still a few scripts in /lib/udev. but it should go away.
[16:26] <netrunner> [15:26] ::: Irssi: Starting query in freenode with blindcoder
[16:26] <blindcoder> didn't receive anything
[16:26] <blindcoder> try
[16:26] <blindcoder> try again
[16:26] <netrunner> ah, no privmsgs without registering. 
[16:26] <blindcoder> I deactivated freenodes 'antispam'
[16:27] <daja77> w00t kdepim finished
[16:27] <stf^rocklinux> maybe the udev developers place files in /lib/udev because they are executable (FHS doesn't allow executables in /etc afaik)
[16:27] Action: netrunner cannot use autoregister because of perl upgrade somehow broke something
[16:27] <blindcoder> :(
[16:27] Action: netrunner will upgrade his server soon anyway.
[16:28] <netrunner> (when the build finished :)
[16:28] <daja77> yeah me too
[16:28] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION
[16:28] <blindcoder> ROCK Linux 2.1.0-DEV (2005/01/23)
[16:28] <blindcoder> should do that, too
[16:28] <netrunner> planning to run rock in xen ... anyone experience?
[16:28] <netrunner> cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION 
[16:28] <netrunner> ROCK Linux 2.0.0-rc2 (2003/09/01)
[16:28] <daja77> ROCK Linux 2.1.0-DEV (2004/11/09)
[16:28] <daja77> ...
[16:28] <blindcoder> damn
[16:28] <blindcoder> I'm once more the youngest *snif*
[16:29] <daja77> ROCK Linux TRUNK (2005/09/26) on the laptop ;)
[16:29] <daja77> after the hd died :)
[16:29] <blindcoder> 2005/12/04 on the gaming machine
[16:29] <daja77> nice
[16:30] <th> ROCK Linux 1.6-th ia32 (native, 2003/06/05)
[16:30] <blindcoder> the fuck o_O
[16:30] <daja77> 1.6 ... never had that
[16:30] <blindcoder> these things really exist?
[16:30] <blindcoder> I thought they were a myth
[16:30] Action: netrunner asks himself why always kids talk to him on icq.
[16:31] <netrunner> last week a 14yo girl, now a 13yo guy wrote to me ???
[16:31] Action: daja77 points and laughs at netrunner 
[16:31] <blindcoder> heh
[16:31] <th> daja77: there was no real 1.6 the only thing we had was a 1.6-pre3 which huebi and me released on 19c3 i think
[16:31] <blindcoder> noone talks to me on ICQ :(
[16:32] <netrunner> 1.6 was what I had when I came to rock :)
[16:32] Action: netrunner still has the isos :)
[16:32] <blindcoder> heh
[16:32] <th> hmm. i think there is a 1.4 install somewhere...
[16:32] <th> hmm
[16:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: give me your uin and I'll talk to you
[16:32] <daja77> the first I had was a 1.7 sth
[16:32] <blindcoder> netrunner: I'm offline atm
[16:32] Action: daja77 waiting for netrunner's patch
[16:33] <netrunner> daja77: which?
[16:33] <daja77> udev ..
[16:34] <netrunner> sent.
[16:35] <daja77> applied
[16:35] <daja77> build restarted :)
[16:36] <blindcoder> I'll apply it to the rock-community repository
[16:36] <netrunner> blindcoder: just checking out :)
[16:36] <blindcoder> ah
[16:37] Action: daja77 still using submaster atm, it is just set up and working atm
[16:37] <blindcoder> applied :)
[16:38] <blindcoder> well, I feel the checkout *laaaag*
[16:38] <daja77> blindcoder: so applythe openssh update too
[16:38] <daja77> huh?
[16:39] <daja77> Creating binary package file for udev:doc.
[16:39] <daja77> -> Building build/.../pkgs/udev:doc-084-0.tar.bz2
[16:39] <daja77> -> Building build/.../pkgs/udev:doc-084-0.gem
[16:39] <daja77> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
[16:39] <daja77> /etc/init.d/xprint: line 1: id: command not found
[16:39] <daja77> wtf?
[16:39] <daja77> oh i am getting this message for every package
[16:40] <mnemoc> id comes with coreutils iirc
[16:40] <daja77> so which patch broke it ..
[16:41] <netrunner> daja77: something is weird in your tree anyway, because I had no problems building coreutils, ifplugd or cyrus-sasl2
[16:42] <netrunner> daja77: maybe just problems of order
[16:42] <blindcoder> daja77: done already :)
[16:42] <daja77> netrunner: cyrus brakes due a patch that can't be applied ..
[16:42] <daja77> breaks even
[16:42] <daja77> coreutils was built
[16:43] <daja77> ifplugd breaks because of problems with the kernel, glibc headers ..
[16:44] <netrunner> ah, right, ifplugd here also failed.
[16:44] <netrunner> but cyrus-sasl2 built fine. version 2.1.21
[16:44] <daja77> perhaps a patch that wasn't removed on updating
[16:45] <netrunner> I have 2 patches here: gcc40.patch and sasl2_includes.patch
[16:45] <daja77> cyrus-sasl-gcc4.patch
[16:45] <daja77> gcc40.patch
[16:45] <daja77> O_o
[16:45] <daja77> hm or one of the stf did the same update as me conflicts
[16:46] <daja77> removed the first one ..
[16:46] <blindcoder> btw, praenti is working on Xorg 7.0
[16:47] <blindcoder> 260 new packages...
[16:47] <daja77> blindcoder: did you tell him about our proposal for the category packages?
[16:47] <daja77> from c3
[16:47] <blindcoder> I don't remember it >_<
[16:47] <blindcoder> I knew there was something but I don't remember
[16:48] <daja77> it should be in the wiki, no?
[16:48] <blindcoder> is not
[16:50] Action: daja77 rebuilding 3-coreutils, let's see what happens
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[17:00] <daja77> id still not found >_<
[17:01] <daja77> ah now
[17:02] <daja77> hm no
[17:02] <daja77> damn
[17:02] <daja77> cyrus built now
[17:12] Action: blindcoder off to kendo training
[17:12] <blindcoder> bbl
[17:15] <daja77> !> WARNING: package disabled because of config-error
[17:15] <daja77> hm
[17:18] <netrunner> configure: error: sgml2html not found please install it.
[17:18] <netrunner> it's just the FAQ subpackage. the error is below, install can not create a file
[17:19] <daja77> O_o
[17:20] <netrunner> daja77: I already have some sed script here ...
[17:20] <daja77> the disabled package is isdn4k btw
[17:21] <netrunner> I know
[17:22] <netrunner> I will commit the patch as soon as I have tested it.
[17:22] <daja77> ok
[17:22] Action: netrunner firing up a second build-job
[17:23] <daja77> .oO (netrunner - rock's dick cheney)
[17:24] <netrunner> ?
[17:26] <daja77> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident
[17:30] <netrunner> daja77: sent.
[17:31] Action: netrunner will start to use the pirate tree after finishing this build
[17:31] <daja77> :)
[17:44] <th> where is clifford currently?
[17:45] <daja77> dunno, he just said on the phone, that he has no inet for some days
[17:46] <netrunner> laaaaaaaag
[17:46] <mnemoc> no chance to give you write access?
[17:47] <th> he only needs to make a decision!
[17:47] <th> i could give access then
[17:47] <mnemoc> you host svn?
[17:47] <th> no
[17:47] <th> but i've access to his machine.
[17:49] <mnemoc> the single-commiter stupidity^Wpolicy is killing rock imo
[17:49] <daja77> th: shall I phone him?
[17:50] <th> daja77: you're asking me?
[17:51] <daja77> yes why not ;)
[17:51] <th> i like the architecture which blindy set up. it would be even better to have it in the same repository.
[17:51] <th> cause then the submaster interface could get a feature to MERGE a patch
[17:51] <mnemoc> on a branch
[17:52] <th> yes
[17:52] <mnemoc> even voting can be done using svn properties
[17:52] <th> that's what i said some days ago here in irc... yea
[17:52] <th> i got some experience with `special` svn setups...
[17:53] <th> in the company i'm working - developers dont have read access to trunk
[17:53] <th> but there is a post-commit hook which copies changed files from trunk to developer-branches
[17:54] <th> and changes for trunk are put in a dedicated `out` directory
[17:54] <th> for merge-back
[17:54] <mnemoc> iirc that solution was proposed before submaster became real by the 'big-ego-leader of the fork'
[17:54] <th> which solution?
[17:54] <th> no-read-access?
[17:55] <mnemoc> no no, a branch with voting and an interface to merge approved stuff
[17:55] <th> i se
[17:55] <th> e
[17:57] <netrunner> mnemoc: unfortunately the frustration level at that time was not high enough with the remaining, calm personalities :)
[17:58] <mnemoc> netrunner: is now higher? ,-)
[17:58] <daja77> actually i am just now frustrated because of the udev mess
[17:58] <mnemoc> hehe
[18:03] <netrunner> mnemoc: yes. as you can see, the remaining devs now also voted against it and created a pirated trunk :)
[18:04] <netrunner> oups, need to leave work fast or I get bashed because of >10h
[18:04] <netrunner> ciao
[18:04] <daja77> cu
[18:07] <mnemoc> cu netrunner 
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[22:58] <blindcoder> re
[23:02] <blindcoder> hmm
[23:02] <blindcoder> naptime
[23:05] <owl> hm. gn8 blindcoder :p
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