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[07:11] <blindcoder> moin
[09:17] <netrunner> moin, 2
[09:32] <icelbox> .
[09:33] <blindcoder> moin netrunner, icelbox 
[09:52] <icelbox> I should have installed ccache :(
[09:59] <blindcoder> ccache?
[09:59] <blindcoder> compiler cache?
[10:00] <blindcoder> doesn't help much at building ROCK (unless you do a stage 9 build)
[10:02] <icelbox> hrm, I did a crystal build and now a bootdisk build for the bootable iso
[10:03] <blindcoder> wouldn't help, either
[10:03] <blindcoder> ccache only caches per configuration
[10:03] <blindcoder> it doesn't span multiple configurations
[10:03] <blindcoder> icelbox: did the crystal build fine for you?
[10:03] <icelbox> yes, it worked quite well
[10:04] <blindcoder> which revision?
[10:04] <icelbox> uhm, let me check
[10:05] <blindcoder> because I'm currently building a crystal for Chemnitzer Linux Days and had *count* three problems so far
[10:06] <icelbox> rev 66 from scavenger's repository
[10:06] <blindcoder> ah, okay
[10:07] <icelbox> I hope I get that machine running with encrypted partitions until CLT :>
[10:07] <blindcoder> I'm building cliffords tree for chemnitz
[10:07] <blindcoder> should be fine, I'm using that for quite some time already
[10:07] <blindcoder> you'll be at CLT?
[10:08] <icelbox> yepp
[10:08] <blindcoder> great, I'll reserve a CD for you :)
[10:08] <icelbox> :)
[10:13] <icelbox> lets hope for clean builds and clear skies at night... will be nice to come back to chemnitz again, it's not a bright as munich *g*
[10:14] <blindcoder> you live in munich?
[10:15] <icelbox> yes
[10:16] <blindcoder> heh, I used to live in Ingolstadt (100 km from Munich), now in Berlin
[10:16] <icelbox> oh, nice. I used to live in Hamburg, then 2.5 years Chemnitz and now Munich... I wonder what will be next
[10:17] <blindcoder> nuremburg or italy, judging from your path :)
[10:20] <icelbox> hrm, US would be more probable ;)
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[10:22] <blindcoder> I've vowed never to set foot on US soil
[10:28] <icelbox> I will have to
[10:30] <blindcoder> job offer?
[10:33] <netrunner> icelbox: where in munich?
[10:34] <daja77_> blindcoder: which problems you found?
[10:34] <icelbox> blindcoder: working for a US company
[10:34] <icelbox> netrunner: in the south, Perlach
[10:35] Action: netrunner has no time to fix remaining issues in recent full build, should I commit anyway?
[10:35] <netrunner> otherwise there will be a lot of duplicate work like the curses mouse thing and others.
[10:37] <daja77_> hm svgalib breaks due kernel
[10:37] <blindcoder> daja77_: qt and postgresql
[10:39] <blindcoder> and another one I don't remember now
[10:39] <netrunner> icelbox: I am in perlach at work now :)
[10:40] <icelbox> oh, that's funny :)
[10:40] <netrunner> blindcoder: the qt and prostgresql patch is superfluous as the builds clifford does recalculate the deps
[10:41] <blindcoder> daja77_: and the ifplugd hotfix
[10:41] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes, but for now I need it to build crystal
[10:47] <blindcoder> ARGH
[10:47] <blindcoder> half a day's worth of work in vain >_<
[10:47] Action: daja77_ hopes kdegraphics builds now
[10:48] <blindcoder> I hope this livecd build finishes until wednesday evening
[10:48] <blindcoder> thursday's the last day I can get ROCK CDs written and labeled
[10:49] <daja77_> sm sync restored the old security patches for the packages and thus breaking it >_<
[10:51] <blindcoder> <comment></comment>
[10:51] <netrunner> blindcoder: <comment />
[10:53] <blindcoder> both get parsed by perls XML::Simple
[10:53] <daja77_> you nerd
[10:54] <blindcoder> you geek
[10:54] <daja77_> :P
[10:58] <blindcoder> btw, the ROCK video is done and subtitled in german and english
[10:58] <daja77_> nice
[10:59] <netrunner> blindcoder: url?
[11:00] <blindcoder> https://pallas.crash-override.net/~blindcoder/
[11:00] <blindcoder> the subtitles are mpsub format, play with mplayer
[11:00] Action: netrunner 's chances to go to ltc decreased once again ...
[11:00] <blindcoder> mplayer -sub <file> rock.avi
[11:03] Action: icelbox slaps vlc around with a little whale
[11:04] <daja77_> netrunner: ?
[11:05] <netrunner> "mediaplayer encountered an unknown error" while playing rock.avi
[11:05] <blindcoder> mediaplayer?
[11:06] <daja77_> it played fine here
[11:07] <blindcoder> netrunner: want me to encode to qt :P
[11:13] <netrunner> Nmap 4.00 was released on 31 January
[11:15] <icelbox> 4.00 is old ^^
[11:16] <blindcoder> haven't used nmap in ages
[11:16] <daja77_> for ages
[11:16] Action: daja77_ hides
[11:17] <blindcoder> grammar nazi ;P
[11:17] <blindcoder> anyway, lunchtime
[11:23] <netrunner> Version 1.7 of John was announced on February 9
[11:57] <daja77_>  * netrunner 's chances to go to ltc decreased once again ...
[11:57] <daja77_> why?
[12:01] <netrunner> daja77_: my mother moved location/date for celebrating her 50'th birthday
[12:01] <daja77_> mothers .. *sigh*
[12:03] <netrunner> ltc is quite crowded with rockers anyway ;)
[12:03] <daja77_> lame excuse :p
[12:04] <blindcoder> netrunner: we also thought so last year
[12:04] <daja77_> blindcoder: you formed a one man crowd ;)
[12:04] <blindcoder> :D
[12:15] <netrunner> hm, did I disconnect right now?
[12:17] <blindcoder> no
[12:20] <netrunner> then /upgrade works :)
[12:20] <netrunner> blindcoder: I cannot commit to rock-community using svn protocol?
[12:22] <blindcoder> correct
[12:22] <blindcoder> unless you want to give me your password in plain text
[12:24] <blindcoder> subversion stores the user passwords in plain text only
[12:25] <blindcoder> that's why I use https and authentication via apache
[12:30] <netrunner> blindcoder: sent :)
[12:32] <blindcoder> which key did you encrypt with o_O
[12:32] <blindcoder> gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
[12:33] <blindcoder> gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID 779CD1EE, created 2003-11-05
[12:33] <blindcoder>       "Andreas V. Meier (netrunner) <avmeier@web.de>"
[12:33] Action: blindcoder bitchslaps netrunner 
[12:33] <blindcoder> I don't think I have your secret key :)
[12:33] <blindcoder> finger blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net | gpg --import
[12:37] <netrunner> lol
[12:43] <netrunner> blindcoder: there is no valid key for you ...
[12:44] <netrunner> blindcoder: last expired 2005-11-01
[12:47] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:48] <blindcoder> do the finger as above
[12:48] <blindcoder> that gets you my new key
[12:48] <blindcoder> 12:35 < blindcoder> finger blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net | gpg --import
[12:48] <blindcoder> pub   1024D/8997BE0F 2005-11-02 [expires: 2006-11-02]
[12:53] <netrunner> bash: finger: command not found
[13:03] <blindcoder> hrmpf
[13:03] <blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/gpg.key
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[13:22] <blindcoder> netrunner: got the key?
[13:38] <owl> moin
[14:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: no, I have no finger.
[14:23] <daja77_> no wget too?
[14:23] <blindcoder> 13:06 < blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/gpg.key
[14:24] <blindcoder> and also no gnupg commandline tool? :)
[14:26] <netrunner> blindcoder: gpg --refresh-keys blindcoder gives me only the key that is from last year
[14:27] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:27] <blindcoder> it's definately on subkeys.pgp.net
[14:27] <netrunner> sent.
[14:28] <blindcoder> ok
[14:28] <blindcoder> netrunner: done
[14:29] <netrunner> thx
[14:37] <blindcoder> _another_ new irssi version?
[14:37] <blindcoder> they're really pushing them out now :)
[14:37] <netrunner> something about broken autoconf in the original release
[14:40] <daja77_> well ..
[16:32] <daja77_> 1606 builds total, 629 completed fine, 7 with errors.
[16:37] <netrunner> crystal?
[16:38] <daja77_> yes with addon packages
[16:39] <daja77_> one of them is boost which is not broken ... it is my fault of course, according to their list
[16:42] <netrunner> it also failed here
[16:42] <daja77_> it works with gcc4
[16:42] <daja77_> and breaks with 3.4 but they claim to have tested it ..
[16:44] <netrunner> what is the state of crystal and gcc4?
[16:45] <daja77_> stage 5 works fine
[16:45] <daja77_> stage 9 had errors
[16:45] <daja77_> aboout 70
[17:01] <blindcoder> re
[17:37] <th> ./scripts/Config: line 87: [: =: unary operator expected
[17:37] <th> what's this?
[17:37] <th> if [ $do_config_cycle = 0 ]
[17:38] <daja77_> looks like $do_config_cycle isn't defined
[17:38] <th> it appears even if i put quotes around it
[17:38] <th> pretty sure it is defined
[17:38] <daja77_> hm
[17:38] <th> do_config_cycle=0
[17:38] <th> is one of the first lines
[17:39] <th> there are so much basic things broken in trunk :-/
[17:39] <daja77_> hm trunk + patches works here for me
[17:39] <th> this error is only visible for a fraction of a second
[17:39] <th> it does not seem to do any harm
[17:40] <th> but it's errors which might cause problems somewhen
[17:40] <blindcoder> hmm
[17:40] <th> perhaps it's related to something that has been included
[17:40] <daja77_> yes probably
[17:40] <th> something with the broken cpp-based pkgsel's
[17:41] <th> that might actually be true
[17:41] <th> let's see
[17:41] <blindcoder> th: try 'set -x' and see if it's undefined somewhere
[17:41] <th> yea that's it. it disappears if i remove the config dir.
[17:41] <th> just ignore that for now
[17:45] <th> i think i've a working implementation of pkgsel in bash now (instead of cpp)
[17:45] <th> the former cpp makros (REMOVE, DISABLE_REST) are now bash functions
[17:46] <th> INCLUDE basic.set
[17:46] <th> INCLUDE common.set
[17:46] <th> DISABLE_REST
[17:46] <th> and they all output sed patterns
[17:46] <th> BEGIN and END tags are obsolete now.
[17:46] <th> (makes no sense if you always have to specify them)
[17:47] <blindcoder> include them for backwards compatibility
[17:47] <blindcoder> but output a warning of obsoleteness
[17:48] <th> this does not make much sense to keep backward compatibiltiy
[17:48] <th> cause the syntax changed
[17:48] <blindcoder> okay
[17:49] Action: daja77_ hates c++
[17:50] <blindcoder> who doesn't? :)
[17:50] <daja77_> no comment ..
[17:50] <th> mompl
[17:56] <th> ok this is committed.
[18:01] <th> 2006022717561030272
[18:17] <blindcoder> argh
[18:17] <blindcoder> GL on my laptop is broken >_<
[18:19] <blindcoder> 334 builds total, 248 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[18:19] <blindcoder> only a matter of days now :)
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