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[02:39] <esden> ping blindcoder 
[02:40] <esden> blindcoder: what happened .. why did pallas reboot three hours ago or so?
[02:40] <esden> see uptime...
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[02:50] <SMP> 14:59| < blindcoder> my server just went down
[02:50] <SMP> 14:59| < blindcoder> along with all of hetzner, it seems
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[03:45] <esden> thanks SMP 
[07:09] <netrunner> moin
[07:36] <blindcoder> morgaehn
[08:24] Action: netrunner wonders if reference builds are done without paranoia ...
[08:24] <netrunner> so many packages broken that are not affected by my updates
[08:24] <netrunner> some even installing to /usr/local
[08:30] <blindcoder> daja77_: ping
[08:44] <netrunner> yeah, almost down to 100 3194 builds total, 3028 completed fine, 118 with errors.
[09:07] <th> i'm getting a nephew today.
[09:08] <th> (i just wanted to have it in the log, so i can google for his birthday later)
[09:23] <netrunner> hehe :)
[09:26] <th> hmmm
[09:26] <th> ./scripts/Config: config/bbs.swp7346/predefined-pkgsel.parsed: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `}'
[09:26] <th> ./scripts/Config: config/bbs.swp7346/predefined-pkgsel.parsed: line 2: `/ 00-dirtree / { p; d; }'
[09:26] <th> that happens if i select a pkgsel
[09:27] <th> it's only visible for few seonds
[09:27] <th> seconds
[10:02] <th> hmmm. packages for community-tree are not yet mirrored...
[10:02] <th> (those which are not in trunk)
[10:02] <th> (e.g. when submaster contains an update)
[10:13] <th> i'm fixing this
[10:13] <th> i would need amarok-1.3.8.tar.bz2 and kiax-0.8.4.tar.bz2 both download failed from orig urls.
[10:13] <th> ne1 able to provide?
[10:32] <daja77_> amarok yes, have to look for the other one
[10:33] <daja77_> th: http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock/src
[10:34] <daja77_> only have amarok
[10:34] <th> cool - i'll add it to the mirror manually
[10:34] <th> oh wow - mono is in the minmal package selection???
[10:35] <blindcoder> o_O
[10:35] <th> xv is
[10:35] <th> imagemagick as well
[10:35] <blindcoder> heh
[10:35] <th> metacity
[10:35] <th> gnome-panel as well
[10:35] <blindcoder> well, imagemagick I can understand
[10:35] <th> gimp!
[10:35] <th> gnome-themes
[10:36] <th> hey this is crazy
[10:36] <th> there is something broken
[10:36] <th> misc/pkgsel/minimal.in
[10:36] <th> ...
[10:36] <th> #include "basic.set"
[10:36] <th> DISABLE_REST
[10:36] <th> perhaps the "DISABLE_REST" does not work?
[10:37] <blindcoder> well, fake _did_ point out that all that is 'broken', 'unstable' and asked to 'please fix' it
[10:37] <th> i see
[10:37] <th> that's all m4... so where is these macros defined?
[10:38] <th> propably in "macros"
[10:38] <th> #define DISABLE_REST s/^X /O /;
[10:38] <blindcoder> well, it's cpp
[10:38] <th> whut?
[10:38] <th> sure?
[10:38] <blindcoder> cpp -undef -imacros
[10:39] <blindcoder> that's the call to create the package selection
[10:39] <th> i dunno
[10:39] <blindcoder> personally, I don't like it, but I also don't like awk and sed in the build scripts :P
[10:39] <th> scripts/config.in:212:  cpp -undef -Imisc/pkgsel/sets -imacros misc/pkgsel/macros -P misc/pkgsel/${ROCKCFG_PKGSEL_TPL}.in 2>/dev/null > config/$config.$swpid/predefined-pkgsel.parsed
[10:40] <blindcoder> jupp
[10:40] <th> ahh
[10:40] <th> run it
[10:40] <th> pkgfilter sed ''
[10:41] <th> a double single-quote
[10:41] <blindcoder> o_O
[10:41] <th> #define START_PKGSEL pkgfilter sed '
[10:41] <th> that's the one
[10:41] <th> i cant find the other
[10:43] <th> that's propably the reason for the bug i pasted earlier
[10:43] <th> if i remove the one... both disappear
[10:49] <netrunner> hokus pokus fixdibus :)
[10:52] <th> if i run the cpp line i get tons of errors
[10:53] <th> e.g.
[10:53] <th> misc/pkgsel/macros:2:36: missing terminating ' character
[10:53] <th> and the '#' is not a comment for cpp
[10:53] <th> so the copyright notice is a problem
[10:54] <th> that's not working at all
[10:54] <th> that's confusing me strongly
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[11:13] <th> after some research i would say it is NOT possible to use single quotes in this way when using cpp
[11:17] <th> even if only including a file containing only a single quote
[11:17] <th> cpp is closing the quote with another one
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[12:02] <th> ok - we can get around the single quote problem by just skipping it.
[12:03] <th> there is not much sense in letting the "user" (distribution builder) enter fix start and end tags if they are always required.
[12:03] <th> so the config script can prepend and append automaticallt
[12:03] <th> but we need to change comments from # to //
[12:03] <th> and that might be a problem in processing later
[12:04] <th> perhaps we can feed cpp from stdin and grep-v all comments out before
[12:23] <th> but we cant for the included files...
[12:28] <th> #define ADD(F) / F /    { p; d; };
[12:29] <th> i think this does not add packages which are O
[12:29] <th> i'll try to rewrite this in shell using sed
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[12:50] <owl> moin
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[13:40] <blindcoder> th: what now? shell or sed?
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[14:12] <blindcoder> th: rockinitrd fixed in rev 60
[15:02] <netrunner> hm, ncurses needs gpm
[15:04] <netrunner> what to do? add ncurses to stages 5 and 9?
[15:07] <SMP> netrunner: I can hardly imagine that being a required dependecy
[15:07] <netrunner> ah, ncurses builds in 9 anyway.
[15:08] <netrunner> SMP: I have a problem with building w3m after 2006011620441211364 
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[15:13] <icelbox> moin
[15:14] <daja77> moin icelbox 
[15:14] <blindcoder> moin icelbox 
[15:16] <netrunner> hm. curses can be compiled with --with-gpm. but that will create a dependency on gpm, which makes a lot of rescheduling necessary.
[15:17] <blindcoder> netrunner: w3m should be easily compilable without gpm support
[15:17] <blindcoder> what's the error you get?
[15:17] <netrunner> blindcoder: but I want gpm support in gpm :)
[15:17] <blindcoder> heh
[15:18] <blindcoder> actually, I haven't used gpm in ages
[15:18] <netrunner> terms.o: In function `do_getch':terms.c:(.text+0xffb): undefined reference to `Gpm_Wgetch'
[15:18] <blindcoder> hm
[15:18] <blindcoder> I remember that error
[15:18] <blindcoder> wonder how I fixed it...
[15:18] <netrunner> the switch by stf which adds --without-curses to gpm makes gpm not export that symbol.
[15:18] <blindcoder> ah right
[15:18] <blindcoder> +var_append extraconfopt ' ' "--enable-gopher --disable-mouse"
[15:19] <blindcoder> in w3m
[15:19] <netrunner> ncurses needs to be built with --with-gpm for this
[15:19] <blindcoder> maybe I should commit this :)
[15:19] <netrunner> blindcoder: but I want mouse, why to disable it?
[15:19] <netrunner> no.
[15:21] <blindcoder> personally I don't mind ncurses depending on gpm
[15:21] <netrunner> blindcoder: just that ncurses is built in stage 3 already.
[15:22] <blindcoder> so move gpm to stage 3, too
[15:22] <netrunner> I don't know what problems the dependency on gpm will bring to that
[15:24] <blindcoder> hardly any I'd say
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[15:34] <netrunner> hm, didn't help anyway. still missing that symbol
[15:47] <netrunner> hah, lfs has a patch for it :)
[15:47] <netrunner> and ncurses only runtime-depends since they use dlopen
[15:51] <netrunner> wups, compiles :)
[16:42] <blindcoder> I
[16:42] <blindcoder> HATE
[16:42] <blindcoder> UCRAP
[16:42] <blindcoder> in its permissions.rules it references /etc/udev/scripts/inputdev.sh
[16:42] <blindcoder> BUT IT DOESN'T SHIP IT ANYMORE!
[16:43] <netrunner> lol :)
[16:43] Action: netrunner presents a udev shird to blindy
[16:45] Action: netrunner -> home
[16:46] <daja77> blindcoder: it is its way keeping busy ;)
[16:47] <blindcoder> >_<
[16:47] <daja77> as in http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2005/ga050705.gif
[16:48] <daja77> scnr
[16:49] <blindcoder> hehe
[17:05] <blindcoder> you know
[17:05] <blindcoder> this lack of udevstart seriously breaks rockinitrd
[17:05] <daja77> damn
[17:06] <daja77> but yes initrd booting is broken in my latest rock install
[17:06] <daja77> that's why I boot the system without initrd
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