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[07:14] <blindcoder> moin
[08:22] <netrunner> moin, 2
[08:22] <th> 3
[08:30] <blindcoder> CLT-Crystal is done 
[08:30] <blindcoder> now I hope that CLT-LiveCD will finish today
[09:01] <daja77_> wah
[09:01] <daja77_> 1606 builds total, 1279 completed fine, 38 with errors.
[09:24] <blindcoder> laway
[09:24] <blindcoder> could be worse :)
[09:25] <daja77_> well 3 games involved ..
[09:30] <icelbox> as long as vegastrike is working ;) moin btw
[09:31] <daja77_> don't have a vegastrike package anyway
[09:31] <daja77_> the installer will do, there hasn't been a release for ages
[09:51] <blindcoder> vegastrike is quite nice
[09:51] <blindcoder> it even supports my spacemouse :)
[09:57] <icelbox> if those capships would be easier too steer... ;)
[10:15] <blindcoder> 25 DVDs, 10 CDs and 15 LiveCDs
[10:15] <blindcoder> icelbox: no idea, I just played Privateer Remake
[10:31] <th> blindcoder: do you have a minute
[10:59] <blindcoder> th: sure
[11:00] <th> when should we load scsi modules for the bootdisk target?
[11:01] <blindcoder> ehm... ASAP?
[11:02] <th> well
[11:02] <th> echo_status "Copy scsi and network kernel modules."
[11:02] <th> for x in ../2nd_stage/lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/{scsi,net}/*.{ko,o} ; do
[11:02] <th> that's in build_stage1
[11:02] <th> that would miss some modules
[11:02] <th> kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/*.ko  for example
[11:02] <th> it would be ok to load these modules in stage2
[11:03] <th> cause we only need cdrom drivers in stage1 if i understand it correctly
[11:03] <th> at the moment i get tons of "module not found" errors when booting the bootdisk
[11:03] <blindcoder> SCSI CD-ROM?
[11:03] <th> in my case the cdrom is not scsi
[11:04] <th> but in my case i have to load the megaraid module manually
[11:04] <blindcoder> in your case :)
[11:04] <th> cause it's not found in stage1 i guess
[11:04] <blindcoder> FSC server?
[11:04] <th> no
[11:04] <th> a standard perc4 scsi
[11:04] <th> dell poweredge
[11:04] <blindcoder> heh, just a guess
[11:04] <th> nothing really hardcore
[11:04] <blindcoder> have a lot to do with LSI MegaRAID these days
[11:04] <blindcoder> as built into FSC stuff
[11:04] <blindcoder> anyway
[11:05] <blindcoder> I'd say we should load them in stage 1
[11:05] <blindcoder> a) to keep the stuff together
[11:05] <blindcoder>    I don't want to have SCSI loading here, here and there
[11:05] <blindcoder> b) to suppeort SCSI CD-ROM drives
[11:05] <th> i think modules which enable scsi-cdroms are matched by scsi/*
[11:06] <th> they should not be in a subdir
[11:06] <th> that might proove wrong somewhen
[11:06] <th> and i agree with your arguments.
[11:06] <daja77_> wtf? why is scorched3d whining about not finding freetype
[11:06] <blindcoder> daja77_: freetype2 maybe?
[11:07] <daja77_> you mean it wants old freetype?
[11:07] <blindcoder> another topic: i can get 50 discs labeled
[11:07] <blindcoder> I suggest: 25 Crystal + Source DVDs, 10 Crystal CDs and 10 LiveCD + Source DVDs
[11:07] <blindcoder> daja77_: maybe
[11:08] <blindcoder> and 5 LiveCD CDs
[11:08] <th> blindcoder: so i will fix the copying in build_stage1 to not miss modules in subdirs
[11:08] <blindcoder> th: thanks
[11:08] <blindcoder> anyone got another suggestion for the disc distribution?
[11:09] <blindcoder> "no" or "sounds good" also welcome...
[11:11] <daja77_> well hard to say, so perhaps we should try it this way
[11:12] <blindcoder> okay
[11:12] <blindcoder> lunchtime
[11:48] <icelbox> yay, exam's over... time to switch computers
[12:08] <th> blindcoder: we will break the 8MB limit for ramdisk then
[12:13] <th> blindcoder: but that's because we want more than just CDROM to be working
[12:13] <th> blindcoder: in fact i dont see a real big problem with extending it's size
[12:17] <th> blindcoder: the full scsi and net directory even includes wlan
[12:37] <owl> moin
[12:48] <netrunner> th: why should ramdisk be bounded to 8MB? any reason?
[12:48] <th> i dunno
[12:49] <blindcoder> no special reason
[12:49] <blindcoder> can be any size
[12:49] <blindcoder> but must be set compiletime
[12:49] <blindcoder> or with ramdisk_size=8192 parameter
[13:46] <th> i've to pass that for a 16M initrd?
[13:49] <th> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE or that i guess
[13:51] <th> target/bootdisk/kernel.conf:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=8192
[13:51] <th> ahh found it
[14:01] <blindcoder> no, you have to specifi 16384 for a 16 MB ramdisk obviously
[14:02] <blindcoder> or 10240 for 10 MB
[14:03] <th> yea sure - i just did not see where the limit to 8M was set.
[14:03] <th> i only saw the dd in in build_stage1
[14:09] <blindcoder> ah
[14:35] <SMP> argh
[14:35] <SMP> just get rid of the freaking ramdisk at all!
[14:36] <daja77_> yes .. thank you
[14:39] <SMP> well, for 2.6 at least use initramfs
[15:23] <blindcoder> SMP: so, what's the practical difference?
[15:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: flexible size, bound to 2.6
[16:06] <SMP> blindcoder: initrd is a dead end, initramfs needs to be supported anyway at some time in the future
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[16:11] <blindcoder> SMP: so it's initrd in a different color, basically?
[16:12] <SMP> blindcoder: yes and no. question too vague.
[16:13] <blindcoder> SMP: the function is the same but the machinsm is different
[16:14] <blindcoder> mechanism
[16:18] <netrunner>  Portable OpenSSH 4.3p2 released February 11, 2006.
[16:18] <netrunner> (security issue)
[16:18] <daja77_> -.-
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[16:22] <SMP> blindcoder: it's a functional superset
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[16:23] <[raphael]> hi *
[16:23] <blindcoder> great...
[16:24] <blindcoder> looks like just another usability nightmare
[16:24] <blindcoder> see also: ucrap
[16:25] <blindcoder> LINUX: Linux Is Not Usable X (it's UNIX if it has the X sound in it)
[16:25] <blindcoder> ARGH
[16:25] <blindcoder> I feel the urge to destroy something coming up again....
[16:25] <blindcoder> better leave now
[16:25] <blindcoder> bl
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[17:07] Action: icelbox slaps cvs.sourceforge.net
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[17:34] <clifford> gcc 4.1.0 is released.
[17:35] <clifford> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/changes.html
[17:36] <daja77_> we are still on 3.4.5 :)
[17:45] <clifford> daja77_: what are the open regressions for switching to 4.x ?
[17:47] <daja77_> only stuff in stage 9
[17:48] <daja77_> can't tell exactly atm because I don't have a gcc4 build atm
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[17:52] <daja77_> well and qemu doesn't build with gcc4
[17:55] <netrunner> daja77_: it also didn't build with 345 in my last build :( 
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[17:55] <daja77_> netrunner: yep because the check in the conf isn't working
[17:55] <daja77_> just comment it
[17:55] <daja77_> have to test that a bit more
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[18:28] <daja77_> wtf?
[18:28] <daja77_> Warning: prerequisite SVN::Core 1.0.7 not found.
[18:28] <daja77_> Warning: prerequisite SVN::Simple::Edit 0 not found.
[18:28] <daja77_> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: 24341 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=perl
[18:43] <mnemoc> o_O
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[22:29] <owl> re
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